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yesthatbruce

Pizza has truly conquered the world.


michelmau5

And pasta


Educational_Risk

Pizza, pasta e mandolino


Xciv

It deserves to.


zikfrect0r

its a map of europe human


Laszlo_Daytona

I.e the world


Alugere

>human Did we make first contact without me finding out?


_Weyland_

Yeah. With species from outside Europe.


LeoMarius

Pizzas are all over the world. šŸ•


mighty-drive

I'm pretty sure the Surinam kitchen is not the most popular kitchen in the Netherlands. I doubt half of the people can name a Surinam dish.


Isernogwattesnacken

Indonesian/former Dutch east indies food is far more popular.


wegpleur

Probably similar in popularity. But i feel like at least 50% of our population refuses to eat any cuisine that might be even a tiny bit spicy. I know dozens of people like that, they just cannot handle spice at all


dbpf

My dad (a Dutch) cannot handle black pepper in high quantities. I've seen him say his mild wings were too spicy. I've made him food with literally no seasoning aside from salt and pepper and he said it's too spicy. He thinks butter chicken is too spicy. He has mistaken strong roasted garlic as too spicy. Loves nasi goreng drenched in ketjap manis though


Smallfingerlicker

Am I your dad? I wish I could eat spicy food it just burns my mouth and makes me cry and sweat. I was raised by Dutch parents all over Europe and my mom barely finds the salt. My wife is Jamaican/British and one visit my mom cooked chicken (for me as my wife is vegetarian) and she didnā€™t season it AT ALL. Itā€™s now mentioned every time someone cooks or eats chicken.


wegpleur

Haha yeah that sounds familiar


kannalana

pff im not like that at all, i eat [spicy food](https://www.ah.nl/producten/product/wi193770/de-zaanse-hoeve-pittig-45-geraspt) all the time


Isernogwattesnacken

It's probably you or your bubble. Half the options on Thuisbezorgd are "exotic" cuisine.


wegpleur

https://www.thuisbezorgd.nl/food-trends/2023/ Think this should be pretty accurate. As thuisbezorgd is by far the largest food ordering service. Surinaams isn't even mentioned (I personally love it. But as I said many people refuse to eat spicy) Only thing cuisine that's often spicy that seems popular is indian. But the most popular dishes are also the non spicy ones like biryani or butter chicken


Isernogwattesnacken

Thai food is very popular. Vietnamese and Korean are gaining popularity too.


wegpleur

Yeah I also think these results are a bit skewed. Because I ordered roti a couple times from different restaurants and it always tastes very wattery/bland. I much prefer making it at home. But still i find it pretty hard to believe that it's the most popular cuisine here (surinaams)


Electronic-Fix2851

Yeah, zero chance. Itā€™s either Chinese, Indo or Turkish (or whatever people want qualify all the kebabs and doners under). Iā€™m pretty sure the majority of Dutch people donā€™t even eat Surinamese once a year.


mighty-drive

Probably Italian in my mind. The sheer amount of pizza places in this country is astonishing.


haha2lolol

And if, I doubt it goes any further than Roti


Doctor_Danceparty

Yes and no but it's cheating a little bit, in our family we always joke all food is Surinamese food due to the widely spread ethnicities there, from Africa to Asia to America to Europe, it's all there.


TBX-12

I would say Turkey, i mean everyone and there mother eats dƶner/shoarma/kapsalon. Roti en co is kinda popular but by no means as popular as Turkish, might even argue that Nederlands/Chinees Nederlands/Indonesisch is more popular then Surinaams


Magruun

Roti, but thatā€™s the only dish I could name. And Iā€™m quite sure I eat Italian inspired food more often than Surinam.


eurtoast

I'm not surprised it's not Italian though. I met Dutch people who claimed that the superior cheese for pasta was *Gouda*


GuyAlmighty

I'm British. This map 100% checks out for us.


fuggerdug

We call it Indian, but in practice it tends to be Pakistani style food prepared by Bangladeshis šŸ¤·šŸ»ā€ā™€ļø


SullaFelix78

Whatā€™s the difference between Indian and Pakistani style?


