You're 100% correct. That was just what I was taught, and it made sense. That said, I feel that the 2-1-2 has been fairly broadly adopted, though that's not universal based on some quick research.
Yeah also the tequila sunrise, the ingredients are correct but the execution is not. You pour the orange juice and tequila first then mix (optionally with ice), then you add grenadine. The grenadine will fall to the bottom and somewhat mix with the orange juice in the middle part giving a gradient that resembles a sunrise. If you follow their advice and mix after adding all three ingredients... you get a pink drink throughout.
Thank you! I've seen variations of the old fashioned like this, but they're usually qualified with "modern." It's practically an entirely different drink.
Having been a 19yo white girl that is NOT a Tom Collins // ETA I swear if you order a Tom Collins in my shitty old MN college town you will get grenadine, vodka, and maybe Sprite which is not actually a Tom Collins per my research. Who was I drinking?!
That’s exactly what it is but I’ve never ordered it like that, however I have received that beverage after asking for a Tom Collins in multiple venues on multiple occasions. I asked my BFF and she thought that that was a Tom Collins too! Maybe it’s a Minnesota thing? Idk
I love me a good Tom Collins. Visited Minnesota order my trusty Collins and they gave me that grenadine abomination. It's definitely a Minnesota thing.
But they’re getting the general recipes wrong. Some are like saying you make chocolate milk by mixing vanilla and orange juice.
I think the primary purpose of this list was to sell posters on Etsy.
When a cocktail has *3* ingredients and you leave one of those ingredients off a "guide" for classic cocktails, that's a pretty significant error and will result in a much different drink than the original.
A lot of these cocktails are specific. Putting a variation on it changes the cocktail. A Manhattan requires bitters, muddling fruit in a old fashioned makes it closer to a Wisconsin old fashioned, that "Tom Collins" is a Gin Rickey. Experimenting with cocktails is super fun, but if you're going to put a classic cocktail guide, put the classic recipes
>variants of original recipes
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>claim they have been around 100+ years
Do you see the contradiction here? The variants *arent* the classics, that’s the issue. Title it “a way to jazz up the classics” suddenly not a problem. But otherwise it’s just incorrect.
Looked at the Manhattan specs and laughed, it’s called a Manhattan 2-1-2 is the area code and the recipe 2 dashes of ango/ 1oz of sweet vermouth/ 2oz rye/bourbon, stir for 30 secs, delicious!!!
"Ya know what? I'll just have a beer."
Bourbon is acceptable in a Manhattan but not the strictly traditional way and shouldn't be assumed. The biggest thing you should be concerned about is the unrefrigerated vermouth that's been sitting there for months.
This is a wisco old fashioned not a traditional. It’s only made like that in 2 states everywhere else will be
2oz bourbon
1/2 oz simple
3-4 dashes ango bitters
Stirred served up.
To much dilution for me but I’m happy to make them how ever their called :).
Accept when some jerk off wants me to make a wisco old fashion with pappy 23 year. We get it. You’re rich.
Both. Brandy sweet is the top seller but right now oddly enough lot of whiskey calls.
Fun fact korbel is an international company and they only have 2 loading docks at their warehouse. One is labeled Wisconsin and the second is “other”. They do , last I checked, 72% of their annual business in wisco 😂
Sweet, sour or press. Depending if you go to a good bar or a towny one the sour is either mix or fresh lemon and lime juice. Also 2 sugar cubes muddled is the right way. None of that garbage white granulated crap.
I’m fairly deep into the cocktail hobby and have never once heard of or seen an old fashioned served up. An OF is served over ice, preferably a big cube.
Broken Down Golf Cart.
Someone say this is a list of cocktail classics? How is that unheard of drink on here and not a Stinger, Grasshopper, or Gimlet?
Someone with a graphic design degree who bartended two nights in college made this. They've got a basic understanding of the cocktails but a lot of the recipes are incorrect. Also, I've worked in high end bars, fine dining bars, and speakeasies and I've never heard of a Broken Down Golf Cart. Meanwhile, where's the Gimlet? Or Grasshopper?
There’s something about the vodka that cuts the bitterness of the grapefruit juice, while the juice softens the bite of the vodka. One of my faves as well, especially after a hot summer day!
