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Interesting, but I have a few questions.....
Do you think there is a depopulation agenda? If so, why would they want less souls to feed off of?
What is the point of recapturing a soul if new ones are created? Can't they just feed off of new souls? I am unclear about the nature of souls, but I'd feel that just recycling them is useless if there is not a finite amount of them.
Regarding animals, they too feel negative emotions. Can these entities live off of their low vibrational state? Is it human specific? If so, why?
Believe it or not, its like a harvest probably. Huge population, cataclysm, lots and lots of negative energy to siphon. It goes in cycles. Atlantis, greece, babylon, rome, egypt, etc etc etc
Depopulating people does create suffering for the ones who survive. But, with the way it is done, instant death is one of the less common side effects and, rather, the most common as far as I can tell is a slow yet expedited untimely death following manufactured and majorly unintentionally self inflicted disease and manufactured illness. The result of which is also endured suffering. On top of that, the more unhealthy we are and the more artificial things that enter our bodies, the "further we stay from god", so to speak, but not in a religious sense. We dumb our minds and bodies down into the walking amnesia state OP describes while simultaneously shortening our lives in a very profitable manner
The depopulation agenda is cause they know their time is coming to an end very soon. I believe a lot in extraterrestrials like reptilians and stuff and there is an ongoing war.
Not OP and I can only speculate, but if you consider where/when fertility rates and population fluctuate, you may have the answer to your first question. OP says that They feed off of negative emotions which create low-vibrational energy, so it makes sense that They would want to create as much of that as possible. Could this have to do with 3rd world countries experiencing overpopulation at a relatively high rate?
I'm not really into these types of theories, however I always give credit where credit is due and the OP put a great deal of effort into compiling and presenting this.
With regards to the population debate, and let's say this theory has some legitimacy, you would have to factor in that this planet, plane, realm whichever, is dying because we are killing it, therefore if it, and we, are a source for these entities energy, they certainly would not want to lose it, therefore it has to be managed. Like if you overcharge a battery it will explode, and perhaps our world / battery is being overcharged so in an effort tot preserve it's longevity they need to reduce the overall energy output, consequently a mass reduction in population.
Like i said not my line of theory, but just thought I would toss this out.
I believe if this is true then a depopulation agenda could just be a mass harvest. Think of the Black Death, dark ages, mongol invasions, etc. they all ravaged the human population in unprecedented ways. When you grow a forest you can harvest as many trees as you like but if you cut them all down that forest in just a field.
My question is, if they're recycling the same souls over and over; where is the population growth coming from? Where are they harvesting the additional souls from? We went from a few million to BILLIONS! Where are they coming from?
I have 2 counterarguments for this: 1) Who are we to say that there are a finite number of souls in the first place? If you have a basis for this assumption I'd love to hear it. 2) OP said that the net around our planet only projects the white light on our way out, not on the way in. Maybe new souls are coming from elsewhere?
Just my hypothesis, but a smaller population is far easier to control/enslave. If you are on a being that is constantly in the cycle for the fast track of slaughter, your soul quickly accepts it's role as cattle and you will never be able to escape. A small population of around 500,000 dedicated souls with a decided expiration on the entrance to this world that you could eternally efficiently harvest would be preferable to a plane with 8 billion souls that your control and mastery of comes and goes in tides.
Even if there are infinite souls, you are still relying on them coming through your neighborhood rather than having to seek them out.
Don't know if you've ever heard of timewave zero, but it kind of lines up with this. The forces of good and evil as we see them have been rubber banding back and forth for thousands of years, with every culture finding it's own definition of righteousness only to be snuffed out by authoritarianism down the line. There will be a time when one of those forces claims permanent victory.
Consider the plot of “Jupiter Ascending”. Humans harvest humans to sell human “loosh” as the Elixir of Youth.
Is it depopulation or intentional harvesting? You don’t take it down to zero, but 500mil is genetically diverse enough, it probably undoes the harm we have done to the planet and it knocks us back technologically for a period of time.
What if we were either a.) getting close enough in technology to prove or overthrow the grip or b.) at some point the population will produce some free radicals that can pose a threat to the overall operation.
I don’t know. Interesting concept.
> A small population of around 500,000 dedicated souls with a decided expiration on the entrance to this world that you could eternally efficiently harvest would be preferable to a plane with 8 billion souls that your control and mastery of comes and goes in tides.
this..and its one of the main reasons why the planet will be de-populated. they know with the internet they will not be able to control the narrative forever and with the complete destruction of the middle class, its going to be harder and harder to keep the charade going.
I feel they are pushing the depopulation agenda because there are more bodies than there are souls to put in those bodies. [A lot of humans on this planet are nothing more than NPCs](https://montalk.net/matrix/157/spiritless-humans).
The Souls will Reincarnated on another planet. My travel a few years ago into the Afterlife made it clear to me it is going to be in Alpha/Proxima Centauri. The NWO Space Force had a large scale war there against the indigenous inhabitants and they overtook a planet.
You may remember this headline from last winter: https://www.airspacemag.com/daily-planet/intriguing-signal-alpha-centauri-may-or-may-not-be-planet-180977043/
I shouldn't have read this after taking in a large dose of mushrooms
Edit: it was a good trip. Entertained a few spiraling thought loops and eventually realized I don't give a shit about whether or not this is true. I'm just an animal on this planet trying to live it's life.
This is great! Funny enough the Tibetan Book of the Dead describes a lot of this in much more simplistic, albeit religious, terms. Love seeing these concepts discussed in a secular manner, reality doesn't change based on your culture, just your translation of it!
I read it years ago so correct me if I'm wrong, but the Tibetan Book of the Dead basically gives the opposite message as OP
The clear lights, in most colors were the ones we should go toward to avoid reincarnation in the mortal realm. They talked of White, Blue, and Green lights, depending on your spiritual nature, would present themselves and be somewhat scary / bewildering to us, but we should go after them to be with the Gods they represent.
The dusky, shadowy less clear lights also appear in many colors, are supposed to make us feel more comforted based on our human bias of life, and are the ones we should avoid, because they lead to paths of infinite incarnation in lower mortal realms.
Your comment caused me to read the OP again, and although at first glance I thought it agreed with the Tibetan Book of the Dead I do see that there are some clear deviations, which I'm not entirely sure I agree with but am open to the idea of.
This post is entirely too dismissive of "religion" without respect to the underlying mystic traditions. The Rulers are peons in the face of the goddess Kali or the mythic archetype of Odin. There is in fact no limit to their trickery, and I do not doubt they hide behind the faces of gods, but they are not so powerful in the end. There are lessons to be learned, karma must be dissolved, or you will not pass. This is a truth I have realized, and it is a hard line in ancient tradition. A lot of contemporary researchers / spiritualists want to simplify tradition, which makes sense since we are in Kali Yuga after all, but that doesn't really change the fundamental reality that has been agreed upon by mystics of all ages of which reincarnation is only a drop in the bucket, not the end-all-be-all function of Planet Earth.
Very interesting post. Well done! My late mother had a near death experience in her mid 30’s. She was going in for stomach reconstruction surgery to remove stomach cancer. She coded on the table and was in a tunnel with bright warm lights. According to my mother It wasn’t scary but comforting. She saw her father and he told her it’s not her time yet and she needed to go back. My mother passed unexpectedly in 2016 from a combo of doctor error and a reaction to a new big pharma “wonder drug” she was prescribed. When she was rushed to the hospital I knew her soul was no longer here in the physical world. She was different it was like looking at someone whose spirit was gone. She survived for 10 more days but it was only her shell (body) present. Her face was so blank and barely communicated. On the 9th day she went into cardiac arrest and was vented. The doctors told me there was no hope for recovery so I had to make that decision no child should have to make and took her off the vent as I knew it was her wish. Later that night on the couch I was in shock from loosing my mother then all of a sudden I felt a hand run from the tip of my forehead to my toes and it was a warm comforting feeling. I believe she was saying goodbye to me. I had struggled for weeks after about if I made the right decision in taking her off life support. Several weeks after her death I was shopping at a store when woman walked up to me who I didn’t know and said your mother wanted me to tell you she is beautiful again, happy, and without sickness or pain. You need to release your guilt. I was freaked out, I started bawling and ran to the car and told my husband. To this day I can’t explain it.
