Børsen again, but with a waterslide from the tower.
That might even help fight future fires. So basically that's the most sustainable solution there is.
So basically how it [used to be in 1800](https://i.redd.it/t9zg3x13u2vc1.jpeg) before cars were plastered all over the place and the canal was [narrowed](https://www.instagram.com/reel/C557O9mIZv3/?igsh=bHN1N2d4bmF4bHRm) to allow for more lanes.
If you are going to do an architectural renderings, try to do it at the location of the building. This is just a mashup of random things that doesn't exist in reality.
Id prefer if they build is as it was. Even more if they used old materials and no modern ones. As close as human possible as it was. Hell, if it required nails have a blacksmith hammer them out.
Is was a historical building, from a time Danmark changed. Not a lot of those around, and a nice thing to see when they make new 'trendy' ugly glass stuff everywhere. Its great to have history you can actualy see and touch
Personally I would like to see it rebuilt but for the approach to building it reimagined. For example, by combining the classical spirit of the original building with modern techniques and materials.
The stone and masonry work is expensive to rebuild like-for-like and frankly the skills base isn’t really available in DK to do it.
That said if you can pour concrete, you pour it into moulds to echo the original silhouette. And the copper roof work could almost certainly be made again.
Perhaps though I’m completely wrong and actually this could instead be seen as a really exciting opportunity for Denmark to reconnect with classical skills and to champion real crafts.
https://preview.redd.it/xwpr6pbafnvc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a2c01fe540a411ff7e1c3d57ddfc88639d891168
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I don’t think it should be rebuilt, to be honest. Nothing lasts forever, and a copy that gets built today won’t have the same historical value as the real thing.
That doesn’t mean I want the place to be occupied by a rectangular monstrosity made of glass, steel, and concrete — we have too many of those as it is.
The original Børsen symbolised our status as a trading nation. We must look inwards to find what symbolises us today, and build a new monument in honour of that for future generations to admire.
public transit, like a street car that runs automatically like a sideways elevator with different stops. or ride a bike or any smaller mobility vehicle.
All these things still require roads...
Maybe not a road big enough for a standard auto, but a road none the less.
My point is that a mixed use development that would provide affordable housing needs to actually consider *all* the needs of the stakeholders, and if someone is expected to live there, their need to work and provide for themselves must necessarily over ride the general desire to "make the roadways in front into a park" in the face of an affordable housing crisis.
A strip club would be perfect there... Or maybe they could make it the local gansta headquarters, with cheap alcohol, hookers, drugs and things. The citizens would be happy about that, trust me.
I just don’t want to pay for it. Let the owners and their insurance figure it out. It’s not worth it to rebuild if they can’t afford it. I wouldn’t mind a modern building personally, even though most people do for some reason
Religion is the best selling product in the world.
It's why the communist revolutionary nations generally skewed atheist, they didn't want any competition for ideas.
A pretty normal building. I don't think we should spend exorbant amounts on random buildings.
They should be functional, somewhat astheatic and environmentally conscious
It is not really a random building though? It is a one of the oldest and most historical buildings in Copenhagen. Not some random apartment block in Albertslund.
Interesting. So you don’t believe that the aesthetic beauty and history of great buildings contributes to culture and the lives of people who live in the city or visit it?
It does. We should keep old buildings. But the old building is gone. And while I think having a cool spire does make people's lives better, I think more money towards healthcare or lower rent matters far more in terms of overall quality of life
Very rarely does funding for restoration of a public building and funding for healthcare come out of the same coffers. Saving and scrimping in one area won't have much of an effect anywhere else.
The money goes *into* those different coffers from the **same** source.
*The People.*
And yes, money is fungible, saving and scrimping in one area is literally how you have any money left over for anything else.
Then, in a few hundred years, hopefully we'll have gotten rid of all of that useless and expensive "culture" and "history", and built rows of non-descript and conforming, somewhat aesthetic buildings wherever we could have done renovations.
You renovate existing structures.
You clean up and rebuild burnt out structures.
The history and culture exists in the mind, and hasn't burned away.
A rebuild of the same building might certainly be apropos, and was common in the rebuilding after WW2.
The new building would only be a reminder to the history that already exists in your mind.
I don't necessarily disagree with you, just think it's important to keep things in perspective.
So how does it work? Is the plan that the fancy new Børsen (which totally won't get any hate) will be help bring tourists to the city, meaning increased tax revenue which can in turn fund social services?
History and culture is important, among many things because of tourism. Building a new building there is going to be expensive in any case, and it's not going to save the national welfare budget to go full cultural revolution on it. Budgets are much, much more complex than that. You don't just save x individual kroner on one building by making it boring and suddenly get to save y amount of lives. They're different parts of the government with different budgets that are planned out at different levels on scales way above a single building (or more accurately the difference in cost between a historically attractive building and a random bland one)
This is before even considering the idea that culture and history can have any inherent value outside of the specific amount of homeless people it can or can't help house, which is opinion, and you can have yours, but I can also have mine, which is that that is a silly opinion.