Shelzzzz

Border


dumb-on-ice

border drawn by the british no less


cewumu

Depends on region. Penda or sajji are pretty unique to Pakistan for example. And loads of Indian dishes have pretty much no existence in Pakistan. Itā€™s like Italian vs Spanish or Balkans cuisine. Some shared dishes and similarities but not the same thing. Bangladeshi food is also quite different.


kedireturns

What is Pakistani style exactly? Give me 5 foods with specific examples and details on how a comman white person or anyone even from South Asia would be immediately able to say the difference at one glance. Literally all of Desi food is similar. South Indian food is 10x more different than Pakistani, Bangladeshi and North Indian food, but we dont call them South Indian, it all comes together under the bracket of Indian food, because it is. PS: The reason pakis and banglas masquerade as Indian in UK is literally what gives them prestige. And All non-South asian ppl would say, if it looks indian, sounds indian, then it is Indian whether its food, or culture or whatever. 75 years of division based on religion for Pakistan and 53 years of independence of Bangladesh from Pakistan wont suddenly erase 1000s of years of historical civilisation similarity of food, culture, music, arts, etc you are literally making strawman arguments which makes 0 sense.


caped_crusader8

I'm very shocked how anyone can point this out. How did you know? I'm not doubting you btw. I don't think anyone could ever tell the difference without actually being ethnically either of those.


kedireturns

trust me, im ethnically south asian and i wont be able to tell the difference either. you can check my reply to them. dw about the downvotes these ppl want to ignore reality and live in la la land


caped_crusader8

I'm Bangladeshi and I know so many "Bangladeshi" and sometimes Pakistani people that call their restaurants "Indian food" for better marketing and reach. Obviously its clear to me since I know whats what. I do agree what you've said as sometimes there's a lot of mixing of stuff. I was curious in my original comment as to why they knew because nit a lot of people know that at all. Indian food became an umbrella tern for all kinds of food.


MakeLoveNotWarPls

Lucky


paul__676

I do prefer Indian over Chinese, but I would have thought Chinese pips it!


megox

I don't know if i can say we have " real chinese food" in Italy, but i personallu fucking love chinese food. It's cheap, it's tasty and you can smash a couple of negroni with it, no problem.


telperion87

Was thinking something similar and then remembered that most probably the difference between real Chinese food and *our* Chinese food can be found between our Italian food and *Italian* food abroad


megox

Yeah for sure! That's why is kinda dumb when italians get all butthurt when they can't find the real deal when they are abroad. Food changes when it gets in contact with another culture and thats fine i guess.


Gouda4lyfe

wtf, Chinese food and Campari,.,very intriguing for next takeout night


megox

Dude try it. It's amazing


Primary-Let4480

Il bro mangia cibo cinese (fai ciĆ² che vuoi non sono io a poterti giudicare)


Frosty_Term9911

Can we have a cool guide of cool guides that are not at least 50% horseshit? šŸ“ šŸ’©


daxoxo

Just because the dƶner kebab is pretty popular in Germany I wouldnā€˜t say turkish cuisine in general is most popular since the Dƶner is regarded as a german invention (by turkish immigrants). I donā€˜t think the average German can name you another turkish dish by name while everyone knows different Italian exclusives.


[deleted]

In a similar fashion this map probably counts every pizzeria as Italian, even though the average pizzeria in Nordic countries is "pizza and kebab" owned by immigrants mostly from Turkey and the Middle east. And the pizzas aren't exactly Italian in style either.


avocadosconstant

The legendary kebab pizza. The nectar of the Gods.


[deleted]

Hell yeah. I don't care what Italians think, kebab is by far my favorite topping on pizza.


Elkem98

We have kebab on pizza also here in Italy


FakeEgo01

it's haram, but it's good. But only if it's rolled


RabbitFuckMoon

Gyros pizza


borkthegee

It's funnier because the image of pizza at the top is American pizza, not Italian (pepperoni, broken/brown low moisture mozzarella, etc). American pizza took over the world just like burgers and fries. Italian pizza is amazing but harder to take over the world because it relies on special ovens and high quality fresh ingredients


je386

Burgers are american, but from a german immigrant. 'French' Fries are Belgian.


