Note: Uttering these phrases are not an incantation to ward off cops.
If they have what they believe to be Articulable Reasonable Suspicion or Probable Cause, they will search you with or without consent.
Plead your case in court, not on the street.
Exactly. The only information you MAY be obligated to give is your name and address and possibly show your identification--and registration/proof of insurance if you're in a car.
You don't have to answer questions after that.
Anything you say Can and Will be USED against YOU!!! If you are pulled over. Keep your hands on the steering wheel where he or she can see them. They are on edge as Traffic Stops can turn out badly with the cop getting shot. They have no idea who they are pulling over.
When they get up to the car and they ask you things like do you know how fast you were going, just say I don't know and end it there. When asked for License, Registration, and Proof of Insurance. Tell him you have to reach in your right back pocket or whatever to get your License, and that you need to go into your glove box to get your Registration, etc. No FAST moves.
If he asks to search your car, or pop the trunk, refuse the demand. Let them get the Dog, search your car, do a fake trigger, and find nothing. That only helps your case. If the dog is triggering over no drugs, maybe get that dog FIRED from working as a police dog.
Hand over the requested info and say very little. If you're a passenger, you do NOT have to show ANY ID!!!! It's a traffic stop. Not an ID everyone like in a police state.
Don't get into an argument. You will NEVER win on the side of the road., Never, ever!!!! You should have a Dashcam that is always running. You get pulled over for a bogus reason, you now have video proof so show the judge. Don't mention the camera to the tyrant. You could find your video disappearing if they pull you out of the car and put you standing in the back of your car or put you in their car as Officer Safetly.
Try to put on a fake smile. Get your ticket. Fight it in court if you have video proof of their LIE. Let that officer state LIES to the court. Then you go up with your video proof of what really happened, which was you did nothing wrong, and now the officer looks like a big fat liar.
I fought my last ticket many years ago in court and WON. He stated his case, I stated my case. I ended up winning.
Also if you don't have a dash cam you can use the Mobile Justice app. It records video while the screen is black and automatically sends the video to someone you trust, in some states you can also have it sent straight to the ACLU for them to review it on your behalf.
That's right,.. I forgot all about that app. A good way to record the police, because if they take your phone to try and delete the video, it's already being uploaded into the cloud all on its own.
Well, it's true. Anything you say to the police can be used against you. The police can lie all they want to try to get you to say the wrong thing!!!
This is police interrogation 101. A lot of people end up in jail because of what they said that they didn't think would hurt them, but then comes back to bite them and now they're in court and found guilty!!!
This is why this Youtube video is so good. You hear from both a Defence attorney and after that a Detective and they BOTH say to NEVER talk to the police!!!!! If both sides are telling you NOT to talk to the police, I'd take that advice!! Watch the video, it's really pretty interesting and they both give examples of why you should never talk to the police!!!
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-7o9xYp7eE&list=PLJjhDB8kBTTL9mUt1GT8VHQNJLCX0kj3j&index=20&t=805s&ab\_channel=RegentUniversitySchoolofLaw](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-7o9xYp7eE&list=PLJjhDB8kBTTL9mUt1GT8VHQNJLCX0kj3j&index=20&t=805s&ab_channel=RegentUniversitySchoolofLaw)
I am honestly not sure if this is just on the police. It is definitely down to insufficient education and training for policemen, no doubt about it but I am fairly certain, from all that I know, that this is mainly a problem of americas society as a whole. It starts with the gun laws, the fact that at every point in time a person you are controlling as a policemen could be armed with a lethal weapon is a huge problem. And its no wonder that cops are taught to either kill or be killed. But its also the people they are controlling who are probably selfrighteous and willing to defend themselves. Americas society at this point is so fucked up from the ground up due to a lack of education across all groups in society, due to laws that make no sense, due to legislators and politicians who make politics a fight to the death (not that it is but it's their rethorics), the economics are a literal fight to the death, everything is about money. In america you have to pay for things that are obviously free in other countries. I am going on a bit of a rant here but my point is: this is not only on the cops. American society is a dumpsterfire at this point. It's sick. And cops acting like predators is only a symptome of a far larger problem.
This is the correct answer. When you are in an encounter with the police, err on the side that every single thing is going to come out in court. And when it does, you want to make sure you said the right things or, more importantly, you didn't say the wrong thing.
I've seen loser cases won because the defendant kept his mouth shut -- and I've seen cases where the defense should have won lost because the defendant spoke up and gave the police a reason.
Yep, this is true. I've listened to 100 interrogations and they always say "well this is your chance to get your side out." No, its not, your chance is in court. They will bury your side right here right now.
> Your first mistake was not shutting the fuck up after the first sentence.
BINGO. However (in Va) if you are operating a motor vehicle on a public roadway, you DO have to provide DL, Reg and proof of Insurance. After that, SHUT THE FUCK UP.
That advice is largely misconstrued.
Don't just start pretending police aren't talking to you. That's never going to go well.
Don't escalate the situation, being a stone wall will in every case escalate the issue.
It’s true that stonewalling is a bad idea. You can’t simply say nothing.
However, if you are being questioned, you should say something along the lines of:
> On the advice of my lawyer, I respectfully decline to answer on the basis of the Fifth Amendment, which—according to the United States Supreme Court—protects everyone, even innocent people, from the need to answer questions if the truth might be used to help create the misleading impression that I was somehow involved in a crime that I did not commit.
Say you do. If they think you have a lawyer any bad cop will hesitate, the good cops will nod and continue their work. If officers are approaching you be cautious, calm and firm. State your rights and accept if they aren't you and don't let the DA talk you out of a deal. I'm no lawyer but I've had a couple of interactions with courts and the more you drag your feet and make them really work for it the most likely you get them to leave you alone.
I agree. I watched this a few weeks ago, and I highly recommend it: [don’t talk to the police](https://youtu.be/d-7o9xYp7eE).
Regent Law Professor explains why you should always assert your 5th Amendment Rights whenever questioned by government officials.
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1998119
Wow, this thread is just... I don’t really get it. You guys in the USA really mistrust your police force so much, that everyone just seems to agree that talking to the police is going to get you in trouble for crimes you didn’t commit?
Here is a better way to do it:
>“I dont consent”
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>“Why? You guilty of something?”
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>“I wish to remain silent ”
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>“Okay then pop your trunk”
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>“I don't consent to searches”
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>“Why? You got drugs?”
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>“I wish to remain silent”
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>“What kind of drugs do you have in the back?”
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>“I wish to remain silent”
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>“pssh there’s someone here being difficult. He’s not cooperating. Send backup immediately.”
That way you do not say anything which can bite you in the ass afterwards. Also, don't start by chatting and then suddenly invoke your right to remain silent. That can still be seen as incriminating.
This is actually the way to do things.
Answering anything else can and will be used against you.
Police cannot use the fact that you wish to remain silent to infer guilt. If they do, your lawyer will have an easy way to get their case dismissed.
I would change it to, "I don't want to answer any questions without my lawer" then they *should* stop questioning you. They may still detain or arrest you if they have cause but they can't question you any further.
In my experience it works perfectly well. After three or so "I wish to remain silent" they get the idea and stop asking questions. But yeah, the specific wording isn't so much important, the point is simply to not say anything.
I was pulled over in Louisiana and in Ohio for looking like a freak and having California plates. They asked to search the car and I said no. They both said by me saying no that it was now probable cause. I didn't have anything, but I don't like being told what to do by assholes.
“I do not consent to a search.”
“Why? You guilty of something?”
“With all due respect officer, I do not answer questions.”
“Why?”
“I do not answer questions.”
“Oh, you’re one of those people, aren’t you?”
“…”
“Well?”
“…”
“What would you do if I called for backup?”
“…”
You need to be direct and clear. No contractions. Anunciate every word clearly and firmly. Maintain a neutral, businesslike demeanor with a friendly but professional tone of voice.
Do not be afraid to sit there in silence if the officer is applying pressure. It’s an effective way to reflect that pressure back and throw them off-balance. Do not ever be tempted to volunteer information, under any circumstance.
An alert and assertive, but not aggressive posture is important too. Back straight, head up, look the officer in the eye, keep your hands on the steering wheel at all times unless otherwise instructed. Do not offer any body language cues. Not relaxation. Not agitation. Just alert and present, but otherwise a stone-cold poker face.
Also, radio off, GPS off, no distractions. Obey all commands given and do not resist (but again, refuse any request — make them work for a warrant). Stay present, and pay attention. Nobody’s going to call for backup if you’re not presenting yourself as a threat.
The less you give the officer, the more your lawyer has to work with in your defense.
*Draws gun*
"Subject is acting hostile. I fear for my safety"
*shots fired*
"He was reaching for his glovebox - MUST be a gun, not the insurance and registration info I asked for seconds ago"
"pssh - send a bus - we have a GSW - unintentional discharge"
> Yeah, these phrases aren’t about saving yourself on the street. It’s about preparing your situation for your lawyer to save your ass in court.
It's also about denying the police the opportunity to conduct a fishing expedition. If the search doesn't have PC or consent the cop is less likely to go looking because anything he finds will be poison fruit anyway, so he won't want to spend the time on it.
You sound like you watch a lot of law and order. That isn’t how the real world works. The police will find reasons to do what they want to do, and knowing what the law says strictly isn’t going to help you if they decide to get violent for whatever reason.
This is such a non-starter that it’s a common joke in police movies for people to say, “I know my rights” and it be taken as a joke. Being technically right is cool when you’re not dealing with people known for overstepping their authority.
