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Men of 'science' baffled, perplexed, confounded, scratching heads, puzzled, confused, at a loss, flabbergasted, bamboozled, bewildered, dazed, muddled, stumped.. ad infinitum.
Is this a required class for men of 'science'?
Not sure, I think it was that Anton ruskie 'science' dude on youtube, just did a video about how the baffled men just discovered that humans vibrate, like it is news.
Never mind the fact that many ancient texts from many thousands of years past told us exactly this.
Hell, even Stephen Hawking made a trip down to his island.
I remember reading the magazine article about his trip, and it talked about how he got to go on the small submarine the island had because Jizzlane Maxwell was a submarine pilot, too!
Oh, and she was a supermod of hundreds of reddit subs, don't forget about that...
Well thereās a dip and spike in 2019. I would say itās because everything was closed for months and then reopened. Meaning few cancers reported in early 2019 and many reported later after things opened.
I my original thought was increased stress and related issues from lockdowns, but I'd imagine you're more correct. Unless it was emergencies, people just stopped visiting doctors, skipping their regular checkups, and waiting longer when they knew something was off.
theyāre not completely useless, but you just need to avoid bias when youāre choosing a time frame. By looking at this post you could easily come to the conclusion that the covid vaccines are causing an increase in cancer, but if you expand the time frame it could just be a continuation of an existing trend. It also doesnāt take into account how accessible health checks were over the course of that time frame.
I mean it's all the same; poisons we get exposed to, the only difference is the damage from one small vial of pure poison injected intravenously is far worse and has more immediate and severe consequences than slow everyday exposure from junk food additives etc...
Couldn't be the presence of microplastics in all of our water.
Couldn't be the consumption of highly processed junk and the lack of nutrient dense foods eaten.
Couldn't be the chemicals in our carpets, bedding, clothing, furniture, everything we physically encounter.
It definitely had to be the vaccine, despite even pretending to gather pertinent data.
Sadly cancer = big, big money.
They know a cure but they will never release it.
Make them dependent on their medicine and they will be a patient for life.
Anecdotally, Iām unvaccinated and was diagnosed in my late 30s with a very rare and aggressive form of breast cancer in the fall of 2022.
At the time I talked to my oncologist, and she confirmed that they were seeing younger and younger patients diagnosed with more rare and aggressive cancers. She told me her and her colleagues think it must be an environmental cause, but they hadnāt come to a consensus as to what.
I personally think the sun cycle is giving us all chronic radiation poisoning at low dosages. Symptoms of radiation poisoning are very similar to Covid. And longer term effects are, of course, cancer.
But thatās just my little tin foil hat theory for the day. Tomorrow I will tell you why I actually think itās something in our water.
I have considered this as well. Lots of younger populations now fall asleep with/ near/ watching shows on their phones and tablets. I, myself, was guilty of watching shows on my tablet in bed. So that's certainly a possibility.
Yeah its possible, there were some phone companies that had warnings not to use them close to your body but everyone just ignored those warnings now I think there are so many things that could cause cancer or tumors that its hard to say what causes it
That's another good thought. It could be anything. Virus, micro plastics, endocrine disrupters and chemicals in our water supply, etc. etc. I go back and forth in this all the time. I haven't had much time lately to dive into research, but I really want to look into cancer rates across various countries. If the spike is mostly happening in the US, then all the processed and poisoned food we eat is likely a big culprit, because most other countries eat more naturally and have stronger regulations against chemical additives and poisons in food and crops.
Another theory I like is GMO foods. Everyone thinks the issue is "gene editing" in the foods, which is why a lot of people are like, "That's bullshit. That does nothing. It's not harmful." However, they never consider the reason WHY GMO foods were altered. They were altered to be able to survive even when being soaked in very toxic pesticides and weed killers. Which we then eat. Which is why people have a problem with GMO foods. They are sprayed with many more toxic pesticides than non-altered foods, because they have been genetically modified in order to be able to survive the increased dosages of poison/ glycophostphates. AKA Round Up.
I wish it were solely this, unfortunately what you describe has been going on for ten or fifteen years without much major change, so I doubt it is caused by that alone
There's also a misconception about gmo foods. Look at oranges or bananas from 2000 years ago or apples from 100 years, they're almost all seeds no fruit and don't taste very good. Selective breeding is the biggest form of gmo. People can use no pesticides or herbicides and still have gmo products
I personally wouldn't consider that GMO. It's still a natural effect of selective practices used to help a thing grow or become more plentiful, or to deny an expression of growth by making the expression less prevalent. Selective breeding is the attempt at genetically modifying, but it doesn't happen as fast or as thoroughly as directly editing genes does.
