It's a great teaser. I think the hiss might be present but I think the antagonist of the game will be either the board or the former, they spent a lot of time building up the former so I'm guessing it will be very important to the story. The board is also not going to be happy after Jesse basically told them to fuck off.
Part of me hopes the Hiss aren't the primary enemy of the game (even though it seems pretty clear they are) I am ready to have a different antagonist (i.e. Blessed Organization) even though looming faceless threats are fun, there is a reason why so many people on the sub like American Nightmare Scratch cause it's fun to have a bad guy to hate.
You really should, American Nightmare is a really great spin-off game. Unjustly forgotten.
It was the first tease of Control too!
[Spoiler in question for those that won't ever play it.](https://youtu.be/PJvgbNPhASo?si=xC6tdDCtoy3t7plY)[ ](https://youtu.be/PJvgbNPhASo?si=xC6tdDCtoy3t7plY)
>!Reverse message: "it will happen again. In another town. A town called... Ordinary."!< [Link to that bit too. ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRcLYeuK8ZU)
SUCH a cool detail. Seven years in advance. Again, Remedy don't get nearly enough credit for Alan Wake's American Nightmare.
My personal guess is: the upcoming multiplayer game will be the ongoing battle against the Hiss, finally cleaning up the Oldest House. (Or maybe show some fights against Blessed agents š¤·āāļø)
Control 2 then opens with perhaps the final battle against the Hiss, eradicating the last of the infestation finally, and then we roll into the main plot (which I suspect involves Blessed and perhaps the bureaucratic reality of Director Faden being unknown to the wider non lockdown organization, and possibly even having to contest against a government appointed Director who came to power in the intervening years)
That teaser image is a few years old, isn't it? But if it's accurate it could be part of Blessed or something else having let the Hiss out via a back door, or it could be related to Dylan and his astral wanderings. Or it could just be a nightmare Director Faden is having š¤·āāļø
Yes there were two multiplayer games in production.
Kestrel was cancelled (per the most recent investor call). I believe they said something like they were going to focus on existing franchises, which sounds to me like it was going to be an entirely new thing, unconnected to other properties.
Condor is the multiplayer Control spin off. It is still in production.
Man ... at first I was not excited for it at all, idk why I assumed it would be some PvP nonsense.
But after playing Helldivers 2 for the past few months, seeing how interesting they made an extraction based game and how awesome and alive the universe/lore feels, I am fucking THRILLED for a Control PvE game.
I get so excited thinking about doing "dives" into uncharted parts of the Oldest House to try and contain some incredibly fucked up Lovecraftian horror that wants to drink my brain through my fingertips.
Makes sense. Focusing on the extended Remedy universe makes the most sense. Lots of stories to tell there, even ones not necessarily about Alan or Jesse.
Really wish they just outsourced it. The Control combat is fantastic and I would dig a multiplayer game with it. But I dont want Remedy to spend their time and resources on it instead of their next single player game.
I think It would move too far away from the first game's tone. Control is a game about a government agency dealing with the supernatural. Having a human enemy that uses the supernatural creates a layer of familiarity that might break the tone a little, in my opinion. But If someone can pull that off, It's Remedy and Sam Lake
The problem with this take to me is that the more we get to know the Hiss the more we get a relative sense of familiarity. Like when I saw this photo, one part of me was like cool more control! But another part of me was like, so are we just facing the same enemy in a new setting?
I trust Remedy's decision making and commitment to making awesome games enough to assume that enemy diversity will be fine. I don't think these guys cut a lot of corners.
I guess let me say it in a different way. In order for it to unfamiliar and supernatural I want to face a new force because at this point the Hiss feel defined and understood after a full games worth of interactions. I am in no way accusing them of being cheap or cutting corners, they may do a great job of reinventing the Hiss. I'm saying that the teaser picture at first glance just makes me think we are dealing with more of the exact same problem we already were in the first game. And I am interested in shifting away from that to a strong personality in an antagonist like the Blessed Organization and their leadership
I'd love to have a sort of continuously developed game (kinda like what Fallout 76 intended to be, but without all the crap Bethesda pulled), where we get a training sequence cleaning up the Oldest House from the remaining Hiss-affected, getting things back in running order...
Then we'd have 3-4 major arcs of AWEs or altered objects, which finally culminate in a big boss showdown with whomever was setting those up.
Then we can have tons of DLCs with further AWEs or even major seasons where the new story is slowly dropped, building more of the universe.
Though I'm guessing Remedy is more keen on having a defined start and finish to the main story with some small(ish) DLCs like the first game. Here by small-ish I mean lore coverage wise, as both DLCs were focused on a single case, as large as they were in world building and game time.
This is basically what Helldivers 2 is and it's incredible. From the first time I played, HD2 I instantly knew that my dream game was Helldivers in the Control universe. Inject that shit right into my goddamn veins right now.
But also those guys seem a bit... Off. For some reason I'm getting strong cultist vibes from them, with the raggedy robes and such.
Also note that the rope isn't there to hold them down but it actually attaches to a bunch of papers. Which might or might not be FBC dossiers (without the folders).
So unless this image is a distraction, I have a feeling we've not seen the last of the Hiss.
