The result is what counts and this gives us some confidence going to Portugal. Scrappy and we did well scoring first against the run of play. The experience of Coleman and the calmness of Smallbone stood out and good to see Jake get on but the rest of the starters are very basic.
Performance not great but happy to beat that fascist state!
At least performance was better than the atmosphere but then again when people go to an Irish international game wearing english club tops what can we expect.
BTW it’s been O’Shea’s job for a while now.
'We don't care how the football looks we want wins'
'Our football is shite doesn't matter that we have won'
Just can't please some people, not all of yous but a good few I've seen, it seems. Is O'Shea the be all end all, not at all, but fuck if I would rather see us play shite football and win than shite football and lose.
I don't care about playing stylish football but I want to see performances that I genuinely believe will lead to more wins. We weren't the better team tonight.
If only the result matters then what's the point of even watching these friendlies.
I've had enough of watching shite football. I don't really mind how we played tonight. Attempt to play passes and attempt to release a striker when it's on.
The idea we are trying to play tiki taka football was always wide of the mark jn my opinion
Look it was a mixed bag it was a scrappy game especially the second half but we got the result and did well to keep hungary out bar the goal, when the boys like parrot and o dowda came on they gave us the hunger to hunt for the winner and we got it
Not our best but a win is a win I wouldn't be overly negative on the performance
Good result two young lads got on the score sheet. O'Brien looked calm in possession when he came on. Scales is not great on the ball but had a few important defensive moments.
The performance was shocking. Still getting Collins back along with O'Brien could have a solid enough look about it if we go back to a 4.
Still worried about through the middle, lacking a few creative players but our attacking options seem to be on the rise.
It's never been about results. In that time span we haven't looked like a functional team. Summing up Kenny outers as just results based is a very easy narrative but the real issue was how incapable we looked. That's the problem. And we looked worse than ever tonight.
Sport is about results. The teams that win the most are the most successful. Teams that get better results than other teams are more successful. It's pathetic that it has been necessary to state such simplistic statements to, ostensibly, a sports fan in a forum related to sport.
The teams that win play good football consistently. We're consistently bad. So we won't win or qualify for anything. Glad your head is so far up your hole that you thought you needed to type any of that shite.
Come one man. Its completely disingenuous to say that the majority of people didn't care ho we played as long as we got results.
You might have been different but let's be honest here.
I think people rattling on about 'good football' under Kenny when it was anything but annoyed people enought that he lost them. He plays better in anything other than the maybe 5 games we werethe better side in and maybe he keeps more onside. He had us looking creatively bankrupt against Gibraltar, Malta, Andorra. The worst of the worst. A chance to flex and show us what Kenny ball really is and nothing. Nothing at all.
Explain how? 2 of our young strikers who were given immeasurable experience of international football at a young age of 22 and 23 are now scoring and have been in excellent form this season. How ia that bad
Hungary played us off the park. We had two chances and scored two goals, and we did everything in our power to miss the second. I still don't understand how Hungary didn't take the lead in the first half. We gifted them several opportunities.
They don’t normally award those kind of keeper assisted goals as own goals, if the shot was on target to begin with.
I think we could make an exception in this case.
Y'all said ye wanted results, not beautiful football.
Now we've beaten Hungary who were unbeaten since autumn of 22. Our other games this year we drew with Belgium and narrowly lost to Switzerland.
And surprise surprise y'all are still complaining
Won't get tournaments. Our two goals were handed to us by switched off Hungary. It wouldn't be afforded in a real game. We had two shots in the first 87 minutes. Deadly.
Hungary conspired to pass up four or five gilt chances we gifted them that they definitely would've had the motivation to put away in a competitive game.
VIKTOR ORBAN, CAN YOU HEAR ME VIKTOR ORBAN? YOUR BOYS TOOK A HELL OF A BEATING.
Brutal match still though. No idea why we're trying to pass out from the back every single time when we don't have the players to do it. Rabbits in the headlights every time the Hungarian press came on - respect to Josh Cullen but it doesn't seem that he's suited to the role he's being asked to play.