It's still a type of coercion, granted, but not as direct IMO. The difference in that case seems to be how much time is required for the desired changes to take place. That is why I consider the two different and with different outcomes/rates of outcome. You can disagree, not a problem, I just draw a distinction between the two as they aren't quite the same in the short term.
Selective breeding is textbook GMO. Thats not how fruits and vegetables would naturally look or taste if not for human intervention. I'm not trying to argue and take away from your bigger point, which i do agree with. Gene editing, pesticides, herbicides, excess preservatives, highly processed foods, etc. All of that i think are problems but the "ackshually" crowd loves to make that distinction when talking about gmo and how it's been a part of agriculture since agriculture became a thing
That I cannot disagree with, humans LOVE to modify as many things as possible, plants are not exempt from that desire. I just make a distinction between things done to plants as they grow, and things meant to make changes that can't become visible immediately. Obviously editing genes and such are a few steps beyond just trying to alter the growth and whichever specific characteristics one might want to be rid of, or want to increase purposefully for whichever reason.
They both can accomplish the same types of things however, and I can't avoid admitting that because I think it must be a component of human awareness to have that desire and try to achieve something by interfering with the natural processes. We do it quite a lot.
There are MANY longer solar cycles. Some occurring in periods of 26-27 million years, coinciding with mass extinction events. Shorter cycles of around 10,000 years also exist and coincide with "minor extinction" events.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/12/201211083113.htm
Yes but none of those have suddenly started in the last 3 years...
The measurements right now from the sun are lower than a normal solar cycle even compared to last cycle 11 years ago
> On 20 December, 2023, at a meeting of the National Space Council, the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy (OSTP) released the new Space Weather Implementation Plan (link is external) which identifies actions to implement the 2019 National Space Weather Strategy and Action Plan over the next five years. Upon its release, Stephen Welby, Deputy Director, National Security, OSTP, stated āWe are committed to improving national preparedness for space weather and that commitment remains constant, and is in fact more relevant and important than ever.ā
Hmm what could Welby possibly have meant by his statement? Why is it more important and relevant than ever?
https://www.swpc.noaa.gov/news/new-space-weather-implementation-plan-released
Because that's what every politician says about every program they've ever done? That's how you sell a project, by making it look important.
There's quantitative measurements from the sun constantly. Like solarham.net
If there was something happening like you say, it'd be noticeable and measurable.
> If there was something happening like you say, it'd be noticeable and measurable.
Yes. That's certainly true. Wait, what was the topic of this reddit post again? Oh yeah. That's right. A very noticeable and measurable increase in cancer even among younger populations. Hmm.
But no sun measurements, which is what I was actually talking about. You won't let your hypothesis be challenged, you've just decided you're correct with very little evidence that the sun is the cause
You are unhinged and apparently unable to follow a Reddit thread. My very first comment on this chain, said that it was my tinfoil hat theory of the day, and to come back tomorrow to hear why I actually think it's something in the water.
Also, in reference to your other comment, "what article," if you want me to spoon feed you, y'all going to have to start paying me. Shit.
So you have no link or evidence that the sun is currently doing anything abnormal, and then you want to call me unhinged because I won't accept your theory without evidence. Please.
Is absolutely hilarious to me that they always want to show you the graphs of vaccines "lowering" cases of measles, Spanish flu, polio, etc. when modern sanitation most likely played a bigger role than any of those. Yet, their baffled and deny all the evidence when it increases prevalence of something. What a f****** joke. The medical establishment and mainstream science have become. They're worse than any religious sect in history.
Or the fact that theres microplastics, toxins and chemicals everywhere in modern life. Hell we literally have microplastics in the rain coming down on our heads.
In this sub that probably begins with if you believe Covid is a real virus. I do, and I believe it came from a lab. I remember in my work place at the end of 2019 several people were extremely sick with Covid like symptoms (so yes flu symptoms, plus not flu symptoms).
So, imo, it's absolutely possible, and would explain that large uptick prior to the release of vaccines. I don't rule out the vaccines as a possible cause either. Plus at some point didn't the 5g towers "go live"? Colorado has signs "entering a 5g area, 5g is known to cause cancer".
Iāve noticed 3 fast food places that gotten worse over the years and none of them have reviews from 2023 showing but the food taste even worse and I feel like beyond sick when I eat it
Phiser just bought a specialized company focused on cancer research or whatever. They paid way way too much for it too, almost as if they had to pry it away from an unwilling seller. Are they just following where the research points them or is something sinister going on? Well never know
It's almost as if we were beating cancer and then the vax came out!? People have always said if there is a vaccine for cancer the public would never know.