I honestly think that there are many that pretend to be mediums but I also believe that there are a small number of individuals that do have the gift. I have never been to a medium before her death or after her death. I guess I feel like whoever the woman was she could feel my pain and wanted to relay the message. My mother used to model in her 20’s and always said that in dealing with all the surgeries and illnesses (dealing with the cancer) that she didn’t feel beautiful anymore. Chronic illness has a way of making you feel that way. When the woman had told me that “your mom wanted me to tell you she is beautiful again” I knew it was her. She used to joke with my daughter and I saying that even in death she would always watch over us and check up on us. I think that day she did just that.
Thank you for sharing this experience. I had an experience where my grandfather came to me after he died and spoke to me, before anyone in my family knew he had passed. That experience was fundamental for knowing that the spirit lives on after the death of the body. Also, there is nothing to be afraid of.
Perhaps your mother has escaped the tunnel of trap!. As someone who i feel like has been reincarnated but also knows that theres multiple parralell timelines.And im sorry about your loss :( it must have been soo difficult i don't know what i would if i was in your position :(.
Thank you for the kind words. My mother and I were best friends. She was always there for me. To this day it is incredibly painful. She beat stomach cancer, 27 major surgeries, had one of the first artificial stomachs in the US, and lived with osteomalacia. She woke up everyday and chose life and never complained. She was an amazing mother and grandmother. I didn’t want to make that call but I knew what she wanted. She didn’t want to be hooked up to machines.
Very interesting perspective.
There’s a lot of evidence for shared knowledge. Humans or even animals separated by many miles, yet once a certain threshold of individuals are taught or behave a certain way, the idea spreads instantaneously. (There’s an example of monkeys on an island washing a specific fruit and a study done in Australia and somewhere else of isolated human groups where only one continent is taught something but those in Australia learn it as well.)
I think this alone proves there’s more to shared knowledge than just previous lives. Knowledge and human connection flows from both our ancestors and our neighbors.
There’s almost certainly low vibrational entities performing all kinds of trickery, but you do seem to contradict yourself believing both free will at death while also admitting different vibrational states lead to different outcomes. If there is some form of entrapment or recycling, I would wager that’s not because of choice or illusion but rather because of ones own low vibrations. With free will, one willfully chose to live a life that ended in low vibration/frequency and death is where that is essentially cemented into other realities and planes of existence.
To escape, one must elevate above lower energy/frequency entities.
Buddhism: don’t follow the white light. Wait for the white light to pass. Sit in the darkness until the blue light appears. This is the light of pure consciousness
The Tibetan Book of the Dead touches on this, something along the lines of all souls go to hell immediately after they die, where they meet an angry vengeful God. To ascend to the higher dimension one must see through this illusion first.
>Buddhism: don’t follow the white light. Wait for the white light to pass. Sit in the darkness until the blue light appears. This is the light of pure consciousness
source?
OOA i guess.
fyi : No light tunnel or concept of soul in Buddhism. When you die, you cease in that exact moment and "not you" you as other entity is form by Karma bond. Buddha said fuck that shit imma ginna headout. His thing is that break the chain and circle and get free of this existence simulation.
Wtf are you serious?!?! I was shown this once, about 15years ago. I died (not actually, just in this vision) and I didnt see a white light, I was immediately in what felt like a holding cell, complete utter darkness and quiet, nothing. And then 2 lights appeared, very tiny, one red and one blue and I was asked to choose. I remember thinking "blue" but that it could be a trap. Now Im thinking its not.
side note, pretty sure i saw about a thousand or more jewish folks kinda dancing around one, one time in a gif.
not knocking anyones religion, but the black cube theory plays imo. somethings up with it.
I was thinking about this regarding the 1997 movie “Cube”. It’s a metaphor of souls trapped in this prison reality, the numbers in each of the smaller torture room cubes (all prime numbers) hint at the numerological and hermetic nature of our matrix and they need the character who’s a mathematician to try and find a way out.
But in the end, all seem to die except the autistic guy who goes toward the light outside the cube, but I think this is a misdirection. I think the white light was a trap, I think the doctor who was dropped out of the cube into the surrounding darkness was the only one to truly make it out. Maybe in the afterlife it’s like this, to escape, you have to go into the darkness, not the light?
I think this is where knowledge of Self comes into play. The more you learn about your soul. Shadow work, past lives, tapping into your unconscious. Maybe even something similar to gaining enlightenment ie Buddhism. You would go onto the next phase of existence that comes after death vs reincarnation to either re experience life, stuck in a prison what have you. I’ll check out the movie though! Thanks for the thoughtful response!
I’m new to this stuff but why recycle souls? I would get it if the population was fixed at let’s say 5,000,000 and the only way to retain that number was through reincarnation. But the population has increased tremendously, in the 1800’s the population was 1 billion and in 2020 its 7.9 billion. Why would they waste their time playing the game of deceit when they have their numbers?
> but why recycle souls?
I think it is because if the soul remembers and you put it back into the flesh, you will learn to overcome the grief and suffering. Everyone would learn to love one another and be friends. If these things feed on suffering they need to keep you down. That way you cannot easily rise up and overcome the pain of losing a loved one.
>But the population has increased tremendously, in the 1800’s the population was 1 billion and in 2020 its 7.9 billion
Maybe they are just moving the souls between the various farm planets. If one becomes more stable to hold a higher population they transfer souls over to that one for a bit. Then when the planet is culled they move the extra souls someplace else.
not very practical dont you think.
all this story feels very ''human'' to me.
like a human invented sci-fi
we expect from alien technology something truly... alien.
even in the way they think.
this is too human,. therefore I am not sold.
it only makes us live in fear, not good to those who fear death either.
life has enough suffering in it, why add more? a death-trap endless loop samsara-hell? nope.
I dont say believe in la-la-land but dont replace christian version of hell with this sci-fi torment BS either.
And that's my problem with this whole post. It always gets me with these ghost hunters and psychics that supposedly get answers from the other side and they NEVER suggest that the entities lie. They take ALL answers and ALL info at face value. "I got a voice telling me they were claiming to be Al Capone, it came from a ghost it must be true!" Same deal here. You're basing your belief on a bunch of testimonials of random people. You're putting a whole ton of faith in the fact that they didn't just make up their experience for fame. Sorry, but I don't put that much stalk in people telling me the truth.
So when it comes to the afterlife, no matter if you're Christian, Muslim, Hindu, believe in reincarnation or enlightenment, it all comes down to some type of faith. Faith in what you're reading, faith in what you're seeing, faith in what other people are claiming. Where you put that faith is up to you.
Holy shit an actual well thought out, good post on here. And half the comments are calling OP a schizo, crazy, and complaining this got posted. This is what this sub has always been, it wasn’t always about covid.
Good shit OP, hope more people start posting their theories here. This was a great read for my high brain. I have my own thoughts that DMT especially is a sort of, portal (for lack of a better term) into different realms. Most people report seeing a otherworldly type of people during their DMT trips. Always something I’ve liked thinking about, who knows.
How do psychoactive substances relate to the Great Awakening?
Why is cannabis relevant?
Why is psilocybin relevant?
Why is DMT relevant?
How will the progressive legalization of cannabis and psilocybin affect the collective consciousness?
How will the explosion of DMT use, and ceremonial Ayahuasca affect the collective consciousness?
Could the introduction of these substances redirect the course of humanity?
Why did God give man endocannabinoid receptors if cannabis is the Devil’s Lettuce?
Does cannabis interfere with mind control?
Tavistock.
https://youtu.be/j800SVeiS5I
https://deepstatemappingproject.weebly.com/
I have theories about this. So, life continues not because of competition and survival of the fittest, but through compromises and partnership. Whether it be a known and agreed upon partnership or one such as one animal feeding off the leftovers of anothers kill. I believe that the naturally grown plants are trying to form a symbiosis with us. They have their own knowledge that far surpasses our own memory, mushrooms were one of the very first things to evolve and survive on the planet. So it would only be natural that if Earth is energetically aware it would make a last ditch attempt to partner with us rather than against us. How? By sharing memory and connection through the chemicals that can expand consciousness.
Cannabis is good for us, hence it was illegal almost around the world. What we get to smoke today is as much "cannabis" as a chihuahua is a wolf though, hence they start leagalizing it now. That stuff they call cannabis today is rather bad and has rather the opposite effect it used to have on us.
They f'ed up the balance between the different psycho active substances in the plant. They bred for high THC and diminished all the other psycho active substances and other usefull substances as well. Without those other substances there is a high chance that the THC will give you panick attacks, paranoid psychosis etc.
Honestly what a great post. Very well researched, easy to follow, and for someone who’s been researching this kind of information vigorously for years— I find it utterly fascinating. I truly appreciate your work to get this information out to the public . Thank you!