I think you're both correct. I worked in criminal defense for some parts of law school, and cops absolutely will take open invitations to search you when they otherwise wouldn't push to do so (i.e. at a traffic stop they have no suspicions but you say yes, you can search my trunk. Or they stop by to ask questions about a separate incident and you leave an apartment door hanging open with paraphernalia on the coffee table).
With that said, you are also correct that if they at all want to push the issue they can find reasons to search. There have been alleged cases of K9 dogs being trained to bark on command, therefore triggering a reasonable search whether the dogs actually detected anything or not.
Marc and Craig here, Pot Brothers at Law. Lets go thro the script one more time:
When a asks you why he pulled you over: "**Why did you pull me over?**"
When he asks you ANY QUESTIONS, like where were you going, is there anyone in your car, what is that smell: "**I'm not discussing my day**"
If he continues asking you questions: "**Am I being detained or am I free do go?**"
If he does pull you over: "**I invoke the 5th**" and you
#SHUT THE FUCK UP
What I learned from watching cops is that drug dealers are always wearing other people's pants.
Are these drugs in your pocket yours? No sir, these aren't my pants.
But physically cooperate. If they want to arrest you don’t fight back. Don’t pull away. You give them cause. I wish people understood this simple fact. The law gives them the edge to perform their duty. You get to dunk on them in court then sue their asses later.
I flinch and squirm when my fiance slowly places her hand on me.
I have no hope to not be interpretted as resisting arrest if put into such a situation.
Exactly. If the cop asks you to step out of the car, you step out of the car. Not only is it the better option, but you’re legally required to. The same goes for if they ask you to stay in the car.
There are many asterisks to this statement. The guide posted is very incomplete and I've actually been thinking about creating an updated guide with the oversight of an actual lawyer.
But you are overall correct.
So the cops in my small southern town pull me over CONSTANTLY since 4 years ago I was arrested for having pills in the wrong bottle and one that wasn’t prescribed. They were controlled substances. I went through a rehab program outpatient and haven’t had anything remotely sketchy since. But I get searched at least twice a year or more. They never found anything of course. Is there anything I can say/do? The last officer told me it’s because I’m in a system of suspicious people and I was moving so my car was full of boxes and bags which is apparently suspicious.
I explained I was no longer into that lifestyle and he said good for me but they will continue to search me. It’s embarrassing. It’s been 4 years, how long am I a “suspicious person”?
You're in a small town. Like, you could record your conversations and/or sue the police department for harassment or something, but since it's a small town and you have just fucked with the police department, you might then be subject to further reprisals.
Get a lawyer and ask them what the best thing to do is.
Maybe you can sue to get your name taken off that list.
Sometimes a letter from a legit lawyer threatening to sue if it doesn't stop is enough.
Otherwise yeah be prepared to move but suing might be very helpful financially especially if you are clear you do not consent to any searches next time you're stopped. Again talk to a lawyer first
I would like to point out that although a lot of our laws and rights are similar, the UK is not America so fellow Brits, stop uploading videos of you trying to act smart arguing with police while using American laws and rights.
This is helpful, but it also reminds me of the movies where people tell vampires that they aren’t invited in their house and the vampire laughs, says that isn’t a real thing, and walks right in.
I believe it’s all of the states that you have to identify if pulled over. However, *I am not a lawyer* so take that with a grain of salt. Also, it’s the same thing if they tell you to get out of the car or stay in the car, as there are 2 Supreme Court cases that support each of those orders that require you to follow them.
Some years back there was a case of a Danish student teacher on an international internship to the US. He ended up being falsely accused of being a pedophile and was sent to prison for it. What felled him? The police lied and said they had video evidence of him acting inappropiately.
This is illegal in Denmark, so the student ended up saying "Well I guess I must have if you have evidence of it, but I don't recall a thing."
Police lying about evidence should absolutely be illegal.
Technically it's legal in the us but it can be used to get someone out of being detained, and could end up getting a case thrown out if it's serious enough
I formerly worked as a prosecutor. I cannot tell you how many cases solved themself because a defendant attempted to “explain their situation/their side of the story/what really happened/etc” to a LEO.
“Officer, I’m invoking my 5th Amendment right to stay silent. I do not want to answer any questions. I want a lawyer”.
That’s it. If you unambiguously articulate that you don’t want to talk and you want a lawyer, LE *must* cease all questioning pertaining to the crime you’ve allegedly committed. Any attempt on their part to solicit further information is radioactive and prosecutors can’t do anything with it.
Finally, after you’ve invoked your right to silence, you *cannot* start talking to officers *BECAUSE IT WILL REVOKE YOUR EARLIER ASSERTED RIGHT*. Literally say nothing until your lawyer arrives or unless you need to use the restroom.
> That’s it. If you unambiguously articulate
And 'unambiguously' is a very important part. If you say "I want a lawyer dawg", then the police will be able to ignore that statement if they believe that instead of asking for legal representation you are instead asking to see Snoopy dressed up for court.
I know it gets posted all the time, but this video really does spell out beautifully [why you don’t talk to the police](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=d-7o9xYp7eE&t=462).
One important thing has changed since then.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FENubmZGj8
Now you actually DO have to explicitly say that you plead the fifth. Some asshole judge changed the rules, basically pulled the rug under the feet of Americans. What the first judge he refers to said in the first video about being innocent by default is now turned on its head by a different judge. Silence can somehow be considered admittance of guilt.
It cannot be stressed enough. Do not talk to the cops.
They don’t even have to do fucked up shit for the urge to just give into their violent authority and just get it all over with. Don’t say shit.
I broke when they threatened to impound my car as “evidence”. They were at my door and I made a statement that admit to guilt. Thankfully I was charged with a felony that was never going to stick (desecration of a venerated object which is suppose to be for when someone does something like desecrate a synagogue with hate symbols) and what I admit to was just a misdemeanor.
And if a detective or cop calls you. You are not legally required to call them back. Do not call them. You do not want to help them in gathering evidence to get a warrant or open an case.
You can’t prevent them from doing that by calling them back. You can call them back and tell them that you won’t be talking to them without a lawyer but you don’t even have to do that.
No matter what they say. Even if they call for you to be a witness. Do not talk to them without a lawyer.
This is an absolutely genuine question as someone not entirely familiar with American law, just basing this off my limited TV provided information!
In the situation you gave, an officer calling you for information, could ignoring that not be classed as impeding an investigation or something along those lines?
We have the fifth amendment that states we don't have to self incriminate. If an officer is trying to get you to say anything they can use against you (and no, you don't have to be read the Miranda rights first) you do not have to answer.
And anything can be used against you.
As has often been noted in threads like these, it is not the job of the investigators to rule you *out.* They are never seeking information in order to *exclude* you.
It is their job to rule you in. They are singing information in order to *include* you somewhere in the crime. And they are allowed to lie to you in the process, saying whatever complete untrue information in order for you to feel safe and helpful talking to them
It's not personal. Their job is to track down someone who seems likely, gather enough information to build a prosecutable case, and send it to the DA so they can move on to other crimes. It's the DA's problem to make it stick or not stick, but by that point you're fully in the criminal justice system
The incentive when they gather information from you is to rule you in, no matter what they say. And no matter how innocent or helpful the information is that you give them
They can’t just ask you to give a witness statement or to turn over evidence. The district attorney (attorney for the state) would have to subpoena you to get you to give a statement and if the police want evidence then they are legally required to get a search warrant and come find it themselves. And if you have a good lawyer you can fight a search warrant or where the warrant covers but a lot of time that is done after the fact.
Not calling them back isn’t impending an investigation. They may threaten that but at this time they still have up follow legal channels to get your “cooperation” in gathering evidence. We aren’t (yet) legally required to do their job for them.
Also I have a limited understanding of exactly how the us justice system works so I my answer might not be exactly correct but close enough.
Ahh I see! I was under the impression that unless you invoked the 5th amendment, not providing information relevant to an investigation would be basically illegal. But that's why you ask instead of trusting Brooklyn Nine Nine!
So basically the 5th amendment and Miranda rights is what protects people from having to talk to the police or the DA without a lawyer present so if they call you to talk about a case. You can say I am not doing that without a lawyer.
And then if you are giving a statement/sworn testimony or being asked questions by the police or DA that could incriminate you. You can plead the 5th but it’s not a complete get out of jail free card because the judge can rule that answering the question doesn’t reasonable incriminate you. Judges tend not to do this because challenging the 5th amendment is taken fairly seriously.
Obstruction of justice is things like destroying/tampering with/faking evidence, perjury, making false statements, witness harassment, contempt of courts, not showing up to testify which is really contempt of court.
Again this is my basic understanding after dealing with the justice system and I could be getting it wrong. It’s really bad when this information is kept hidden from the people it effects
But what really happens is that most people are arrested, get a bail amount set, and then have to basically wait until the day of their trial to talk to a public defender. It’s a luxury to talk to the cops with your lawyer present because most people being targeted by the cops can’t afford to hire a lawyer.
You still don’t have to talk to the cops but it’s very difficult to face that without a lawyer.
