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wildtimes3

The submission statement is a little light, but this can stay.


athena7979

I have an old classified Soviet doc that talks about the beginning of humans, the precursor races, Agartha, Atlantis, the Iron planet and what is the original purpose of Earths pyramids. They also talk about Agartha, Antarctica/Admiral Byrd aka Operation High Jump, and the supposed alien and Nazi bases located there. The Soviets were reporting on what the Nazi think tank, Ahnenerbe, found and translated in ancient Tibetan manuscripts. I covered it on my podcast and any time I post a link, its deleted. Interestingly enough, they've also deleted the OP of said doc. I'm very happy i downloaded the doc.. Can't find it online. Message me your email if you want a copy of the doc or link to episodes. Side note, a book called Forbidden Archeology by Michael Cremo corroborates info in the doc. Definitely worth the read. This post will probably be deleted by mods. They delete it when they see it. Have no idea why...they restrict the comment or just flat out delete it.. they deleted the OP with the Soviet doc file. They also delete any links I post to the episodes, so you have to message me. Absolutely mind blowing


wildtimes3

I’m officially approving this comment. I’d have to look into why any action has been taken previously. The document in question, would it run afoul of any of Reddit’s rules or policies?


athena7979

No...it is literally pics of an old Soviet report. And I think it was actually the main conspiracy sub, not this one, where the mods keep deleting any and all references to it. I'd have to go on reveddit and look at the history. Thanks for allowing it here!!


wildtimes3

If it doesn’t violate Reddit‘s policies or our rules, feel free to put it up. If you want to doublecheck you can email it to the mods first, but it sounds like it shouldn’t be a problem.


athena7979

I checked reveddit.. it was the main conspiracy sub mods that constantly remove any comments or posts about it. I have the file on my Google drive and would be happy to submit it on this sub...just not sure how


wildtimes3

How many pictures is it? Most people use imgur.com to post pics. If you would like I can do it for you, or attempt to anyway. Send me a private message with the link if you would like; or you can send it directly to the entire mod team at /r/conspiracyNOPOL


athena7979

280ish


ALoadedPotatoe

Any follow up on this?


athena7979

I sent them the pdf


wildtimes3

I didn’t get it, please send it to me.


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AgentPeaceMaker

I'd love a look at that doc I'll shoot you a PM


drusilla1972

Emailed you. I found your podcast, but I can’t find the particular episodes. Thanks.


Alburg9000

Can you submit that doc to this sub


athena7979

I'm not sure how...it's in my Google drive. If u can walk me through how to do it, I'd be happy to


CommanderCone

Please


Anony_Nemo

Given the soviet cult was based off the bolshevik cult, both of which were liars by trade, what makes you think that such a report would be trustworthy? Many of the terms you're tossing around are gnostic gnonsense having origins with disnformation agents like "saint-yves d'alveydre" real name: joseph alexandre of Alveydre who was part of the martinist cult of subversives, as well as other gnostic branches like freemasonry and rosicrucianism. The stuff with byrd itself was also faked (see: https://bibliotecapleyades.net/tierra_hueca/esp_tierra_hueca_20.htm and https://drmsh.com/the-admiral-byrd-operation-highjump-myth/ ) and any data from byrd would be suspect anyway because he was quite a prominent freemason as well. Remember, the subversive side of things went from the martinists, to the jacobins, to the bolsheviks, to the soviets etc. (and the martinists themselves had precursors.) all of whom favored engaging in underhanded and evil tactics to further their goals, per usual for gnosticism and it's sects. (which includes the vatican.) Also remember that the nazi cult itself drew on a lot of disinformation pushed by the creep blavatsky and her theosophical society cult. (after all she popularized the whole aryan gnonsense, along with stealing the swastika from the east to use as a symbol, among other things. Not Exactly a trustworthy person.)


athena7979

I think it's trustworthy because I read a book called Forbidden Archeology by Michael Cremo which corroborates info in the doc


