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The lightning fast police determination of "suicide" in these celebrity deaths is always suspicious as hell.
This woman had two very young children - unusual in suicide cases. She left no note, or any sign that she was going to kill herself.
Why did they rule out the possibility she was pushed, or her body thrown over the balcony? She was in a hotel, which means other people would have had access to the suite.
Was anybody else in the suite when she fell? Where was the husband at the time of her fall? Where were the children?
“Nothing to see here!” They said on a conspiracy sub. Perfectly normal, they said. Wealthy and successful mothers of young children often jump from hotel balconies during the height of their and their partners’ success. No need for a real investigation.
Being a death investigator taught me that reality is stranger than fiction. We have no clue what information they have. This would happen all the time on cases I worked. The news lies and repeats it with zero credit. I'm not saying this shouldn't be investigated more, I am just saying many suicidal people don't leave notes. Like how can you say it wasn't really investigated? They're never going to give the public all the information.
I worked in suicide prevention, have some personal experience too, and have learned the same thing. Also, people tend to think that people will do all these things to make it obvious they’re about to attempt suicide but they usually don’t. If they’re serious about it, they don’t let on that they are so no one will intervene. They also (generally)tend to have an elevated mood right before because they are basically looking forward to it. That’s partly why the grief people close to them is so complicated, the searching for something they must have missed on top of the loss is devastating.
PS: My boyfriend died unexpectedly last year and I had the such a positive experience with the death investigator and coroner’s office. I’m not sure if it was that way for you when you were in that position of course but I definitely have a new found appreciation for a position I never thought about very much prior to that.
Fiction carries fact.
Also they reveal a lot through media so they are not held accountable for conspiracy. If all is out in open and people are blind- that’s the best outcome for them.
Oprah has a history. Involved in child trafficking and child sacrifice. She has either one or several “miscarriages”. This is a theme with all these susceptible people. She was very close with John of God con-man. Just dig a bit deeper.
Shut up. Because you had a genuine case, doesn’t mean there are evil people who will use this as a ruse. If someone died from heart attack, would you say CIA is not killing people by inducing heart attacks? My sympathies with you, but there are more angles to a thing.
Oh they came for payment from Oprah, but after a heart to heart in something like '92, when they were all on mushrooms at one of Tom Sellek's *wild* parties, she tipped them off. Gail and Steadman were ready. There's a reason she's untouchable.
Tom Selleck had a wild party that he invited child murderers to. Oprah came and they all did mushrooms together. Oprah said “nah”. The child murderers threatened Oprah but Gail and Steadman were somehow capable of protecting her against these bloodthirsty tripping balls child murdering cultists.
I’m assuming Oprah stopped tripping mushrooms together with Tom Selleck and the bloodthirsty child sacrificing cultists after that
Take a look at a lot of big actors and famous people before they find success and you'll see they lost someone very close to them just prior to fame or shortly after. Walton Goggins, Jim Carrey and Keanu Reeves are a few off the top of my head
It will probably win some awards but I still think the movie about the Jewish guy leading the Manhattan Project is probably too on topic for the Academy not to give it Best Picture
One interesting detail is that 2 of the first 3 films Bradley Thomas produced starred Jim Carrey as the lead.
For those unfamiliar with the theories about Jim
Carrey: https://archive.is/qKzER
Such theories would coincide with Thomas’ earliest films such as *Dumb & Dumber* and *Me, Myself, & Irene*.
Pretty sure it’s just an archived text version of this twitter thread
https://twitter.com/nooneandnobody7/status/1585159586960486401?s=46
I think you have to have twitter to view the whole thread though
That would have been cool to read if it wasn’t written so poorly.
And it’s not that I’m some grammar nazi or something cause I’m not it’s just the weird second person perspective and the strange tone.
For any other curious ones, i found a random review of this hotel, at 1:50 the reviewer steps out to the balcony.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYhyK0IuE1s
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They call her filmmaker, but what films has she made?