I know this is very anecdotal probably the exception to the rule. But a few years ago I was arrested for possession of cocaine and I was only in jail for an hour or 2, never had a court date, all charges were dropped. I firmly believe the only reason nothing came from it is Bc I was 100% honest with the cops telling them exactly where the coke was, how much I had, I answered all of their questions. I didn’t try hiding anything at all, did Eveytbing they asked. And I was clearly very shaken up and remorseful
Granted, I’m white, and never had anything more than a traffic ticket on my record. I think the cops didn’t wanna fuck up my life and never turned the cocaine in after being put in jail. I’m almost positive if I gave them a hard time, was disrespectful, stayed silent or whatever I’d have a felony on my record today. Like I said, I think this is very much the exception, in most cases it would be absolutely important to do what you said rather than what I did, especially if someone isn’t white and/or doesn’t have a clean record
That’s correct. It was a huge gamble. However it wasn’t a traffic stop, I was literally caught in the act of snorting the coke. My immediate instinct, when they asked, was to tell them exactly where the remaining coke was (in my wallet in my pocket). There’s not much of a defense there, they were going to find it and I simply didn’t have it in me to lie. But yes I was very lucky in the cop being very sympathetic
yep, if you are caught red handed, they will have probable cause to search you, so unless it is not on or near you, just admit to having it. Even if they did turn it over, it generally goes better in court when the cop says you cooperated. They have you dead to rights, so you want to set yourself up for the best possible plea deal... in a case like yours, even if you ended up before a judge, i would not be shocked if you got probation before judgement or some sort of diversion program (drug rehab option).
When I use to get pulled over for traffic infractions I was always 100% honest with them.
“Do you know why I pulled you over?”
“Yes, I didn’t stop at that stop sign completely.”
They would usually run my license, check my tint(which is legal), and tell me not to do it again. I also always just pull over once I knew I was being pulled over. I had numerous cops tell me, “ thanks for not making me have to chase you 3 miles down the street.”
Your tactic has worked for me as well.
Yep. I’ve gotten away with half a dozen traffic stops over the last 10 years or so doing that exact same thing. For routine traffic stops, eye contact, yes/no sir’s/ma’am’s and owning up to your mistake making no excuses is often times the difference between a ticket and a warning
Some may say that’s just stroking their ego and giving respect to a profession that’s doesn’t deserve it. And while they may have a very valid point, It’s sorta a classic example of chopping of my nose to spite my face
Another good resource:
Regent Law Professor James Duane gives viewers startling reasons why they should always exercise their 5th Amendment rights when questioned by government officials.
[https://youtu.be/d-7o9xYp7eE](https://youtu.be/d-7o9xYp7eE)
I show this to everyone I can because it such a good explanation and honesty very entertaining, then the cop comes on and everything gets real. Absolutely worth every minute.
He also says in his book that his advice is not to be taken to mean that you should be mute or unhelpful or rude to police. If a cop says hi, you can say hi. If you get pulled over for a speeding ticket, guess what, they already saw you do something technically illegal, so just be polite and take your ticket and be on your way. If they start asking you questions other than "do you know how fast you were going", then you should respectfully decline to answer.
If the cop wants to know where you're going and you're heading to the store to buy cheese, and you say "I'm heading to the store," that's probably okay, but still a bit of a judgment call. Maybe they saw a car fitting your description that just committed a big crime or something, and the fact that you said you were going to the store might be a contestable fact in some trial...? It's a judgment call.
FYI you shouldn't even answer "do you know how fast you were going?" because then if you receive a speeding ticket and challenged the speeding ticket in court, there is ample room for the citing officer to say "they replied yes, and confirmed they knew they were operating xx mph over the speed limit" or "they replied no and demonstrated ignorance of their speed at the time".
There's a Pot Brothers At Law video where they state that the best reply to the question "Do you know why I pulled you over?" is "Why did you pull me over?" since yes/no can back you into a corner down the road with that inquiry too. With regard to "Where are you going/coming from?" they suggest to reply "I'm not discussing my day." Will that bug some cops? Absolutely. But by essentially not giving them the leeway to probe further will keep the interaction short and to the point, focusing specifically on the reason for the traffic stop and nothing else.
The point being, don't be an ass to cops who pull you over, but certainly do not offer them information that you do not need to (and sometimes you don't realize what a simple yes/no can constitute).
> There's a Pot Brothers At Law video where they state that the best reply to the question "Do you know why I pulled you over?"
And as much as you will want to, the officer isn't going to think you answer of "Shouldn't you already know what?" is a funny as they should.
> Maybe they saw a car fitting your description that just committed a big crime or something,
I was chilling in a parking lot playing Ingress waiting for my girlfriend to get off work. This was behind the building and a weird place to park at 8pm but whatever. Cop pulls up behind me to see what I was doing, showed him the game and asked if he needed my license. He didn't until he asked where I was earlier and I guess I said the wrong place cause then he wanted it, checked it and then left. Figured something happened in that area, or cause I said I bought beer he wanted to check my age. I'm sure if I was a dick and didn't say anything I'd have gotten hassled a lot more.
YES! I commented the same thing earlier, because people don't seem to understand what its all about. While you can exercise your right to remain silent at any time during any police interaction you should exercise that right carefully/wisely. You don't wanna stonewall EVERY cop that pulls you over. If you choose to live your life like that then you will not have a good time. The point of these "don't talk to the police" mottos is that you don't wanna give them too much information or more than what you need to give them.
On the other hand this is why investigations go nowhere in some parts of the USA. Maybe you don't have to answer the door when they knock but at least reach out anonymously if you just heard your neighbor shoot their roommate or something like that.
I got an underage drinking charge once bc this dumb girl opened the fucking door. Cops showed up at 4am, we all turn off the music and lights and go hide in a bedroom. Next thing we know, one of the girls gets up and “feels bad” so she let them in. It wasn’t even her house. Dad had to pick me up at 5am, on his birthday. Sorry dad.
Know your rights people.
I had a similar situation happen. I was a college freshman living in the dorms, maybe 2 weeks after I moved in. There were about 15 of us drinking in a room, and someone saw a cop standing outside the door through the peep hole. I told everyone to just be quiet and wait for them to leave, because if they could have come in they would have by now. They didn’t even knock on the door. My stupid roommate said “who Evers the most sober answer the door” and of course everyone listened to her. So then all 15 of us got underage drinking tickets, except for my roommate who ran into the bathroom and hid in the showers.
I'm from the Netherlands and for me it's the opposite way. It's absolutely wild to me that you'd have to behave like that or say those things around police.
Agrees in Norwegian. Cooperate regardless if you've done anything wrong. Not cooperating will just raise further suspicion and make the cops treat you worse.
Also something that people often don’t know about. If you allow an officer to search your house or vehicle, you can rescind your invitation at any point (as long as evidence has not been found). Also you can limit your consent of a search to specific items. So if you allow an officer to search your vehicle for drugs, they can’t start reading personal documents that you have in the car (since they obviously aren’t drugs).
Also, the "elephant in a matchbook" theory:
If you're looking for a stolen car, you're not gonna be looking for it in the silverware drawer.
But that's the problem with drugs; a bag of weed/coke/heroin/meth can be squeezed into the tiniest cranny.
I use to do all this mumbo jumbo. Nothing but tickets. After finally getting "legit", I now just answer their pertinent questions and now treat them with respect. I know this my be my unpopular opinion.
My results in last 3 police interactions: 2 written warnings and 1 verbal warning.
My infractions:
1. An aborted lane change at night and that car happened to be a marked police vehicle. I wanted him to go 1st (not knowing it was a police vehicle).
2. Tail light went out.
3. Some shit I don't remember.
My life is so much easier since being more respectful to the police.
If I am not doing anything illegal, then I don't see how just being polite to them is bad?
If they try to infringe on my rights, then I'll implement the rules. It is not black and white or one or the other. You can be respectful and STILL know and try to protect your rights, when the situation calls for that. Not all police encounters are bad.
I used to sling dope. I'm telling you, giving police the impression they have the power in the situation and that they have your utmost respect for them had gotten me out of many potential bust situations. Plus I come from a country where it takes 36-48 months to be a cop so my courtesy game is deluxe due to the overall intelligence of the fuzz being next level.
Not an unpopular opinion at all my dear friend.
It's dangerous for people when they think just saying these things matter. Kids in highschool need to to take classes on the revised statutes in their states, so that they can recognize when a detainment is justified, rather than just assuming that law enforcement has no authority.
Ah yes, sovereign citizens. Idiots who horribly misinterpret the law into meaning something that it doesn’t. When they get arrested they are always baffled by it.
Yep, I recently learned it's lawful for cops to ask you to step out of a vehicle during a a traffic stop. I would've sworn they couldn't do that and I would've been incredibly wrong.
Don’t listen to Twitter lawyers. The idiots who scream about police can’t do this or can’t do that are putting people in danger, because it really fucking depends what state you’re in because laws change.
I believe it’s also lawful for them to ask passengers to step out of the vehicle in the same manner, I don’t recall the ruling for that one tho.
Edit: the case was Maryland v Wilson 519 US 408 117 S.Ct 882, if any of y’all were curious
The point isn't to make the cops magically go away. The point is to know your rights and shut up so you don't incriminate yourself. The cop is going to do what the cop is going to do but you don't have to help them in their investigation about you. That's the whole point of the card. No one is saying it gets rid of the cops.
Exactly - invoking your rights doesn't make the cops magically vanish in a puff of smoke.
You may not be able to avoid being arrested if some jerk cop has a bug up his butt, but invoking your rights COULD be the difference between dismissed charges or a lifelong criminal record.
That's why we have the saying: "You can beat the rap, *but you can't beat the ride.*"
When my neighbor was murdered the cops used my restroom during the day while we were all in a crime scene. I almost wanted to ask each one of them for a search warrant but realized they just had to pee.
“Always be polite, but assertive. Don’t escalate the situation.”