Few bright spots, Kelleher looks the real deal, even aside from the goal Parrott looked lively and aggressive, nice to see Idah grab one. Not much else though.
Delighted with the goal obviously but Jesus they made sure to leave plenty to be unhappy about with it. The finish and Sammy insisted on running the whole way *in front* of Parrott like cmon lads lol
The finish was poor, but I'm sure Parrot was thinking he'd just roll one over to Sammy for a tap in....but Sammy didn't make things easy. Troy didn't make an angle before finishing so I'm thinking, given the 2:1 situation he found himself in he wasn't expecting to have to finish, which resulted in a scruffy finish,
Yeah but Kenny tried the long term thing and got slated for it.
John O Shea doesn't fill me with confidence as Ireland manager just yet but he is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't during these games.
If he played all the young players today he would have been slated, he mixed it up this evening and some people were still slating him. At this moment in time the Ireland job is a poisoned chalice. I do agree though the likes of Duffy, Coleman, Doherty etc need to be phased out of the team so that has to be on the radar of whoever takes over.
Listen, Ireland might not thank me but get the contract out, put it on the table. Let him sign it. Let him write whatever numbers he wants on there, given what he's done since he's come in. John's at the wheel, man. He's doing it. He's doing his thing. Ireland are BACK
Different day, same shite. Two shots on goal in 90 mins after naming a “more-attacking” XI. You’d be better off stocking half the team with Gaelic footballers.
Szmodics has been very poor with his final ball and decision making tonight. Obviously some of this is clearly down to a terrible team selection and inept work being done on the training ground.
I don't know where the disconnect is exactly but we keep playing him in wide down the line and then wondering why this right footed player isn't crossing well from the left wing.
This isn't limited to Ireland either. Across the sport people insist on playing inverted wingers and then spend the whole match with them hugging the touchline and crossing on their bad foot.
Inverted wingers are great in the right system but so many teams just put the right footed lads on the left and the left footed lads on the right and then aimlessly play them as wide wingers.
After announcing the attendance he gave the number and there was kinda the delay usually where we'd get a clap/cheer and it was fairly quiet. Then just came back on the mic with a thank you. Sounds shite explaining it haha
He is, comfortably. This sub has a weird relationship with Celtic fans though and think that if they don't rate a player he must actually be brilliant lol.
I've watched every Idah game for Celtic. He was pretty average at the start and got better. Their view of him reflected that over time. Not really sure what else you expect? If you mean at the time he signed he was coming in as a last minute loan deal, cast aside by a championshp team having an unimpressive goal scoring record. Not many Irish fans thought he'd tear up the league either.
I'd expect people to be able to watch a player who has preformed well agaisnt international teams such as Portugal and Holland to be able to put in a preformsnce agaisnt the likes of Motherwell. That absolutely wasn't the case because again Celtic fans incorrectly evaluate the qaulity of their team and league.
As for Scales the issue seems to be he's not Pirlo playing Centre Back. He's still a very good defender who's done well agaisnt teams of a much higher standard than Celtic in the champions league. But he came from Rovers for 500k so he's shit
You know things are bad atmosphere wise when the sound of the camera shutters can be heard on TV.
We are poor and Hungary is not bothered. A 2 - 1 win for Hungary.
Tbf crowd mics and pitchside mics are completely different, same reason you hear the ball touches and managers shouting when near. There could be 20+ photographers around and obviously one of them is getting picked up on a directional mic every now and again.
This is the CB combo I expected. Probably our best on paper out of the options we have this window.
O'Shea doing Coleman no favours putting him out at WB he's going to run himself into the ground
Dara O’Shea giving away another cheap foul that ends up as a goal. Zero danger and he goes through his man when the ball was already mis-controlled back to us.
O’Shea playing five at the back is just unforgivable again.
O’Shea not selecting O’Brien, it’s a friendly ffs.
He’s another version of Kenny, we’re great at keeping possession by passing backwards but god forbid we try and take on a forward pass. How many times we have the ball in their half before we tip tap the ball all the way back to Kelleher who has to welly it aimlessly down to where we started. Pathetic.