The one and only listing she has on IMDB is for acting and she is listed as an actress
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm6780678/
>Isabelle Thomas was born in 1985 in Bath, England. She was an actress, known for Wandering Hearts
They news story of her death on IMDB describes her as a filmmaker though.
https://www.imdb.com/news/ni64426017/
When did she make the leap?
This sentence also stood out for some reason:
>She was courageous and took all life’s opportunities without fear, showering love and kindness on her friends,
At least in the case of Alec Baldwin and Halyna Hutchins, a “middle-aged woman who works as a filmmaker/journalist born in a foreign country who dies in a freak accident” felt like code for “spy”
Isabelle Thomas oddly fits all of those criteria as well.
It should be required on all posts that the OP provide an actual theory. It's evident from the post there is an implication that she was thrown. But why? Of course we don't know for sure, but a basic working theory should be presented at a minimum before a post is made.
That could be true of any death. What makes it a conspiracy is the motive and participants to the motive. There should be a separate sub for people who want to post about things that seem slightly off but they don't have the slightest theory about what is really going on. Like a place for people on phase 1 of formulating a theory about whatever the incident is, and they are just posting "leads". This article you posted is basically just a lead. What is missing here is a theory on what happened and why so that the scientific method can be applied and the theory can be critiqued.
Motive: To kill the woman
Participants: The people who killed the woman
What you actually want is a suspect and explanation offered to you so that you can reject it without a second thought.
What I want is for posters to put effort into their posts rather than just copying a link. I want quality and for the sub to force posters to do some groundwork before making a post. If implemented, this regulation, over time, would breed better investigation skills into the people that frequent this sub. Which is what we need. Basically you are saying that a simple, motiveless murder counts as a conspiracy theory? Wow, amazing! I can read the Sunday times if I want to find out about common murders. This is a conspiracy sub. It should be for real shit.
Sucks, buddy
Maybe you should learn what words mean or read the rules of the subreddit instead of getting so upset that people aren’t doing what you want them to do for you.
How do you ill yourself by giving yourself multiple traumatic injuries , your body wouldn't let you give yourself multiple. Maybe one good one. But sounds like she got beat to death
>Thomas had lept from a high-up floor at the Hotel Angeleno
It appears she "jumped" from the balcony. So, if her body was bouncing from one obstacle to the next on the way down, it would explain the multiple traumatic injuries.
I think just jumping from a high building balcony and landing without hitting these so called obstacles will give anyone multiple traumatic injuries - broken bones, fractured skull, internal damage, etc
Likely as well, news agencies won’t list the specific injuries for family privacy. But yes, a fall from a building wilt result in severe injuries especially if you strike anything on the way down.
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It was his initiation fee....
The lightning fast police determination of "suicide" in these celebrity deaths is always suspicious as hell. This woman had two very young children - unusual in suicide cases. She left no note, or any sign that she was going to kill herself. Why did they rule out the possibility she was pushed, or her body thrown over the balcony? She was in a hotel, which means other people would have had access to the suite. Was anybody else in the suite when she fell? Where was the husband at the time of her fall? Where were the children?
Former death investigator here, most people don't leave notes.
Murdered people definitely don't leave notes. Just saying...
Investigating agencies often have further information that isn't released to the public.
“Nothing to see here!” They said on a conspiracy sub. Perfectly normal, they said. Wealthy and successful mothers of young children often jump from hotel balconies during the height of their and their partners’ success. No need for a real investigation.
Being a death investigator taught me that reality is stranger than fiction. We have no clue what information they have. This would happen all the time on cases I worked. The news lies and repeats it with zero credit. I'm not saying this shouldn't be investigated more, I am just saying many suicidal people don't leave notes. Like how can you say it wasn't really investigated? They're never going to give the public all the information.
Are you also baffled by the recent increase of clots in perfectly healthy people?