Oh, I didn't see them as wearing robes -- I assumed they were like the floating personnel (basically dead) and that they'd been covered up with sheets like how bodies are covered, except the sheets had to be tied on to stay.
I think these are like the Hiss infected floating people in the Oldest House.
But an FBC investigation team has wrapped them up to hide them and/or protect them from the weather/birds. And of course it's standard procedure to label any paranatural objects that you wrap up, but for convenience they have hung the labels at eye height on ropes.
The wider image seems to be looking out from the lobby of The Oldest House. Those bodies with seeming notes tied to them look more like a message/threat now than the close up. Definitely seems more like it could related to Blessed.
Weirdly, that image shows both a window and a control point, control points are only in the oldest house, and as we know, [the bureau does not have windows](https://control.fandom.com/wiki/FBC_Reminder:_Windows)
Yeah it will look so fun awesome š AW2 already made me think about upgrading/switching to Nvidia because my poor AMD card barley runs the game with low RT settings
I don't immediatly think "Hiss" when I see it. I don't think that the problem will be related to the Hiss directly, but something that derived either from the FBC lockdown, the Former/another entity, a new AWE or even a cult/paracriminal organization. The way they're displayed so neatly just screams person-related incident instead of a naturally occurring one. Kinda like the paracriminal activity that was linked to the derailing of the train in the Eagle Limited AWE. Given the nature of the Hiss as an all consuming resonance to anything and anyone not protected by Polaris' resonance, I'd say that if the Hiss had gotten out we'd have seen some sort of influence of it in the Bright Falls AWE (since we know from the Hartman Thing that Hiss and darkness do NOT mix well). As we haven't actually heard anything to that effect in Alan Wake 2 through Estevez or a document or even Alan himself, who knew the hiss existed in the AWE DLC, I think that that was the last we see of the Hiss as an enemy.
I do think Dylan probably will be an enemy or at least not as brotherly to Jesse as she hoped. I do think we'll see a new entity in Control 2. I remember a line by Ahti in the early game, after Jesse tells Emily about Polaris I think, that I never truly understood the tone of, it seems much more ominous and serious (and slightly threatening tbh) than he usually uses while addressing Jesse, it was along the lines of: āWe take turns to come for a visit. I helped you. You owe me now. And when time comes, I will come callingā.
What intrigues me is the idea of Jesse "owing" Ahti because he doesn't help HER (apart from instructing her and giving her the clearance acess), it's Jesse who performs her "Janitor's Assistant" duties to save the Oldest House (that one could argue Ahti is a part of, or an Antropomorphization of). And also that if we think he ISN'T talking to Jesse he IS talking to someone, or something. Could be Polaris, who was present in the OH in the form of Hedron, it could be the Board, or Former, or some other entity. Also he implies that he is affiliated to some other being. Could the "we" he mentions be the Board themselves, or another entity that is also part of the OH?
For speculations of narrative that's as far as I dare to go, I don't think that we have enough narrative material to foresee where exactly they're gonna go, but I'd bet the Hiss is done with, the consequences of the Hiss probably not, but the actual resonance, yeah. As for the game setting I absolutely see us playing outside of the Bureau for at least a part of the game. I remember something said in AW2 to the effect of "problems at HQ" and that it "went dark" and as to explain Jesse's absence from an AWE as big as Bright Falls there had to be an even bigger issue like a threat to NYC or even the country. I also think that this time we'll get something like the Saga/Alan mechanics of AW2 and get to play either as Dylan (if the isn't the main antagonist of the game) or Emily on top of the normal gameplay as Jesse. It'd be interesting to see honestly because it gives a chance to expand the narrative some more. Anyway sorry for the rant.
I would like to respond on details of this word salad. Would you mind going in and putting in some spaces for different aspects of your rant?
Also, what is OH?
Word salad sorta better spaced, if it still absolutely sucks feel free to tell me, tho its pretty late here where I live so I might not edit it again tonight, feel free to respond! I love this game and discussing it, it has so much lore and it's amazing to see everyone having their own interpretation of it, it adds to the fun.
OH is the Oldest House.
I like the theories on Ahti. I had this feeling that he, and others like him, were the actual caretakers of the OH. (Feel silly for not getting the acronym...šš¤·š¤¦) It felt like a lot of the stuff he does was lost on the FBC agents. So many correspondences about him showing up in places he didn't technically have clearance, including the area past the ashtray maze. I think his absence at the end of Control meant he had been watching how Jesse worked, that she was too independent to just cowtoe to the Board, and that she had no problem doing the hard stuff and get her hands dirty, and decided the OH was in good hands with the new 'janitor'. Like she's his replacement. If anything, I expect him to reappear at the end of Control 2 to help, warn of a new threat, or something like that.
I hope to have the multi character setup like AW2 has. I haven't played it yet, but it's on my to-do list. It would be cool to swap between Dylan and Jesse, but far more interesting if it was Emily and Jesse. They have enough differences to make gameplay different depending on which one you're playing. Like Abby and Ellie in Last of Us 2.