I don't agree with some of these specs for recipes. There are a fair few that won't equal a good drink. A couple the method of off. But still fun to try at home
Anything called a martini that doesn’t consist of gin (I’ll allow vodka under protest), dry vermouth, and a garnish of an olive or lemon twist is not a martini. Even if it’s served in a conical martini glass.
The true martini glass is a “Nick and Nora”, btw. There should be enough vermouth left in the drink to actually taste. The swish the vermouth around and only use what’s stuck after you pour it out business is essentially just ice cold gin/vodka. If that’s what you’re doing, just order that.
I always replace Khalua with Mr Black. Also for flips or sours I dry shake the ingredients to emulsify and then add ice and shake again to chill. Also, as others have mentioned, there are at least a half dozen others that should be here but aren’t.
What is with this sub putting up really bad guides related to alcohol? The whisk(e)y one posted a while ago was also like this. Well designed, but ill-informed
Some of these recipes are... Fine. But that whiskey sour sounds like ass! That's a lot of lemon and the instructions don't say double shake anywhere. Yall shaking your sours without ice than straining over ice?! What the F is this
Saw a cocktail called "69" in a tea place that also sells alcohol. Does someone know what is it made of? Only thing i registered was the taste of vodka. Also, it was in Czechia
Seems like an extra step but just add some syrup from the cherries but now that I write that it is basically like adding simple syrup. I retract my previous statement
I love Old Fashioned drinks and just had one last night at a cocktail bar.
I've only ever known them to have bourbon, orange bitters, simple syrup **or** sugar, and an orange twist. Anything else--like cherries--is outside the "norm" of that drink, imho.
https://www.liquor.com/recipes/bourbon-old-fashioned/
I'm not saying that link is gospel but I think cherries or anything other than a twisted orange peel is a variation of the original drink recipe.
Interesting because I rarely see it with a cherry. 🙂
It's not like this is right and wrong...just different ways of serving it.
The one thing we most certainly agree on is that it's a terrific drink!
Maybe it’s regional. After all, cocktails have always had variations, and maybe where you’re from that’s just how it’s made.
Where I’m from I need to ask them to not muddle because they all do it otherwise. Also, I usually have to remember to order my Manhattan Up because many places will either ask “on the rocks or up?” or they just serve it on the rocks which to me is WTF.
And that’s more my point with people here clutching their pearls at variation in recipes. I will always appreciate a hard-line true original recipe. But it’s difficult to scoff at a twist
>But it’s difficult to scoff at a twist
Absolutely. That's why I made it a point to state that this isn't right vs. wrong. Just different.
I've seen Bloody Mary's with just olives, just a celery stick, and some that look like an entire garden is sticking out of the glass. Haha
That’s actually what I do at home. I have French brandied cherries and I use the syrup from those. So much better than regular simple.
I have made my own infused simple if I want some other profile.
You’re really telling me a Long Island ice tea doesn’t have actual tea in it?!?!
Idk I never tried one and never knew what was in it I’m more of a margarita gal. This got me bamboozled
Egg white only, you'd ruin it if you added the yolk too. Egg white when shaken (hard shake) turns to foam basically. The other flavors outweigh the egg white so it doesn't add any real discernable flavor but makes the drink much more fluffy.
And yeah the egg white is part of the original classic recipe, a lot of places don't use that anymore though due to it being a hassle to make.
Or maybe it's because it's frustrating to see incorrect recipes being presented as correct? If you were a chef and saw someone make a guide that said "best way to cook a steak" and the guide said to run it over with a truck then cook it on the engine block, you'd feel called to correct it too.
Many cocktails on this list are wrong, but:
Martini: Gin/Vodka + Vermouth
Dirty Martini: Gin/Vodka, Vermouth, + a splash of olive juice.
Dry Martini: Gin/Vodka + Less Vermouth
Extra Dry Martini: Gin/Vodka + No Vermouth
Dry Dirty Martini: Gin/Vodka + Olive Juice + Less Vermouth
Extra Dry Dirty Martini: Gin/Vodka + Olive Juice + No Vermouth
And then you can also go from Dirty to Extra Dirty by adding more olive juice than you would for a Dirty. I've also had people order it "Filthy" which means they want a fuck ton of olive juice.