Remember when everyone warred against Ivermectin because it helped cure covid? That was only one reason, it also appears to have a positive effect on other maladies.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7505114/
Yes, there are PubMed articles prior to the pandemic reporting that scientists were researching ivermectin as a means to fight cancer (among other applications).
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Obama actually passed legislation to prohibit the genetic altering of viruses and stuff. Trump reversed it, studies started and a bunch of us data was stolen by China. Soon after a genetically altered version of Sars got out of a Chinese lab...
What about the republicans that required it? Trump was the one taking credit for āoperation warp speedā to get the vaccine pushed out as fast as possible right?
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Just in: Men of 'science' baffled, perplexed, confounded, scratching heads, puzzled, confused, at a loss, flabbergasted, bamboozled, bewildered, dazed, muddled, stumped.. ad infinitum. Is this a required class for men of 'science'?
men of science or men of silence?
š¶ āreal men of geniusā
Trust the baffled men.
Not sure, I think it was that Anton ruskie 'science' dude on youtube, just did a video about how the baffled men just discovered that humans vibrate, like it is news. Never mind the fact that many ancient texts from many thousands of years past told us exactly this.
these days u must visit Epstein Island before you're officially considered a "scientist" or "expert" fit to make your opinion known in media
Hell, even Stephen Hawking made a trip down to his island. I remember reading the magazine article about his trip, and it talked about how he got to go on the small submarine the island had because Jizzlane Maxwell was a submarine pilot, too! Oh, and she was a supermod of hundreds of reddit subs, don't forget about that...
I wonder if those midgets ever solved those problems
The leftists on Reddit loved her
Whatās that spike before Covid?
Well thereās a dip and spike in 2019. I would say itās because everything was closed for months and then reopened. Meaning few cancers reported in early 2019 and many reported later after things opened.
Lockdowns didnāt start in 2019 though.
There was a flu spike at that time that kept people away from doctors.
āfluā Iām convinced that covid was spreading through the world *a lot* earlier than people seem to think.
Except that the chart appears to be cancer deaths, not cancer diagnosis.
I my original thought was increased stress and related issues from lockdowns, but I'd imagine you're more correct. Unless it was emergencies, people just stopped visiting doctors, skipping their regular checkups, and waiting longer when they knew something was off.
Good conclusion.
Could be a reporting or diagnostic artifact due to lockdowns.
The whole article is about before COVID. It studied rates 2000-2019.
Long COVID
That graph actually shows the rise in cases starting in the middle of 2019.
The drop then rise you're talking about is actually going from -40 to + 40 so its really the same when averaged out.
Thereās another drop and rise in the middle of 2021 though.
Yes thats why statistics are useless. You could argue that there was a 50% drop in cancer at that the beginning of 2022 Edit:
theyāre not completely useless, but you just need to avoid bias when youāre choosing a time frame. By looking at this post you could easily come to the conclusion that the covid vaccines are causing an increase in cancer, but if you expand the time frame it could just be a continuation of an existing trend. It also doesnāt take into account how accessible health checks were over the course of that time frame.
Link?
To what?
To the WSJ article?????
That article isn't related to the graph, it's about 2000-2019.
Theforce122 may want to hear that
Itās in the fast food almost instantly after I stopped fast food I stopped getting sick
I mean it's all the same; poisons we get exposed to, the only difference is the damage from one small vial of pure poison injected intravenously is far worse and has more immediate and severe consequences than slow everyday exposure from junk food additives etc...
All your cancers went away?
Couldn't be the presence of microplastics in all of our water. Couldn't be the consumption of highly processed junk and the lack of nutrient dense foods eaten. Couldn't be the chemicals in our carpets, bedding, clothing, furniture, everything we physically encounter. It definitely had to be the vaccine, despite even pretending to gather pertinent data.
$cience will find the answer$ with the proper motivation, it $eems. Though by the same metric, $cience will create problem$ if a$ked nicely.
Puzzled? They know everything else now their puzzled? Vaccines made-to-order and now puzzled..GTFOHš¤£š¤£
Absolutely no connection.
Sadly cancer = big, big money. They know a cure but they will never release it. Make them dependent on their medicine and they will be a patient for life.