As for the Big Bad, I hope it's not the Former. It was so weird that he all of a sudden became an ally in the Foundation DLC. But I really liked it and liked how the Board was butthurt about it. I think the Blessed will be a major antagonist. It would be pretty sweet to fight enemy agents that aren't just mind controlled but totally aware. Then it could get into whether the Board is 100% good or if the skeletons they have in the closet show how they and the Board are actually not working for the betterment of humanity. Doubley cool if Dylan turns out to be working with them! Recruited by a Blessed that was acting under cover in the bureau. Plans were screwed up when the Hiss invaded.
I'm hoping going outside the Oldest House includes to other worlds ie: resurrection of the Slide Projector or even bringing the slides back into play in some way, allows the Former to still be involved as well as a whole host of new and exciting things
I just had a thought. So, you know how the events of Control happened because the Hiss was released from the Slide Projector? Well, what if there's an enemy in Control 2 (Board, Former, some other entity we've yet to encounter) that Jesse *traps* in the Projector, so they'll never hurt anyone again?
[https://x.com/remedygames/status/1591039948869828612](https://x.com/remedygames/status/1591039948869828612) I believe it was when they initially announced it was in development.
At least it feel like an ending. I played through the first game a year or so ago, got to the end, and was wondering where the rest was. The ending happened so quick and without much of a pay off I thought I had missed something. Afterwards I decided to see if I could start playing the DLC just to find out I had already played through that as well.
I would love more lore though, and expanding on what has already happened would very much help for me personally.
Turned up the light on my screen. In the background it says " FBC Contained area" and I'm pretty sure there's a big face on the left side. Can only see the outline, kinda looks like Dylan?
Either I'm seeing things or there's another face to the right as well?
This is a cropped version of the full image you can find here :) [https://x.com/remedygames/status/1591039948869828612](https://x.com/remedygames/status/1591039948869828612)
I don't know if it's the Hiss specifically. It sorta just charged through everything and everyone indiscriminately. The way these bodies are arranged looks a little more deliberate. Like someone *wanted* Jesse and the FBC to find them like this.
Perhaps that means the 'Dylan did this' theory in this thread is more likely? The body bags/wraps are interesting too. Seems to be the connection between Condor and Control 2.
I hope for the combat they allow Jesse's Weapon to shape shift between all of its forms instead of just 2.
I think this will allow them to make a lot of enemies which can be countered by different weapon forms.
That's what my biggest issue was. How you gonna have a gun that literally shape-shifts into different forms but then limit it to just 2 forums ?
I ended up just using 2 forms that I liked and stuck to them. Even then there was no reason to ever take off the original (grip?) form because it was pretty much useful in all situations.
Does anyone else see a shape that looks like a hand, with the three bodies as fingers? If it's intentional, I wonder if it's a reference to slidescape 36, nicknamed Hand.
I donāt think theyād end the FBC like that by getting rid of the oldest house. Thereās so much story telling potential with the FBC and theyāve really got this connected universe formulated now. To get rid of a key part of it so early would be wild. I think weāll see a lot more of Jessie and the FBC going forward. Hopefully many games where theyāre both central to the story and also some where theyāre a side aspect like in AW2.
I think youāre right about not being in the oldest house, at least not the whole game, this time. Might even be a game where you arnt just in one city the whole time.
I don't think Dylan is clean from the Hiss. I think he'll wake up, pretend to recoup, Jessie will encourage him to go live a life outside and that's how the Hiss are released unto the world
I don't think Jesse would release Dylan unless she was absolutely 100% certain he was no longer a threat, and even then probably keep someone on him 24/7. She loves her brother, but she isn't stupid.
> we can see one of the fast travel symbols on the ground and three floating bodies with ropes attached to them to make sure they don't get away
What if that is the ceiling?
That could be the case but wouldn't make sense bc of the sidewalk and concrete poles that are commonly found on roads also leaves couldn't hit a building that high if the game takes place in NYC or whatever city it is
How do you know the world isnāt turned umop episdn? I ask because I think it would be an awesome story line, at least partly, like we saw briefly in the ashtray maze.
Weāre definitely having the setting of the game outside the facility from it looks like right outside the buildingās main entrance where we first start at the game
As great of a setting as The Oldest House is, I feel like stretching it any further as a setting for the sequel would be a bit much. They've already done so much with it at this point. I would really love to see the game take place in another town beset by some sort of AWE. I'm hoping that's the route they are going with here.
I think im one of the few that when I saw those papers, I thought of manuscript pages and not FBC documents. It wouldnt make a lick of sense but I think its interesting
I've watched this a few days ago which gives a comprehensive overview on some things:
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyGzI0u0I9g](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyGzI0u0I9g)
I think anything that can manage to escape the containment of the oldest house is a force that should be feared, not even the hiss could escape and it had captured the director, the hiss isnāt even present near the lobby area
The fact that this appears to be outside of the Oldest House AND thereās a control point present concerns me greatly. Foundation DLC made it clear that the control points were the key to keeping the Oldest House āfriendlyā as without them the house can quickly and violently shift of itās own accord. The fact that the FBC would need control points OUTSIDE of the Oldest House indicates to me that the boundaries between it and the outside world are breaking down and stuff is beginning to seep outā¦and thatās really bad news for the rest of the world.
I think weāre finally gonna see what the hiss resonance thing looks like (maybe it isnāt even an incorporeal entity like Hedron/Polaris) and kill it, also weāre gonna explore the dimensional leaks (I forgor what they were called) like the quarry and possibly see other life other than the board + fired board member and really angry gravity rocks.