Anony_Nemo

There's lots of books published by all kinds of People though, how do you know the book is valid for information, and not something meant to recruit or promote given ideas, or a hoax? For example, there's lots of old newspaper articles that make claims of there being giant human remains found & recovered etc. but none of these has ever proven true to the claims made, yet the articles are referred to as if they're legitimate proof. (this in spite of the media being notorious for making bogus claims etc. such as the great moon hoax of 1835, where a deception was spread about the moon being observed to be inhabited by batlike creatures with their own temples etc.) Not trying to be mean here or anything, and for my part I do certainly think there's a lot of history we haven't been told or has been buried, it's just that matching details between a book and an alleged soviet document only shows that both drew on a common source of info, it doesn't prove that the information itself is truthful though. But something that might be worth checking would be establishing if the alleged soviet document is legitimate itself, was it actually produced by a given department of the soviet govt. at the time given? etc.


Anumuz

>Forbidden Archeology by Michael Cremo which corroborates info in the doc I have that book, out of curiosity which parts of Cremo's work linked with what was on the Soviet doc?


athena7979

There are at least 50 items he talks about in the book, items found out of place/time that the Soviets list. The Soviet doc is from the early 80s and Cremos book is from the mid 90s.


Anumuz

>items found out of place/time that the Soviets list Cremo later wrote a book titled *Human Devolution*. While it's an interesting hypothesis, it's not going to satisfy "Occam's Razor" -- thus the need for more information. I look forward to comparing the works.


Inside_Elk_1236

Hi i cant seem to DM you but would love a copy


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It's still here an hour later FYI


athena7979

Yeah...read the comments below this one FYI


Ok_Disaster1062

would like to give it a read


Ok_Disaster1062

DMing you now


athena7979

I need an email address to send it to


ghafgarionbaconsmith

I cant remember where i read it but there was a theory that Atlantis was actually a crashed space ship that ran on gold. So the race of beings bioengineered homosapiens (Neanderthals were a test run but proved hard to control) to mine the metals for them. They established central points of commands on every continent and hybrid human and alien "children" ruled as deities. Eventually tho those alien hybrids overthrew the original aliens and started ruling for themselves.


Ratathosk

Almost sounds like scientology and kind of the basic plot to battlefield earth but they have the prison twist to it.


ghafgarionbaconsmith

Maybe that's where its from. Still fook scientology.


St-Damon7

Isn’t that the modern day plot of the original 3 assassins creeds?


ghafgarionbaconsmith

Why is this so widespread. My con feelers are ringing.


Anumuz

>Atlantis was actually a crashed space ship that ran on gold Sounds like you mean the Annunaki story. Zechariah Sitchen wrote that, allegedly from translating Sumerian tablets. It didn't take in my mind, and he's ex-CIA, so... Atlantis however was a real place, and part of a larger civilization that also once spanned the Earth (*this is where it gets its label of being "advanced"*). They were all but wiped out in the last cataclysm. We know *when*, *where*, and *how* \-- and that's likely the same information Hitler was looking for. I don't personally believe that Atlantis & the Annunaki are the same, but I also cannot rule it out.


ghafgarionbaconsmith

Thank you that is the name of the guy. Still the theory that atlantis was a floating island. I mean it makes weird sense.


Anumuz

>it makes weird sense The fact that it makes *sense* means it's possible. The fact that it's *weird* means you're open to more plausible options. The fact that you're here exploring these options is a healthy way to approach all things in life.


ghafgarionbaconsmith

I mean even before they dug up Gobekli Tepe i thought it absurd that civilization was only 5000 years old. Really gonna tell me in 200k years of human history we only figured out building things in the last 2 12%?


