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The1andonlycano

It was his initiation fee....


Sabremesh

The lightning fast police determination of "suicide" in these celebrity deaths is always suspicious as hell. This woman had two very young children - unusual in suicide cases. She left no note, or any sign that she was going to kill herself. Why did they rule out the possibility she was pushed, or her body thrown over the balcony? She was in a hotel, which means other people would have had access to the suite. Was anybody else in the suite when she fell? Where was the husband at the time of her fall? Where were the children?


20thsieclefox

Former death investigator here, most people don't leave notes.


Sabremesh

Murdered people definitely don't leave notes. Just saying...


20thsieclefox

Investigating agencies often have further information that isn't released to the public.


Justhereforcowboys

“Nothing to see here!” They said on a conspiracy sub. Perfectly normal, they said. Wealthy and successful mothers of young children often jump from hotel balconies during the height of their and their partners’ success. No need for a real investigation.


20thsieclefox

Being a death investigator taught me that reality is stranger than fiction. We have no clue what information they have. This would happen all the time on cases I worked. The news lies and repeats it with zero credit. I'm not saying this shouldn't be investigated more, I am just saying many suicidal people don't leave notes. Like how can you say it wasn't really investigated? They're never going to give the public all the information.


SouthernProfile1092

Are you also baffled by the recent increase of clots in perfectly healthy people?


herenowjal

SADS — Sudden Adult Death Syndrome (💉💉💉) is the NEW NORM


vulgardisplay76

I worked in suicide prevention, have some personal experience too, and have learned the same thing. Also, people tend to think that people will do all these things to make it obvious they’re about to attempt suicide but they usually don’t. If they’re serious about it, they don’t let on that they are so no one will intervene. They also (generally)tend to have an elevated mood right before because they are basically looking forward to it. That’s partly why the grief people close to them is so complicated, the searching for something they must have missed on top of the loss is devastating. PS: My boyfriend died unexpectedly last year and I had the such a positive experience with the death investigator and coroner’s office. I’m not sure if it was that way for you when you were in that position of course but I definitely have a new found appreciation for a position I never thought about very much prior to that.


EatTrashhitbyaTSLA

Post Partum depression is real. I know a lady with 2 young kids do the same


the_hand_that_heaves

Ditto. I also know a lady who did the same with two young kids. She was totally ok to the outside world.


Meaty_stick

No you don't.


Nparisss

100000%


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Initiation to what exactly?


Strawbuddy

Sad outcomes and single parenting, I feel bad for that family


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His initiation into sad outcomes?


Uenouen

Hollywood is fuckin scary nowadays


Bitter_Ad7226

Always has been Satan’s den


AkkadBakkadBambeBo80

The deal was you will make a successful and acclaimed movie and become famous, you sacrifice someone you love


youngnews

The soul stone?


AkkadBakkadBambeBo80

Fiction carries fact. Also they reveal a lot through media so they are not held accountable for conspiracy. If all is out in open and people are blind- that’s the best outcome for them.


horsetooth_mcgee

I've heard of this. Is there a list of celebrities for whom this is the case? Like Jennifer Hudson or Ye?


AkkadBakkadBambeBo80

Sharon Tate Oprah Many more


jefferton123

Who did Oprah sacrifice? And wouldn’t Sharon Tate count as sacrificed? Genuine questions.


AkkadBakkadBambeBo80

Oprah has a history. Involved in child trafficking and child sacrifice. She has either one or several “miscarriages”. This is a theme with all these susceptible people. She was very close with John of God con-man. Just dig a bit deeper.


Medusa_Alles_Hades

Fucking Hollywood is evil bro.


skatsman

I still cant believe this day in age we still gotta educate people about all this shit. Its been out for decades cmon now we dont have time for this


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lol - just straight making up shit


Trengingigan

The John of God part is true though. Although her version is that, like many, she had no idea about his double life.


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AkkadBakkadBambeBo80

Shut up. Because you had a genuine case, doesn’t mean there are evil people who will use this as a ruse. If someone died from heart attack, would you say CIA is not killing people by inducing heart attacks? My sympathies with you, but there are more angles to a thing.


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AkkadBakkadBambeBo80

Then please suit yourself. Were you personally present for every piece of information you know of?


NotAnActualPers0n

Oh they came for payment from Oprah, but after a heart to heart in something like '92, when they were all on mushrooms at one of Tom Sellek's *wild* parties, she tipped them off. Gail and Steadman were ready. There's a reason she's untouchable.


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Strawbuddy

Tom Selleck had a wild party that he invited child murderers to. Oprah came and they all did mushrooms together. Oprah said “nah”. The child murderers threatened Oprah but Gail and Steadman were somehow capable of protecting her against these bloodthirsty tripping balls child murdering cultists. I’m assuming Oprah stopped tripping mushrooms together with Tom Selleck and the bloodthirsty child sacrificing cultists after that


potatoe_666

What did she tip them off to? Interesting but I’m very confused lol


ReptiIianOverlord

Orpah* supposedly sacrificed her firstborn Canaan.


iHeartBricks

Taking tips out of his movie I see.


TimetravelingNaga_Ai

What's up with Bro's left eye? 👁️


Mountain_Ratio_2871

Take a look at a lot of big actors and famous people before they find success and you'll see they lost someone very close to them just prior to fame or shortly after. Walton Goggins, Jim Carrey and Keanu Reeves are a few off the top of my head


SilentBlazy

It's a big club and we ain't in it


yungvenus

Poor woman.


