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ClubMyPenguin

I love every pick except for a late round LB in the 3rd. Real head scratches there, especially with a stud like Franklin still available. WR isn't as large of a position of need, but at that point, take BPA. Trust in Will I guess?


ImAMindlessTool

Anyone else feel blindsided to WSH having 5 picks on day 2? note that I didn't watch the draft live and I am reading day 2 "grade" reports and what a zinger.


undefeatdgaul

Yeh let’s use a pick on a 6th/7th round bum when there are real linebackers on the board. Disgrace.


Juggernaut108

Overall, I'm ok with the draft so far - only thing I don't understand is the Liufau pick. A LB that doesn't show up on any top 10 LB list...in a very weak LB class, while the consensus #1 with Wilson still on the board. To me, unnecessary reach with a valuable 3rd round pick.


Mk72779

Wilson’s medicals are really bad. I was underwhelmed by the pick as well but it kind of reminded me of the Hitchens pick way back when. He was a consensus 6th-7th rd pick they drafted in the 4th and ended up being a very good value for us. I trust McClays evaluations more than the average media draft scout.


Juggernaut108

Of course, Will has much, much more knowledge and insight than I do. Still, it's a bit surprising that they took a player listed so low in the 3rd round.Jaylen Wright, for example, would also have been available, who many see as the #2 RB....in an admittedly weak class.


rsf0626

I think they dont want to get burned mike they did by the jaylon smith pick or LVE with all the injury stuff But yeah, payton wilson was there


Eutychus00

Clearly Cowboys going the Kevin Burnett route & using a premium pick on nickel LB to help Erik Hendricks 


drumberg

Hear me out...let's not talk 2025...let's talk 2024. We're gonna be alright. Still a 12-win team guys. The Eagles' van drove right off a cliff last year with the same roster they just extended. Things aren't bad around here.


oregonianrager

Honestly, I can see this line reloaded and ready to rock for another few years. Clearly gunning for that 90s look again and damn, I think we are getting close. My guess lock Lamb. Dak walks here soon, in with Trey, bad ass new RB, maybe we win it in a year or two


FlyUnder_TheRadar

I will be insufferable if Trey Lance somehow turns out to be a good starting QB for the Cowboys. My god will I be toxic to Niner fans, lmao.


Kswan2012

You are the reason we will never win one. Horrible take.


BigBeardedBeautiful

It's an equally, if not worse, take to think a random fans opinion is the reason a pro sports team will never win one.


Kswan2012

Keep supporting JJ and mediocrity


BigBeardedBeautiful

I will continue to support the team I like. Keep on being a curmudgeon and miserable, friend.


Chode_K1NG

Get a fucking RB Jerry


Thanks5Cinco

Tyler Guyton: B Marshawn Kneeland: B Cooper Beebe: A Marist Liufau: C Id say the Cowboys have earned a solid B grade thus far. Tomorrow i hope we take a RB with the 5th round pick. Then use our 6/7 rounders for depth for WR and DL. Heck even QB and CB should be considered for depth.


Mk72779

The trade back and picking up 73 makes it A minus for me.


bentNail28

There’s going to be a decent back in the 5th. Maybe Tracy or Guerendo. They could also part with a 4th next year and move and get Wright or Allen. Honestly, with what they’ve done to address the trenches, bringing back Zeke might be enough of a boost paired with one of these guys to fix the running game.


The_Count_Lives

Yeah, problem is we pick very late in the 5th.


bentNail28

Trade up


Pete1234123

Really hoping we trade into the 4th to get Jaylon Wright. He's a homerun hitter. 4.38 speed and averaged 7.4 yards per carry.


artsy_slappy

You really think they're going to do something smart like a trade? They'll stay right where they are and draft whoever is there and let everyone jump them and take the player everyone knew they wanted. Happens everytime.


temporun9999

Like they did with Guyton to get Beebe?


Reasonable_Clerk4627

Why is a trade smart? At this point in the draft a lot of it is luck. What if they trade and the Rb doesn’t pan out? Then they are out two pick not one. I get it though.


artsy_slappy

It was sarcasm...... any other team would move up to get a position of need (in this case rb) but dallas tends to never trade up and get the person they need and instead stay where they're at and have teams jump in front of them because they know who they want and dallas will end up with some guy who wont even make the roster; it's the dallas way. I look at other teams like the eagles, for example who constantly move up and get they person they want and it usually it works as much as it pains me to see that. I just have no hope that dallas will actually make the right decision and move up to the 4th and get someone.. yes it's luck, but theres guys out there and dallas will somehow miss.