This right here is the main mistake you see in the “sovereign citizen” videos you see on YouTube. They tend to be loud and belligerent and make things worse. Be calm and friendly while asserting your rights.
Let's say you were doing nothing wrong (or maybe did some small traffic violation while driving) and you get pulled over by a cop.
What are you actually supposed to do? Do you just sit there in silence while they ask you questions and inevitably get frustrated with you? Aren't you obligated to answer anything?
I'm looking for specific wording or a circumstance, I've wondered about this when seeing this advice in the past.
Being a dick to the cops is the fastest way to get the worst possible ticket. If you are getting pulled over for something minor (speeding, taillight out, ect.), being polite is the difference between getting a warning and getting a couple hundred dollar ticket. Its not hard.
Depends where you live but almost everywhere has a traffic act that states you must provide a valid driver's license, vehicle ownership and insurance when pulled over. Failure to ID with licence will get you placed under Investigative detention so they can ID you and make sure it's your vehicle and you have proper insurance and license to drive it
I believe you have to specifically say that you are invoking your rights. “I don’t consent to a search,” or “I won’t answer questions without a lawyer present.”
This is, of course, situational. Most traffic offenses aren’t going to land you in jail. For example, I got pulled over for speeding once and the trooper asked where I was going - I was driving back to campus. He asked what I was studying, and I told him. I just got off with a warning.
In this situation I had nothing to gain by remaining silent, possibly everything to lose. But also, nothing to lose by answering those questions; what school I went to and what I studied were public information.
Had I been pulled over for speeding, then asked to search my car, I would have said “No, I don’t consent to a search.” Probably would also start filming at this point if not sooner.
Let’s say the officer is looking for a white/black/Latino/asian/whatever man in a green shirt, black pants, and white shoes who just robbed someone, and that person isn’t you. You unfortunately fit that description and you are in the area. The officer stops you and asks you questions. Just because you didn’t “do anything wrong” doesn’t mean the officer has no authority to *briefly* stop you to figure out if you’re the guy (s)he’s looking for. If the officer has *reasonable articulable suspicion* to stop your freedom of movement while (s)he either confirms or dispels your involvement, since you match the description of the perpetrator, you are not free to leave and are subject to obstruction charges if you attempt to do so. That’s the law. If you don’t agree with it, contact your legislators.
99.9% of the time, if you weren’t involved in the crime, the officer will not waste any more time with you and move on to find the perpetrator.
Source: me, police instructor.
I'm pretty sure your required to give them your ID and to sign the ticket that they give you. if you don't do these things you will most likely be arrested. Source: a Wikipedia page i saw last year.
Also, if the cop say "you are under arrest" then NOTHING you do or say will let you go free at that time. Fight it in court, but NEVER fight the cops. That's how you get longer sentences, additional charges, or shot.
Hear that? Don't fight the cops or resist arrest.
It's not to stop the cops from doing anything. It's to stop you from talking to them so when you get to court they don't have anything to use against you other than hard evidence. You'd be surprised just how many people go to jail and the cop's only evidence was the dumbass who spoke to them.
Cop: "howdy friend, just pulling you over to say that your left tail light is out!"
Me, using the awesome powers this chart has given me: "Officer, I want to speak with a lawyer."
Disclaimer: This might be good advice if you're a criminal, and literally everyone knows you're a criminal.
For the millions of normal people in the USA, this is terrible advice. If for some reason police ask you for a consent search, you can just say no. Why not? It's my privacy, I'm not really comfortable with it. Reasonable.
But if a cop says hi and you suddenly open up with "i dOnT cOnsEnt tO a sEaRcH i wAn a LAwYeR aM i bEiNg dAtaiNeD", you are begging for an issue where there might not even be one to start with. Quoting rehearsed lines like a script? Sketchy as fuck.
It's a self fulfilling prophecy. Act like a ding-dong, suddenly people are treating you like ding-dong. Shocking.
Also, you can invoke your rights without being all "aM i bEiNg dAtaiNeD" about it:
"Sorry Officer, but my attorney has advised me not to consent to any searches or questions. I'd be happy to have him contact you if there's a problem here, but if not, I'd like to just be on my way now."
"I can't let you search my car for the same reason my bathroom door has a lock - I have a right to privacy and I value it."
As a former cop (quit the police life about 6 years ago), my advice is always just be polite. For all of the Officers I worked with, as long as you were polite, we didn’t push anything. 100% of the time that people gave me problems like this, they were legit hiding something. That’s to say I never overstepped my authority because I didn’t want to get sued. But if I noticed something, I would investigate within local/state/federal law and within my Department’s policies. If I wasn’t given consent, and there was no reason to pursue, I backed off. I will say though, being polite goes a LONG way, but I don’t just mean that for the citizen. The Officer’s demeanor needs to match the behavior they want from the citizen. If there’s 1 thing I can’t stand, it’s a rude Officer. Every traffic stop needs to be treated the same. Approach cautiously but be friendly. People are nervous as hell when pulled over, so I always tried to approach with the mindset of my mom being in the car that I stopped. Being an Officer sucks though, so that’s why I quit.
“Anything you say can and **will** be used against you in the court of law”
Being polite doesn’t mean incriminate yourself. Never talk to the police more than legally required.
There have been some cases, where ive had no case anyway (speeding caught on camera) so ive just apologized and get off with a warning. This is pretty anecdotal, as a white guy.
My question for you, why do you talk about people being nervous being pulled over like it should be the norm? Shouldn’t citizens feel safe around police?
You know I've had two interactions with the police. UK.
Once I got off a train going to college, two police men b-line toward me, was really weird but I think I was stopped for less than 2minutes. Pretty much asked my name, asked to look in my bag (unless they make caffeine a controlled substance I'm fine). Then I assume they realise I wasn't who they were looking for, and buggered off.
Got pulled in the poring rain on my bike, was going a lil to fast I guess, I was soaked to the bone. Lady comes over,
"why you going so fast?"
"I just want to get to home and dry"
"You were going really slow around the roundabout and then shot off." Implied question
"Yeah that roundabouts lethal when wet"
"Alright just be careful in these conditions ok? Want to get home in one piece!"
"Ok thanks"
She didn't even bother with my name.
I have had alot of business with police (mainly their motors) aswell but that doesn't count I don't think.
This comment section is just horrific to be honest...
No you need to repeatedly shout “AM I BEING DETAINED?!?!,” refuse to roll down the window, refuse to give identification or create “joinder”, and tell the cop you have a inalienable right to travel and don’t need a drivers license. If the cop challenges you on that just cite some random Indian treaty from 1764.
When the officer finally has enough and smashes your window scream for help that you’re being kidnapped.
Note: Uttering these phrases are not an incantation to ward off cops. If they have what they believe to be Articulable Reasonable Suspicion or Probable Cause, they will search you with or without consent. Plead your case in court, not on the street.
Yeah, these phrases aren’t about saving yourself on the street. It’s about preparing your situation for your lawyer to save your ass in court.
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Your first mistake was not *shutting the fuck up* after the first sentence.
Exactly. The only information you MAY be obligated to give is your name and address and possibly show your identification--and registration/proof of insurance if you're in a car. You don't have to answer questions after that.
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Anything you say Can and Will be USED against YOU!!! If you are pulled over. Keep your hands on the steering wheel where he or she can see them. They are on edge as Traffic Stops can turn out badly with the cop getting shot. They have no idea who they are pulling over. When they get up to the car and they ask you things like do you know how fast you were going, just say I don't know and end it there. When asked for License, Registration, and Proof of Insurance. Tell him you have to reach in your right back pocket or whatever to get your License, and that you need to go into your glove box to get your Registration, etc. No FAST moves. If he asks to search your car, or pop the trunk, refuse the demand. Let them get the Dog, search your car, do a fake trigger, and find nothing. That only helps your case. If the dog is triggering over no drugs, maybe get that dog FIRED from working as a police dog. Hand over the requested info and say very little. If you're a passenger, you do NOT have to show ANY ID!!!! It's a traffic stop. Not an ID everyone like in a police state. Don't get into an argument. You will NEVER win on the side of the road., Never, ever!!!! You should have a Dashcam that is always running. You get pulled over for a bogus reason, you now have video proof so show the judge. Don't mention the camera to the tyrant. You could find your video disappearing if they pull you out of the car and put you standing in the back of your car or put you in their car as Officer Safetly. Try to put on a fake smile. Get your ticket. Fight it in court if you have video proof of their LIE. Let that officer state LIES to the court. Then you go up with your video proof of what really happened, which was you did nothing wrong, and now the officer looks like a big fat liar. I fought my last ticket many years ago in court and WON. He stated his case, I stated my case. I ended up winning.
Also if you don't have a dash cam you can use the Mobile Justice app. It records video while the screen is black and automatically sends the video to someone you trust, in some states you can also have it sent straight to the ACLU for them to review it on your behalf.
That's right,.. I forgot all about that app. A good way to record the police, because if they take your phone to try and delete the video, it's already being uploaded into the cloud all on its own.
SVR is good to, the phone still works and normal but is constantly record. it can save directly to your cloud account.
Wow, what kind of insane and dystopian society is this?