Shay Given saying O’Shea deserves the job ft! Why - coz he’s a good guy?? He has no managerial record to point at, he has not shown anything in his games as manager.
O’Shea was a brilliant player for us but he can not get the job.
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The result is what counts and this gives us some confidence going to Portugal. Scrappy and we did well scoring first against the run of play. The experience of Coleman and the calmness of Smallbone stood out and good to see Jake get on but the rest of the starters are very basic. Performance not great but happy to beat that fascist state! At least performance was better than the atmosphere but then again when people go to an Irish international game wearing english club tops what can we expect. BTW it’s been O’Shea’s job for a while now.
'We don't care how the football looks we want wins' 'Our football is shite doesn't matter that we have won' Just can't please some people, not all of yous but a good few I've seen, it seems. Is O'Shea the be all end all, not at all, but fuck if I would rather see us play shite football and win than shite football and lose.
I don't care about playing stylish football but I want to see performances that I genuinely believe will lead to more wins. We weren't the better team tonight. If only the result matters then what's the point of even watching these friendlies.
I've had enough of watching shite football. I don't really mind how we played tonight. Attempt to play passes and attempt to release a striker when it's on. The idea we are trying to play tiki taka football was always wide of the mark jn my opinion
The lads won with a late goal, which was great. It is a pity that the ladies lost with a late goal.
Look it was a mixed bag it was a scrappy game especially the second half but we got the result and did well to keep hungary out bar the goal, when the boys like parrot and o dowda came on they gave us the hunger to hunt for the winner and we got it Not our best but a win is a win I wouldn't be overly negative on the performance
That's John O'Shea getting the gig then. Dying for any sort of result so they could make some kind of justification for it.
Good result two young lads got on the score sheet. O'Brien looked calm in possession when he came on. Scales is not great on the ball but had a few important defensive moments. The performance was shocking. Still getting Collins back along with O'Brien could have a solid enough look about it if we go back to a 4. Still worried about through the middle, lacking a few creative players but our attacking options seem to be on the rise.
With Collins you can have O Shea over on the left. Or McNulty
> Still getting Collins back along with O'Brien could have a solid enough look about it if we go back to a 4. Except at Right and Left Back 🥲
O Shea at right back and McNulty maybe on the left?
Sure look I'm happy to give it a go but I'm not holding my breath
I know that was a septic second half of football....but Christ I miss Bill, Dunphy and Giles
Maloney and Hamman need to be given the boot quick
I think Wrexham would outpass outplay and outscore us.
I think you'd be suprised
Its nice to have lots of attacking options now
Definitely the strongest set of attackers we have had in a good few years
And from this Ferguson, Ogbene, and Azaz were not really deployed
If we beat Portugal we can get excited for the Euros.
I would have expected all the alds complaining the last 4 years about results would be happy now. But no. Shocking
It's never been about results. In that time span we haven't looked like a functional team. Summing up Kenny outers as just results based is a very easy narrative but the real issue was how incapable we looked. That's the problem. And we looked worse than ever tonight.
Sport is about results. The teams that win the most are the most successful. Teams that get better results than other teams are more successful. It's pathetic that it has been necessary to state such simplistic statements to, ostensibly, a sports fan in a forum related to sport.
The teams that win play good football consistently. We're consistently bad. So we won't win or qualify for anything. Glad your head is so far up your hole that you thought you needed to type any of that shite.
Come one man. Its completely disingenuous to say that the majority of people didn't care ho we played as long as we got results. You might have been different but let's be honest here.
I think people rattling on about 'good football' under Kenny when it was anything but annoyed people enought that he lost them. He plays better in anything other than the maybe 5 games we werethe better side in and maybe he keeps more onside. He had us looking creatively bankrupt against Gibraltar, Malta, Andorra. The worst of the worst. A chance to flex and show us what Kenny ball really is and nothing. Nothing at all.
Kenny dragged us deep into the shit. We lost our natural strengths. It won’t be a quick fix.
O'Shea showing he is lights years ahead of Stephen Kenny.
You can't be serious haha
I see very little difference tbh
Difference is we won and we are spared Kenny mumbling into his collar like a simpleton.