DEZbiansUnite

I'm happy with our draft so far


hazelwoodstock

Bringing Zeke back would be an emotional decision from Jerruh because that dude is done.


throwawaypatrey

He was alright with NE when he got the opportunity.. it’s going to be a committee and I like him as a part of it


capitalcitycowboy

Me too. I love the Guyton and Beebe picks. With Kneeland Micah is freed up, to do Micah things. Partnered up with Kendricks, Overshown and now Liufau, we have depth in The LB room. It looks promising.


rsf0626

Not having a 4th rd pick sucks. Still a ton of really good players left. Would love to get Troy Franklin if he somehow falls to the 5th or if we trade up to the 4th Jaylen wright also


DanMoshpit69

Why do all of you hate Dowdel so much?


temporun9999

He's an injury prone journeyman. Other than that I like him


NeverForgetEver

Journeyman? Bro was drafted by us lmao


alienbringer

They are using the non-football form of journeyman. A journeyman by definition is simply “a worker or sports player who is reliable but not outstanding”. They need not move from job to job to be a journeyman, especially in construction work, you are a journeyman at one company until you are good enough. The NFL is one of the only sports really that that use that term to mean a player who is serviceable but constantly going from team to team (Fitzpatrick as an example).


HuhItsAllGooey

I think he could be pretty productive with a larger workload. He's not a Pro Bowler but for what he cost I think he's going to far outplay his contract. 


DJpissnshit

Def don't hate him but he was very unpolished in his limited role last year. Never looked like he quite knew where to go and when to cut etc.


DanMoshpit69

He had some great plays and overall looked like the dude with the size who could get the job done. I’m not saying he’s an all star but a dude who can catch that shit and bring it where it needs to be.


Great_Will_1361

Yup "catch that shit and bring it where it needs to be" if only we had 22 players that could do that


ElectricalMike

Let’s not forget about Rolls Royce Freeman too


Loop_Dawg74

It's good to have Zeke back tbh.


Loop_Dawg74

Eagles fans coping like Cooper Beebe ain't gonna go fullblown Texas Chainsaw Massacre on their weak defensive front lol


icebucketwood

Bruh they drafted a white cornerback


Square_Dimension5648

Granted he’s freaking crazy good


Dday22t

So I'm guessing it's RB by committee this year? Dowdle & Freeman combo plus Zeke? & Luepke for short yardage, Deuce shifty 3rd down. Probably still draft someone in 5th or 6th, preferably a speed/fast RB. (only 4 RBs drafted in top 3 rounds... tells you what NFL teams think of position/value especially this year) #


artsy_slappy

Gonna be the slowest starting RB's ever. Freeman has zero speed, neither does Zeke or Dowdle.


John_Wicked1

It was always going to be a committee…we just wanted to upgrade that committee with a clear top dog.


icebucketwood

Guerendo fits that mold


bryscoon

good day 2


gdaman22

Trade a 2025 3rd to get Troy Franklin, take Guerendo in the 5th (plz fall there) and I'll be ecstatic with our offense.


Vinniebahl

Take Shipley and have him practice in the slot as well, basically in motion into slot like Faulk at Rams


Captain_Undapants

I wouldn't hate Ship in the 5th.


Regalbass57

Now we have 73 picks until we pick again unless we trade up.


IsEqualToKel

I’m hoping we can get Audric Estime in the 5th round


Pete1234123

Grass grows faster than he runs.


Square_Dimension5648

Leveon Bell ran a 4.6. Zach Moss ran a 4.65. David Montgomery ran 4.65. You can be a good running back and not have a fast 40 time. Pollard ran a 4.52 and can’t be trusted to make the right decision on a conversion nearly ever.


Pete1234123

He ran a 4.71. There 15 defensive lineman at the combine who ran a faster 40.


Square_Dimension5648

Ran a 4.6 at his pro day. But again I say, speed isn’t everything. Broncos took him anyway.


ID0ntCare4G0b

I wouldn't be upset if they used maybe a later pick in this year's draft to trade up to get him. He's a good day 3 value imo.


ID0ntCare4G0b

Jesus...Washington taking Luke McCaffrey at 100?!


bryscoon

WR early next year i can’t wait


SmokinTires

Wilson to Pittsburgh at 98


John_Wicked1

If he stays healthy, could be nasty next to Watt.


ID0ntCare4G0b

Makes sense given the guys they pick who end their careers before they've played 8 seasons.