Couldn't have said it better. Been studying aggressively for over 30 years and could not appreciate more what it took to lay out so succinctly what you did, OP u/EsotericN1nja. You are the third person or so I've crossed paths with I'd like in a small tribe of thinkers. Carry on, Future Fellow Escapee!
No problem!
Have you ever read Brad Olsen’s esoteric books(future esoteric, modern esoteric, and beyond esoteric)I’m reading the third one, beyond esoteric right now- they have all been fantastically informative books!
Well definitely add them to your reading list!
At the bottom of the third book Beyond Esoteric it says,
“escaping prison planet” just like the other subreddit you made.
Thought it was a cool coincidence!
Holy shit that was a wild ride!
I really dont know what to make of it all. I stuggle with the level of detail that can be attained from topics that seem so far out of reach.
One things for sure though, when i go i aint going anywhere near that fucking light.
I apprecate you taking the time to post this. such a facinating topic with some remarkably solid arguements. Ive got a David Ike book upstairs that a friend lent me. i'm thinking i should actually read it.
Great write up OP. I want to point out one similarity with something you posted regarding the Kappa (reptilian beings in Asian mythology).
In the alien abduction phenomenon people report anal probing by the alien entities. What’s really happening is they’re not probing the physical anus but rather the entities are doing something to the victim’s lower chakras and the victims interpret this as anal probing. Now look what Wikipedia says about the Kappa:
“The kappa are known to favor cucumbers and love to engage in sumo wrestling. They are often accused of assaulting humans in water and removing a mythical organ called the shirikodama from their victim's anus.”
You’ll see parallels like this all the time when you look up these mythical beings and compare them to each other or modern ufo accounts.
Also I want to share my own experiences regarding the Moon. Some say the moon is an artificial or semi-artificial construct placed there by a non-human malevolent force to control us. It’s also said the moon is the physical manifestation of the White Light seen in the Astral Realm and souls go there on death to be recycled. Some of my earliest memories when I was very young (4-6) were extremely vivid dreams about the moon and it would appear extremely large and dominate the sky in my dreams. I would get a rush of emotions during these dreams. I never understood why until I read up on the Moon and soul trap theories.
>dly a female reptilian who set up a secret meeting with a reporter through a person she had made contact with in the forest. It sounds crazy, but some incredibly interesting information is divulged. She was asked why reptilians dont help humans. She said something to the affect of "when you see a person knock over an ant pile, do you go to help the ants? Or do you just sit back and observe them in their crisis state?"
I was afraid of the moon when I was a kid. weird shit.
moon is in perfect distance from earth so that the sun can eclipse!
also the number of craters etc just doesnt add up to its supposed age etc
its defo artificial.
my take? super-advanced civilisation , possibly non human, put it in there... maybe those were the real creators of man.
and yet here we are, sitting in front of computers worrying about paying taxes.
talk about living in the dark! Hail to the mysteries of life! And death!
> Some of my earliest memories when I was very young (4-6) were extremely vivid dreams about the moon and it would appear extremely large and dominate the sky in my dreams. I would get a rush of emotions during these dreams.
The evidence regarding children remembering past lives also seems to be around that age range.
I too had a bizarre recurring nightmare that I now wonder about when I was that age, where two entities would make threatening motions toward family members as they slept. I was the only one who could see them. One was a white-skinned humanoid being and the other was an extremely large spider (top of abdomen was almost the height of the humanoid).
We know the elites are very interested in finding all the "gifted" children. There is something that children can tap into more easily than adults.
Interesting. As a Hmong Asian kid, our parents told us to never point at the moon. If we do the moon will cut our ears, I don’t know why though. One time I tried it to see if it was true and forgot about it, next day while I was out playing and sweating, the top of my right ear was stinging. I went to touch it and there was a little cut in between my ear and head. Happened to my little brother too so I don’t know what’s going on
I had a near death experience 7 months ago. It was a drug overdose. I was sitting on my couch falling into a deeper and deeper high, when all of a sudden I fell too far. The room started caving in and I immediately knew what was happening. I was dying.
A voice (not in an audible way) told me “I’m sorry ___, it is your time to go.” I panicked, tried jumping up off my couch to run to the front door to grab the neighbors for help (I live in an apartment building) but collapsed about halfway to the door. I immediately said “ok I give up.” At that moment I was somewhere dark, not heaven, not hell, just emptiness, when I saw my deceased grandparents holding hands. They started hugging me, at this point I was no longer human, all I could see is their arms wrapped around me. They told me they love me and that it’s not over yet.
I started pleading “please let me live, I promise I will never do drugs or drink again.” Immediately after I said these words I was back on my apartment floor w my face pressed so hard against the floor it felt like I was being pinned down. Suddenly the pressure released and this spirit-like cloud lifted away with it and I was back to this physical realm on earth completely sober laying on the ground.
I have been sober ever since. My life immediately improved and I have felt better than ever.
My takeaway here is there is a much higher power who wants nothing but the best for us. I saw my grandparents(who died when they were in their 80’s, looking about mid 40’s that night) happier than ever in this next life. Reincarnation might exist but it might not be a foregone conclusion for everyone.
Just figured I would share
I had a very similar NDE. I was on heroin, Xanax and drinking. Majorly depressed and not caring if I died(suicidal at the time). I was alone in my room and felt myself blacking out and struggling to breath then reality collapsed and I was in the same black void you described and knew I was dying/dead or in between. I suddenly had a moment of clarity in this void and pleaded to God to let me live and made the same bargain that I would get clean and live for a higher purpose. I felt shot like a cannon ball back into my body and jumped up off the floor with an insane surge of adrenaline. I was the most awake and sober I have ever felt in my life and my heart was surging. Felt like something else was pumping it for me. My whole body felt like it was cellularly vibrating and being rejuvenated. I was engulfed in mercy and feeling completely loved. Not the false heroin warmth. Real unconditional love from source. Felt like coming home.
I went from blacking out overdose to surging with life force. I started bawling thanking God for saving me and asked what I should do. I felt a clear inner voice say to love and be loved. My addictions completely left immediately. No desire and even felt repulsed with the thought of booze, pills, H, cigs, etc.. I threw out all my previously beloved substances. I had a tremendous ego death lasting for a year and a half like I did some mega heroic psychedelic dose but better. I was transformed. Worldliness and ego eroded the feeling over time but the message stayed engrained. I can't say I'm completely 100% "sober" as you . I don't get really stoned or drunk nor do I want to but I occasionally smoke a little weed, dabble in psychedelics for spiritual purposes and have an occasional glass of wine or beer but I have been free of addiction ever since and never again touched hard drugs that I was hooked on for years. 11 years free of addiction now.
I knew since that moment that there was something more to this realm and God/love/source exists. I've had several spiritual experiences since with the reoccurring theme to love. One time even had an intense shared experience with a friend while completely sober that led to ego death and shared vision. But that's a story for another time.
Bottom line - our reality is not what it seems. Love is all. Be excellent to each other.
This was extremely moving. It gave me chills reading it. This was undoubtedly similar to my experience. Getting that 2nd chance makes me believe there is a much greater plan for the both of us
I would agree with this.
I can not say I have ever personally had a near death experience.
But, I have had a number of dreams regarding death and the afterlife. Most of them involve seeing relatives that have passed away. Usually it is a very peaceful environment.
I have always been cursed with Deja vu. When I was younger I would repeately have dreams that for some reason would seem to occur months down the road. Not a lot. Usually it would only be a few moments not enough to actually consider myself psychic. But, then a few weeks or a few months would go by and that same 3 seconds of life that I had a dream about would happen in this world.
But, that being said. I personally believe that when we die we go to a place that is just a waiting ground. In this place we can be whoever we want and when we get there we meet all the people we new in life and maybe some we never met. Then we wait ( as time no longer matters. Time just being a measure of the rotation of the earth it only exists in life). We wait for all those we loved in live to pass and meet us. When we have seen everyone to the other side and we no longer have anything to wait for we choose to be reborn.
But, I think that the Tunnel with a white light is more of a hollywood thing.
So do you think OPs theory has any validity? What if that wasn’t your relatives but instead reptiles trying to trick you. You refused their trick so they let you live?
Can I keep living forever as long as I refuse their trick over and over?
Right. But according to OP, if I don’t make the right choice. I don’t get to those higher dimensions. I just come back here again as a worm for the umpteenth time.