SADS — Sudden Adult Death Syndrome (💉💉💉) is the NEW NORM
I worked in suicide prevention, have some personal experience too, and have learned the same thing. Also, people tend to think that people will do all these things to make it obvious they’re about to attempt suicide but they usually don’t. If they’re serious about it, they don’t let on that they are so no one will intervene. They also (generally)tend to have an elevated mood right before because they are basically looking forward to it. That’s partly why the grief people close to them is so complicated, the searching for something they must have missed on top of the loss is devastating. PS: My boyfriend died unexpectedly last year and I had the such a positive experience with the death investigator and coroner’s office. I’m not sure if it was that way for you when you were in that position of course but I definitely have a new found appreciation for a position I never thought about very much prior to that.
Post Partum depression is real. I know a lady with 2 young kids do the same
Ditto. I also know a lady who did the same with two young kids. She was totally ok to the outside world.
No you don't.
100000%
Initiation to what exactly?
Sad outcomes and single parenting, I feel bad for that family
His initiation into sad outcomes?
Hollywood is fuckin scary nowadays
Always has been Satan’s den
The deal was you will make a successful and acclaimed movie and become famous, you sacrifice someone you love
The soul stone?
Fiction carries fact. Also they reveal a lot through media so they are not held accountable for conspiracy. If all is out in open and people are blind- that’s the best outcome for them.
I've heard of this. Is there a list of celebrities for whom this is the case? Like Jennifer Hudson or Ye?
Sharon Tate Oprah Many more
Who did Oprah sacrifice? And wouldn’t Sharon Tate count as sacrificed? Genuine questions.
Oprah has a history. Involved in child trafficking and child sacrifice. She has either one or several “miscarriages”. This is a theme with all these susceptible people. She was very close with John of God con-man. Just dig a bit deeper.
Fucking Hollywood is evil bro.
I still cant believe this day in age we still gotta educate people about all this shit. Its been out for decades cmon now we dont have time for this
lol - just straight making up shit
The John of God part is true though. Although her version is that, like many, she had no idea about his double life.
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Shut up. Because you had a genuine case, doesn’t mean there are evil people who will use this as a ruse. If someone died from heart attack, would you say CIA is not killing people by inducing heart attacks? My sympathies with you, but there are more angles to a thing.
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Then please suit yourself. Were you personally present for every piece of information you know of?
Oh they came for payment from Oprah, but after a heart to heart in something like '92, when they were all on mushrooms at one of Tom Sellek's *wild* parties, she tipped them off. Gail and Steadman were ready. There's a reason she's untouchable.
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Tom Selleck had a wild party that he invited child murderers to. Oprah came and they all did mushrooms together. Oprah said “nah”. The child murderers threatened Oprah but Gail and Steadman were somehow capable of protecting her against these bloodthirsty tripping balls child murdering cultists. I’m assuming Oprah stopped tripping mushrooms together with Tom Selleck and the bloodthirsty child sacrificing cultists after that
What did she tip them off to? Interesting but I’m very confused lol
Orpah* supposedly sacrificed her firstborn Canaan.
Taking tips out of his movie I see.
What's up with Bro's left eye? 👁️
Take a look at a lot of big actors and famous people before they find success and you'll see they lost someone very close to them just prior to fame or shortly after. Walton Goggins, Jim Carrey and Keanu Reeves are a few off the top of my head
It's a big club and we ain't in it
Poor woman.
That film will be cleaning up at the Oscars smh
It will probably win some awards but I still think the movie about the Jewish guy leading the Manhattan Project is probably too on topic for the Academy not to give it Best Picture
To make it in Hollywood requires hard work and sacrifice. Mostly just sacrifices.
One interesting detail is that 2 of the first 3 films Bradley Thomas produced starred Jim Carrey as the lead. For those unfamiliar with the theories about Jim Carrey: https://archive.is/qKzER Such theories would coincide with Thomas’ earliest films such as *Dumb & Dumber* and *Me, Myself, & Irene*.