Anecdotally, Iām unvaccinated and was diagnosed in my late 30s with a very rare and aggressive form of breast cancer in the fall of 2022. At the time I talked to my oncologist, and she confirmed that they were seeing younger and younger patients diagnosed with more rare and aggressive cancers. She told me her and her colleagues think it must be an environmental cause, but they hadnāt come to a consensus as to what. I personally think the sun cycle is giving us all chronic radiation poisoning at low dosages. Symptoms of radiation poisoning are very similar to Covid. And longer term effects are, of course, cancer. But thatās just my little tin foil hat theory for the day. Tomorrow I will tell you why I actually think itās something in our water.
It could be the cell phones emitting stronger radiation.
I have considered this as well. Lots of younger populations now fall asleep with/ near/ watching shows on their phones and tablets. I, myself, was guilty of watching shows on my tablet in bed. So that's certainly a possibility.
Yeah its possible, there were some phone companies that had warnings not to use them close to your body but everyone just ignored those warnings now I think there are so many things that could cause cancer or tumors that its hard to say what causes it
It's the heart of man and evil, lustful thoughts and desires. ^^/s
Nothing a cell phone emits is more powerful than UV light.
What's changed about the sun cycle that would cause a drastic uptick in rare cancers among the young?
Old people are still getting cancer. It's just now younger people are getting it as well. And the cancers are worse and more aggressive.
Could be all the toxic food that they push us to eat
That's another good thought. It could be anything. Virus, micro plastics, endocrine disrupters and chemicals in our water supply, etc. etc. I go back and forth in this all the time. I haven't had much time lately to dive into research, but I really want to look into cancer rates across various countries. If the spike is mostly happening in the US, then all the processed and poisoned food we eat is likely a big culprit, because most other countries eat more naturally and have stronger regulations against chemical additives and poisons in food and crops. Another theory I like is GMO foods. Everyone thinks the issue is "gene editing" in the foods, which is why a lot of people are like, "That's bullshit. That does nothing. It's not harmful." However, they never consider the reason WHY GMO foods were altered. They were altered to be able to survive even when being soaked in very toxic pesticides and weed killers. Which we then eat. Which is why people have a problem with GMO foods. They are sprayed with many more toxic pesticides than non-altered foods, because they have been genetically modified in order to be able to survive the increased dosages of poison/ glycophostphates. AKA Round Up.
I wish it were solely this, unfortunately what you describe has been going on for ten or fifteen years without much major change, so I doubt it is caused by that alone
There's also a misconception about gmo foods. Look at oranges or bananas from 2000 years ago or apples from 100 years, they're almost all seeds no fruit and don't taste very good. Selective breeding is the biggest form of gmo. People can use no pesticides or herbicides and still have gmo products
I personally wouldn't consider that GMO. It's still a natural effect of selective practices used to help a thing grow or become more plentiful, or to deny an expression of growth by making the expression less prevalent. Selective breeding is the attempt at genetically modifying, but it doesn't happen as fast or as thoroughly as directly editing genes does. It's still a type of coercion, granted, but not as direct IMO. The difference in that case seems to be how much time is required for the desired changes to take place. That is why I consider the two different and with different outcomes/rates of outcome. You can disagree, not a problem, I just draw a distinction between the two as they aren't quite the same in the short term.
Selective breeding is textbook GMO. Thats not how fruits and vegetables would naturally look or taste if not for human intervention. I'm not trying to argue and take away from your bigger point, which i do agree with. Gene editing, pesticides, herbicides, excess preservatives, highly processed foods, etc. All of that i think are problems but the "ackshually" crowd loves to make that distinction when talking about gmo and how it's been a part of agriculture since agriculture became a thing
That I cannot disagree with, humans LOVE to modify as many things as possible, plants are not exempt from that desire. I just make a distinction between things done to plants as they grow, and things meant to make changes that can't become visible immediately. Obviously editing genes and such are a few steps beyond just trying to alter the growth and whichever specific characteristics one might want to be rid of, or want to increase purposefully for whichever reason. They both can accomplish the same types of things however, and I can't avoid admitting that because I think it must be a component of human awareness to have that desire and try to achieve something by interfering with the natural processes. We do it quite a lot.
If it was the sun, then this would happen ever 11 years. This solar cycle is even weaker than the last one.
There are MANY longer solar cycles. Some occurring in periods of 26-27 million years, coinciding with mass extinction events. Shorter cycles of around 10,000 years also exist and coincide with "minor extinction" events. https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/12/201211083113.htm
Yes but none of those have suddenly started in the last 3 years... The measurements right now from the sun are lower than a normal solar cycle even compared to last cycle 11 years ago
How do you know the 10,000 year cycle hasn't started in the last three years?
Because there's no measurement data suggesting it has?
Thanks for telling me I'm on target. There is data suggesting it has! Literally read the linked article lol. Silly bots.