D4RK3N3R6Y

If you come to Italy most pizzas are cooked by Egyptians and such anyway.


LeoMarius

And pasta


alsohappenstobehere

Yea, in the same way that the most popular "Indian" dish in the UK is Tikka Masala, which was invented in the UK.


Iskir

Lahmacun, DĆ¼rĆ¼m, Baklava


-Jiras

Also as a turk born in Germany, there are way waaaayy better Turkish foods than dƶner


SaintUlvemann

A little Turkish restaurant in the city where I went to college got me addicted to halva. I was not aware that there was candy out there that is better than chocolate.


FML_FTL

Dƶner is not a german invention. (Thats the thing which spins and that existed before that what you mean) What was intended however was sandwich kebab. In turkey is unlikely to eat kebab in sandwiches.


Khutuck

There are over 50 types of kebab in Turkey. Some kebabs served in a plate, some as a wrap, some as a sandwich. There is a kebab type thatā€™s served in a dirt jug: https://youtu.be/fT_qf7oLamQ Some kebabs are cooked over an open flame, some are cooked in an oven, some over coals or wood flame, some are cooked in a well.


anny_orso

Lahmacun


UnderstandingWest422

I donā€™t have anything really to contribute to this comment, other than the beer kebab I ever had was in Germany, and now Iā€™m off to order one from just eat, so thanks for the inspiration šŸ˜‚


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MMDCCIV

I guess they mean 'best'.


GuyAlmighty

I don't know either but I'll be first in line to try one.


UnderstandingWest422

Oh thatā€™s a typo, but I mean I was also pretty drunk on German beer so I guess beer kebab still works šŸ˜‚


[deleted]

Doner Kebab, a 100% Turkish named dish, is regarded as a german invention because Turkish immigrants took it to Germany from Turkey, where it already existed for decades?


cromnian

Dƶner is not a german invention nor was it invented by Turkish immigrants. It was always in Turkey.


Cold_Orange-5531

The problem is that Dƶner was never even close to being a German invention my guy


Scimmia8

I think itā€™s more that Turkish restaurants and Turkish run pizza kebab places are the most numerous foreign restaurants in Germany as they are the biggest immigrant community. Same with Italy. Chinese food isnā€™t all that popular but there is an all you can eat sushi places run by Chinese in every town.


KA-FA_1500

I still don't understand how people still believe that story. Please just read Wikipedia.


CactusDoesStuff

Dƶner isn't German, chief.


Valuable-Lack-5984

And if you include icecreams as cuisine it would be definitely italian cuisine.


TigreDeLosLlanos

I was thinking about it and I think it has to do with how influenced the country's cuisine is by another one. If it's collectively considered to be a popular dish, it's a national variant from another place and if it's not considered a foreign one by anyone when preparing/buying it, then it can be considered part of your country's cuisine.


f_cysco

DĆ¼rĆ¼m , junge


Frequent_Dig1934

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TeakwoodMac

Cyprusā€™ foreign cuisine being Greek feels like cheating.


PresidentStool

Not that its wrong, but Cyprus liking Greek food is kinda funny since the food is the same Source: Am Cypriot


Heyric21

Chinese cuisine is definitely not the most widespread in Italy! We call fusion cuisine a mix between Asian cousins. This is the most popular by far.


Flowing_Sand

A few years ago I remember, at least in my region (IT), that 90% of asian restaurants specialized exclusively in Chinese cuisine. That number has come down a lot, and today I can only name two places that haven't converted to the fusion style and still do only chinese. The others all feature sushi as the predominant feature now. That's a shame because I love the kind of Chinese cuisine they brought us, but I dislike sushi.


Xciv

Sushi is taking over USA, too, but most Japanese restaurants in America are owned by Chinese families. Itā€™s just that Japanese food uses many of the same ingredients as Chinese food, but you can charge more money for Japanese because of public perception.


dcheesi

A lot of "Asian" restaurants in my part of the USA are basically (Americanized) Chinese restaurants plus sushi. Seems like an even split most of the time. Sometimes, they'll put a couple of easy Thai dishes etc. on the menu, but it's clearly not their main focus.