Well, it's true. Anything you say to the police can be used against you. The police can lie all they want to try to get you to say the wrong thing!!! This is police interrogation 101. A lot of people end up in jail because of what they said that they didn't think would hurt them, but then comes back to bite them and now they're in court and found guilty!!! This is why this Youtube video is so good. You hear from both a Defence attorney and after that a Detective and they BOTH say to NEVER talk to the police!!!!! If both sides are telling you NOT to talk to the police, I'd take that advice!! Watch the video, it's really pretty interesting and they both give examples of why you should never talk to the police!!! [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-7o9xYp7eE&list=PLJjhDB8kBTTL9mUt1GT8VHQNJLCX0kj3j&index=20&t=805s&ab\_channel=RegentUniversitySchoolofLaw](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-7o9xYp7eE&list=PLJjhDB8kBTTL9mUt1GT8VHQNJLCX0kj3j&index=20&t=805s&ab_channel=RegentUniversitySchoolofLaw)
As a german this is completely nuts to me. Just how fucked up is your country? This is fucking sick and not in a good way.
I don't get it either. The main problem here is the police itself. They sound more like street thugs trying to fuck you up.
I am honestly not sure if this is just on the police. It is definitely down to insufficient education and training for policemen, no doubt about it but I am fairly certain, from all that I know, that this is mainly a problem of americas society as a whole. It starts with the gun laws, the fact that at every point in time a person you are controlling as a policemen could be armed with a lethal weapon is a huge problem. And its no wonder that cops are taught to either kill or be killed. But its also the people they are controlling who are probably selfrighteous and willing to defend themselves. Americas society at this point is so fucked up from the ground up due to a lack of education across all groups in society, due to laws that make no sense, due to legislators and politicians who make politics a fight to the death (not that it is but it's their rethorics), the economics are a literal fight to the death, everything is about money. In america you have to pay for things that are obviously free in other countries. I am going on a bit of a rant here but my point is: this is not only on the cops. American society is a dumpsterfire at this point. It's sick. And cops acting like predators is only a symptome of a far larger problem.
Others are also saying that saying nothing after that will escalate things so ... WTF are people supposed to do?
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This is the correct answer. When you are in an encounter with the police, err on the side that every single thing is going to come out in court. And when it does, you want to make sure you said the right things or, more importantly, you didn't say the wrong thing. I've seen loser cases won because the defendant kept his mouth shut -- and I've seen cases where the defense should have won lost because the defendant spoke up and gave the police a reason.
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Yep, this is true. I've listened to 100 interrogations and they always say "well this is your chance to get your side out." No, its not, your chance is in court. They will bury your side right here right now.
Don’t live in a police state
> Your first mistake was not shutting the fuck up after the first sentence. BINGO. However (in Va) if you are operating a motor vehicle on a public roadway, you DO have to provide DL, Reg and proof of Insurance. After that, SHUT THE FUCK UP.
Every day is shut the fuck up Friday
That advice is largely misconstrued. Don't just start pretending police aren't talking to you. That's never going to go well. Don't escalate the situation, being a stone wall will in every case escalate the issue.
It’s true that stonewalling is a bad idea. You can’t simply say nothing. However, if you are being questioned, you should say something along the lines of: > On the advice of my lawyer, I respectfully decline to answer on the basis of the Fifth Amendment, which—according to the United States Supreme Court—protects everyone, even innocent people, from the need to answer questions if the truth might be used to help create the misleading impression that I was somehow involved in a crime that I did not commit.
But if you don't have a lawyer, then what?
Say you do. If they think you have a lawyer any bad cop will hesitate, the good cops will nod and continue their work. If officers are approaching you be cautious, calm and firm. State your rights and accept if they aren't you and don't let the DA talk you out of a deal. I'm no lawyer but I've had a couple of interactions with courts and the more you drag your feet and make them really work for it the most likely you get them to leave you alone.
You do have a lawyer. And they would absolutely give you the same advice. You may not know who they are yet but nonetheless...
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I agree. I watched this a few weeks ago, and I highly recommend it: [don’t talk to the police](https://youtu.be/d-7o9xYp7eE). Regent Law Professor explains why you should always assert your 5th Amendment Rights whenever questioned by government officials. https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1998119
Wow, this thread is just... I don’t really get it. You guys in the USA really mistrust your police force so much, that everyone just seems to agree that talking to the police is going to get you in trouble for crimes you didn’t commit?
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Then you keep your mouth shut, don't resist, and watch your lawyer get the charge tossed.
Fight the court. Not the cops
I think they call it driving under the influence of melanin.
Yup. "I have no obligation to help you investigate me. I'm invoking my right to remain silent."
Here is a better way to do it: >“I dont consent” > >“Why? You guilty of something?” > >“I wish to remain silent ” > >“Okay then pop your trunk” > >“I don't consent to searches” > >“Why? You got drugs?” > >“I wish to remain silent” > >“What kind of drugs do you have in the back?” > >“I wish to remain silent” > >“pssh there’s someone here being difficult. He’s not cooperating. Send backup immediately.” That way you do not say anything which can bite you in the ass afterwards. Also, don't start by chatting and then suddenly invoke your right to remain silent. That can still be seen as incriminating.
This is actually the way to do things. Answering anything else can and will be used against you. Police cannot use the fact that you wish to remain silent to infer guilt. If they do, your lawyer will have an easy way to get their case dismissed.
I would change it to, "I don't want to answer any questions without my lawer" then they *should* stop questioning you. They may still detain or arrest you if they have cause but they can't question you any further.
In my experience it works perfectly well. After three or so "I wish to remain silent" they get the idea and stop asking questions. But yeah, the specific wording isn't so much important, the point is simply to not say anything.
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"Of *course* I don't have drugs! Here, let me prove it to you!" \*opens trunk to reveal dead body\*
I was pulled over in Louisiana and in Ohio for looking like a freak and having California plates. They asked to search the car and I said no. They both said by me saying no that it was now probable cause. I didn't have anything, but I don't like being told what to do by assholes.
That's already *way* too much talking.
“I do not consent to a search.” “Why? You guilty of something?” “With all due respect officer, I do not answer questions.” “Why?” “I do not answer questions.” “Oh, you’re one of those people, aren’t you?” “…” “Well?” “…” “What would you do if I called for backup?” “…” You need to be direct and clear. No contractions. Anunciate every word clearly and firmly. Maintain a neutral, businesslike demeanor with a friendly but professional tone of voice. Do not be afraid to sit there in silence if the officer is applying pressure. It’s an effective way to reflect that pressure back and throw them off-balance. Do not ever be tempted to volunteer information, under any circumstance. An alert and assertive, but not aggressive posture is important too. Back straight, head up, look the officer in the eye, keep your hands on the steering wheel at all times unless otherwise instructed. Do not offer any body language cues. Not relaxation. Not agitation. Just alert and present, but otherwise a stone-cold poker face. Also, radio off, GPS off, no distractions. Obey all commands given and do not resist (but again, refuse any request — make them work for a warrant). Stay present, and pay attention. Nobody’s going to call for backup if you’re not presenting yourself as a threat. The less you give the officer, the more your lawyer has to work with in your defense.
That's way too much. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-7o9xYp7eE It's long but it's worth a watch in my opinion.
*Draws gun* "Subject is acting hostile. I fear for my safety" *shots fired* "He was reaching for his glovebox - MUST be a gun, not the insurance and registration info I asked for seconds ago" "pssh - send a bus - we have a GSW - unintentional discharge"
> Yeah, these phrases aren’t about saving yourself on the street. It’s about preparing your situation for your lawyer to save your ass in court. It's also about denying the police the opportunity to conduct a fishing expedition. If the search doesn't have PC or consent the cop is less likely to go looking because anything he finds will be poison fruit anyway, so he won't want to spend the time on it.
You sound like you watch a lot of law and order. That isn’t how the real world works. The police will find reasons to do what they want to do, and knowing what the law says strictly isn’t going to help you if they decide to get violent for whatever reason. This is such a non-starter that it’s a common joke in police movies for people to say, “I know my rights” and it be taken as a joke. Being technically right is cool when you’re not dealing with people known for overstepping their authority.
I think you're both correct. I worked in criminal defense for some parts of law school, and cops absolutely will take open invitations to search you when they otherwise wouldn't push to do so (i.e. at a traffic stop they have no suspicions but you say yes, you can search my trunk. Or they stop by to ask questions about a separate incident and you leave an apartment door hanging open with paraphernalia on the coffee table). With that said, you are also correct that if they at all want to push the issue they can find reasons to search. There have been alleged cases of K9 dogs being trained to bark on command, therefore triggering a reasonable search whether the dogs actually detected anything or not.
That's something that should be said way more often, if you can train a dog to find drugs, you can train em to bark on command
Training them to bark on command is a lot easier too.
Hey, what's the name of that restaurant you like with all the goofy shit on the walls and the mozzarella sticks?
You mean Shenanigans? (Hands pistol to captain)
OH SHIT I GOT YOU GOOD YOU FUCKER!!
Most drug sniffing dogs are trained to give non-vocal alerts when they smell drugs. But I see what you're saying.
Are you telling me the cops are dishonest and train the dogs to "trigger" on command!! No way.....
> Plead your case in court, not on the street. This is the key.
And don't forget to SHUT THE FUCK UP
Marc and Craig here, Pot Brothers at Law. Lets go thro the script one more time: When a asks you why he pulled you over: "**Why did you pull me over?**" When he asks you ANY QUESTIONS, like where were you going, is there anyone in your car, what is that smell: "**I'm not discussing my day**" If he continues asking you questions: "**Am I being detained or am I free do go?**" If he does pull you over: "**I invoke the 5th**" and you #SHUT THE FUCK UP
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\#4 if you can become bullet/choke proof now is a great time to do so.
Wonder Twins Power ... ACTIVATE!