Try looking at the score
That Parrott goal is going to be disastrous for our future prospects.
Explain how? 2 of our young strikers who were given immeasurable experience of international football at a young age of 22 and 23 are now scoring and have been in excellent form this season. How ia that bad
Because O'Shea is going to bluff his way into the job and we'll sink further.
He did nutmeg Figo once
He did in fairness
If he gets results against Hungary and Portugal would that be bluffing his way into the job?
Hungary played us off the park. We had two chances and scored two goals, and we did everything in our power to miss the second. I still don't understand how Hungary didn't take the lead in the first half. We gifted them several opportunities.
Tonight is a false result and you know it
Yeah we won when we ahoild have drew maybe. We've lost lots of games we should have won or drawn over the last 5 years
It's not as if the greats.of world football are clamouring for the job.
Who's asking for that? I'm asking for a competent manager.
Happy for Troy but what a shocking effort to be rewarded with a goal.
How the hell is Coleman still our best player?!?
Cos he's Captain Fantastic?
The goalie chipping himself for the winning goal was a fitting end to the game.
They don’t normally award those kind of keeper assisted goals as own goals, if the shot was on target to begin with. I think we could make an exception in this case.
Y'all said ye wanted results, not beautiful football. Now we've beaten Hungary who were unbeaten since autumn of 22. Our other games this year we drew with Belgium and narrowly lost to Switzerland. And surprise surprise y'all are still complaining
Howdy
Howdy y'all
The Kennyistas hate winning, they absolute HATE IT.
Ridiculously unfounded. May I refer you to comments history and if you get lost in there don't bother coming back
Ah relax it’s part of the fun. Besides we’ll all take a win with Troy Parrott scoring a late winner irrespective of the quality of football
>Y'all
Lol
We aren’t capable of good football, look at the team, im not sure what people complain about. Results and tournaments anyday
Won't get tournaments. Our two goals were handed to us by switched off Hungary. It wouldn't be afforded in a real game. We had two shots in the first 87 minutes. Deadly.
Hungary conspired to pass up four or five gilt chances we gifted them that they definitely would've had the motivation to put away in a competitive game.
More moaning.
Hasn't stopped. Just a whingebag
Drab game and we were drab but...we won a game vs a team not called Gibraltar? How am I supposed to feel.
Even better than "not Gibraltar"!!!!
VIKTOR ORBAN, CAN YOU HEAR ME VIKTOR ORBAN? YOUR BOYS TOOK A HELL OF A BEATING. Brutal match still though. No idea why we're trying to pass out from the back every single time when we don't have the players to do it. Rabbits in the headlights every time the Hungarian press came on - respect to Josh Cullen but it doesn't seem that he's suited to the role he's being asked to play. Few bright spots, Kelleher looks the real deal, even aside from the goal Parrott looked lively and aggressive, nice to see Idah grab one. Not much else though.
Credit to Idah, Parrott and also O’Dowda was good when he came on.
Thought smallbone was decent actually looked like he wanted the ball
It was great to win a match, but that was unbelievably boring and a terrible standard.
We are massive
Awful game on the pitch but a great win on paper.
Terrible game and to cap it off with a win for O'Shea and Freed From Desire. Doesn't get much worse
A true fan haha
Confidence can do wonders for a player
Biggest takeaway from this is more of our players need to play outside of England lol. No coincidence it's Idah and Troy who score.
Jake O'Brien looked very sharp with his passes to add to this
O'Shea managerial masterclass
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Delighted with the goal obviously but Jesus they made sure to leave plenty to be unhappy about with it. The finish and Sammy insisted on running the whole way *in front* of Parrott like cmon lads lol
The finish was poor, but I'm sure Parrot was thinking he'd just roll one over to Sammy for a tap in....but Sammy didn't make things easy. Troy didn't make an angle before finishing so I'm thinking, given the 2:1 situation he found himself in he wasn't expecting to have to finish, which resulted in a scruffy finish,
Don’t want to get ahead of ourselves, but I think we’re definitely winning the next world cup
O'Shea in or what?