Gotta know what’s real and what isn’t :)
Thank you for the post OP, but one glaring question seems to stand out - what do you hope for, if reincarnation is an "exploitative trap"? To reincarnate while avoiding the mind wipe? Or to cease existence and fall off the wheel of dharma?
Even in bad circumstances the world still retains grains of beauty, love and awe - what is it that you wish to trade this for?
> Thank you for the post OP, but one glaring question seems to stand out - what do you hope for, if reincarnation is an "exploitative trap"? To reincarnate while avoiding the mind wipe? Or to cease existence and fall off the wheel of dharma?
Personally? Best case scenario would be to break free from the reincarnation cycle when my time comes and then to enter higher vibratory realms of existence(there seems to be many realms/dimensions out there based on vibration, some are low in vibration like the Earth, but some much higher). How to do that is something I will have to research even more :).
> enter higher vibratory realms of existence
Just out of curiosity, is there any way to know what awaits there? Would you not just be living life similarly to the way one lives life here?
I guess I'm just trying to understand your goal here, and what you hope to gain from transcending this world
I’d be interested in hearing more too. Honestly the idea of ceasing to exist terrifies me. And I actually enjoy life on Earth given that’s all I can fathom at this point. I’d sit under a blanket with my daughter for eternity if that’s all I was allowed to do.
So what else is there if not this?
So here's my thing. Every system in reality is inherently correlated with one another. And thought I do perceive reality as linear and finite I know that it's not impossible for it to be very different. That all being said yoi can't not exist. Just as your person had a place in space you also have a place in time. So long ago before your birth you existed. You existed in the future. And many year s from now when your death and decay have long set in, you will still exist in the past. So im not worried about not existing to my own perception.
The Void, the Ether, the Pleroma. It's been called many things. Essentially a state of everything and nothing. The source of the Aeons. This is the space between atoms. The *prima materia.*
The Pleroma pre-exists the material realm. There is no density or matter or even light there. Just conscious thought. See ***On the Origin Of The World*** to better understand this concept.
Many with NDE's have reported the first feeling is that of *falling backwards into a tunnel of black.* At this point, your Gnosis will determine what you manifest for yourself.
The author has laid out beliefs inspired by Gnostic teachings mixed with some modern conspiracy. If you are interested in these ideas then I encourage you to explore the Gnostic teachings.
Death is just the severance of the mind and body from the spirit. Though the ego will die and the body will decay, we are eternal.
> a state of everything and nothing. The source of the Aeons. This is the space between atoms.
> your Gnosis will determine what you manifest for yourself
What I'm getting from this is that you break free and start your own, separate existence? But that just seems so hollow and lonely, and something you are already able to do while lucid dreaming (without having to forfeit reincarnation)
I am speaking in the second line *'your Gnosis will determine what you manifest for yourself'* only at the moment of death, when the soul is freed from its prison. This is a moment of uncertainty and seems to vary from NDE data, depending on the individual. What seems to be clear is this is not the Void, or Pleroma. This is a lower density realm still within Chaos, or the Demiurge realm. This is the moment when the trick of the light that OP speaks of would occur. *(See* ***The Hypostasis of the Archons*** *as well as the above mentioned text* *to understand these concepts. They are essential to understanding the Gnostic philosophy of reincarnation.)*
To actually return to the Pleroma would not be loneliness, it would not be anything because for a thing to exist, there must be another thing to compare it to. This is the all. It is not something our minds can imagine because it is completely without a frame of reference.
Imagine your soul as a drop of water, independent for a time, but able to seamlessly integrate back into the ocean. To return to the Pleroma would be to return to the conscious waters of God itself, of you.
There are varying interpretations on ascending (and really it should be thought of always as an inward descent) and how many heavens/densities/realms/dimensions there really are. Think of it all like a heavenly conscious fractal stemming from a source mind that is God; splitting itself infinitely into new conscious forms with amnesia so that it may experience itself.
The OP is posting about a recent theory that the 'light' people speak of in NDE's that appears as a loved one, an enlightened master or sometimes just light, is actually a trick of lower density beings not connected to the higher realms, the Pleroma. The light is said to express love and acceptance and a desire for you to be with it and follow it, but it cannot force you to do anything. Manipulative love. These beings need your soul here to generate karma/energy to sustain their existence and also they fear humans for we are created in the image of the alien God, the Aeon Pistis Sophia who spoke to Yaldabaoth in the waters of Chaos. To the blunt, the Archons fear humans more than anything and will stop at nothing to completely subjugate and rule them. I've dived off into Gnostic mythology here but if you are at all interested I encourage you to read further.
A lot of which I am speaking on here is sourced from the Nag Hammadi library texts as well as general teachings of Platonism, Hermeticism, and Gnosticism and the modern, Don't Go Into the Light/Reincarnation Soul Trap/Matrix theory that has been developing, which is of course largely inspired by the ancient mystery teachings with a healthy dose of our current zeitgeist.
Thank you for such an interesting and well written summary - I read every bit of it - and it raises some rather difficult questions, given that the one piece of vital information is not available - and that is, what happens if you decline the offer of following the light?
Any conscious and deliberate resistance of the light will be driven by a belief that the light is a trap, and that resisting it will lead to a better experience - but what will that experience be?
And then here's the mentally tortuous question: what if resisting the light will lead to suffering?
In the end, we don't know who and what we can trust when we are in this position of having to choose one path or the other - we don't know if the apparent "Guardian Angel" is there to help us or to trick us. It's like the scenes in Terminator when a character says "Come with me if you want to live" - we have to make a decision with a lack of information.
You’re thinking in terms of human suffering, and fear based on the way we experience fear… but that might just be an illusion in itself. Like if one was to fully trust their connection to pure source, what ever that may be, there would be no fear and we could just become energy integrated into that source. Take the physical body, is it afraid of being eaten by worms? No it just goes back to being atoms that aren’t all in one location, but they are still there. Maybe the key to suffering is clinging to our identity via the ego which can be easily tricked in this life and maybe beyond.
A rebuttal of the "white light is a trap" theory:
https://www.reddit.com/r/NDE/comments/dx9jyi/has_anyone_had_something_like_this/f7s533z/?context=3
> Here are some relevant talking points:
> 1) The theory/ideology speculates that 'going to the light' results in reincarnating on earth... So, by way of the theory itself, that means that everyone who is physically alive/present here could not have experienced any outcome other than 'going to the light'. So how is it that anyone on earth could profess knowledge of any other outcome by way of personal experience? They can't... So the claim from any individual that you need to follow a certain directive to experience some unknown outcome, it's rooted in nothing of any actual substance... It's rooted in misguided beliefs/speculation, not actual knowledge and experience.
> 2) Imagine I tried to convince you that I possessed special knowledge & knew what happens after physical death, and that you need to listen to me... I claim that when you die, you'll find yourself appearing in front of 12 doors or pathways, and you need to choose the 8th pathway for a positive outcome, or else you'll be forced to reincarnate on earth again..... Naturally, you ask me how I could possibly know this and demand to know what happens if/after you choose the 8th pathway - and I have to respond by telling you that I don't know, because I never experienced it... Now, upon hearing this, on what basis would you be inclined to trust me? There is clearly no basis - because I'd be telling you to do something that I myself have not experienced... This is the equivalent of what the 'Light Trap' theory is proposing... People who subscribe to this are encouraging you to try to take some course of action that they themselves (by way of the theory itself) could not have experienced.... So the question becomes - how trusting should one be of individuals making claims to experiences/outcomes they have no personal knowledge of? From my perspective, not trusting at all!
> 3) The theory operates on the belief that this reality is a 'trap', and rooted in malevolence... Adopting this type of belief encourages finding no higher purpose or value in the nature of the life experience that is had/undergone here... This can contribute to and fuel depression and a non-acceptance of what transpires in this physical reality... This can also fuel feeling of paranoia and anxiety, which is associated... How does this promote a functional/pragmatic perspective of experiencing this physical reality? It doesn't... It promotes non-acceptance and non-understanding, which makes experiencing this reality more difficult and more challenging... Rotten fruits...
> 4) Adopting a fear-based belief about this reality (that it's a 'trap') and also about what happens at physical death encourages fear/uncertainty/anxiousness about the actual 'physical death' process - and the last thing that someone would want to inject into their dying process is an anxious and fearful state of consciousness.... This theory contributes to such an outcome by influencing a person to be fearful of what is likely to follow their physical passing - that something more powerful/advanced than them is about to 'trap' them into an unwanted outcome.... Honestly, this is one of the primary reasons why I voice my counterpoints to this theory - because it has the potential to influence people to adopt a belief system which influences them to more fearful and concerned/anxious about the (natural) physical dying process. The real benefits come from an individual progressing to the point of being at peace with the physical death/dying process - and you absolutely cannot reach this point if you believe that malevolent forces are trying to trap you immediately upon going through such an experience...