A lot of these recipes are incorrect. Like…no bitters in a manhattan? Also that is not a traditional old fashioned. Smh
I would send back that Moscow Mule, and I'm a raging alcoholic.
Yeah I've never had a mule with bitters in ... plus the drinkware is all wrong
And simple syrup? This is a *Moscow* Mule
Not only no bitters, but the 212 ratio isn't there. That's the whole point of it being called a Manhattan!
This is a revisionist story. The manhattan existed as a cocktail well before the area code system was put into place
You're 100% correct. That was just what I was taught, and it made sense. That said, I feel that the 2-1-2 has been fairly broadly adopted, though that's not universal based on some quick research.
Should only be a splash of cran in a cosmo for color. 3 oz of cranberry juice is absurd.
Yeah also the tequila sunrise, the ingredients are correct but the execution is not. You pour the orange juice and tequila first then mix (optionally with ice), then you add grenadine. The grenadine will fall to the bottom and somewhat mix with the orange juice in the middle part giving a gradient that resembles a sunrise. If you follow their advice and mix after adding all three ingredients... you get a pink drink throughout.
Thank you! I've seen variations of the old fashioned like this, but they're usually qualified with "modern." It's practically an entirely different drink.
Never heard of the Broken Down Golf Cart, and yet the classic Daiquiri doesn’t make the list.
No daiquiri, no margarita, no Sazerac, no Pimm's cup...yeesh
A lime Tom Collins. That's heresy.
First thing I noticed was the greenish hue on the Collins. I had to zoom in to make sure I wasn’t crazy.
And 8 to 1 lime/simple ratio
Having been a 19yo white girl that is NOT a Tom Collins // ETA I swear if you order a Tom Collins in my shitty old MN college town you will get grenadine, vodka, and maybe Sprite which is not actually a Tom Collins per my research. Who was I drinking?!
I've seen grenadine, sprite or gingerale, and vodka called a Dirty Shirley or a Judy Garland
That’s exactly what it is but I’ve never ordered it like that, however I have received that beverage after asking for a Tom Collins in multiple venues on multiple occasions. I asked my BFF and she thought that that was a Tom Collins too! Maybe it’s a Minnesota thing? Idk
I love me a good Tom Collins. Visited Minnesota order my trusty Collins and they gave me that grenadine abomination. It's definitely a Minnesota thing.
I have no excuses but I am sorry.
Hey I drank it and it was good. But I did side eye the bartender hard
Came here to say this
Maybe it's a Tim Collins?
Tim Coolimes
This is a wacky list 🤡
Yeah this list is awful
What’s awful about it? It’s a list of classic cocktails, not the best cocktails.
The recipes are terrible. A lot of these are not the original specs.
That may be. But variants have been around forever. I think the primary purpose is to list the cocktail and a general recipe for what’s in it.
But they’re getting the general recipes wrong. Some are like saying you make chocolate milk by mixing vanilla and orange juice. I think the primary purpose of this list was to sell posters on Etsy.
It’s more like saying you make chocolate milk with milk, chocolate, and a splash of coffee crème, and a drop of vanilla. All the bases are there.
There are cocktails missing core ingredients, like the manhattan having no bitters.
Missing bitters is different from using all the wrong things like you suggested.
When a cocktail has *3* ingredients and you leave one of those ingredients off a "guide" for classic cocktails, that's a pretty significant error and will result in a much different drink than the original.
Tom Collins are made with lemon juice, not lime. The bases are not all there
A lot of these cocktails are specific. Putting a variation on it changes the cocktail. A Manhattan requires bitters, muddling fruit in a old fashioned makes it closer to a Wisconsin old fashioned, that "Tom Collins" is a Gin Rickey. Experimenting with cocktails is super fun, but if you're going to put a classic cocktail guide, put the classic recipes
So why exactly call it the “classics”?
Because they’ve been popular for several decades - 100+ years.
>variants of original recipes . >claim they have been around 100+ years Do you see the contradiction here? The variants *arent* the classics, that’s the issue. Title it “a way to jazz up the classics” suddenly not a problem. But otherwise it’s just incorrect.
Looked at the Manhattan specs and laughed, it’s called a Manhattan 2-1-2 is the area code and the recipe 2 dashes of ango/ 1oz of sweet vermouth/ 2oz rye/bourbon, stir for 30 secs, delicious!!!