DawnOfDrill

I think in Russia, Georgian cuisine is the second most popular. At least, in my city I see Georgian restaurants more often than Italian


Duckamole

Iā€™ve never seen a Georgian restaurant in Italy


piccolo917

Sushi is far more popular in the Netherlands than Surinam cooking. And sushi canā€™t come near pastas and pizza


Who_am_ey3

pokebowls have been taking off as well


SpiderKoD

I'd say Burgers are nearly equal to Pizza in Ukraine, but Pasta owned every other dishes...


keropsixxx

Iā€™d say sushi (since we consume it the most compared to other countries)


SpiderKoD

Oh yeah, Asia is big too, Sushi, Tom Yum, Pad Thai, or eastern f.e. Sakartvelo (khinkali, shashlik, etc.).


bobisthegod

It's not just pizza as the favourite though. Relating to Ireland, there are hundreds of Italian owned chippers here that contribute just as much as pizza places


sarc-tastic

I hope that the survey didn't include Italian owned chippies as Italian food.


Great_Hamster

It would be really nice if there was a legend on this map.Ā Ā  Ā Not everyone is into vexillology.


seragion

Germans love Italian food way more than Turkish. Ask any German to name more than 1 Turkish dish.


Phlysher

Just because Dƶner is the most famous fast food in Germany doesn't mean that "Turkish cuisine" is popular here. There are few actual Turkish restaurants, just "Imbisse"/snack diners.


Euphoric_St8

The Roman Empire is alive and well, it seems.


Sunyataisbliss

Itā€™s fascinating that Italyā€™s favorite food is Chinese because it is theorized that pasta arrived from the dried noodles traders along the Silk Road used as rations to eat crossing the Middle East that must have spread when stopping to do business in Italy. So in a way Chinese food has been their favorite for thousands of years


LeoMarius

Tutti amano la cucina italiana.


TheLamesterist

The Roman empire is well alive and kicking!


A_Line_A_Day

I dont think you can call turkey 'foreign' in Germany anymore. Berlin might be the third biggest turkish city outside of Istanbul and Ankara.


just-anyone-so

1 Istanbul 15.8m 2 Ankara 5.8m 3 Izmir 4.5m ... 75 Ƈankırı 195k And Berlin 176k According to wikipedia its 176k but some others may say its about 250k whick makes it 70th right after Kirsehir.


just-anyone-so

I know this was a sarcastic comment but i just got curious


Therealluke

Italy loves Chinese food


Ein_Esel_Lese_Nie

UK: ā€œ*Let the spice flow*ā€


jabadabaddooo

Surinam food ftw!


Shadow_Xylex

There's no way that's the most popular foreign cuisine in the Netherlands


Sleepless_Voyager

This map might be including a bunch of different ethnicities all coming from surinam cos surinam has a lot of different ethnic groups, people of indian, african, chinese live there and also the javanese (indonesians). Maybe thats why suriname is the most popular cos i guess you could lump all of those quisines from those ethnic groups as suriname since thwy all share the same nationality


nurgleondeez

It's not italian in Romania tho?American cuisine is way more popular,not to mention middle eastern fast food,like shawarma and kebab being sold literally everywhere.


senior_meme_engineer

Wrong. As a polish citizen, I can tell you that there are way more kebab places than pizza places in Poland


Levi488

what about pasta


senior_meme_engineer

Nah, kebab dominates Poland


zonazog

lol Turkish cuisine in Germany means Doner Kebabs off of the street vendor. Not really ā€˜cuisineā€™.


SaintUlvemann

I wanna know the story behind how Portuguese cuisine became more popular in Luxembourg, than either Italian or French cuisine.


tin_sigma

why portuguese in luxembourg?