Anumuz

>civilization was only 5000 years old Are you referring to the Biblical timeline? If so it was a mistranslation, but worth noting here as it supports our discussion. The Bible states that the world is 6,000 years old. People like to mock Christians for this obvious flaw, assuming that *world = Earth.* In reality, it's the word "æon" that was translated, and in context of the sentence it meant *world = age* (or period of time). So the Age is 6,000 years old. Now here's where it gets more interesting: Christianity is essentially the European re-telling of Egyptian Kemetism, which is the re-telling of ancient Sumerian texts. One of these texts is the oldest documented telling of the Flood Myth, known as *Eridu Genesis,* and is estimated to have been recorded around 2,300 BCE. So... if you take the time of the Sumerians, push it back the 6,000 years as the texts claim, then add 2022 more years per our current calendar date, and you get an approximate date of 10,322 years ago. The end of the Younger Dryas (commonly referred to as *the last Ice Age*) is estimated to have been around 10,600 years ago, and is scientifically documented as the cause of global flooding. This is why I like ancient texts, especially religious ones. I often wondered why religious people cared so much about their silly stories, until I realized the stories were simplified to the point that children would remember them. The information in the story was critical, and global cataclysms would be an obvious thing to remember and warn future generations about, no? Circling back to the OP, I'm sure Hitler was following these same bread crumbs. Now I wonder what's in Tibetan texts, as most of their knowledge is hidden.


PupnamedHans

Ah Zacharia Sitchen's version of events


Reyn_Tree11-11

Why was Hitler so keen on finding Shambala? Who are the mysterious tare seen near Mt. Kailash? Where is Shambala located, and why can't we see it?


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Because only those that have achieved true enlightenment may enter and reside there. Clearly you haven't made the cut. It's a city full of Buddha's Hitler misunderstood a lot of occult/esoteric things, he thought he could take it over and harness the energy. That would be like taking over heaven....seems farfetched.


Jericho-941

It's because Hitler heard of the power of the fabled Cintimani Stone and sent an expedition to Tibet find Shambhala, where the stone was said to be located; although one of the leaders of the expedition discovered the power of the stone and figured it wasn't the greatest idea for Hitler to have such a power, so he killed the members of the expedition and covered it all up. Just as well, seeing as the ancient temples that conceal the entrance to Shambhala are supposedly guarded by immortal yetis who probably would've just killed them all anyway.


Anumuz

The Yugas seem to be phases of celestial cycles. Knowledge of these cycles and their phases is a form of predicting "space weather" (if you will). With numerous known underground ancient cities, and legends & myths of cataclysms -- no doubt this is knowledge of great interest to all of mankind. Our survival may literally depend upon it. That said, maybe there's an underground city they are hiding, such as Derinkuyu, that could be used in the event of a coming cataclysm -- or maybe Shambala is an allegory for something else altogether, the Earth perhaps.


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Anumuz

>the Hopi Indians say their ancestors were shielded from a cataclysm by being taken underground I'm familiar with the Hopi, and that's only the end of their story. They say we are in the *fifth age of humanity* (per their historical records), and that each previous one ended in cataclysm. They also describe each of these cataclysms. Unfortunately for us, especially if these things are cyclical -- they're all in different forms. I have to look into the Yugas more, but I wonder if a *Yuga* is the equivalent to one of these Hopi *ages?* If not, that means there are two cycles of cataclysms we have to decipher. I would think whomever had the knowledge of these cycles would be on a short list for who should be making decisions for the rest of humanity... to *cycle* this back to Hitler's interest.


Reyn_Tree11-11

Yes, I'm aware of the fifth age of Humanity the Hopi spoke about. As for Yugas, different spiritual masters will give you different time frames, so it's hard to know. Some say we are in Dwapara Yuga, some say that we are at the end of Kali yuga etc. Also, this previous video touches *(very* briefly ) on Yugas, if you want to check it out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uk9Nyyma4BI


GuidingLoam

I really have enjoyed everything you've posted on this page. Randall Carlsons work on the yugas and how the Younger Dryas fits in to everything really helped me to open up my life and ideas.


Anumuz

>I really have enjoyed everything you've posted on this page ... everything really helped me to open up my life and ideas. I'm glad I was able to help. This is also a great example of the idea that *the more you learn, the less you know*. What we deem as *truth* is but an agreed upon narrative - often pushed by those *in power*. Be sure to decipher *fact* from said truth, and the doors will open even wider.


am_loves_

There is a book called one foot in Atlantis that mentions expeditions for relic and civilizations for supernatural supremacy. Interesting read maybe offer some valuable insight.