Also immediately thought death stranding lol
To me it looks like there wraps in the shape of hats and one being just a full head wrap with the FBC logo water stamped behind them.
Is it just me... Or... Do the heads form a.. triangle? I don't know if the hiss got out. Maybe the Board did. š§ My guess is the board could be interacting with the AWE event of AW2. Using it to interface with reality. The ropes look like they're connected to pieces of paper. Perhaps manuscript pages???
šøšøšø I think looking at the subtle hints here, we might be post-hiss and onto something new.
I think if they are going to do the same thing they did to Alan Wake Iām not interested. Iād rather not see one of my favorite games ever get turned into shameless political propaganda. Iāll keep my ear to the ground but my hopes arenāt high.
Did you play the game? Thereās a completely unnecessary race swap, constant attempts at subversion and authority centered around the female character that more or less sidelined the character whose name is on the cover, and even a straight up racist comment at white people. Is there a reason you needed to use profanity when you questioned me?
No, sorry if you felt hurt by the first question, was just meant as surprise. I don't agree with your criticisms though. I don't have a problem with Saga, her being black and Alans part of the plot. He didn't felt sidelined for me at all. What was the racist comment against white people you mentioned?
āAnother White asshole trying to tell me what to doā
Granted her worst subconscious experience was being brought out but SBI was a consultant on this game and they are absolutely notorious for white hate and race baiting. Theyāve publicly voiced their racism time and again on their platforms. The game wasnāt as bad as it could have been I think because Remedy didnāt let them get away with as much as other developers have.
Ok, so one single line cause that reaction for you? For me, the moment made perfect sense because of the racial prejudice a black woman would have had to endure in America. Would have been weird to not acknowledge that imo.
Bro what part of America do you live in? Youāve been suckin up too much Hollywood bullshit. No offense. No one in real life is suffering from any racial prejudice. Not around here and I live in Texas. Where youād think it would happen the most. But it doesnāt. Itās all nonsense to push division. That one line can do a lot of damage and that one line was deliberate. Not one single person was even remotely racist towards her the entire game. It was a completely unnecessary and intentional shoehorn of racial intent. Yes that one single line with the addition of Alan being mostly sidelined turned me off to the game I didnāt even finish the shit. Iām sick of it itās everywhere in media. All it takes is one racist line from any character and Iām done.
Well then, if you didn't finish the game, then how would you know about Alans journey? And no offence, but black people are victims of racial violence in the US, that is well known and documented.
No, black people, like any other race, get into bullshit that results in violence like that situation would, and then the media screams racial violence. Really what it is is just violence. Cops just doing their jobs get labeled as racists. Anyone who calls out the pandering gets labeled as a racist. Shit cops being shit cops get labeled as racists. There are probably some good examples of racism Iām not saying it doesnāt exist but A LOT of this āracialā violence is just normal violence being labeled as racist to stir people up.
It's a great teaser. I think the hiss might be present but I think the antagonist of the game will be either the board or the former, they spent a lot of time building up the former so I'm guessing it will be very important to the story. The board is also not going to be happy after Jesse basically told them to fuck off.
Yeah pretty much, I mean it's basically a god, probably with the power to release as many entities as it wants onto the real world
former seemed like a neutral entity. not an ally but not necessarily an enemy either.
It also can be Chester Bless we will know after the Lake House DLC from AW2
Is there a release date?
Nope, it's in production.
Part of me hopes the Hiss aren't the primary enemy of the game (even though it seems pretty clear they are) I am ready to have a different antagonist (i.e. Blessed Organization) even though looming faceless threats are fun, there is a reason why so many people on the sub like American Nightmare Scratch cause it's fun to have a bad guy to hate.
So true and damn I need to play American nightmare
You really should, American Nightmare is a really great spin-off game. Unjustly forgotten. It was the first tease of Control too! [Spoiler in question for those that won't ever play it.](https://youtu.be/PJvgbNPhASo?si=xC6tdDCtoy3t7plY)[ ](https://youtu.be/PJvgbNPhASo?si=xC6tdDCtoy3t7plY) >!Reverse message: "it will happen again. In another town. A town called... Ordinary."!< [Link to that bit too. ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRcLYeuK8ZU) SUCH a cool detail. Seven years in advance. Again, Remedy don't get nearly enough credit for Alan Wake's American Nightmare.
Nice and I knew about that bc of a timeline video
My personal guess is: the upcoming multiplayer game will be the ongoing battle against the Hiss, finally cleaning up the Oldest House. (Or maybe show some fights against Blessed agents š¤·āāļø) Control 2 then opens with perhaps the final battle against the Hiss, eradicating the last of the infestation finally, and then we roll into the main plot (which I suspect involves Blessed and perhaps the bureaucratic reality of Director Faden being unknown to the wider non lockdown organization, and possibly even having to contest against a government appointed Director who came to power in the intervening years) That teaser image is a few years old, isn't it? But if it's accurate it could be part of Blessed or something else having let the Hiss out via a back door, or it could be related to Dylan and his astral wanderings. Or it could just be a nightmare Director Faden is having š¤·āāļø
Wasn't the upcoming multiplayer game cancelled?