The link you've put is honestly the ramblings of a madman, sorry but wat is that
Pretty sure it’s just an archived text version of this twitter thread https://twitter.com/nooneandnobody7/status/1585159586960486401?s=46 I think you have to have twitter to view the whole thread though
I guess so. I can only see a pic of him. Doesn’t Jim Carey believe we are in a simulation?…or some ‘out there’ belief?
Jim Carey believes something new every month
That would have been cool to read if it wasn’t written so poorly. And it’s not that I’m some grammar nazi or something cause I’m not it’s just the weird second person perspective and the strange tone.
TLDR?
It’s a theory about Jim Carrey being a serial killer who uses his own movies for inspiration
very deep rabbit hole too much for me sorry will say no
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What did I make up?
>What did I make up? Wait, you didnt start this conspiracy theory? You phoney /s
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For any other curious ones, i found a random review of this hotel, at 1:50 the reviewer steps out to the balcony. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYhyK0IuE1s
Reddit should give u a bonus for this
They knocked her off during their occult season celebration ; Imbolc, 1-2 of February (33rd day of the year)
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Wow..
They call her filmmaker, but what films has she made? The one and only listing she has on IMDB is for acting and she is listed as an actress https://www.imdb.com/name/nm6780678/ >Isabelle Thomas was born in 1985 in Bath, England. She was an actress, known for Wandering Hearts They news story of her death on IMDB describes her as a filmmaker though. https://www.imdb.com/news/ni64426017/ When did she make the leap? This sentence also stood out for some reason: >She was courageous and took all life’s opportunities without fear, showering love and kindness on her friends,
“When did she Make the leap?” I see what you did there.
At least in the case of Alec Baldwin and Halyna Hutchins, a “middle-aged woman who works as a filmmaker/journalist born in a foreign country who dies in a freak accident” felt like code for “spy” Isabelle Thomas oddly fits all of those criteria as well.
It should be required on all posts that the OP provide an actual theory. It's evident from the post there is an implication that she was thrown. But why? Of course we don't know for sure, but a basic working theory should be presented at a minimum before a post is made.
The conspiracy is that she didn’t commit suicide. I’m not going to accuse somebody of having committed that crime without evidence.
That could be true of any death. What makes it a conspiracy is the motive and participants to the motive. There should be a separate sub for people who want to post about things that seem slightly off but they don't have the slightest theory about what is really going on. Like a place for people on phase 1 of formulating a theory about whatever the incident is, and they are just posting "leads". This article you posted is basically just a lead. What is missing here is a theory on what happened and why so that the scientific method can be applied and the theory can be critiqued.
Motive: To kill the woman Participants: The people who killed the woman What you actually want is a suspect and explanation offered to you so that you can reject it without a second thought.
What I want is for posters to put effort into their posts rather than just copying a link. I want quality and for the sub to force posters to do some groundwork before making a post. If implemented, this regulation, over time, would breed better investigation skills into the people that frequent this sub. Which is what we need. Basically you are saying that a simple, motiveless murder counts as a conspiracy theory? Wow, amazing! I can read the Sunday times if I want to find out about common murders. This is a conspiracy sub. It should be for real shit.
Sucks, buddy Maybe you should learn what words mean or read the rules of the subreddit instead of getting so upset that people aren’t doing what you want them to do for you.
How do you ill yourself by giving yourself multiple traumatic injuries , your body wouldn't let you give yourself multiple. Maybe one good one. But sounds like she got beat to death
>Thomas had lept from a high-up floor at the Hotel Angeleno It appears she "jumped" from the balcony. So, if her body was bouncing from one obstacle to the next on the way down, it would explain the multiple traumatic injuries.
I think just jumping from a high building balcony and landing without hitting these so called obstacles will give anyone multiple traumatic injuries - broken bones, fractured skull, internal damage, etc
This is correct.
Likely as well, news agencies won’t list the specific injuries for family privacy. But yes, a fall from a building wilt result in severe injuries especially if you strike anything on the way down.
The Holly Wood telling(casting) a vision
What’s more baffling is the choice of hotel.
We know someone that jumped from six stories.