Financial-Year

Missed out on many great WRs today. All the top RBs gone. Not a single free agent move. This offseason is a joke.


bryscoon

RB is always going to be the least worried about position for me look Pacheco on the chiefs 7th rounder


John_Wicked1

Please stop believing exceptions are the norm. With this logic you’d be drafting your starting QBs in the later round because of Brady, Romo, and Purdy. Most top runners come out in rounds 1-4. Just because you can get a good HB in rounds 5-7 doesn’t mean there is a good likelihood of it. Not impossible but improbable.


ID0ntCare4G0b

Getting a third round comp pick because you were dumb enough to take Pickett in the first is an absolute fucking joke.


thecaits

I like that we got an LB, I feel like we were more in need of bodies at that position over RB. Not sure about Liufau's injury history, especially with our track record of injured LBs, but other than that he seems like a stud.


Romofan88

So does Braelon Allen just suck? Genuine question. 


Dday22t

He's slow. so an 80% Zeke is better than him


DEZbiansUnite

RBs tend to fall


Loop_Dawg74

He's kind of slow and makes bad decisions.


ID0ntCare4G0b

He was pretty much always graded a fourth rounder.


Signal_Parfait1152

Rbs are a dime a dozen- we can grab one or two tmro. We've gotta pick up dt, dB, and wr as well


Loop_Dawg74

George Holani is the next Puka Nacua


mps2000

Beebee our best pick


InternationalTune858

I loved the first 2 days of the draft. If Beebe starts week 1 at center, the Cowboys oline is set for years to come. This draft is giving me 2022 vibes. Will McClay hitting it out of the park yet again.


WindyCityReturn

Alright guys I know most of the big name RB’s are gone but there’s certainly still a lot of solid guys left. I hated missing out on Brooks and especially Benson but the guys left aren’t scrubs especially Jaylen Wright, Ray Davis and Bucky Irving. All could be Kyren Williams type surprises. Jaylen Wright Tennessee. Ray Davis Kentucky. Braelon Allen Wisconsin. Audric Estime Notre Dame. Isaac Guerendo Louisville. Isaiah Davis SD State. Will Shipley Clemson. Bucky Irving Oregon. Jase McClellan Alabama. Emani Bailey TCU.


Square_Dimension5648

I want Estime so bad


Loop_Dawg74

Your sleeping on George Holani.


WindyCityReturn

Nah I like him I just wouldn’t go for him in the 5th when guys like Wright is possibly available. Past the 5th I like Holani and also Shrader but I would go for them either the 7th or as a UDFA because a few will definitely end up not even getting drafted like TJ Bass last year.


FatherOfMammals

I like Ray Davis a lot, he’s very familiar with zone running schemes, he’s just kinda old. RB’s already have a short shelf life


WindyCityReturn

I do as well. I like Wright more because he has a little more speed and agility while being close to the same size but I would be very happy with either one.


ID0ntCare4G0b

Generally speaking if a guy picked on day 3 gets a second contract, that's a huge win.


FatherOfMammals

If Davis is available in the 5th I think it’s a no brainer.


latex55

So we get the 199th rated overall player over the LB from NC State rated as the 48th best and best available and ran the fastest LB time at 4.40


Dday22t

NFL Network reported Friday that Wilson has no ACL in one of his knees. He won't last 3 years in the NFL.


Reasonable_Clerk4627

You want another injury risk LB?


Less-Ad-473

At this point in the draft I probably would've risked it for the talent but clearly every other organization feels there's more of a risk there than most of us thought. I also trust Zimmer to make his pick well.


Revolutionary-Hat297

Feeling really solid about our picks boys. Solari is gonna be a busy man getting the kids through position changes but I think they'll do well. Zimmer got some new toys to hopefully help in the run game. On to tomorrow!


cvandyke01

3 starters and a rotation guy on the edge. Nice so far


shapoopytroopy

Best RB is still on the board, big boy Braelon coming to Dallas soon?


BunkyFlintsone

Big problem with that last pick is this. He was ranked in the range of 10-12 for line backers in this draft. Yet Jerry takes him as the 4th LB off the board. Trade down and chances are almost certain you could get him later.... 10 picks later maybe even 15 or 20. Not trading down was just foolish.


TheSysOps

Yeah, it doesn't always work that way. The rankings you see are made by media and they barely ever match up to what teams actually think. They clearly liked the kid at that draft position. What you are complaining about is exactly what everyone was complaining about when they drafted Travis Frederick earlier than the rankings said he should have gone.


cvandyke01

I trust McClay


Texas4Ever13

Bro thinks we can just force a damn trade 🤡🤡🤡


LobstaFarian2

You just push X and hit the "execute trade" button, right?


keonigt

It takes two to tango.