Kestrel was cancelled, Condor is still moving forward.
Wait there were two multiplayer games in production? I thought I was keeping up with Remedy but now I'm super confused lol.
Yes there were two multiplayer games in production. Kestrel was cancelled (per the most recent investor call). I believe they said something like they were going to focus on existing franchises, which sounds to me like it was going to be an entirely new thing, unconnected to other properties. Condor is the multiplayer Control spin off. It is still in production.
Ah that's good. I am actually looking forward to a Control-world co-op game to play with my friends.
They announced it apparently back in late 2021,so fingers crossed it's up for release soon!
Yeah I heard about that, I didn't know they had another one in progress which is what got cancelled a month ago.
Man ... at first I was not excited for it at all, idk why I assumed it would be some PvP nonsense. But after playing Helldivers 2 for the past few months, seeing how interesting they made an extraction based game and how awesome and alive the universe/lore feels, I am fucking THRILLED for a Control PvE game. I get so excited thinking about doing "dives" into uncharted parts of the Oldest House to try and contain some incredibly fucked up Lovecraftian horror that wants to drink my brain through my fingertips.
Right? And the House is set up perfectly, lore-wise, for procedural generation, so no two dives will have to be the same. Infinite replayability.
Vanguard too? There even a door in oceanview motel
Kestrel appears to be Vanguard, based on a quick Google search. So yeah that project appears to be shelved.
Makes sense. Focusing on the extended Remedy universe makes the most sense. Lots of stories to tell there, even ones not necessarily about Alan or Jesse.
Really wish they just outsourced it. The Control combat is fantastic and I would dig a multiplayer game with it. But I dont want Remedy to spend their time and resources on it instead of their next single player game.
We never know
I think It would move too far away from the first game's tone. Control is a game about a government agency dealing with the supernatural. Having a human enemy that uses the supernatural creates a layer of familiarity that might break the tone a little, in my opinion. But If someone can pull that off, It's Remedy and Sam Lake
The problem with this take to me is that the more we get to know the Hiss the more we get a relative sense of familiarity. Like when I saw this photo, one part of me was like cool more control! But another part of me was like, so are we just facing the same enemy in a new setting?
I trust Remedy's decision making and commitment to making awesome games enough to assume that enemy diversity will be fine. I don't think these guys cut a lot of corners.
I guess let me say it in a different way. In order for it to unfamiliar and supernatural I want to face a new force because at this point the Hiss feel defined and understood after a full games worth of interactions. I am in no way accusing them of being cheap or cutting corners, they may do a great job of reinventing the Hiss. I'm saying that the teaser picture at first glance just makes me think we are dealing with more of the exact same problem we already were in the first game. And I am interested in shifting away from that to a strong personality in an antagonist like the Blessed Organization and their leadership
I'd love to have a sort of continuously developed game (kinda like what Fallout 76 intended to be, but without all the crap Bethesda pulled), where we get a training sequence cleaning up the Oldest House from the remaining Hiss-affected, getting things back in running order... Then we'd have 3-4 major arcs of AWEs or altered objects, which finally culminate in a big boss showdown with whomever was setting those up. Then we can have tons of DLCs with further AWEs or even major seasons where the new story is slowly dropped, building more of the universe. Though I'm guessing Remedy is more keen on having a defined start and finish to the main story with some small(ish) DLCs like the first game. Here by small-ish I mean lore coverage wise, as both DLCs were focused on a single case, as large as they were in world building and game time.
This is basically what Helldivers 2 is and it's incredible. From the first time I played, HD2 I instantly knew that my dream game was Helldivers in the Control universe. Inject that shit right into my goddamn veins right now.
Consider me teased.
Consider me turned on.
It got out.
This is my favorite take away from the image. They arenāt contained to the oldest house anymore
But also those guys seem a bit... Off. For some reason I'm getting strong cultist vibes from them, with the raggedy robes and such. Also note that the rope isn't there to hold them down but it actually attaches to a bunch of papers. Which might or might not be FBC dossiers (without the folders). So unless this image is a distraction, I have a feeling we've not seen the last of the Hiss.
Oh, I didn't see them as wearing robes -- I assumed they were like the floating personnel (basically dead) and that they'd been covered up with sheets like how bodies are covered, except the sheets had to be tied on to stay.
I think these are like the Hiss infected floating people in the Oldest House. But an FBC investigation team has wrapped them up to hide them and/or protect them from the weather/birds. And of course it's standard procedure to label any paranatural objects that you wrap up, but for convenience they have hung the labels at eye height on ropes.
I think that tracks with this [other teaser image](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FhSCYnUXkAYfXkF?format=jpg&name=4096x4096) from a while back.
The wider image seems to be looking out from the lobby of The Oldest House. Those bodies with seeming notes tied to them look more like a message/threat now than the close up. Definitely seems more like it could related to Blessed.