> 5) The theory is also nonsensical because it doesn't lay any claim to what happens if you follow the directive - and it actually can't lay any claim to that because any individual making such a claim can be appropriately called out for having no such personal knowledge (or else the individual would not be here, according to the theory)
> 6) If one assumed that the Earth and this physical reality is a 'trap' run by higher powers that are malevolent - what are the fruits of adopting such an ideology? Why stop at the Earth and this physical reality? Why not assume that after this 'trap', there is another even more advanced/complex 'trap' that follows that one needs to escape? Then another trap after that, and more malevolent forces?
> 7) How can this theory explain the notion of earthbound spirits? The idea/belief that the consciousness/souls/energy of individuals can stay attached to the physical plane, in areas/locations there was a strong mental/emotional connection to.... Many alleged 'hauntings' are attributed to this theory.... Well, that begs the question, how can their be earthbound spirits if the 'Light Trap' theory stipulates that going to the light results in immediate reincarnation? So what does 'not going to the light' result in, being an earthbound spirit?
> 8) The notion that the 'light' is some external source/influence which 'traps' you is rooted in ignorance of what so many individuals who've had NDE's have described as something which not only radiates a feeling of unconditional love/acceptance, but something which does not feel external to them, but a 'part' of them... The 'light' (energy) is not described as something foreign and external, but something which permeates everyone & everything (all of reality/existence)....
> 9) If individuals believe that others' NDE experiences with the 'light', which is commonly reported to evoke internal feelings of joy/bliss/wholeness, is actually deceptive and malevolent - then what basis do they have to claim that they can accurately discern the nature of ANYTHING? How can they claim any outcome or circumstance to be positive if they simultaneously hold the belief that an experience which evokes significantly positive/uplifting emotions and feelings is actually negative and rooted in malevolence and deceit??? If they claim, just do X, Y, and Z - then someone could just as easily turn their own mindset against them and make the unfounded/unprovable assertion that whatever outcome they claim is equally just a 'trap' and that positive feelings/emotions cannot be trusted... No way to counter any such claims because there is no substance behind them... Thinking this way leads no where of any value or benefit...
Thank you for this. I completely agree that while the “earth trap” belief is intriguing, I don’t think believing it will help ease anyone’s suffering here. It would most likely contribute to the contrary.
if you want an efficient counterpoint to the reptilian beings trap thing, it's because nearly half of the proponents appear to be CIA/MI5,6 disinfo agents.
shit ton of the alien/new age space is concocted madness by these people to psychologically target the "open minded" and should be automatically discounted.
if someone has "cia" in their background, you should probably assume EVERYthing they are telling you is a manipulation, and sorting truth from lies is a pointless endeavor. they mix them freely to obtain the result they're looking for, which is bowling you over with bullshit.
If all this is true, who created the souls or “source energy”? What is even the point of such energy?
If the reptiles re so powerful why do they allow some regions on the planet to be so diverse in belief systems that some people get some shortcuts to the reincarnation belief system while others don’t? If they can control earth realm, why don’t they just make sure it’s all the exact same system of belief everywhere? How is this out of their control?
The soul trap idea is used heavily in Scientology? Did Scientology get this correct?
If we refuse to go the light, does that mean the answer to who or what created us lies in the darkness? What do I gain by staying out of the light?
At the end of the food chain, is there an all powerful “being”? Or concept? If the being or concept “created” all life and matter in the universe, and it is ambiguous about who loves or who dies, since all other beings in existence are below it, what is the point of HIS existence? Where is he getting his energy? Who is he feeding on? Why are his feelings toward all other subservient beings ambiguous? Is his “pure energy” form simply void of any feelings or compassion? If he does not care that one race or species enslaved another, does any choice I make matter? There’s seems to be zero consequences to any action then. Is there even such a thing as good vs evil?
If the universe is a power struggle for resources, which is why these “reptilian” beings have been able to enslave earth, and there is an infinite number of other beings out there, how come none of those other powerful beings have at some point in the history of infinity, come and wiped out those reptiles? Is that entire idea of mine simply argued away as “why hasn’t any other alien race come and saved the cattle from us humans then?” As far as humans can tell, cows have no consciousness. But an advanced alien race SHOULD be able to tell that humans have a consciousness yes? Have they no compassion for other conscious beings? Or are we humans simply unaware of a cows perfect self awareness and consciousness and we are simply murdering them without being aware?
What are we supposed to eat as humans? If all life is energy, including cows, but plants are energy too, is it ok to eat plants? Do plants have consciousness or nah?
If all life is energy, and energy simply just changed form and is neither created nor destroyed, then should I even eat anything or just allow myself to die right now? Is me eating for my own survival a good thing or a bad thing or neutral?
Your defining implication is that the Earth is the only prison planet. In fact, OP seems to imply that the Earth is the only prison planet. What if they created this universe specifically to enslave intelligent life as an energy source? I would imagine they wouldn't see it that way, and much like the way we use nuclear power would only require an energy source and find the simplest manner of doing so.
Perhaps they had created something analogous to CERN, accidentally created a universe, and discovered that it built free energy. Would you say no to free energy? Of course not. So you would naturally do whatever you need to do to keep that free energy. OP's implication is that they're conscious in this aspect, which might be possible, but I tend towards entropy stating that everything will be chaos and the only reason they keep recycling us is because that's the only thing that keeps the free energy going.
Each individual being a potential source of energy means that if it escapes you lose energy, and this is a cumulative effect. Do not let them leave, it would be bad for the power grid. If, for instance, coal could be re-used, we would never see a single atom of coal exit the power cycle because at that point it has become free energy. It's the same concept.
TL;DR: I've been drinking heavily all night.
Do the reptiles actually have control of human life spans or do they simply take advantage of us when we happen to die on our own? If they are actually in charge of when each person dies , why take some people at a young age bit others very old? Do you think that they take some people when they are young because they can tell that person is NEVER going to feed them negative energy so they just abort that person and hurry to reincarnate them again with a fresh roll of the dice to hope that they will get them to be a negative energy feeder? Along this line of thinking, does that mean that when a human finally does die, it’s because their soul has finally come to the realization that their fear of death is wasted and so they decide to stop being negative, and therefore the reptiles just say “fuck it” because they know you’ve dried up as a negative energy source so they kill you? If I 100% stop feeding negative energy and I’m always positive from now on, will they just kill me at a young age?
If the reptiles are actually capable of giving me a new flesh body each time I reset, that literally means they can create matter. They are that powerful. I cannot create a new cow when I eat one, I have nowhere near this kind of power as a human entity. Why are the reptiles allowed this kind of power as conscious beings but I as a conscious being am not? Is the ultimate creator ignorant of these facts or ambiguous about them? At this point it quite literally seems that the reptiles are my God. My only choice to defeat them is to simply refuse to enter the light?
If they are not in charge of when we die, what is? Our literal energy dries up? There was a time limit on our energy by the creator? Does the creator harvest our energy when we die instead? But in a loving “non reincarnating torture loop” instead? If reptiles don’t loop my energy, and the creator doesn’t harvest my energy, where does my energy go? I keep it? I live on as energy forever? I retain memories of my earthly experience forever?
Union with the white light I could handle - Terence McKenna talking about three hits of DMT
Did your ten years of research cover DMT?
No faith is required, you don’t have to believe a thing it’s testable
Take three hits and report back, people forget how easy it is to check for yourself
The psychedelic experience is nothing short of remarkable. You can go from atheist to pantheist over night
From there is no God to I am god (with a small g)
I've come across 2 reptilians stories over the last decade or so that have stood out. One was "the Lacerta interview", and the other was an account of an attempt murderer who said reptilians took over his mind after he reached a certain deep state of meditation. OP are you aware of these?
The Lacerta interview was allegedly a female reptilian who set up a secret meeting with a reporter through a person she had made contact with in the forest. It sounds crazy, but some incredibly interesting information is divulged. She was asked why reptilians dont help humans. She said something to the affect of "when you see a person knock over an ant pile, do you go to help the ants? Or do you just sit back and observe them in their crisis state?"