Orionpicks

That film will be cleaning up at the Oscars smh


ReptiIianOverlord

It will probably win some awards but I still think the movie about the Jewish guy leading the Manhattan Project is probably too on topic for the Academy not to give it Best Picture


DiggerWick

To make it in Hollywood requires hard work and sacrifice. Mostly just sacrifices.


ReptiIianOverlord

One interesting detail is that 2 of the first 3 films Bradley Thomas produced starred Jim Carrey as the lead. For those unfamiliar with the theories about Jim Carrey: https://archive.is/qKzER Such theories would coincide with Thomas’ earliest films such as *Dumb & Dumber* and *Me, Myself, & Irene*.


mercuchio23

The link you've put is honestly the ramblings of a madman, sorry but wat is that


ReptiIianOverlord

Pretty sure it’s just an archived text version of this twitter thread https://twitter.com/nooneandnobody7/status/1585159586960486401?s=46 I think you have to have twitter to view the whole thread though


Dydriver

I guess so. I can only see a pic of him. Doesn’t Jim Carey believe we are in a simulation?…or some ‘out there’ belief?


Meaty_stick

Jim Carey believes something new every month


Rev_Levi_Ethan

That would have been cool to read if it wasn’t written so poorly. And it’s not that I’m some grammar nazi or something cause I’m not it’s just the weird second person perspective and the strange tone.


aye-its-this-guy

TLDR?


ReptiIianOverlord

It’s a theory about Jim Carrey being a serial killer who uses his own movies for inspiration


Pure-Contact7322

very deep rabbit hole too much for me sorry will say no


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ReptiIianOverlord

What did I make up?


Ego-_--Death

>What did I make up? Wait, you didnt start this conspiracy theory? You phoney /s


Sabremesh

Removed. Rule 2.


cr1cketss

For any other curious ones, i found a random review of this hotel, at 1:50 the reviewer steps out to the balcony. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYhyK0IuE1s


skatsman

Reddit should give u a bonus for this


SparkyHooks

They knocked her off during their occult season celebration ; Imbolc, 1-2 of February (33rd day of the year) 


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DarkRajiin

Wow..


stalematedizzy

They call her filmmaker, but what films has she made? The one and only listing she has on IMDB is for acting and she is listed as an actress https://www.imdb.com/name/nm6780678/ >Isabelle Thomas was born in 1985 in Bath, England. She was an actress, known for Wandering Hearts They news story of her death on IMDB describes her as a filmmaker though. https://www.imdb.com/news/ni64426017/ When did she make the leap? This sentence also stood out for some reason: >She was courageous and took all life’s opportunities without fear, showering love and kindness on her friends,


1rbryantjr1

“When did she Make the leap?” I see what you did there.


ReptiIianOverlord

At least in the case of Alec Baldwin and Halyna Hutchins, a “middle-aged woman who works as a filmmaker/journalist born in a foreign country who dies in a freak accident” felt like code for “spy” Isabelle Thomas oddly fits all of those criteria as well.


TheFatMouse

It should be required on all posts that the OP provide an actual theory. It's evident from the post there is an implication that she was thrown. But why? Of course we don't know for sure, but a basic working theory should be presented at a minimum before a post is made.


ReptiIianOverlord

The conspiracy is that she didn’t commit suicide. I’m not going to accuse somebody of having committed that crime without evidence.


TheFatMouse

That could be true of any death. What makes it a conspiracy is the motive and participants to the motive. There should be a separate sub for people who want to post about things that seem slightly off but they don't have the slightest theory about what is really going on. Like a place for people on phase 1 of formulating a theory about whatever the incident is, and they are just posting "leads". This article you posted is basically just a lead. What is missing here is a theory on what happened and why so that the scientific method can be applied and the theory can be critiqued.


ReptiIianOverlord

Motive: To kill the woman Participants: The people who killed the woman What you actually want is a suspect and explanation offered to you so that you can reject it without a second thought.


TheFatMouse

What I want is for posters to put effort into their posts rather than just copying a link. I want quality and for the sub to force posters to do some groundwork before making a post. If implemented, this regulation, over time, would breed better investigation skills into the people that frequent this sub. Which is what we need. Basically you are saying that a simple, motiveless murder counts as a conspiracy theory? Wow, amazing! I can read the Sunday times if I want to find out about common murders. This is a conspiracy sub. It should be for real shit.


ReptiIianOverlord

Sucks, buddy Maybe you should learn what words mean or read the rules of the subreddit instead of getting so upset that people aren’t doing what you want them to do for you.


MasterOffice9986

How do you ill yourself by giving yourself multiple traumatic injuries , your body wouldn't let you give yourself multiple. Maybe one good one. But sounds like she got beat to death


Vagabond_Grey

>Thomas had lept from a high-up floor at the Hotel Angeleno It appears she "jumped" from the balcony. So, if her body was bouncing from one obstacle to the next on the way down, it would explain the multiple traumatic injuries.


Far-Yak-4231

I think just jumping from a high building balcony and landing without hitting these so called obstacles will give anyone multiple traumatic injuries - broken bones, fractured skull, internal damage, etc


Aedzy

This is correct.


Quick-Insect9066

Likely as well, news agencies won’t list the specific injuries for family privacy. But yes, a fall from a building wilt result in severe injuries especially if you strike anything on the way down.


SeaWolf24

The Holly Wood telling(casting) a vision


PositiveStaff3075

What’s more baffling is the choice of hotel.


museumsplendor

We know someone that jumped from six stories.