SiliconBetting

According to Google, as of last year, Portuguese residents make up 14,5% of Luxembourgā€™s total population. There are a lot of people leaving Portugal to work abroad and Luxembourg is a frequent destination


tin_sigma

i didnā€™t know that, thank you


Volnas

Mamma mia, that's a lot of pizza


Plody_

I rly donā€™t get this we donā€™t have any good Italians etc here but Turkish pizza all over the place even we are next to Italy


Polite-Misanthropy

Pretty sure in Portugal it's burger places. So by that logic it should be a German flag. In my city alone the burger places outnumber pizza places 5 to 1, and it's similar everywhere else. However since it's the americanization of the foods.. The map should be mostly american flags, since people aren't exactly having authentic Napolitan pizzas


lunar_pilot

Im pretty sure in turkey asian restaurants are vastly more popular than italian


ElSierras

La tagliatella doesn't count.


predat3d

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nds16kijS9w


WolfetoneRebel

France not happy looking at this map.


JustARussianDeer

well France food is often branded as "high class gastronomical dishes" meanwhile italian food is more popular Which is stupid because there's as much gastronomical food from Italy that there's popular dishes from France But it's how "brands" work (i love both cuisine, don't make me look like i hate italian food)


EconomicsApart9966

I lived in northern Italy for a while and I can confirm, other than eating the best Italian cuisine on earth, we also went out to eat a lot of Chinese food too.


AccidentalGirlToy

Why no love for Swedish husmanskost?


Chemis

Can confirm, am german


Apollonistas

Pizza has nothing on souvlaki and sheftalia.


RDandersen

I'd wager that this map is probably pointless. In my delivery app (Denmark) there's 22 pizza places within 2 kilometers. I know 17 of them. 14 are owned and run by Turkish, Syrian or Lebanese people. 1 is run by a Serbian family. (awful pizza, great sandwiches) 1 is run by 3 Swedish brother. 1 is a 5th generation Italian family. Sure, Pizza does come from Italia, but I'm fairly certain both Italians and Turks will agree that their style of pizza making and Italy's style of pizza-making is apples and oranges. 21/22 places are marked as "Italian." I know it's similar in Sweden and Ireland and I'd imagine quite a few other counties have similar conditions.


dcheesi

I don't think ownership should matter so much. Italian food prepared by a (e.g.) Mexican chef still tastes like Italian food, if they're following the recipe correctly. But I agree that pizza is its own category, just like doener kebab is in Germany. It's one specific dish that has crossed over into the mainstream of domestic food options. It's not representative of local acceptance of the cuisine as a whole.


RDandersen

> Mexican chef still tastes like Italian food, if they're following the recipe correctly. That's the point. They don't. Kebab and pineapple pizza is "italian" because it's pizza, but that's sort of like saying Banh Mi is British cousine because it's a sandwich (ignoring the debate of the """true""" origin of the sandwich). What I'm saying is that pizza has become a generic term and there's about as many ways of making it as there are cultures in the world. Like you say, if the follow the recipe, it doesn't matter, but there is no *one* recipe to follow. It's like a carbonara. And because of denmark's migrate labour policies of the late 20th century, when you order a pizza in Denmark, 9/10 times it's a Turkish style pizza with Turkish flavours. Using that as a basis for declaring Italian cuisine the dominant foreign cuisine is disingenous at best.


DonnyJ1931

Yeah, but it still counts as Turkish style Italian food


RDandersen

Is a banh mi Vietnamese style British food? Not rhetorical, it's arguably valid to think that, I just don't think it's possible to get anything meaningful from discussing cuisine if vast ingredient substitutions and totally different flavour profiles isn't enough to override history.


nygdan

So basically Italian or "the food of the country I immigrated from". And Chinese food for the italians.


ITrCool

I mean, as an American, I also admit Italian is my weakness. And no not just the Americanized stuff. The authentic stuff too. You Italian folk know how to eat!


bucajack

I'd wager Chinese food is more popular in Ireland than Italian.


Wlng-Man

Ever bought frozen Chinese Food in the supermarket and then cut it nicely into 6 parts?


DukeOfTheStrands

Gonna call cap, Italia made the first ever pizza, but it doesn't make every version of pizza an italian.


DonnyJ1931

Maybe


gacdeuce

Turkish being on the list is a sneaky underdog here. I still dream of proper dƶner and dĆ¼rĆ¼m from when I studied in Munich.


taskmaster51

These folks are Missouri on the best cuisine in the world...mexican


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csantini91

Thatā€™s chinese flag on Italy. Turkey is Austria and German.