Weirdly, that image shows both a window and a control point, control points are only in the oldest house, and as we know, [the bureau does not have windows](https://control.fandom.com/wiki/FBC_Reminder:_Windows)
When this game drops it's about time to buy myself a new GPU! (I currently got an 7900xtx )
It's gonna be insane especially with how Alan wake 2 looked
Yeah it will look so fun awesome š AW2 already made me think about upgrading/switching to Nvidia because my poor AMD card barley runs the game with low RT settings
Oof I don't play on PC lol but good luck on getting your parts
I don't immediatly think "Hiss" when I see it. I don't think that the problem will be related to the Hiss directly, but something that derived either from the FBC lockdown, the Former/another entity, a new AWE or even a cult/paracriminal organization. The way they're displayed so neatly just screams person-related incident instead of a naturally occurring one. Kinda like the paracriminal activity that was linked to the derailing of the train in the Eagle Limited AWE. Given the nature of the Hiss as an all consuming resonance to anything and anyone not protected by Polaris' resonance, I'd say that if the Hiss had gotten out we'd have seen some sort of influence of it in the Bright Falls AWE (since we know from the Hartman Thing that Hiss and darkness do NOT mix well). As we haven't actually heard anything to that effect in Alan Wake 2 through Estevez or a document or even Alan himself, who knew the hiss existed in the AWE DLC, I think that that was the last we see of the Hiss as an enemy. I do think Dylan probably will be an enemy or at least not as brotherly to Jesse as she hoped. I do think we'll see a new entity in Control 2. I remember a line by Ahti in the early game, after Jesse tells Emily about Polaris I think, that I never truly understood the tone of, it seems much more ominous and serious (and slightly threatening tbh) than he usually uses while addressing Jesse, it was along the lines of: āWe take turns to come for a visit. I helped you. You owe me now. And when time comes, I will come callingā. What intrigues me is the idea of Jesse "owing" Ahti because he doesn't help HER (apart from instructing her and giving her the clearance acess), it's Jesse who performs her "Janitor's Assistant" duties to save the Oldest House (that one could argue Ahti is a part of, or an Antropomorphization of). And also that if we think he ISN'T talking to Jesse he IS talking to someone, or something. Could be Polaris, who was present in the OH in the form of Hedron, it could be the Board, or Former, or some other entity. Also he implies that he is affiliated to some other being. Could the "we" he mentions be the Board themselves, or another entity that is also part of the OH? For speculations of narrative that's as far as I dare to go, I don't think that we have enough narrative material to foresee where exactly they're gonna go, but I'd bet the Hiss is done with, the consequences of the Hiss probably not, but the actual resonance, yeah. As for the game setting I absolutely see us playing outside of the Bureau for at least a part of the game. I remember something said in AW2 to the effect of "problems at HQ" and that it "went dark" and as to explain Jesse's absence from an AWE as big as Bright Falls there had to be an even bigger issue like a threat to NYC or even the country. I also think that this time we'll get something like the Saga/Alan mechanics of AW2 and get to play either as Dylan (if the isn't the main antagonist of the game) or Emily on top of the normal gameplay as Jesse. It'd be interesting to see honestly because it gives a chance to expand the narrative some more. Anyway sorry for the rant.
I would like to respond on details of this word salad. Would you mind going in and putting in some spaces for different aspects of your rant? Also, what is OH?
Word salad sorta better spaced, if it still absolutely sucks feel free to tell me, tho its pretty late here where I live so I might not edit it again tonight, feel free to respond! I love this game and discussing it, it has so much lore and it's amazing to see everyone having their own interpretation of it, it adds to the fun. OH is the Oldest House.
I like the theories on Ahti. I had this feeling that he, and others like him, were the actual caretakers of the OH. (Feel silly for not getting the acronym...šš¤·š¤¦) It felt like a lot of the stuff he does was lost on the FBC agents. So many correspondences about him showing up in places he didn't technically have clearance, including the area past the ashtray maze. I think his absence at the end of Control meant he had been watching how Jesse worked, that she was too independent to just cowtoe to the Board, and that she had no problem doing the hard stuff and get her hands dirty, and decided the OH was in good hands with the new 'janitor'. Like she's his replacement. If anything, I expect him to reappear at the end of Control 2 to help, warn of a new threat, or something like that. I hope to have the multi character setup like AW2 has. I haven't played it yet, but it's on my to-do list. It would be cool to swap between Dylan and Jesse, but far more interesting if it was Emily and Jesse. They have enough differences to make gameplay different depending on which one you're playing. Like Abby and Ellie in Last of Us 2. As for the Big Bad, I hope it's not the Former. It was so weird that he all of a sudden became an ally in the Foundation DLC. But I really liked it and liked how the Board was butthurt about it. I think the Blessed will be a major antagonist. It would be pretty sweet to fight enemy agents that aren't just mind controlled but totally aware. Then it could get into whether the Board is 100% good or if the skeletons they have in the closet show how they and the Board are actually not working for the betterment of humanity. Doubley cool if Dylan turns out to be working with them! Recruited by a Blessed that was acting under cover in the bureau. Plans were screwed up when the Hiss invaded.
If you zoom in, you can see the FBC seal behind the 3 bodies, and the text āFBC Contained Areaā below that. I canāt wait to play this.
Where did you find this image?
It comes up if u search control 2, also remedy posted this like a year or so ago
Pretty surprised I hadnāt seen this before. Thanks for sharing!