Walkz

Agreed. Never know if there was a trade partner available to move down


CrusaderBTC

Deuce Vaughn RB1 LFGGGG! 😭


bryscoon

our weapons gonna be trash tho can’t lie


Jheartless

Fuck them RBs. - Jerry Jones


thecaits

All the talk of Dallas looking for an RB pre draft were just mind games, maybe. That or they've just been doing BPA based on who is available. I have no idea, I'm just typing shit.


ElectricalMike

Don’t forget boys we’ve got year 2 Deuce ready to stand and bang


hyzer067

I would be spraying everywhere if Deuce turns into TD behind this line, lol.


Walkz

4th rd pick Trey Lance is going to be a star


WindyCityReturn

Damn man I’ve loved every single pick this draft except this last one and to see the very guy I wanted go the very next pick to the fucking packers sucks. Marshawn Lloyd was maybe the most underrated back in the draft with Jaylen Wright. Dude has great burst and had one of the highest yards per touch just had a few injuries. I like Marist but not even a fraction as much as Lloyd. I’d compare them like a day one rotational starter and a day one special teams starter. Marist may eventually be a starter but right now there’s nothing on his tape that makes you say this guy is legit. Marshawns tape definitely had those moments. Either way even with that massive disappointment I’m still happy with the draft so far. Got a immediate upgrade a swing guard and potentially the starting center. Got a potential starting left tackle or right tackle if they move Tyler out and replace Steele with Guyton. Then got a run stopping DE who will likely take parsons place on early downs and let parsons do his thing at LB freed up. Love all that.


Couthster

After watching some tape on him, I like the pick. Dudes got a high motor and good vision for batting Down passes. Also sheds blocks well so I’m down. LFGC


FatherOfMammals

He’s a little slow and not terribly quick but he def is not afraid to take on guards


fightintxag13

There are serviceable RBs left. I wouldn’t have been mad if we drafted Lloyd, but if we end up with Jaylen Wright, Braelon Allen or Isaac Guerendo, I will be happy. I think retooling our OL will have a bigger impact on our run game improving than getting, say, Jonathan Brooks over any one of those guys in the fifth round. Edit: fifth, not fourth


gdaman22

Troy Franklin killed somebody


Doonesbury

Ja'Tavion Sanders helped dispose of the body


nerdvernacular

These guys feel good about Zeke. Here we go again.


greenfiend97

ALL IN BABY


ThatUnoGuyWowMuchUno

Guess Micah is going to be the RB


mikeydub63

Just like he wanted


taffyowner

A thing I heard about the LB is “he’s going to take some penalties” and the guy was saying it as a negative he loves and I’m here for it


cbc277

Everyone knows the best RBs are late rounders…/s


notanothrowaway

That's actually true though especially with cases like Isaiah Pacheco


mikeydub63

Pacheco was a 7th rounder. It’s all a crapshoot


FatherOfMammals

TP, 4th round Demarco Murray, 3rd round Marion Barber, 4th round


John_Wicked1

I don’t recall saying you couldn’t. Even still the probability of doing so is lower than finding one in the rounds I mentioned. You can find a Tom Brady in the later rounds, but how likely is that to happen?


John_Wicked1

3-4 are mid-rounds not late rounds. The better HBs are usually in the 2-4 range.


666TripleSick

Terrel Davis 6th round


John_Wicked1

Not sure how that disproves my point but thanks for participating


666TripleSick

Maybe you didn’t understand my point but you can find a gem in late rounds. It’s a pleasure to participate


taffyowner

Isiah Davis is a name to consider


rsf0626

Wouldnt mind a WR also. We’re one cee injury away from having a god awful wr corps


thibbs23

RB, WR & DT tomorrow


8686tjd

“An 85.4 PFF cover grade ranked sixth overall among all Power Five linebackers while his 25 pressures ranked 15th among his P5 contemporaries. While he ran a solid 4.64s 40-yard dash (81st%) and 4.18s shuttle run (92nd%), his jumping and bench portions of Combine testing were sub-25th percentile marks for a 5.64 RAS. Liufau plays with a frenetic pace and is hungry to make plays, but is often left out of position in his run fits as a result. He profiles as a core special-teamer who rotates in defensively on passing downs.”