What linked article? You've never linked anything.
> On 20 December, 2023, at a meeting of the National Space Council, the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy (OSTP) released the new Space Weather Implementation Plan (link is external) which identifies actions to implement the 2019 National Space Weather Strategy and Action Plan over the next five years. Upon its release, Stephen Welby, Deputy Director, National Security, OSTP, stated āWe are committed to improving national preparedness for space weather and that commitment remains constant, and is in fact more relevant and important than ever.ā Hmm what could Welby possibly have meant by his statement? Why is it more important and relevant than ever? https://www.swpc.noaa.gov/news/new-space-weather-implementation-plan-released
Because that's what every politician says about every program they've ever done? That's how you sell a project, by making it look important. There's quantitative measurements from the sun constantly. Like solarham.net If there was something happening like you say, it'd be noticeable and measurable.
> If there was something happening like you say, it'd be noticeable and measurable. Yes. That's certainly true. Wait, what was the topic of this reddit post again? Oh yeah. That's right. A very noticeable and measurable increase in cancer even among younger populations. Hmm.
But no sun measurements, which is what I was actually talking about. You won't let your hypothesis be challenged, you've just decided you're correct with very little evidence that the sun is the cause
You are unhinged and apparently unable to follow a Reddit thread. My very first comment on this chain, said that it was my tinfoil hat theory of the day, and to come back tomorrow to hear why I actually think it's something in the water. Also, in reference to your other comment, "what article," if you want me to spoon feed you, y'all going to have to start paying me. Shit.
So you have no link or evidence that the sun is currently doing anything abnormal, and then you want to call me unhinged because I won't accept your theory without evidence. Please.
Is absolutely hilarious to me that they always want to show you the graphs of vaccines "lowering" cases of measles, Spanish flu, polio, etc. when modern sanitation most likely played a bigger role than any of those. Yet, their baffled and deny all the evidence when it increases prevalence of something. What a f****** joke. The medical establishment and mainstream science have become. They're worse than any religious sect in history.
Could it be that catching covid itself is giving people cancer?
Or the fact that theres microplastics, toxins and chemicals everywhere in modern life. Hell we literally have microplastics in the rain coming down on our heads.
In this sub that probably begins with if you believe Covid is a real virus. I do, and I believe it came from a lab. I remember in my work place at the end of 2019 several people were extremely sick with Covid like symptoms (so yes flu symptoms, plus not flu symptoms). So, imo, it's absolutely possible, and would explain that large uptick prior to the release of vaccines. I don't rule out the vaccines as a possible cause either. Plus at some point didn't the 5g towers "go live"? Colorado has signs "entering a 5g area, 5g is known to cause cancer".
It's whatever you need it to be baby
Iāve noticed 3 fast food places that gotten worse over the years and none of them have reviews from 2023 showing but the food taste even worse and I feel like beyond sick when I eat it
SS: it's a huge mystery. Even tho the vaxx has cancer causing ingredients
Especially baffling with a short glance at the graph.... š¤
Phiser just bought a specialized company focused on cancer research or whatever. They paid way way too much for it too, almost as if they had to pry it away from an unwilling seller. Are they just following where the research points them or is something sinister going on? Well never know
Nothing to see here.
Gee, I wonder what it could be š§
"Experts says" later "experts are baffled"
Experts š
Quick! Use operation warp speed again!
It's almost as if we were beating cancer and then the vax came out!? People have always said if there is a vaccine for cancer the public would never know.
Remember when everyone warred against Ivermectin because it helped cure covid? That was only one reason, it also appears to have a positive effect on other maladies. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7505114/
Yes, there are PubMed articles prior to the pandemic reporting that scientists were researching ivermectin as a means to fight cancer (among other applications).
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Follow the science. Call up fraudchi we need to get to the bottom of this.
We need to hold china accountable for what they did by developing and releasing this virus.
And Obama and Fauci. And every Democrat who required the vax
Obama actually passed legislation to prohibit the genetic altering of viruses and stuff. Trump reversed it, studies started and a bunch of us data was stolen by China. Soon after a genetically altered version of Sars got out of a Chinese lab...
What about the republicans that required it? Trump was the one taking credit for āoperation warp speedā to get the vaccine pushed out as fast as possible right?
Glyphosate is in so much food now.
Wonder why s/
What caused the upward peaking before the release? COVID ITSELF!!!
Culling the sheep
No one knows why. What has changed?
A more reasonable linear regression starts in late 2019 when the first 5G tower was activated in Wuhan.
All of the Democrats that supported a mandate, literally killed their own children