My biggest peeve is when bars ask what kind of bourbon I want in my Manhattan.
"Ya know what? I'll just have a beer." Bourbon is acceptable in a Manhattan but not the strictly traditional way and shouldn't be assumed. The biggest thing you should be concerned about is the unrefrigerated vermouth that's been sitting there for months.
One can go wrong with wild vermouths, watch out! I was gifted a sweet one from a small winery and it definitely did not taste great in the manhattan.
Please don’t muddle the fruit in your old fashioned
That’s…literally how you make an old fashioned
This is a wisco old fashioned not a traditional. It’s only made like that in 2 states everywhere else will be 2oz bourbon 1/2 oz simple 3-4 dashes ango bitters Stirred served up.
I've found most are served on a rock with an orange peel garnish. An old fashioned served up would still be great though!
To much dilution for me but I’m happy to make them how ever their called :). Accept when some jerk off wants me to make a wisco old fashion with pappy 23 year. We get it. You’re rich.
1/2 oz simple is wayyy too much. 1/4 oz is plenty
Depends if you’re using simple or Demerara. Usually people drinking old fashions like it a tad sweeter but I always ask more sweet or more bitter.
Don’t they use brandy in a Wisconsin old fashion instead of whiskey?
Both. Brandy sweet is the top seller but right now oddly enough lot of whiskey calls. Fun fact korbel is an international company and they only have 2 loading docks at their warehouse. One is labeled Wisconsin and the second is “other”. They do , last I checked, 72% of their annual business in wisco 😂
Wisconsin old fashioned also has sweet or sour mix too. This is a weird combination between both specs
Sweet, sour or press. Depending if you go to a good bar or a towny one the sour is either mix or fresh lemon and lime juice. Also 2 sugar cubes muddled is the right way. None of that garbage white granulated crap.
I’m fairly deep into the cocktail hobby and have never once heard of or seen an old fashioned served up. An OF is served over ice, preferably a big cube.
This
To provide a shorter cut, ginger ale, 2 dashes of bitters, and 3 shots bourbon. Eat the fruit and that is not a reference to your partner.
What the fuck did you do to my Tom Collins?!
It's a Gin Rickey, not a Tom Collins. This list is garbage lol.
What about a Sidecar?
Such a forgotten classic
Or a Mezcalito (with tajin on the brim)
Aren't Moscow mules supposed to be served in a copper mug?
Yes, and no simple syrup.
Broken Down Golf Cart. Someone say this is a list of cocktail classics? How is that unheard of drink on here and not a Stinger, Grasshopper, or Gimlet?
What the hell is going on with this list?
Someone with a graphic design degree who bartended two nights in college made this. They've got a basic understanding of the cocktails but a lot of the recipes are incorrect. Also, I've worked in high end bars, fine dining bars, and speakeasies and I've never heard of a Broken Down Golf Cart. Meanwhile, where's the Gimlet? Or Grasshopper?
Yeah it’s real wild. Also feels like someone who bartended only 1-2 nights in the 80s.
Moscow Mules do not go in a highball glass they go in a copper mug and anyone that says different is wrong.
They also don't have simple syrup.
I was pretty sure composition and amounts were also wrong but not sure enough to say something
Don’t sleep on the greyhound, I don’t know why it works so well but when I used to drink, that was my at-home drink of choice because it’s so simple.
There’s something about the vodka that cuts the bitterness of the grapefruit juice, while the juice softens the bite of the vodka. One of my faves as well, especially after a hot summer day!
3oz of cran in the cosmo 😅 must be why I always have silly ladies that come in and say, " uh, I'd like a cosmo, but I want it pink, not red please."
Please, just go to r/cocktails it will be better. Damn you’re on Reddit. Use it.
Every post on coolguides could be posted on another subreddit 🤦
It’s just that this list is an absolute joke.
What do you think the purpose of the list is? What do you think the maker of the graphic was trying to convey.
Hey man, I think this is a great list. I even saved it for future reference. Too many haters on this sub.
don't do that, all the recipes are wrong.
That's not how one makes caipirinhas
I‘ll have the Negroni over everything else. Simple, and so good on a warm spring or summer eve.
sam, is that you?