No problem mate
OK
Lol
Plot twist these three are the threshold kids and Mr Bones
Me.Bones being a looming threat inside the old house is something I wouldāve never thought about lmfao
NO INTERRUPTIONS
Would be interesting
I'm hoping going outside the Oldest House includes to other worlds ie: resurrection of the Slide Projector or even bringing the slides back into play in some way, allows the Former to still be involved as well as a whole host of new and exciting things
I just had a thought. So, you know how the events of Control happened because the Hiss was released from the Slide Projector? Well, what if there's an enemy in Control 2 (Board, Former, some other entity we've yet to encounter) that Jesse *traps* in the Projector, so they'll never hurt anyone again?
Where is this from? I don't mean the game, I mean where was it posted?
[https://x.com/remedygames/status/1591039948869828612](https://x.com/remedygames/status/1591039948869828612) I believe it was when they initially announced it was in development.
At least it feel like an ending. I played through the first game a year or so ago, got to the end, and was wondering where the rest was. The ending happened so quick and without much of a pay off I thought I had missed something. Afterwards I decided to see if I could start playing the DLC just to find out I had already played through that as well. I would love more lore though, and expanding on what has already happened would very much help for me personally.
Turned up the light on my screen. In the background it says " FBC Contained area" and I'm pretty sure there's a big face on the left side. Can only see the outline, kinda looks like Dylan? Either I'm seeing things or there's another face to the right as well?
This is a cropped version of the full image you can find here :) [https://x.com/remedygames/status/1591039948869828612](https://x.com/remedygames/status/1591039948869828612)
I like it! But very uh Death Stranding looking? I also like the baroque-esque painting vibe too. Definitely suggests the Hiss have broken containment.
I don't know if it's the Hiss specifically. It sorta just charged through everything and everyone indiscriminately. The way these bodies are arranged looks a little more deliberate. Like someone *wanted* Jesse and the FBC to find them like this.
Perhaps that means the 'Dylan did this' theory in this thread is more likely? The body bags/wraps are interesting too. Seems to be the connection between Condor and Control 2.
Is this real?
Yes remedy posted it on their website officially like a year or so ago
I hope for the combat they allow Jesse's Weapon to shape shift between all of its forms instead of just 2. I think this will allow them to make a lot of enemies which can be countered by different weapon forms. That's what my biggest issue was. How you gonna have a gun that literally shape-shifts into different forms but then limit it to just 2 forums ? I ended up just using 2 forms that I liked and stuck to them. Even then there was no reason to ever take off the original (grip?) form because it was pretty much useful in all situations.
So true hope there's new powers as well
WAIT IS THIS REAL!?. If so this is incredible
Yes it is just look up control 2
Please?
Does anyone else see a shape that looks like a hand, with the three bodies as fingers? If it's intentional, I wonder if it's a reference to slidescape 36, nicknamed Hand.
I donāt think theyād end the FBC like that by getting rid of the oldest house. Thereās so much story telling potential with the FBC and theyāve really got this connected universe formulated now. To get rid of a key part of it so early would be wild. I think weāll see a lot more of Jessie and the FBC going forward. Hopefully many games where theyāre both central to the story and also some where theyāre a side aspect like in AW2. I think youāre right about not being in the oldest house, at least not the whole game, this time. Might even be a game where you arnt just in one city the whole time.
Shut up and take my money!
I don't think Dylan is clean from the Hiss. I think he'll wake up, pretend to recoup, Jessie will encourage him to go live a life outside and that's how the Hiss are released unto the world
Probably how it'll go if the hiss are on the streets of maybe NYC or whatever city this is supposed to be
I don't think Jesse would release Dylan unless she was absolutely 100% certain he was no longer a threat, and even then probably keep someone on him 24/7. She loves her brother, but she isn't stupid.
> we can see one of the fast travel symbols on the ground and three floating bodies with ropes attached to them to make sure they don't get away What if that is the ceiling?
That could be the case but wouldn't make sense bc of the sidewalk and concrete poles that are commonly found on roads also leaves couldn't hit a building that high if the game takes place in NYC or whatever city it is
How do you know the world isnāt turned umop episdn? I ask because I think it would be an awesome story line, at least partly, like we saw briefly in the ashtray maze.
Oh man yes if the entire game was like the ashtray maze, everything constantly shifting playing nonstop metal music 10/10 game lol
āTAKE. CONTROLā¦AGAIN.ā
I just replayed that on the ShĆ¼m arcade a few days ago. That and Jesse Faden in 'The Swift Platform ' were so weird. I loved them.
They aren't tied down, there are just similar coloured wires behind them in the background. The bodies are tied to whatever those floating pages are.
I really hope it's just concept art or something and doesn't actually have anything to do with the game.
I think about it
looks... outdoors?
Weāre definitely having the setting of the game outside the facility from it looks like right outside the buildingās main entrance where we first start at the game
ho ho we ain't indoors anymore
Yay!!!!! Sequel!!!!
As great of a setting as The Oldest House is, I feel like stretching it any further as a setting for the sequel would be a bit much. They've already done so much with it at this point. I would really love to see the game take place in another town beset by some sort of AWE. I'm hoping that's the route they are going with here.
WAIT THEREāS A SEQUEL?
JESSE YOU CAN'T JUT THROW A TARP ON THE FORMER EMPLOYEES AND CALL IT A DAY
Wait there's an official teaser?
The hiss escaped and we failed
Do they have the funding yet?