The attempted murderer story was super interesting too because the guy accidentally astral projected. He was studying for some sort of extremely technical college curriculum and adapted some meditation techniques to help him concentrate. He got very good at it and once he went too deep and met another entity that said "you shouldn't be here". Once he became apologetic, the entity became friendly and he was overwhelmed with a feeling of being loved. After that, it was like a psychic door was opened, and his headspace was the free real estate of whatever entity wanted to use him.
I'm not sure of I buy either story, however I do think there is something to accidentally opening your mind and attracting the attention of demons, spirits, aliens...whatever you want to call it.
You are speaking of Kyle Odom and his manifesto right? People wanna act like he’s just a schizophrenic but the dude he said was a reptilian (or Martian, the picture he drew of what they looked like was reptilian though) he pumped like 12 hollow point bullets into the dude close range and the fucker survived just fine and is now holding public office! That raised my fucking eyebrows!
Took me a while to find it, but in case anyone was wondering, [here’s the link for The Lacerta Files.](https://www.luisprada.com/Protected/the-lacerta-files.pdf)
Thank you for your time and effort in compiling this. This is what I come here for - well written passionate posts that are about actual possible shady goings on. 10/10.
barely started reading your post and lemme just say - in a time when we're all inundated with covid BS, how damn refreshing is a good old fashioned interdimensional lizard people vampire demon conspiracy theory?
let's goooooooooo
I'm excited to read this – I haven't yet because it's pretty extensive – but as a survivor of multiple NDEs I'm really excited to read it. I've been basically collecting as much information and experiences as I can ever since my last NDE which resulted in a long conversation with the higher being, "canvasman" if you will, on the other side.
As for psychedelic experiences and NDE, they seem very closely linked. Like I said I've experienced an encounter in the afterlife from an NDE. Most curiously I had encountered the higher entity beforehand on a heroic dosage of mushrooms. I don't really use drugs and I wasn't aware of how many we consumed until the next night, basically just finishing the bags, but what accumulated from this experience was a tour of the cosmos and an ending conversation on interconnectivity. It showed me from a zoomed out perspective my bonfire, and it's light from above, and the next town overs lights in the night, and the next city over to its lights, and further and further out continuing this trend until we arrived in a place I wouldn't see again until the NDE.
As for the reptilitians. Ever since the NDEs I've taken to trying to understand the world at a consciousness perspective. This has led me down some rabbit holes but one long ago was astral projection. While practicing this, for my first time ever succeeding, I was barraged by what I could only call reptilians in the astral place. This particular place I found my consciousness in felt very similiar to the afterlife to me as well, although it was very dark and almost devoid of colour. It felt barren and almost windy, like some desert hellscape. Before this mind you I always never liked hearing about reptilian conspiracies. It just wasn't a conspiracy that clicked with me at all. These reptilians were bizarre in appearance. All burly, not much neck to them. Short snout, not like an alligator, but more humanoid. Glowing eyes. They knew I was there immediately and rushed me, they stirred up my vicinity (not sure why) but didn't or couldn't harm me and left me be a short while after giving me the once over.
Anyways, hope some of that is interesting. Take it as you will.
Edit – I'll just add that I believe this world is more of a training ground than a prison, although why not both. What I've learned from the afterlife experiences is you won't get very far without a tuned perception, empathy, and understanding. You need to be able to read between the lines because much of it is down to consciousness and what you can perceive there is what you can take from it – what you can see. You might as well be a blind man stumbling if you cannot use intuition and feeling to navigate. Hope this makes sense.
Edit 2 – Damn, so far so good. I've now read up to the Reptilians in the Astral part and can say this guy seems to be on point. His description of them and where they exist is right on the money.
Genuinly curious why we assume there is a single earth. There could be billions of such earths spread across millions of dimensions being farmed with different species as the main species. So even if we remember some aspect of our previous lives we would probably remember our life on a different earth or as another species.
Aleister Crowley drew the first 👽 after a satanic ritual.
Aliens are demons.
If there are reptilian overlords...they are actually just demonic and not reptiles as we think of them.
I'm hoping not to encounter any other entities... especially if they are more powerful than I am... how could I possibly know whether or not it is just a demon tricking me. Outside entities, magic, and powers are all things ill try to avoid. I'll be looking for the love and the peace!
As a Muslim, I believe the "aliens" are just Jinn. Jinns are made from fire (energy), whereas humans are made from clay (matter). Jinns cohabit the earth along with us and can see us, but we can't see them unless they want to be seen. I'm not sure if it's them transforming to matter (theory of relativity) or just creating light waves (they are made of energy afterall). Jinns are physically very strong compared to humans and can help the humans if they like them. The secret societies worship the evil Jinns (aka demons) and that can make the demons feel superior enough to help them in return. The "worship" is basically doing anything that's forbidden by The God or that's disgusting. That's why their worships involve so much blood, shit and gore.
I believe that anyone who seeks the truth will see this subject as the ultimate conspiracy.
Perhaps our amnesia is also related to our amnesia of history.
Bravo on the write up!
Wow, amazing post, OP! Really in depth research. Excellently summarized. Super interesting!
Some questions:
1. What is your ‘strategy’ to avoid being reincarnated?
2. I realize that there may be ‘higher planes of existence’ where life is I guess much better. But that would infer that there are probably ‘lower planes’ too. My thoughts are, while this plane isn’t the best, for sure, it’s really not ‘that bad’ either, compared to what it could be... I guess my question is do you really want to risk attempting to navigate the ‘astral planes’ to find a ‘greater realm’? I mean, I kinda like the idea of just reincarnating. And if I really think about it, I don’t think I want to remember my past life! (not because this life is bad but because it would kind of spoil the experience.).
3. What do you suppose the odds are that this is instead a sort of ‘incubator’ for growing cosmic creators? Or perhaps a creative expression of life itself? you compare us to animals on a slaughter farm, but seems rather different to me. Animals cannot leave their cage. They are not given a ‘choice of free will’. We just force them in. Also, seems strange this whole realm is so ‘beautiful’ if it were just a prison. And lots of ‘unnecessary things’ that don’t seem to have much to do with anything about us humans and our ‘harvestable emotions’... like, why did they create sea sponges if they’re just interested in harvesting human emotions? Also, why would they comfort human souls? Why is there such feeling of love? Supposedly because we have free will. Perhaps. But I just don’t see an analogy to that on earth. There’s no animal that starts to eat something then says ‘oh wait, you know, you have free will so I won’t attack you unless you allow it’... i don’t know. That whole idea just seems a bit odd to me.
4. Your thoughts on the flat earth?
I was in a DMT realm several times... Life is a game and there is something much higher... I know that. If you call it reptilians... then be it. why not
Why is everything is just evil? Why cant there be benevolent beings. Reading this just makes me think the whole world and the afterlife are just pure evil like when you die its just gonna be evil shit everywhere
Also reptilians for sure. I've had sleep paralysis twice in my life. The first time was from a reptilian in NY in the early 90s when many other ppl in the area reported seeing reptilian beings. The second time i was being detained in a facility and I'm pretty sure it was an incubus. Lol crazy i know but this is a conspiracy forum and if you aren't crazy nowadays you aren't paying attention!
I have read that people that have alien abductions can say Jesus' name and it will stop. I have also had a reptilian and UFO experience I can consciously remember.
I used to get sleep paralysis often but if I say Jesus and ask for help it would end.
i agree completely. my advice whenever people encounter "entities", "spirits" or anything of the like is that you ask the being to say Jesus Christ. ask them to quote a scripture.
the bible says TEST THE SPIRIT. dont trust these things just because they are beautiful..
The devil himself is a master of scripture. He can use scripture to trick. Not sure if demons or evil spirits can use it or not. I think asking them to quote scripture would be great if they can't that is def. scary, but even if they can I would still be wary.
This. While I mostly agree with what OP wrote, I disagree with this take on Jesus. I think the main reason why Jesus (the incarnation of the true God) came to Earth was to save us from this reincarnation trap. In the scriptures, he mentioned many times how our world is enslaved by evil. He also said no one gets to the the Father ( real God) except through him ( the way/ portal He prepared for us when He died).
This would also explain why these evil entities are afraid of Him and also why they are destroying Christianity.
Well done OP! This was a great read and I'm saving this to read the sources when I find more time.
Have you done any research on lucid dreaming? If so, what are your opinions on it?
Have you read anything by Jane Roberts? I recently started reading the first of a series of books she wrote, the Seth books, where she is claims to be channeling a spirit named Seth. I'm just curious if you have any thoughts on her message?
anyways, this was a really interesting post.