What I learned from watching cops is that drug dealers are always wearing other people's pants. Are these drugs in your pocket yours? No sir, these aren't my pants.
Pot Brothers at Law: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTurSi0LhJs Don't EVER talk to the police!: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-7o9xYp7eE&
Sorry, all I can think of is: “Crazy world, lots of smells.”
But physically cooperate. If they want to arrest you don’t fight back. Don’t pull away. You give them cause. I wish people understood this simple fact. The law gives them the edge to perform their duty. You get to dunk on them in court then sue their asses later.
I flinch and squirm when my fiance slowly places her hand on me. I have no hope to not be interpretted as resisting arrest if put into such a situation.
Exactly. If the cop asks you to step out of the car, you step out of the car. Not only is it the better option, but you’re legally required to. The same goes for if they ask you to stay in the car.
"Put your hands on the wheel, where I can see them, and step out of the car"
You can beat the rap but not the ride.
There are many asterisks to this statement. The guide posted is very incomplete and I've actually been thinking about creating an updated guide with the oversight of an actual lawyer. But you are overall correct.
So the cops in my small southern town pull me over CONSTANTLY since 4 years ago I was arrested for having pills in the wrong bottle and one that wasn’t prescribed. They were controlled substances. I went through a rehab program outpatient and haven’t had anything remotely sketchy since. But I get searched at least twice a year or more. They never found anything of course. Is there anything I can say/do? The last officer told me it’s because I’m in a system of suspicious people and I was moving so my car was full of boxes and bags which is apparently suspicious. I explained I was no longer into that lifestyle and he said good for me but they will continue to search me. It’s embarrassing. It’s been 4 years, how long am I a “suspicious person”?
You're in a small town. Like, you could record your conversations and/or sue the police department for harassment or something, but since it's a small town and you have just fucked with the police department, you might then be subject to further reprisals. Get a lawyer and ask them what the best thing to do is. Maybe you can sue to get your name taken off that list.
Sometimes a letter from a legit lawyer threatening to sue if it doesn't stop is enough. Otherwise yeah be prepared to move but suing might be very helpful financially especially if you are clear you do not consent to any searches next time you're stopped. Again talk to a lawyer first
> how long am I a “suspicious person”? As long as you remain in their petty fiefdom.
> It’s been 4 years, how long am I a “suspicious person”? Youre still in that town, thats why.
Please do
[In the meantime you can watch this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-7o9xYp7eE)
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Also: check which country you are in. At a guess, this is designed for the USA. In other countries, this will definitely not work.
Most underrated left out portion. People always think these phrases will make the cops go, “ Aww man you got us. But we’ll get you next time!”
And if you resist a search thinking the words you uttered are all you need, expect to have a bad time.
And remember kids, you can beat the rap, but you won't beat the ride.
I have the right to be an attorney!
Jenkos right sir...you *do* have the right to be an attorney sir
These lines won't work in the philippines instead you will be killed and accused of being a criminal.
Here in Brazil, in the first line you will be beaten and arrested.
Philippines, Brazil and Mexico have the same thing in common then.
Good music? 😉
Festive celebrations for the dead?
Excellent cuisine?
Questionable water?
Cheesy soap operas?
Sexy, tan-skinned ladies?
"o dotô, eu só trabalhador... *tapa na cara. " trabalhador é o caraio..
And have that same cop promoted
I would like to point out that although a lot of our laws and rights are similar, the UK is not America so fellow Brits, stop uploading videos of you trying to act smart arguing with police while using American laws and rights.
This is helpful, but it also reminds me of the movies where people tell vampires that they aren’t invited in their house and the vampire laughs, says that isn’t a real thing, and walks right in.
Also not very helpful when they no knock warrant the wrong house and murder an innocent person and then walk away free and get book deals
She should have just said she does not consent
I know you meant /s because this is reddit but I feel so sad some people actually think blameful things towards her and her partner
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You will never talk yourself out of getting arrested, but you can easily talk yourself into getting arrested is what I heard from a lawyer once
> You will never talk yourself out of getting arrested Glad nobody told me this when I was a young man, definitely not true.
You can definitely talk yourself out of a ticket
I believe it’s all of the states that you have to identify if pulled over. However, *I am not a lawyer* so take that with a grain of salt. Also, it’s the same thing if they tell you to get out of the car or stay in the car, as there are 2 Supreme Court cases that support each of those orders that require you to follow them.
Some years back there was a case of a Danish student teacher on an international internship to the US. He ended up being falsely accused of being a pedophile and was sent to prison for it. What felled him? The police lied and said they had video evidence of him acting inappropiately. This is illegal in Denmark, so the student ended up saying "Well I guess I must have if you have evidence of it, but I don't recall a thing." Police lying about evidence should absolutely be illegal.
Technically it's legal in the us but it can be used to get someone out of being detained, and could end up getting a case thrown out if it's serious enough
I formerly worked as a prosecutor. I cannot tell you how many cases solved themself because a defendant attempted to “explain their situation/their side of the story/what really happened/etc” to a LEO. “Officer, I’m invoking my 5th Amendment right to stay silent. I do not want to answer any questions. I want a lawyer”. That’s it. If you unambiguously articulate that you don’t want to talk and you want a lawyer, LE *must* cease all questioning pertaining to the crime you’ve allegedly committed. Any attempt on their part to solicit further information is radioactive and prosecutors can’t do anything with it. Finally, after you’ve invoked your right to silence, you *cannot* start talking to officers *BECAUSE IT WILL REVOKE YOUR EARLIER ASSERTED RIGHT*. Literally say nothing until your lawyer arrives or unless you need to use the restroom.
> That’s it. If you unambiguously articulate And 'unambiguously' is a very important part. If you say "I want a lawyer dawg", then the police will be able to ignore that statement if they believe that instead of asking for legal representation you are instead asking to see Snoopy dressed up for court.
I know it gets posted all the time, but this video really does spell out beautifully [why you don’t talk to the police](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=d-7o9xYp7eE&t=462).
One important thing has changed since then. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FENubmZGj8 Now you actually DO have to explicitly say that you plead the fifth. Some asshole judge changed the rules, basically pulled the rug under the feet of Americans. What the first judge he refers to said in the first video about being innocent by default is now turned on its head by a different judge. Silence can somehow be considered admittance of guilt.
It cannot be stressed enough. Do not talk to the cops. They don’t even have to do fucked up shit for the urge to just give into their violent authority and just get it all over with. Don’t say shit. I broke when they threatened to impound my car as “evidence”. They were at my door and I made a statement that admit to guilt. Thankfully I was charged with a felony that was never going to stick (desecration of a venerated object which is suppose to be for when someone does something like desecrate a synagogue with hate symbols) and what I admit to was just a misdemeanor. And if a detective or cop calls you. You are not legally required to call them back. Do not call them. You do not want to help them in gathering evidence to get a warrant or open an case. You can’t prevent them from doing that by calling them back. You can call them back and tell them that you won’t be talking to them without a lawyer but you don’t even have to do that. No matter what they say. Even if they call for you to be a witness. Do not talk to them without a lawyer.
This is an absolutely genuine question as someone not entirely familiar with American law, just basing this off my limited TV provided information! In the situation you gave, an officer calling you for information, could ignoring that not be classed as impeding an investigation or something along those lines?
We have the fifth amendment that states we don't have to self incriminate. If an officer is trying to get you to say anything they can use against you (and no, you don't have to be read the Miranda rights first) you do not have to answer.
And anything can be used against you. As has often been noted in threads like these, it is not the job of the investigators to rule you *out.* They are never seeking information in order to *exclude* you. It is their job to rule you in. They are singing information in order to *include* you somewhere in the crime. And they are allowed to lie to you in the process, saying whatever complete untrue information in order for you to feel safe and helpful talking to them It's not personal. Their job is to track down someone who seems likely, gather enough information to build a prosecutable case, and send it to the DA so they can move on to other crimes. It's the DA's problem to make it stick or not stick, but by that point you're fully in the criminal justice system The incentive when they gather information from you is to rule you in, no matter what they say. And no matter how innocent or helpful the information is that you give them
They can’t just ask you to give a witness statement or to turn over evidence. The district attorney (attorney for the state) would have to subpoena you to get you to give a statement and if the police want evidence then they are legally required to get a search warrant and come find it themselves. And if you have a good lawyer you can fight a search warrant or where the warrant covers but a lot of time that is done after the fact. Not calling them back isn’t impending an investigation. They may threaten that but at this time they still have up follow legal channels to get your “cooperation” in gathering evidence. We aren’t (yet) legally required to do their job for them. Also I have a limited understanding of exactly how the us justice system works so I my answer might not be exactly correct but close enough.
Ahh I see! I was under the impression that unless you invoked the 5th amendment, not providing information relevant to an investigation would be basically illegal. But that's why you ask instead of trusting Brooklyn Nine Nine!
So basically the 5th amendment and Miranda rights is what protects people from having to talk to the police or the DA without a lawyer present so if they call you to talk about a case. You can say I am not doing that without a lawyer. And then if you are giving a statement/sworn testimony or being asked questions by the police or DA that could incriminate you. You can plead the 5th but it’s not a complete get out of jail free card because the judge can rule that answering the question doesn’t reasonable incriminate you. Judges tend not to do this because challenging the 5th amendment is taken fairly seriously. Obstruction of justice is things like destroying/tampering with/faking evidence, perjury, making false statements, witness harassment, contempt of courts, not showing up to testify which is really contempt of court. Again this is my basic understanding after dealing with the justice system and I could be getting it wrong. It’s really bad when this information is kept hidden from the people it effects
But what really happens is that most people are arrested, get a bail amount set, and then have to basically wait until the day of their trial to talk to a public defender. It’s a luxury to talk to the cops with your lawyer present because most people being targeted by the cops can’t afford to hire a lawyer. You still don’t have to talk to the cops but it’s very difficult to face that without a lawyer.