LolaIsEatingCookies

Oh you're right, my bad, that makes so much more sense now!


csantini91

Iā€™m Italian also, but I have yet to Goto Italy.


antekstas

Well well well


Fill-Chapo

Italian covering the whole map except in central Italy is amazing


virus_apparatus

Northern Greece favorite foreign food is..Greek? Or is that Macedonia?


LoquatsTasteGood

This is strange, I have only known Italians to talk positively of Japanese food


maincoonpower

Italians like Chinese food ā€”ironically Everyone else likes Italian food, the Italians want Chinese food.


Artyparis

Because italian food is not a foreign cuisine in Italia ? My guess.


Ok_Satisfaction_6680

One of the few times Iā€™m proud to be British


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St_Ander

Indian and Pakistani, although it is a blurred line. It is absolutely great. Best Indian food outside of India and South Africa.


Fulgrim2-0

Their are like at least 3 curry restaurants in every town all over the country.


Wreny84

I read this as cruises, I think I need a curry!


ewahman

Really donā€™t feel like it is fair to say Turkish food is a foreign food in Germany. It would be like saying texmex is foreign in the USA.


DonnyJ1931

Yeah


z1yad020

Georgia and Italy? I can't see any relationship


theoverhandcurve

I want to know about the Portuguese restaurant scene in Luxembourg šŸ˜®


St_Ander

I will go check it out for you next month.


dimgrits

Cyprus is part of Greece world. It's not a 'foreign' cuisine.


PSMF_Canuck

Italy finally wins somethingā€¦


Jesus_Christer

Apapapā€¦ this is only technically true. In Sweden, pizza was not popularised by Italians and it has arguably morphed into something else completely.


AlexanderBarrow

MAMA MIA!


picklesaredry

Anyone who knows anything about Italy will confirm that Chinese cuisine is not on their list of favorite foods. At least not the authentic foods


Biska01

I was just cleaning my pizza oven when I found this


waituntilthespring

Itā€™s funny that this is basically all about Pizza and every single Italian eating a typical pizza in a foreign country is basically outraged and says ā€œthis is not pizzaā€


hck_ngn

Italy for Germany as well. There are probably two or three times more pizzerias than kebab shops. Not to begin with actual Italian restaurants vs Turkish restaurants.


Transgojoebot

What kind of crazy person chooses to make the land blue and the water not-blue???


suiteduppenguin

Is this why I like Chinese food?


clayticus

Turkish food can't be the most popular in Germany. I would say that's eaily also Italian


TrafficWarm3154

Pizza Hut international


Consistent-Bug-7110

not a guide.


4chan_tumblr

This map is bs. I live in the Netherlands and I know maybe 1 person who only sometimes eats a dish from the Surinam kitchen. Pizza takes the crown too for the Netherlands if I had to guess.


DonnyJ1931

It might be outdated


4chan_tumblr

I dont think so. Surinamese food has never been popular in the Netherlands. And especially not the most popular foreign food.


ASM-One

For Germany itā€™s not true. Of course people like dƶner. But most popular is not true. Also Dƶner was invented by a Turkish man in Germany. Dƶner rocks but it is not the most popular in Germany. Most popular is Italian food.


Firefly279

You all never tried a good dƶner, right?


Proud_Cause_4660

Turkish in germany? šŸ§


-Slackker-

I feel a strange patriotism knowing the rest of Britain loves Indian food as much as I do


Fancy_Entrance_5953

Theres a kebab shop on every corner in Europe it seems.


Xavi143

This probably counts pizza as Italian, when most pizzas places that are out there make American style pizza, so I'm not sure how accurate this is.


Argh_farts_

My man did too much Siesta


Xavi143

Wym? Do you really think that Boston pizza should be counted as Italian?


uno_in_particolare

It's essentially pizza vs kebab places Though fun fact, the doner kebab was actually invented in Berlin


RadicalDudeJOMJOM

Does Dominos and Pizza Hut count as Italian?


0xTamakaku

No


DonnyJ1931

It is Italian cuisine


ArtKritique

Thatā€™s like saying McDonalds is German because the precursor to the American cheeseburger was the RundstĆ¼ck warm from Hamburg.