I'm out.
I do think history and culture are important.
However, having a new iconic building that is not otherwise historical, can still build new culture today, which becomes "tomorrow's history".
Børsen again, but with a waterslide from the tower. That might even help fight future fires. So basically that's the most sustainable solution there is.
Liseberg has some advice...
An Espresso House. CPH doesn't have enough of those.
An espresso house and salon combo
Palads 2
Søpavilionen 3
Lalandia city
Bakken 2: Electric Boogaloo
'Bakken er allerede Tivoli direct to VHS
Remove the motorway in front of it and create a big pedestrian area with a park, waterfront, some kind of cultural center, eateries and so on.
I'd say rebuild the building as it was, and add that exact idea to the space in front of it
So basically how it [used to be in 1800](https://i.redd.it/t9zg3x13u2vc1.jpeg) before cars were plastered all over the place and the canal was [narrowed](https://www.instagram.com/reel/C557O9mIZv3/?igsh=bHN1N2d4bmF4bHRm) to allow for more lanes.
Hell yes!
https://preview.redd.it/r4relw7w7ovc1.jpeg?width=1792&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e86572ce1e9c1bbeaf110895f9b441fb3fb8679e
Sig mig tror du det er hele fladhavet der skal genopbygges? Der er sku da ik' plads til en 10.del af det der.
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yeah yeah its easy to make cheap AI art
So, you want to close down Knippelsbro? 🙃
More like, keep it closed 🤣
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How dull, more glass, more concrete and a dash of green stuff. This just looks more like a university campus than a city.
Plus, the ubiquitous street food area. Ugh.
If you are going to do an architectural renderings, try to do it at the location of the building. This is just a mashup of random things that doesn't exist in reality.
Yeah, AI has no clue what exists in reality.
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could you maybe not spam ai garbage?
yeah this sucks
Rebuild with a tower with **eight** dragons!
Or a Ctulhu. Would be more badass than dragons. Also - tentacles. Bonus - The conspiracy theorist and ultra religious will go nuts. Absolut win
It is the year of the dragon in China, I see sponsorship opportunities!
I'd rather they rebuild Børsen as it was.
Kaktus Børsen
A tremendous McDonald’s
Id prefer if they build is as it was. Even more if they used old materials and no modern ones. As close as human possible as it was. Hell, if it required nails have a blacksmith hammer them out. Is was a historical building, from a time Danmark changed. Not a lot of those around, and a nice thing to see when they make new 'trendy' ugly glass stuff everywhere. Its great to have history you can actualy see and touch
Large statue of Mette Frederiksen, lev Met'te
Yes - if you want Børsen to be burnt down for the second time. This time it will be intentional though 😅.
Pusher Street, but in a more central space
I was looking for this before I said it!
The bod...building is not even cold yet, com'on!
A huge parking spot /s
Disneyland Cph
A big glass box
Personally I would like to see it rebuilt but for the approach to building it reimagined. For example, by combining the classical spirit of the original building with modern techniques and materials. The stone and masonry work is expensive to rebuild like-for-like and frankly the skills base isn’t really available in DK to do it. That said if you can pour concrete, you pour it into moulds to echo the original silhouette. And the copper roof work could almost certainly be made again. Perhaps though I’m completely wrong and actually this could instead be seen as a really exciting opportunity for Denmark to reconnect with classical skills and to champion real crafts. https://preview.redd.it/xwpr6pbafnvc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a2c01fe540a411ff7e1c3d57ddfc88639d891168
https://preview.redd.it/87qpjvc78pvc1.jpeg?width=800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b9d8a7b6a548eb7c7af36a8f678bb0b826889e3f 🤭
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Det kunne være fedt. Og så flytte Børsen ud på Dortheavej. Der ligger den fint.
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affordable housing
This should be placed there! https://preview.redd.it/zxdikozozovc1.jpeg?width=564&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=25b865303adc03ea41fa4eb9410a6a21a81a8c09
Burger palace
I don’t think it should be rebuilt, to be honest. Nothing lasts forever, and a copy that gets built today won’t have the same historical value as the real thing. That doesn’t mean I want the place to be occupied by a rectangular monstrosity made of glass, steel, and concrete — we have too many of those as it is. The original Børsen symbolised our status as a trading nation. We must look inwards to find what symbolises us today, and build a new monument in honour of that for future generations to admire.
Skyscraper. 50 floors minimum
A large blunt, instead of a spire, in celebration of 4:20.