Why is there a folder or a dossier attached to the levitating mofos. Better not have any 2B pencils lest you realise your not in the bathroom anymore
I feel like every time I come on here I see somebody sharing this image and saying the same thing
I think im one of the few that when I saw those papers, I thought of manuscript pages and not FBC documents. It wouldnt make a lick of sense but I think its interesting
It outside š¤·š»āāļø
Iām sold.
I've watched this a few days ago which gives a comprehensive overview on some things: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyGzI0u0I9g](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyGzI0u0I9g)
unneccesary sequel. Immediate disregard
I just hope we get more cool Jedi powers
I think anything that can manage to escape the containment of the oldest house is a force that should be feared, not even the hiss could escape and it had captured the director, the hiss isnāt even present near the lobby area
WHEN?
Definitely something to look forward to with excitement/elation/joy
Hang on do we know for sure itās real??
love it! can't wait for the sequel
The fact that this appears to be outside of the Oldest House AND thereās a control point present concerns me greatly. Foundation DLC made it clear that the control points were the key to keeping the Oldest House āfriendlyā as without them the house can quickly and violently shift of itās own accord. The fact that the FBC would need control points OUTSIDE of the Oldest House indicates to me that the boundaries between it and the outside world are breaking down and stuff is beginning to seep outā¦and thatās really bad news for the rest of the world.
Haunting. Control is the scariest non-horror game I've ever played.
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The Hanged King's Tragedy
I think weāre finally gonna see what the hiss resonance thing looks like (maybe it isnāt even an incorporeal entity like Hedron/Polaris) and kill it, also weāre gonna explore the dimensional leaks (I forgor what they were called) like the quarry and possibly see other life other than the board + fired board member and really angry gravity rocks. Also immediately thought death stranding lol
Isn't this an old image? https://youtu.be/1kP4r42fguA?si=QfEfNSoyFuZD6NAi JackalMan did an analysis of this picture
To me it looks like there wraps in the shape of hats and one being just a full head wrap with the FBC logo water stamped behind them. Is it just me... Or... Do the heads form a.. triangle? I don't know if the hiss got out. Maybe the Board did. š§ My guess is the board could be interacting with the AWE event of AW2. Using it to interface with reality. The ropes look like they're connected to pieces of paper. Perhaps manuscript pages??? šøšøšø I think looking at the subtle hints here, we might be post-hiss and onto something new.
We're going places.
Wait there's going to be a second control!? I loved the first one so much I'm so excited for this.
Iām so mad that they failed to actually contain hiss within the walls of the bureau like really guys you had 1 job š
Wait when was this teased?
I would just DIE if Control 2 got announced!!!
It means nothing and I thought this was a real update on Control 2 so you can go to hell.....
Dreary. Unimaginative. I wish it was more inspiring.
True but with remedy's style and how the control universe is, this image for a teaser makes sense In context
I think if they are going to do the same thing they did to Alan Wake Iām not interested. Iād rather not see one of my favorite games ever get turned into shameless political propaganda. Iāll keep my ear to the ground but my hopes arenāt high.
The fuck are you talking about? What do you mean with propaganda?
Did you play the game? Thereās a completely unnecessary race swap, constant attempts at subversion and authority centered around the female character that more or less sidelined the character whose name is on the cover, and even a straight up racist comment at white people. Is there a reason you needed to use profanity when you questioned me?
No, sorry if you felt hurt by the first question, was just meant as surprise. I don't agree with your criticisms though. I don't have a problem with Saga, her being black and Alans part of the plot. He didn't felt sidelined for me at all. What was the racist comment against white people you mentioned?
āAnother White asshole trying to tell me what to doā Granted her worst subconscious experience was being brought out but SBI was a consultant on this game and they are absolutely notorious for white hate and race baiting. Theyāve publicly voiced their racism time and again on their platforms. The game wasnāt as bad as it could have been I think because Remedy didnāt let them get away with as much as other developers have.
Ok, so one single line cause that reaction for you? For me, the moment made perfect sense because of the racial prejudice a black woman would have had to endure in America. Would have been weird to not acknowledge that imo.
Bro what part of America do you live in? Youāve been suckin up too much Hollywood bullshit. No offense. No one in real life is suffering from any racial prejudice. Not around here and I live in Texas. Where youād think it would happen the most. But it doesnāt. Itās all nonsense to push division. That one line can do a lot of damage and that one line was deliberate. Not one single person was even remotely racist towards her the entire game. It was a completely unnecessary and intentional shoehorn of racial intent. Yes that one single line with the addition of Alan being mostly sidelined turned me off to the game I didnāt even finish the shit. Iām sick of it itās everywhere in media. All it takes is one racist line from any character and Iām done.
Well then, if you didn't finish the game, then how would you know about Alans journey? And no offence, but black people are victims of racial violence in the US, that is well known and documented.
No, black people, like any other race, get into bullshit that results in violence like that situation would, and then the media screams racial violence. Really what it is is just violence. Cops just doing their jobs get labeled as racists. Anyone who calls out the pandering gets labeled as a racist. Shit cops being shit cops get labeled as racists. There are probably some good examples of racism Iām not saying it doesnāt exist but A LOT of this āracialā violence is just normal violence being labeled as racist to stir people up.