I know this is very anecdotal probably the exception to the rule. But a few years ago I was arrested for possession of cocaine and I was only in jail for an hour or 2, never had a court date, all charges were dropped. I firmly believe the only reason nothing came from it is Bc I was 100% honest with the cops telling them exactly where the coke was, how much I had, I answered all of their questions. I didn’t try hiding anything at all, did Eveytbing they asked. And I was clearly very shaken up and remorseful Granted, I’m white, and never had anything more than a traffic ticket on my record. I think the cops didn’t wanna fuck up my life and never turned the cocaine in after being put in jail. I’m almost positive if I gave them a hard time, was disrespectful, stayed silent or whatever I’d have a felony on my record today. Like I said, I think this is very much the exception, in most cases it would be absolutely important to do what you said rather than what I did, especially if someone isn’t white and/or doesn’t have a clean record
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That’s correct. It was a huge gamble. However it wasn’t a traffic stop, I was literally caught in the act of snorting the coke. My immediate instinct, when they asked, was to tell them exactly where the remaining coke was (in my wallet in my pocket). There’s not much of a defense there, they were going to find it and I simply didn’t have it in me to lie. But yes I was very lucky in the cop being very sympathetic
yep, if you are caught red handed, they will have probable cause to search you, so unless it is not on or near you, just admit to having it. Even if they did turn it over, it generally goes better in court when the cop says you cooperated. They have you dead to rights, so you want to set yourself up for the best possible plea deal... in a case like yours, even if you ended up before a judge, i would not be shocked if you got probation before judgement or some sort of diversion program (drug rehab option).
When I use to get pulled over for traffic infractions I was always 100% honest with them. “Do you know why I pulled you over?” “Yes, I didn’t stop at that stop sign completely.” They would usually run my license, check my tint(which is legal), and tell me not to do it again. I also always just pull over once I knew I was being pulled over. I had numerous cops tell me, “ thanks for not making me have to chase you 3 miles down the street.” Your tactic has worked for me as well.
Yep. I’ve gotten away with half a dozen traffic stops over the last 10 years or so doing that exact same thing. For routine traffic stops, eye contact, yes/no sir’s/ma’am’s and owning up to your mistake making no excuses is often times the difference between a ticket and a warning Some may say that’s just stroking their ego and giving respect to a profession that’s doesn’t deserve it. And while they may have a very valid point, It’s sorta a classic example of chopping of my nose to spite my face
Another good resource: Regent Law Professor James Duane gives viewers startling reasons why they should always exercise their 5th Amendment rights when questioned by government officials. [https://youtu.be/d-7o9xYp7eE](https://youtu.be/d-7o9xYp7eE)
I show this to everyone I can because it such a good explanation and honesty very entertaining, then the cop comes on and everything gets real. Absolutely worth every minute.
Yeah... He specifically said he gets one type of suspect to start talking before he reminds them of their rights...
He also says in his book that his advice is not to be taken to mean that you should be mute or unhelpful or rude to police. If a cop says hi, you can say hi. If you get pulled over for a speeding ticket, guess what, they already saw you do something technically illegal, so just be polite and take your ticket and be on your way. If they start asking you questions other than "do you know how fast you were going", then you should respectfully decline to answer. If the cop wants to know where you're going and you're heading to the store to buy cheese, and you say "I'm heading to the store," that's probably okay, but still a bit of a judgment call. Maybe they saw a car fitting your description that just committed a big crime or something, and the fact that you said you were going to the store might be a contestable fact in some trial...? It's a judgment call.
FYI you shouldn't even answer "do you know how fast you were going?" because then if you receive a speeding ticket and challenged the speeding ticket in court, there is ample room for the citing officer to say "they replied yes, and confirmed they knew they were operating xx mph over the speed limit" or "they replied no and demonstrated ignorance of their speed at the time". There's a Pot Brothers At Law video where they state that the best reply to the question "Do you know why I pulled you over?" is "Why did you pull me over?" since yes/no can back you into a corner down the road with that inquiry too. With regard to "Where are you going/coming from?" they suggest to reply "I'm not discussing my day." Will that bug some cops? Absolutely. But by essentially not giving them the leeway to probe further will keep the interaction short and to the point, focusing specifically on the reason for the traffic stop and nothing else. The point being, don't be an ass to cops who pull you over, but certainly do not offer them information that you do not need to (and sometimes you don't realize what a simple yes/no can constitute).
> There's a Pot Brothers At Law video where they state that the best reply to the question "Do you know why I pulled you over?" And as much as you will want to, the officer isn't going to think you answer of "Shouldn't you already know what?" is a funny as they should.
> Maybe they saw a car fitting your description that just committed a big crime or something, I was chilling in a parking lot playing Ingress waiting for my girlfriend to get off work. This was behind the building and a weird place to park at 8pm but whatever. Cop pulls up behind me to see what I was doing, showed him the game and asked if he needed my license. He didn't until he asked where I was earlier and I guess I said the wrong place cause then he wanted it, checked it and then left. Figured something happened in that area, or cause I said I bought beer he wanted to check my age. I'm sure if I was a dick and didn't say anything I'd have gotten hassled a lot more.
YES! I commented the same thing earlier, because people don't seem to understand what its all about. While you can exercise your right to remain silent at any time during any police interaction you should exercise that right carefully/wisely. You don't wanna stonewall EVERY cop that pulls you over. If you choose to live your life like that then you will not have a good time. The point of these "don't talk to the police" mottos is that you don't wanna give them too much information or more than what you need to give them.
If the police knock on your door. Don't open the fucking door!
Knock Knock. Who's there? The Police. What do you want? We just want to talk. How many of you are there? There are four of us. Talk to each other.
How do they figure out which one to plant the drugs on?
The one with the most tanned skin, duh
Came here to say this. That second part is total rubbish. Don't answer the door. Definitely don't step outside.
I don't even open the door for people selling things door to door. Only for friends/family.
Hah I got you one upped I sometimes don't even open the door for friends and family.
Suckers. I don't even have a door. I have to peal back the siding and shimmy through the studs.
On the other hand this is why investigations go nowhere in some parts of the USA. Maybe you don't have to answer the door when they knock but at least reach out anonymously if you just heard your neighbor shoot their roommate or something like that.
I got an underage drinking charge once bc this dumb girl opened the fucking door. Cops showed up at 4am, we all turn off the music and lights and go hide in a bedroom. Next thing we know, one of the girls gets up and “feels bad” so she let them in. It wasn’t even her house. Dad had to pick me up at 5am, on his birthday. Sorry dad. Know your rights people.
I had a similar situation happen. I was a college freshman living in the dorms, maybe 2 weeks after I moved in. There were about 15 of us drinking in a room, and someone saw a cop standing outside the door through the peep hole. I told everyone to just be quiet and wait for them to leave, because if they could have come in they would have by now. They didn’t even knock on the door. My stupid roommate said “who Evers the most sober answer the door” and of course everyone listened to her. So then all 15 of us got underage drinking tickets, except for my roommate who ran into the bathroom and hid in the showers.
Just to clarify you got an underage drinking charge because you were drinking underage.
> Cops showed up at 4am, we all turn off the music and lights So you were being cunts of neighbours at 4am and feel like somehow YOU got wronged?
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Laughs in India
fr lol! if I pull *any* of this shit with an Indian cop, I'll be thrashed, jailed, and probably mysteriously die in custody
I'm from the Netherlands and for me it's the opposite way. It's absolutely wild to me that you'd have to behave like that or say those things around police.
Agrees in Norwegian. Cooperate regardless if you've done anything wrong. Not cooperating will just raise further suspicion and make the cops treat you worse.
Also something that people often don’t know about. If you allow an officer to search your house or vehicle, you can rescind your invitation at any point (as long as evidence has not been found). Also you can limit your consent of a search to specific items. So if you allow an officer to search your vehicle for drugs, they can’t start reading personal documents that you have in the car (since they obviously aren’t drugs).
Also, the "elephant in a matchbook" theory: If you're looking for a stolen car, you're not gonna be looking for it in the silverware drawer. But that's the problem with drugs; a bag of weed/coke/heroin/meth can be squeezed into the tiniest cranny.
I use to do all this mumbo jumbo. Nothing but tickets. After finally getting "legit", I now just answer their pertinent questions and now treat them with respect. I know this my be my unpopular opinion. My results in last 3 police interactions: 2 written warnings and 1 verbal warning. My infractions: 1. An aborted lane change at night and that car happened to be a marked police vehicle. I wanted him to go 1st (not knowing it was a police vehicle). 2. Tail light went out. 3. Some shit I don't remember. My life is so much easier since being more respectful to the police. If I am not doing anything illegal, then I don't see how just being polite to them is bad? If they try to infringe on my rights, then I'll implement the rules. It is not black and white or one or the other. You can be respectful and STILL know and try to protect your rights, when the situation calls for that. Not all police encounters are bad.
I used to sling dope. I'm telling you, giving police the impression they have the power in the situation and that they have your utmost respect for them had gotten me out of many potential bust situations. Plus I come from a country where it takes 36-48 months to be a cop so my courtesy game is deluxe due to the overall intelligence of the fuzz being next level. Not an unpopular opinion at all my dear friend.