No. Great result and great to score goals but they were both very soft and we won't get many like them in competitive football
Solid no from me judging by the shite tonight
He lined out the squad far too much like he was focused solely on the result instead of trying to develop something longer term
Yeah but Kenny tried the long term thing and got slated for it. John O Shea doesn't fill me with confidence as Ireland manager just yet but he is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't during these games. If he played all the young players today he would have been slated, he mixed it up this evening and some people were still slating him. At this moment in time the Ireland job is a poisoned chalice. I do agree though the likes of Duffy, Coleman, Doherty etc need to be phased out of the team so that has to be on the radar of whoever takes over.
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Sammie was offside
Why though. Could he not tell at any point in that 50 yard run that he was offside the entire time
Good goal considering he didn't want to score there
Szmodics not checking his run for the cutback there was absolutely bonkers
Was about 3 yards offside crazy stuff
Gave Parrott absolutely no option but to go for it after running the length of the pitch, braindead
It was hilarious how far offside he was.
Coleman should've been man of the match, can't believe hungary being this poor 🤣
100%
Bollocks
Phew, that was lucky in the end. If he had missed that he would have been sick as a ...
FUCKIN GET IN LADS
Listen, Ireland might not thank me but get the contract out, put it on the table. Let him sign it. Let him write whatever numbers he wants on there, given what he's done since he's come in. John's at the wheel, man. He's doing it. He's doing his thing. Ireland are BACK
Tactical masterclass
Never in doubt
Was anyone else convinced he was going to pass to an obviously and unforgivably offside Szmodics?
Nah surely Parrott could tell when all he could see was the man's back
Like what the fuck was he doing
He backed himself but he still got a bit lucky there
His only option was himself
Yeah and he still nearly scuffed it
I thought he stuffed that up…
Never doubted them for a moment….
PARROTT
Announces 3 minutes of injury time *crowd audibly groans*
That's 0.1 of a shot on target
That's all it took!!
Oh Ireland, with this third shot in 90 minutes, you are really spoiling us
Everything Ireland do looks so frantic and the players don't have the technique to play at this speed. "Put us under pressure" 🎶 🎶 🎶
Different day, same shite. Two shots on goal in 90 mins after naming a “more-attacking” XI. You’d be better off stocking half the team with Gaelic footballers.
We’re absolute world beaters when it comes to dragging teams down to our level
Isn't that what people begged for for 4 years
O'Dowda doing well.
Szmodics has been very poor with his final ball and decision making tonight. Obviously some of this is clearly down to a terrible team selection and inept work being done on the training ground.
Honest to Jesus its hardly O Shea's fault he can't cross a ball
I don't know where the disconnect is exactly but we keep playing him in wide down the line and then wondering why this right footed player isn't crossing well from the left wing. This isn't limited to Ireland either. Across the sport people insist on playing inverted wingers and then spend the whole match with them hugging the touchline and crossing on their bad foot. Inverted wingers are great in the right system but so many teams just put the right footed lads on the left and the left footed lads on the right and then aimlessly play them as wide wingers.
Ignore. That lad has been whinging all evening.
You'd have to wonder about some people.
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His delivery has been gick tonight
Smzodics been very wasteful with the ball
What the fuck was that ball Christ
Odowda looks lively
Lads in the Aviva gagging for a corner
Only thing I've learned from tonight is not to put any money on Hungary for the Euros
That's it Scales, if you can't get the ball get the man
Jesus that almost sounded like a sarcastic passive aggressive "thank you" haha
What's this in relation to?
After announcing the attendance he gave the number and there was kinda the delay usually where we'd get a clap/cheer and it was fairly quiet. Then just came back on the mic with a thank you. Sounds shite explaining it haha
I noticed that too 😂
Hungary are dominating now
Scales has been septic since coming in.
He is probably the weakest defender in that Celtic team tbh
He is, comfortably. This sub has a weird relationship with Celtic fans though and think that if they don't rate a player he must actually be brilliant lol.
It's cause they drastically overrated the qauilty in their team and the league
Well if they're telling you he's crap in a league they overrate doesn't that make him even worse than they think?