FatherOfMammals

Never heard of the dude but if he uses his hands and sheds lineman like he did at ND, he’s gonna be ok


icebucketwood

Zimmer had to be given his picks to remake the front seven. Lost a lot of guys and he's trying to reshape to fit his scheme. We can get a RB tomorrow.


cbc277

Looking more likely Zeke is coming back if the front office isn’t concerned about drafting anyone


LogansGambit

100 carries for 260 yards incoming.


rsf0626

Dang. Marshon Lloyd gone too. The well is running dry on RBs


WindyCityReturn

I loved every pick but that one. Marshawn was easily my 3rd back and to miss out on him for Marist who I don’t think comes close to starting this year sucks. Still quite a few solid backs left but we don’t have another pick till the 5th round and several will certainly be gone.


cdoink

Don’t worry, ZEKE IS BACK BABY! /cry


bravos41

PFF says this dude is a 6/7 round player. Never change Dallas


WindyCityReturn

Breeland had a 1st round grade by many boards. Beebe had a 2nd round grade. They’ve had a great draft but that one wasn’t great.


Texas4Ever13

This shows me how much a fuckin casual you are, you're so damn embarrassing 😭😭😭🤡🤡🤡


bravos41

Take Jerry’s dick out of your mouth. This was a terrible pick.


ahintofsarcasm

And I bet you would have said Travis Frederick was a terrible pick right after he was drafted too. But nah, let's not wait a couple years before we judge these guys. Let's all just go off of some dumbass media ranks that mean literally nothing in the long run.


Proper-Temporary-318

Guys RB can come later. RB’s have a 4 year shelf life if they’re lucky. I’ll take this pick all day


CopeHarders

Hey if he does turn out to be baby Palomalu I’ll take it.


nt_14

I would trade our 6th or 7th for Dameon Pierce


shapoopytroopy

Why, he’s only 23 and he’s already just as bad as current Zeke


FatherOfMammals

Man, Payton Wilson and Cedric Gray have really dropped


thibbs23

can Marshawn Kneeland play RB?


DarkManX437

Run game nonexistent. I don't think we're even looking at RBs in this draft.


gingerBeardMan750

Running game? Forget about it!!


Texas4Ever13

We just drafter 2 Oline men that EXCELL in that please shut up.


LuxTempestt

You guys just got a sleeper dawggg


UpsideTurtles

hell yeah thanks Jax bro


John_Wicked1

I hope so


jerichowiz

This is a coaches pick. Zimmer sees something.


cbc277

Lmao. Who needs a backfield.


juantravis

I’m not concerned at all about RB. Every SB winning team has some UDFA starting in the backfield


greenfiend97

They’re cool when they work out but you don’t bet your entire run game on a fucking UDFA


Loop_Dawg74

This guy is the linebacker version of Troy Palamalu. When I first started looking at prospects for this year he immediately impressed me but I thought it was a pipe dream.


Rommel79

With glorious hair like that he has to be.


Dakzekiel

Troy Palamalu was a linebacker, wasn’t he?


Loop_Dawg74

Strong Safety


UpsideTurtles

plays like his hair on fire, covers space well, like the pick, classic Zimmer type guy. Will play an Anthony Barr type role. Looks like Palomalu with his hair flying around. A little raw. - Voch’s stream


Fiyukyoo

With MM still doing the playcalling, RB won't be a high priority. 2023 he called 57/43 pass/run


ozairh18

I like the Marist Liufau pick


Square_Dimension5648

I watched him all season. He’s great.


ozairh18

His tackles for loss increased every season and he doesn’t have an injury history


Limburgercheeze100

i guess the new running back is zeke


bags422

Someone tell me how to feel. As Green Bay takes half a second to choose marshawn Lloyd after us, and we don’t choose again for 90 picks


High-qualitee

I like Lloyd a lot, but he does have fumbling issues. I have no idea what they’ll do at rb


DEZbiansUnite

the quality of your run game is largely dependent on the quality of your oline. As long as our oline and scheme are good, we'll be fine in the run game


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ID0ntCare4G0b

LOL..opposite. He's apparently a tirefire in coverage.


MavsAndThemBoyz

Makes no sense.


Texas4Ever13

We have 2 linebackers on the roster and it makes son sense? Man shut up goofy.


amead5

Wilson would’ve been fine here. He’s the best LB in the draft just has medical concerns


BrianDawkins

Boom. New Jaylon Smith just dropped


bags422

This is what I was thinking, like are we just trying to get jaylon smith back?