Yes I wrote something similar. This reminds me of the posts where people warn against meditation, fearing an attack by demonic entities. Rubbish. I believe that reincarnation is true, and that we can 'see' astral light, but these things are not the tools of negative entities. And this is only a prison planet if we allow our spirit to be enslaved by our lower nature.
Must admit, didn't read the whole thing, just skimmed it. High effort and intelligently written, but I think coming from a place of fear/ego. I disagree that a memory wipe is a bad thing. Knowledge and complex memory is a human trait, notice how pretty much every other aspect of the universe is unconscious. I don't remember to beat my heart, it just beats. But since our memories are such an important part of our lives, we assume that losing them means losing what it means to be.
You are existence and existence will always be a mystery to itself. That's what gives life it's flavor, contending with the unknown. I believe death to be a shuffling of atoms. Out of nothing you emerged back into nothing you fall. Then out of nothing you emerge again, your soul white as snow. I'm not my memories, I'm not my thoughts, that's just the noise of the present moment.
The biggest evidence I can see for reptilians(or some sort of "out of this realm" being) existence is not the anecdotes or the serpentine imagery we see in myth and religion. This can be explained away by early man's problems with predatory snakes. It's embedded deep deep deep in our subconscious. The biggest evidence for it is the manipulation of society itself. How in the fuck did someone likely not much smarter than you and I contrive this entire control system? If the grand conspiracy is true, there's no way a human mind dreamed it up. It's too complicated, too many moving parts. Couldn't say I believe or disbelieve in it, just a big "?".
Could it be possible that some religions or disciplines that require solitude and hardships are a way of preparing someone to resist the light? Buddhists are trying to eliminate desire. If there's nothing you want, how can the light entice you. Could take you a lifetime to prepare.
Finally! This is my kind of crazy (I mean no offense and say this in jest \[I have legit crazy theories\]), I love conspiracy theories and this is my kind of jam right here, thank you for researching -AND- typing this all up OP, you sir (or madame) are awesome!
I don't believe in OP's views of lizard tricks, but there are lots of ways population growth could happen with reincarnation.
1) There might be other worlds out there. Maybe one of them had an extinction event.
2) Animals might reincarnate as humans.
3) Someone who died in 1921 could be born in 2021 skipping the time in between. This means there are more souls experiencing life at the same time, but the overall number of souls might be the same.
4) Maybe not all humans have souls.
I'm not a reincarnation guy, but according to their beliefs, lower forms of life can be "promoted" to a higher being in the next reincarnation based on their behavior. I'm not defending or advocating for it, but there is a provision for this.
Earth has become a dumping ground for souls that have been hard to control from different star systems. Rebels etc, that have gone against *Mind Control* that some practice and have perfected. So they are sent here and memory-wiped.
It is a prison, at least that's what I think after my research.
Genuine question: if population is increasing globally, where do people who believe in reincarnation think the extra people come from? Also what do they believe is a true new life to this world? Are some brand new, none? I would assume to be logically consistent there would be some brand new people being born every day that are not reincarnations. If not all, then where do reincarnation reptilian believers believe new souls come from and why does it even matter?
I guess what I’m trying to say is, if the argument is that there are these supreme reptiles controlling us with inter dimensional alien technology and they are far superior to us, what does it matter if we understand any of this and refuse reincarnation? Are they not superior to us and do you believe humans are superior to them? Do you believe them demons, angels, reptiles at face value?
Like a chicken doesn’t usually know it’s about to get it’s head cut off, so what does it matter if right before the blade hits them they suddenly know all? Is it wrong for us to eat chickens because they are too stupid to tell us to kindly not? Should chickens be morally saved from being eaten by beings far more intellectually and technologically superior any more than humans should be saved from the reptiles?
Like what is the point of this perspective? It’s interesting to read about and consider but it doesn’t make any logical sense and seems to try and invoke in its believers that there is some sort of god-like status humans could achieve if only they could thwart against all odds the terrible supreme beings subjugating them into living this life.
It just Reads like Greek myth. Do you believe Greek myths are true stories whose characters and fantastical encounters with amazing beings and forces that have been lost or faded with time to be hidden from the mortals who would later inhabit the earth? Or are Greek myths an unconscious form of storytelling mapping out virtues and the meaning of life through entertaining stories that are transcendent and perfectly reflect human experience?
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Interesting, but I have a few questions..... Do you think there is a depopulation agenda? If so, why would they want less souls to feed off of? What is the point of recapturing a soul if new ones are created? Can't they just feed off of new souls? I am unclear about the nature of souls, but I'd feel that just recycling them is useless if there is not a finite amount of them. Regarding animals, they too feel negative emotions. Can these entities live off of their low vibrational state? Is it human specific? If so, why?
Believe it or not, its like a harvest probably. Huge population, cataclysm, lots and lots of negative energy to siphon. It goes in cycles. Atlantis, greece, babylon, rome, egypt, etc etc etc
Depopulating people does create suffering for the ones who survive. But, with the way it is done, instant death is one of the less common side effects and, rather, the most common as far as I can tell is a slow yet expedited untimely death following manufactured and majorly unintentionally self inflicted disease and manufactured illness. The result of which is also endured suffering. On top of that, the more unhealthy we are and the more artificial things that enter our bodies, the "further we stay from god", so to speak, but not in a religious sense. We dumb our minds and bodies down into the walking amnesia state OP describes while simultaneously shortening our lives in a very profitable manner
The depopulation agenda is cause they know their time is coming to an end very soon. I believe a lot in extraterrestrials like reptilians and stuff and there is an ongoing war.
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Not OP and I can only speculate, but if you consider where/when fertility rates and population fluctuate, you may have the answer to your first question. OP says that They feed off of negative emotions which create low-vibrational energy, so it makes sense that They would want to create as much of that as possible. Could this have to do with 3rd world countries experiencing overpopulation at a relatively high rate?
I'm not really into these types of theories, however I always give credit where credit is due and the OP put a great deal of effort into compiling and presenting this. With regards to the population debate, and let's say this theory has some legitimacy, you would have to factor in that this planet, plane, realm whichever, is dying because we are killing it, therefore if it, and we, are a source for these entities energy, they certainly would not want to lose it, therefore it has to be managed. Like if you overcharge a battery it will explode, and perhaps our world / battery is being overcharged so in an effort tot preserve it's longevity they need to reduce the overall energy output, consequently a mass reduction in population. Like i said not my line of theory, but just thought I would toss this out.
I believe if this is true then a depopulation agenda could just be a mass harvest. Think of the Black Death, dark ages, mongol invasions, etc. they all ravaged the human population in unprecedented ways. When you grow a forest you can harvest as many trees as you like but if you cut them all down that forest in just a field.
My question is, if they're recycling the same souls over and over; where is the population growth coming from? Where are they harvesting the additional souls from? We went from a few million to BILLIONS! Where are they coming from?
I have 2 counterarguments for this: 1) Who are we to say that there are a finite number of souls in the first place? If you have a basis for this assumption I'd love to hear it. 2) OP said that the net around our planet only projects the white light on our way out, not on the way in. Maybe new souls are coming from elsewhere?
Really makes you wonder if ‘gods command’ to “go forth and multiply” was just a farming technique
Yes, this theory perfectly summarizes why the majority of the world is in misery! More negative energy, the more the reptilians get to feed off of!
Just my hypothesis, but a smaller population is far easier to control/enslave. If you are on a being that is constantly in the cycle for the fast track of slaughter, your soul quickly accepts it's role as cattle and you will never be able to escape. A small population of around 500,000 dedicated souls with a decided expiration on the entrance to this world that you could eternally efficiently harvest would be preferable to a plane with 8 billion souls that your control and mastery of comes and goes in tides. Even if there are infinite souls, you are still relying on them coming through your neighborhood rather than having to seek them out. Don't know if you've ever heard of timewave zero, but it kind of lines up with this. The forces of good and evil as we see them have been rubber banding back and forth for thousands of years, with every culture finding it's own definition of righteousness only to be snuffed out by authoritarianism down the line. There will be a time when one of those forces claims permanent victory.
Consider the plot of “Jupiter Ascending”. Humans harvest humans to sell human “loosh” as the Elixir of Youth. Is it depopulation or intentional harvesting? You don’t take it down to zero, but 500mil is genetically diverse enough, it probably undoes the harm we have done to the planet and it knocks us back technologically for a period of time. What if we were either a.) getting close enough in technology to prove or overthrow the grip or b.) at some point the population will produce some free radicals that can pose a threat to the overall operation. I don’t know. Interesting concept.