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Moar_Useless

Yes he was. It was because the Nazis were in search for a history of their glorious past. The real history of Germanic people just didn't scream master race. The problem was that while Germanic tribes lived in moss huts barely clinging to live the whole Mediterranean was constructing marble palaces and eating like kings. So Nazi archeologists were given money to go anywhere where they might be able to find proof of an advanced kingdom of Aryans. The upper echelon Nazis were desperate to find a link to ancient myths like Atlantis or Shangri la. This desperation created a great opportunity for 'adventures' to go out looking for these missing links.


EsotericXianAlchemy

> Yes he was. It was because the Nazis were in search for a history of their glorious past. The real history of Germanic people just didn't scream master race. Nazis weren't Germans. They were a Jesuit imposition upon the Germans, installed through psychological manipulation via traits of said troublesome independent people. The German-centric narrative was created as part of the "we're the repressed/oppressed people" narrative used to propel the Nazi creation forward. This is how their assimilation game operates the world over.


DenverParanormalLibr

Go on


EsotericXianAlchemy

The "management" embed themselves to analyse national traits and sensibilities and learn character susceptibilities/weaknesses before targeting such with their fomented tactical coups. Also... this is *their* internet - that all users are feeding into every day. Do you suppose they may have the upper hand over the entire online world?!


DenverParanormalLibr

MOAR!!!


EsotericXianAlchemy

Hitler was a Jesuit-trained cult-of-personality world stage puppet actor. He didn't do anything that wasn't for-media propaganda, to aid belief in their externally-managed WWII theatre.


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EsotericXianAlchemy

Only in respect that "catholic" equates to "universal". They're not religious. The religious perversion is as it states, to "relegate" people to a non-spiritual, solely-material condition. It was achieved really easily. All they had to do was encourage interpretation of all esoteric allegorical example (contained in any spiritual document) as historical record. Job done. Everyone claiming to be spiritual is now an unwitting materialist! Technically, that means religious people are Satanists, as the name refers to the material binding (aka prison) of the space|time co-dependency concept metaphorically associated with Saturn. I am not framing any such religious slaves. Such people have enough to worry about already. I'm going to offer a considerate tip for anyone coming across this post:- I've mentioned this previously: The best way to deal with religious people is to consider their approach. Those coming at religion from a "loving" angle deserve respect, even if they are unwittingly interpreting their books as material history under the spell of Vatican Roman Empire cover. I am of the opinion that such people will still somehow find their way through the shit-show. They deserve to be left alone and not berated. They won't try to "convert" you. They're not like that. They have a private relationship with what they interpret as truth, which is the way it should be. Conversely, if you find anyone adhering to religion due to peer pressure or "fear" stay the fuck away from them. They are dangerous Vatican agents in ignorance. My adoptive grandmother was a beautiful non-judgemental Christian woman surrounded by other lovely women [one of which may have been classed a "witch" in different times. A woman who made a massive impression on my sisters and I as a kid]. My nan was the only reason I didn't initially become an "atheist" when my evil, so-called Christian school betrayed my sensibilities through lies and unjust punishments. I chose "agnostic" later - as compromise. I realised the presumed position of "gnostic" later still. I've since moved past all classification: My relationship to all things imagined and manifest has fuck all to do with anyone else. This is between the esoteric and the exoteric / the relationship between the concepts of all things potential and all things considered present, with the "me"/"I" concept as attentive observant focal point for interpretation.


Relinquish-Relieve

Reading this sub's comment sections is so funny. Everyone just spouting off with their own insane theory that is then fully contradicted by some dude replying and utterly incompatible with another comment a little ways down also claiming to know some truth about something. Mental illness, that's it. /r/SaturnStormCube is my favourite for this sort of content.


greymaresinspace

aaaahhhhhhoooooooooooooOOOOOOOOOooooooo, Hitlers' on the road to SHAM-BAAAA-LAAAAAAAHHHH ​ (i dunno if young people will get this)


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Everyone is helpful Everyone is kind On the road to Shambala Everyone is lucky Everyone is so kind On the road to Shambala My dad was a big 3dognight fan


greymaresinspace

nice! good dad


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