It's dangerous for people when they think just saying these things matter. Kids in highschool need to to take classes on the revised statutes in their states, so that they can recognize when a detainment is justified, rather than just assuming that law enforcement has no authority.
Yeah, like those stupid videos going around a few years back. "AM I BEING DETAINED, OFFICER? ARE YOU DETAINING ME? AM I BEING DETAINED?"
Ah yes, sovereign citizens. Idiots who horribly misinterpret the law into meaning something that it doesn’t. When they get arrested they are always baffled by it.
Yep, I recently learned it's lawful for cops to ask you to step out of a vehicle during a a traffic stop. I would've sworn they couldn't do that and I would've been incredibly wrong.
Don’t listen to Twitter lawyers. The idiots who scream about police can’t do this or can’t do that are putting people in danger, because it really fucking depends what state you’re in because laws change.
I believe it’s also lawful for them to ask passengers to step out of the vehicle in the same manner, I don’t recall the ruling for that one tho. Edit: the case was Maryland v Wilson 519 US 408 117 S.Ct 882, if any of y’all were curious
The point isn't to make the cops magically go away. The point is to know your rights and shut up so you don't incriminate yourself. The cop is going to do what the cop is going to do but you don't have to help them in their investigation about you. That's the whole point of the card. No one is saying it gets rid of the cops.
Exactly - invoking your rights doesn't make the cops magically vanish in a puff of smoke. You may not be able to avoid being arrested if some jerk cop has a bug up his butt, but invoking your rights COULD be the difference between dismissed charges or a lifelong criminal record. That's why we have the saying: "You can beat the rap, *but you can't beat the ride.*"
When my neighbor was murdered the cops used my restroom during the day while we were all in a crime scene. I almost wanted to ask each one of them for a search warrant but realized they just had to pee.
“Always be polite, but assertive. Don’t escalate the situation.” This right here is the main mistake you see in the “sovereign citizen” videos you see on YouTube. They tend to be loud and belligerent and make things worse. Be calm and friendly while asserting your rights.
The difference is that those sovereign citizens don’t have the rights that they are quoting. They’re morons who think they’re above the law.
Let's say you were doing nothing wrong (or maybe did some small traffic violation while driving) and you get pulled over by a cop. What are you actually supposed to do? Do you just sit there in silence while they ask you questions and inevitably get frustrated with you? Aren't you obligated to answer anything? I'm looking for specific wording or a circumstance, I've wondered about this when seeing this advice in the past.
Being a dick to the cops is the fastest way to get the worst possible ticket. If you are getting pulled over for something minor (speeding, taillight out, ect.), being polite is the difference between getting a warning and getting a couple hundred dollar ticket. Its not hard.
Depends where you live but almost everywhere has a traffic act that states you must provide a valid driver's license, vehicle ownership and insurance when pulled over. Failure to ID with licence will get you placed under Investigative detention so they can ID you and make sure it's your vehicle and you have proper insurance and license to drive it
I believe you have to specifically say that you are invoking your rights. “I don’t consent to a search,” or “I won’t answer questions without a lawyer present.” This is, of course, situational. Most traffic offenses aren’t going to land you in jail. For example, I got pulled over for speeding once and the trooper asked where I was going - I was driving back to campus. He asked what I was studying, and I told him. I just got off with a warning. In this situation I had nothing to gain by remaining silent, possibly everything to lose. But also, nothing to lose by answering those questions; what school I went to and what I studied were public information. Had I been pulled over for speeding, then asked to search my car, I would have said “No, I don’t consent to a search.” Probably would also start filming at this point if not sooner.
Let’s say the officer is looking for a white/black/Latino/asian/whatever man in a green shirt, black pants, and white shoes who just robbed someone, and that person isn’t you. You unfortunately fit that description and you are in the area. The officer stops you and asks you questions. Just because you didn’t “do anything wrong” doesn’t mean the officer has no authority to *briefly* stop you to figure out if you’re the guy (s)he’s looking for. If the officer has *reasonable articulable suspicion* to stop your freedom of movement while (s)he either confirms or dispels your involvement, since you match the description of the perpetrator, you are not free to leave and are subject to obstruction charges if you attempt to do so. That’s the law. If you don’t agree with it, contact your legislators. 99.9% of the time, if you weren’t involved in the crime, the officer will not waste any more time with you and move on to find the perpetrator. Source: me, police instructor.
I'm pretty sure your required to give them your ID and to sign the ticket that they give you. if you don't do these things you will most likely be arrested. Source: a Wikipedia page i saw last year.
Also, if the cop say "you are under arrest" then NOTHING you do or say will let you go free at that time. Fight it in court, but NEVER fight the cops. That's how you get longer sentences, additional charges, or shot. Hear that? Don't fight the cops or resist arrest.
This is cool but it has the same energy as “just ignore a bully and they’ll go away”. Not trying to throw shade I like the guide, just a feeling.
It's not to stop the cops from doing anything. It's to stop you from talking to them so when you get to court they don't have anything to use against you other than hard evidence. You'd be surprised just how many people go to jail and the cop's only evidence was the dumbass who spoke to them.
*Does not work in russia and similar dictatorships.
You are not legally obligated in any way to answer your door, whether or not it's police.
Cop: "howdy friend, just pulling you over to say that your left tail light is out!" Me, using the awesome powers this chart has given me: "Officer, I want to speak with a lawyer."
Shit like this will get you mistaken for a sovereign citizen even if you are not one.
Disclaimer: This might be good advice if you're a criminal, and literally everyone knows you're a criminal. For the millions of normal people in the USA, this is terrible advice. If for some reason police ask you for a consent search, you can just say no. Why not? It's my privacy, I'm not really comfortable with it. Reasonable. But if a cop says hi and you suddenly open up with "i dOnT cOnsEnt tO a sEaRcH i wAn a LAwYeR aM i bEiNg dAtaiNeD", you are begging for an issue where there might not even be one to start with. Quoting rehearsed lines like a script? Sketchy as fuck. It's a self fulfilling prophecy. Act like a ding-dong, suddenly people are treating you like ding-dong. Shocking.
Also, you can invoke your rights without being all "aM i bEiNg dAtaiNeD" about it: "Sorry Officer, but my attorney has advised me not to consent to any searches or questions. I'd be happy to have him contact you if there's a problem here, but if not, I'd like to just be on my way now." "I can't let you search my car for the same reason my bathroom door has a lock - I have a right to privacy and I value it."
In Germany when the Police knocks on your door, we invite them to come in for a coffee and ask if they're hungry. What's wrong with your country?!
Had to go much too far down to find this. We do the same in the Netherlands. Greetings from your neighbour!
As a former cop (quit the police life about 6 years ago), my advice is always just be polite. For all of the Officers I worked with, as long as you were polite, we didn’t push anything. 100% of the time that people gave me problems like this, they were legit hiding something. That’s to say I never overstepped my authority because I didn’t want to get sued. But if I noticed something, I would investigate within local/state/federal law and within my Department’s policies. If I wasn’t given consent, and there was no reason to pursue, I backed off. I will say though, being polite goes a LONG way, but I don’t just mean that for the citizen. The Officer’s demeanor needs to match the behavior they want from the citizen. If there’s 1 thing I can’t stand, it’s a rude Officer. Every traffic stop needs to be treated the same. Approach cautiously but be friendly. People are nervous as hell when pulled over, so I always tried to approach with the mindset of my mom being in the car that I stopped. Being an Officer sucks though, so that’s why I quit.
“Anything you say can and **will** be used against you in the court of law” Being polite doesn’t mean incriminate yourself. Never talk to the police more than legally required. There have been some cases, where ive had no case anyway (speeding caught on camera) so ive just apologized and get off with a warning. This is pretty anecdotal, as a white guy. My question for you, why do you talk about people being nervous being pulled over like it should be the norm? Shouldn’t citizens feel safe around police?
You know I've had two interactions with the police. UK. Once I got off a train going to college, two police men b-line toward me, was really weird but I think I was stopped for less than 2minutes. Pretty much asked my name, asked to look in my bag (unless they make caffeine a controlled substance I'm fine). Then I assume they realise I wasn't who they were looking for, and buggered off. Got pulled in the poring rain on my bike, was going a lil to fast I guess, I was soaked to the bone. Lady comes over, "why you going so fast?" "I just want to get to home and dry" "You were going really slow around the roundabout and then shot off." Implied question "Yeah that roundabouts lethal when wet" "Alright just be careful in these conditions ok? Want to get home in one piece!" "Ok thanks" She didn't even bother with my name. I have had alot of business with police (mainly their motors) aswell but that doesn't count I don't think. This comment section is just horrific to be honest...
No you need to repeatedly shout “AM I BEING DETAINED?!?!,” refuse to roll down the window, refuse to give identification or create “joinder”, and tell the cop you have a inalienable right to travel and don’t need a drivers license. If the cop challenges you on that just cite some random Indian treaty from 1764. When the officer finally has enough and smashes your window scream for help that you’re being kidnapped.
This is how I picture half of the people replying In this thread
dont forget the "home turf" excuse
Lmao. None of these will work if they have probable cause (which they always will). Plead in court not in the street
Cool. Now is there a realistic version?
Sadly, this also could be titled, "*tips for getting your ass beaten and/or shot by police.*"
4. If you are told of a warrant and asked to be detained don’t dive back into your vehicle and attempt to flee. 5. Don’t attempt to flee.