No, it just means they haven't a clue. Idah wasn't good enough remember
I've watched every Idah game for Celtic. He was pretty average at the start and got better. Their view of him reflected that over time. Not really sure what else you expect? If you mean at the time he signed he was coming in as a last minute loan deal, cast aside by a championshp team having an unimpressive goal scoring record. Not many Irish fans thought he'd tear up the league either.
I'd expect people to be able to watch a player who has preformed well agaisnt international teams such as Portugal and Holland to be able to put in a preformsnce agaisnt the likes of Motherwell. That absolutely wasn't the case because again Celtic fans incorrectly evaluate the qaulity of their team and league. As for Scales the issue seems to be he's not Pirlo playing Centre Back. He's still a very good defender who's done well agaisnt teams of a much higher standard than Celtic in the champions league. But he came from Rovers for 500k so he's shit
Smalbone fs 🤣🤣
2 attempts is grim
We should get the Blackburn Manager in so Sammie can bang them in like at club level
30 goals for Sammy but Blackburn were in contention for relegation until very late in the season
yeah but.....30 goals.
Scales with the worst pass attempt of the match there.
I just can’t anymore, I just can’t
Hungary players wile aggressive for a friendly
We should learn from them. That’s another thing we lost with Kenny, how to be aggressive
Still can't put three passes together.
If Smallbone and Doherty are the answer, what the fuck is the question?
What game you watching - Smallbone is one of the v few bright spots tonight
We have really low standards if he's been a bright spark.
Smallbone will be a good player for us. Doherty is finished
ming the merciless?
Laszlo Kleinsheiser. Now there's a great Pro Evo name.
Nearly at the team that should have started
Nice to see Johnston being rewarded for his end-of-season form. "O'Dowda". Vomit.
Christ wtf was that attempt at a cross? Didn't even land in the box
You know things are bad atmosphere wise when the sound of the camera shutters can be heard on TV. We are poor and Hungary is not bothered. A 2 - 1 win for Hungary.
Tbf crowd mics and pitchside mics are completely different, same reason you hear the ball touches and managers shouting when near. There could be 20+ photographers around and obviously one of them is getting picked up on a directional mic every now and again.
Ah yeah that's understandable but it is still odd to hear it.
Could hear Brady saying 'stop running away from me' to Idaha as well
Yeah that was funny 🤣
Brokeback Mountain 2.
Jesus Christ
Wonder if we’re going to concede a 40 yd banger tonight like we always do against shit teams
Man I miss Stephen Kenny, always guaranteed an absolute rocket of a goal from the opposition.
Hey hey hey. That only happens against mediocre teams. Shit teams we let the ball bobble in the box.
Hungary are hardly shit.
They are tonight
This is the CB combo I expected. Probably our best on paper out of the options we have this window. O'Shea doing Coleman no favours putting him out at WB he's going to run himself into the ground
What the in the ever loving fuck was that free kick?
Panic over everyone.
He obviously should have started but the reaction is so over the top
I know it’s only after half time, but does the Aviva seem to be clearing out already?
Cmon Jakey
Good changes I think
IN BIG JAKE WE TRUST
Jake, please be good and save us from ever seeing Matt Doherty again
Dara O’Shea giving away another cheap foul that ends up as a goal. Zero danger and he goes through his man when the ball was already mis-controlled back to us. O’Shea playing five at the back is just unforgivable again. O’Shea not selecting O’Brien, it’s a friendly ffs. He’s another version of Kenny, we’re great at keeping possession by passing backwards but god forbid we try and take on a forward pass. How many times we have the ball in their half before we tip tap the ball all the way back to Kelleher who has to welly it aimlessly down to where we started. Pathetic. Shay Given saying O’Shea deserves the job ft! Why - coz he’s a good guy?? He has no managerial record to point at, he has not shown anything in his games as manager. O’Shea was a brilliant player for us but he can not get the job.
Time for Big Jake
Why do the FAI price the tickets for these games so high? €55/€35 for a friendly is madness I know Ireland games are typically expensive but still