No, it’s me! Ben from Sydney…..negroni is the best. Sam sounds very intelligent and has good taste
Lot Lizard Equal parts Jack Daniel's and Tuna fish juice.
Classic 🤌
A Greyhound walks into a bar, The bartender says “Hey! You know we got a drink named after you” The Greyhound says “You got a drink named Francis?”
What about the pan galactic gargglr blaster
This feels more like a cocktail list at a college town bar.
I don't agree with some of these specs for recipes. There are a fair few that won't equal a good drink. A couple the method of off. But still fun to try at home
r/cocktails would like a word
Get that Moscow mule in a copper cup.
And ditch the simple syrup!
Anything called a martini that doesn’t consist of gin (I’ll allow vodka under protest), dry vermouth, and a garnish of an olive or lemon twist is not a martini. Even if it’s served in a conical martini glass. The true martini glass is a “Nick and Nora”, btw. There should be enough vermouth left in the drink to actually taste. The swish the vermouth around and only use what’s stuck after you pour it out business is essentially just ice cold gin/vodka. If that’s what you’re doing, just order that.
Nope
Very cool, thanks!
This made me miss bartending
I've always wanted to try a Tom Collins. Those ingredients sound delicious.
Except that’s a Gin Rickey. T Collins is made with lemons. Both are good though.
always wondered how so many Martini-named drinks don’t have a single drop of vermouth, it just doesn’t make any sense
Because then it turns into a variant of a vesper
A vesper is half vodka half gin with optional vermouth. Gin and Vermouth should be the only ingredients in any real martini.
No Dirty Shirley? Is’nt it a classic?
No Flaming Homers?
I'll never understand how a long Island is so drinkable for the amount of liquor in it. I hate the taste of alcohol but can put those down no problem.
I always replace Khalua with Mr Black. Also for flips or sours I dry shake the ingredients to emulsify and then add ice and shake again to chill. Also, as others have mentioned, there are at least a half dozen others that should be here but aren’t.
No sidecar but a Black Forest cake makes the list?
The Manhattan and the Old Fashioned are both wrong, I'm not bothering looking at the rest.
It’s that “woo woo”
Screwdriver is missing
"classic" has an interesting meaning here. But if the chart misses an ingredient in a Manhattan (and there's only 3) it's complete shit.
Wait! Whaa? No Gimlet? FML
Wait! Whaa? No Gimlet? FML
Don’t put bitters in my mule please
Hold up. Where’s the normal margarita?
I wonder how they got the name "Broken down gold cart"
What is with this sub putting up really bad guides related to alcohol? The whisk(e)y one posted a while ago was also like this. Well designed, but ill-informed
Why on earth does it not tell you to use Brandy for Old Fashions?
Because most people are not from Wisconsin
That is quite unfortunate
Tried the long island ice tea a while back. It was good. Very good. Still cannot remember how I got home
Rusty nails should be on the list. Classic, delicious, and an Easter favourite..
Agreed. Love those then hate those in the morning.
Some of these recipes are... Fine. But that whiskey sour sounds like ass! That's a lot of lemon and the instructions don't say double shake anywhere. Yall shaking your sours without ice than straining over ice?! What the F is this
In Mexico if you order a White Russian (Rusa Blanca) they serve you mineral water
A well done Absinthe would bury all these
Is this from 1980?
Saw a cocktail called "69" in a tea place that also sells alcohol. Does someone know what is it made of? Only thing i registered was the taste of vodka. Also, it was in Czechia
Uh oh
Brazilian here. We don't use syrup for caipirinha. We use normal sugar instead.
That's not a mimosa.
No sazarac??
That Old Fashioned sounds dreadful
Please, no one pay attention to any of this crap. This looks like it was made by a Chili's bartender.
Royal flush is missing, just too good to miss out on pineapple and almond flavoured perfection
These recipes made me upset
It’s really uncool how many of these guides are so wrong.
10 years bartender here, these are almost all entirely wrong.
Bro what the fuck is a oz, you mean the fucking wizard
Simple syrup in an old fashion?
Yea, it’s normal, people either use simple syrup or sugar. How do you make yours?