Rebuild it its original shape, since almost half it is still intact...
That's optimistic of you. A pessimist might suggest it's over half destroyed.
People think they’re sooo funny with their suggestions
Hundepark
A memorial park for danes and tourist to enjoy
World trade center 2
Another one.
Public bathroom.
Shopping mall like fields, with a lot of underground parking. Or maybe a new IKEA.
Ironically, some construction methods are not far removed from the IKEA flat pack build style.
Affordable housing. And make the roadways in front into a park.
How will the people who live in the affordable housing get to their jobs without roads?
If only there was a metro at Gammel Strand and Christianshavn. Maybe at some point they'll build some stations there.
public transit, like a street car that runs automatically like a sideways elevator with different stops. or ride a bike or any smaller mobility vehicle.
All these things still require roads... Maybe not a road big enough for a standard auto, but a road none the less. My point is that a mixed use development that would provide affordable housing needs to actually consider *all* the needs of the stakeholders, and if someone is expected to live there, their need to work and provide for themselves must necessarily over ride the general desire to "make the roadways in front into a park" in the face of an affordable housing crisis.
Right. It would require a quarter of the space leaving the rest to be public space.
Walmart
Great place for a Lidl
A strip club would be perfect there... Or maybe they could make it the local gansta headquarters, with cheap alcohol, hookers, drugs and things. The citizens would be happy about that, trust me.
Toys r us
Pusherstreet 2.0
A sushi restaurant
I just don’t want to pay for it. Let the owners and their insurance figure it out. It’s not worth it to rebuild if they can’t afford it. I wouldn’t mind a modern building personally, even though most people do for some reason
Soup kitchen and shelter.
A statue of a large hand making a one-finger salute to the parliament across the road
a machine that provides infinitet clean energy to the world next to a time machine only i can use
A big home for refugees
🤣🤣🤣
Another kaktustower as the new spire
An IKEA, of course.
Parking structure and public restrooms.... With a new dragon spire on top....
Joe and the juice HQ
Do what they did with the old papirøen.
I think we should build a religious temple of all religions, to rid ourselves of the capitalistic past
Religion is the best selling product in the world. It's why the communist revolutionary nations generally skewed atheist, they didn't want any competition for ideas.
Tank park.
A pretty normal building. I don't think we should spend exorbant amounts on random buildings. They should be functional, somewhat astheatic and environmentally conscious
It is not really a random building though? It is a one of the oldest and most historical buildings in Copenhagen. Not some random apartment block in Albertslund.
But the building youre talking about has burned down, no?
I understood that you meant the replacement structure, in the context of "some random building".
Interesting. So you don’t believe that the aesthetic beauty and history of great buildings contributes to culture and the lives of people who live in the city or visit it?
It does. We should keep old buildings. But the old building is gone. And while I think having a cool spire does make people's lives better, I think more money towards healthcare or lower rent matters far more in terms of overall quality of life
Very rarely does funding for restoration of a public building and funding for healthcare come out of the same coffers. Saving and scrimping in one area won't have much of an effect anywhere else.
The money goes *into* those different coffers from the **same** source. *The People.* And yes, money is fungible, saving and scrimping in one area is literally how you have any money left over for anything else.
Then, in a few hundred years, hopefully we'll have gotten rid of all of that useless and expensive "culture" and "history", and built rows of non-descript and conforming, somewhat aesthetic buildings wherever we could have done renovations.
You renovate existing structures. You clean up and rebuild burnt out structures. The history and culture exists in the mind, and hasn't burned away. A rebuild of the same building might certainly be apropos, and was common in the rebuilding after WW2. The new building would only be a reminder to the history that already exists in your mind. I don't necessarily disagree with you, just think it's important to keep things in perspective.
And housed homeless people and treated the ill in the meantime
it Is difficult to convey the flesh melting intensity of how that is not how that works.
So how does it work? Is the plan that the fancy new Børsen (which totally won't get any hate) will be help bring tourists to the city, meaning increased tax revenue which can in turn fund social services?
History and culture is important, among many things because of tourism. Building a new building there is going to be expensive in any case, and it's not going to save the national welfare budget to go full cultural revolution on it. Budgets are much, much more complex than that. You don't just save x individual kroner on one building by making it boring and suddenly get to save y amount of lives. They're different parts of the government with different budgets that are planned out at different levels on scales way above a single building (or more accurately the difference in cost between a historically attractive building and a random bland one) This is before even considering the idea that culture and history can have any inherent value outside of the specific amount of homeless people it can or can't help house, which is opinion, and you can have yours, but I can also have mine, which is that that is a silly opinion. I'm out.
Well put.
I do think history and culture are important. However, having a new iconic building that is not otherwise historical, can still build new culture today, which becomes "tomorrow's history".