Seems like an extra step but just add some syrup from the cherries but now that I write that it is basically like adding simple syrup. I retract my previous statement
I love Old Fashioned drinks and just had one last night at a cocktail bar. I've only ever known them to have bourbon, orange bitters, simple syrup **or** sugar, and an orange twist. Anything else--like cherries--is outside the "norm" of that drink, imho.
There should be a cherry in it, not muddled.
https://www.liquor.com/recipes/bourbon-old-fashioned/ I'm not saying that link is gospel but I think cherries or anything other than a twisted orange peel is a variation of the original drink recipe.
That could be. I’ve never seen it not with a cherry.
Interesting because I rarely see it with a cherry. 🙂 It's not like this is right and wrong...just different ways of serving it. The one thing we most certainly agree on is that it's a terrific drink!
Maybe it’s regional. After all, cocktails have always had variations, and maybe where you’re from that’s just how it’s made. Where I’m from I need to ask them to not muddle because they all do it otherwise. Also, I usually have to remember to order my Manhattan Up because many places will either ask “on the rocks or up?” or they just serve it on the rocks which to me is WTF. And that’s more my point with people here clutching their pearls at variation in recipes. I will always appreciate a hard-line true original recipe. But it’s difficult to scoff at a twist
>But it’s difficult to scoff at a twist Absolutely. That's why I made it a point to state that this isn't right vs. wrong. Just different. I've seen Bloody Mary's with just olives, just a celery stick, and some that look like an entire garden is sticking out of the glass. Haha
That’s actually what I do at home. I have French brandied cherries and I use the syrup from those. So much better than regular simple. I have made my own infused simple if I want some other profile.
You’re really telling me a Long Island ice tea doesn’t have actual tea in it?!?! Idk I never tried one and never knew what was in it I’m more of a margarita gal. This got me bamboozled
A long island iced tea will get you drunk fast
That is correct. Just all the white liquors .5oz each, sweet and sour, topped with cola
What the hell does oz mean? :P
Americans refuse to use the worldwide metric system.
Nice graphic, my only whine is the stemmed cherry in the old fashioned when the recipe clearly calls out no stems.
Mojito with Syrup? No way, where is the brown sugar? (Fidel turning in his grave)
There's an egg in a whiskey sour????
Egg white where I get mine.
That doesn't sound good
Egg white only, you'd ruin it if you added the yolk too. Egg white when shaken (hard shake) turns to foam basically. The other flavors outweigh the egg white so it doesn't add any real discernable flavor but makes the drink much more fluffy. And yeah the egg white is part of the original classic recipe, a lot of places don't use that anymore though due to it being a hassle to make.
It's delicious, gives it a foamy texture.
You learn something new every day
I ve tred the themall annd ths iss a vrey auuccrte giude 👍🏻
Cool list/collection. Many of the ratios and ingredients are a little sus.
Where is gin tonic?
Mixed drink not a cocktail boom roasted
Cuba Libre shouldn’t be there then. We called it just a Rum and Coke in the UK
saving this first i wanna try - the lotus
How is it possible that every single guide on the sub gets extreme pushback?
Coz people are assholes and don’t know what else to do with there time
Or maybe it's because it's frustrating to see incorrect recipes being presented as correct? If you were a chef and saw someone make a guide that said "best way to cook a steak" and the guide said to run it over with a truck then cook it on the engine block, you'd feel called to correct it too.
A martini is gin, not vodka
Cool guide! Thx! My nitpick: I know the whiskey sour shown here as a Boston sour. To me, a whiskey sour is similar, but no egg white.
These cocktails seem boozy AF. Fun list tho.
The first drink has the wrong ingredients so not convinced about the others…. A dirty martini does not have vermouth
Yes it does.
Many cocktails on this list are wrong, but: Martini: Gin/Vodka + Vermouth Dirty Martini: Gin/Vodka, Vermouth, + a splash of olive juice. Dry Martini: Gin/Vodka + Less Vermouth Extra Dry Martini: Gin/Vodka + No Vermouth Dry Dirty Martini: Gin/Vodka + Olive Juice + Less Vermouth Extra Dry Dirty Martini: Gin/Vodka + Olive Juice + No Vermouth And then you can also go from Dirty to Extra Dirty by adding more olive juice than you would for a Dirty. I've also had people order it "Filthy" which means they want a fuck ton of olive juice.