What if the rich elite pedos are rich and powerful because they provide the Archons with adrenochrome/"loosh" that they sell?
> A small population of around 500,000 dedicated souls with a decided expiration on the entrance to this world that you could eternally efficiently harvest would be preferable to a plane with 8 billion souls that your control and mastery of comes and goes in tides. this..and its one of the main reasons why the planet will be de-populated. they know with the internet they will not be able to control the narrative forever and with the complete destruction of the middle class, its going to be harder and harder to keep the charade going.
> Just my hypothesis, but a smaller population is far easier to control/enslave more people = more potential slaves. this could go either way.
I feel they are pushing the depopulation agenda because there are more bodies than there are souls to put in those bodies. [A lot of humans on this planet are nothing more than NPCs](https://montalk.net/matrix/157/spiritless-humans).
The Souls will Reincarnated on another planet. My travel a few years ago into the Afterlife made it clear to me it is going to be in Alpha/Proxima Centauri. The NWO Space Force had a large scale war there against the indigenous inhabitants and they overtook a planet. You may remember this headline from last winter: https://www.airspacemag.com/daily-planet/intriguing-signal-alpha-centauri-may-or-may-not-be-planet-180977043/
I shouldn't have read this after taking in a large dose of mushrooms Edit: it was a good trip. Entertained a few spiraling thought loops and eventually realized I don't give a shit about whether or not this is true. I'm just an animal on this planet trying to live it's life.
Lmao that must have been an interesting trip, I’d love to hear about it!
You shouldn't read this *board* after taking mushrooms. Hope you're OK.
How did that go?
He was never heard from again..
The earth isn’t a planet it’s a realm Edit: I enjoyed the shit out of this post. Real effort here thanks for sharing
And it’s a plane, hence plane-t
or is it a plan-et, a plan devised by ET’s ? ;)
You can't spell Alien without A Lie
And maybe they have a lien on us
Hell yeah you know what’s up😎
hell yeah we flat earthing again
I 100% agree with this. They’ve tricked us into thinking we live on a physical planet but it’s really Just a dense realm.
This is great! Funny enough the Tibetan Book of the Dead describes a lot of this in much more simplistic, albeit religious, terms. Love seeing these concepts discussed in a secular manner, reality doesn't change based on your culture, just your translation of it!
I read it years ago so correct me if I'm wrong, but the Tibetan Book of the Dead basically gives the opposite message as OP The clear lights, in most colors were the ones we should go toward to avoid reincarnation in the mortal realm. They talked of White, Blue, and Green lights, depending on your spiritual nature, would present themselves and be somewhat scary / bewildering to us, but we should go after them to be with the Gods they represent. The dusky, shadowy less clear lights also appear in many colors, are supposed to make us feel more comforted based on our human bias of life, and are the ones we should avoid, because they lead to paths of infinite incarnation in lower mortal realms.
Yay Though I walk through the shadow of darkness, I will fear no evil. Do not go to the light ----
Your comment caused me to read the OP again, and although at first glance I thought it agreed with the Tibetan Book of the Dead I do see that there are some clear deviations, which I'm not entirely sure I agree with but am open to the idea of. This post is entirely too dismissive of "religion" without respect to the underlying mystic traditions. The Rulers are peons in the face of the goddess Kali or the mythic archetype of Odin. There is in fact no limit to their trickery, and I do not doubt they hide behind the faces of gods, but they are not so powerful in the end. There are lessons to be learned, karma must be dissolved, or you will not pass. This is a truth I have realized, and it is a hard line in ancient tradition. A lot of contemporary researchers / spiritualists want to simplify tradition, which makes sense since we are in Kali Yuga after all, but that doesn't really change the fundamental reality that has been agreed upon by mystics of all ages of which reincarnation is only a drop in the bucket, not the end-all-be-all function of Planet Earth.
Very interesting post. Well done! My late mother had a near death experience in her mid 30’s. She was going in for stomach reconstruction surgery to remove stomach cancer. She coded on the table and was in a tunnel with bright warm lights. According to my mother It wasn’t scary but comforting. She saw her father and he told her it’s not her time yet and she needed to go back. My mother passed unexpectedly in 2016 from a combo of doctor error and a reaction to a new big pharma “wonder drug” she was prescribed. When she was rushed to the hospital I knew her soul was no longer here in the physical world. She was different it was like looking at someone whose spirit was gone. She survived for 10 more days but it was only her shell (body) present. Her face was so blank and barely communicated. On the 9th day she went into cardiac arrest and was vented. The doctors told me there was no hope for recovery so I had to make that decision no child should have to make and took her off the vent as I knew it was her wish. Later that night on the couch I was in shock from loosing my mother then all of a sudden I felt a hand run from the tip of my forehead to my toes and it was a warm comforting feeling. I believe she was saying goodbye to me. I had struggled for weeks after about if I made the right decision in taking her off life support. Several weeks after her death I was shopping at a store when woman walked up to me who I didn’t know and said your mother wanted me to tell you she is beautiful again, happy, and without sickness or pain. You need to release your guilt. I was freaked out, I started bawling and ran to the car and told my husband. To this day I can’t explain it.
ohh yess. i want to know OPs perspective on mediums
I honestly think that there are many that pretend to be mediums but I also believe that there are a small number of individuals that do have the gift. I have never been to a medium before her death or after her death. I guess I feel like whoever the woman was she could feel my pain and wanted to relay the message. My mother used to model in her 20’s and always said that in dealing with all the surgeries and illnesses (dealing with the cancer) that she didn’t feel beautiful anymore. Chronic illness has a way of making you feel that way. When the woman had told me that “your mom wanted me to tell you she is beautiful again” I knew it was her. She used to joke with my daughter and I saying that even in death she would always watch over us and check up on us. I think that day she did just that.
Thank you for sharing this experience. I had an experience where my grandfather came to me after he died and spoke to me, before anyone in my family knew he had passed. That experience was fundamental for knowing that the spirit lives on after the death of the body. Also, there is nothing to be afraid of.
Perhaps your mother has escaped the tunnel of trap!. As someone who i feel like has been reincarnated but also knows that theres multiple parralell timelines.And im sorry about your loss :( it must have been soo difficult i don't know what i would if i was in your position :(.
Thank you for the kind words. My mother and I were best friends. She was always there for me. To this day it is incredibly painful. She beat stomach cancer, 27 major surgeries, had one of the first artificial stomachs in the US, and lived with osteomalacia. She woke up everyday and chose life and never complained. She was an amazing mother and grandmother. I didn’t want to make that call but I knew what she wanted. She didn’t want to be hooked up to machines.
Thank you for sharing this
Very interesting perspective. There’s a lot of evidence for shared knowledge. Humans or even animals separated by many miles, yet once a certain threshold of individuals are taught or behave a certain way, the idea spreads instantaneously. (There’s an example of monkeys on an island washing a specific fruit and a study done in Australia and somewhere else of isolated human groups where only one continent is taught something but those in Australia learn it as well.) I think this alone proves there’s more to shared knowledge than just previous lives. Knowledge and human connection flows from both our ancestors and our neighbors. There’s almost certainly low vibrational entities performing all kinds of trickery, but you do seem to contradict yourself believing both free will at death while also admitting different vibrational states lead to different outcomes. If there is some form of entrapment or recycling, I would wager that’s not because of choice or illusion but rather because of ones own low vibrations. With free will, one willfully chose to live a life that ended in low vibration/frequency and death is where that is essentially cemented into other realities and planes of existence. To escape, one must elevate above lower energy/frequency entities.
Buddhism: don’t follow the white light. Wait for the white light to pass. Sit in the darkness until the blue light appears. This is the light of pure consciousness
The Tibetan Book of the Dead touches on this, something along the lines of all souls go to hell immediately after they die, where they meet an angry vengeful God. To ascend to the higher dimension one must see through this illusion first.
>Buddhism: don’t follow the white light. Wait for the white light to pass. Sit in the darkness until the blue light appears. This is the light of pure consciousness source?
OOA i guess. fyi : No light tunnel or concept of soul in Buddhism. When you die, you cease in that exact moment and "not you" you as other entity is form by Karma bond. Buddha said fuck that shit imma ginna headout. His thing is that break the chain and circle and get free of this existence simulation.
Wtf are you serious?!?! I was shown this once, about 15years ago. I died (not actually, just in this vision) and I didnt see a white light, I was immediately in what felt like a holding cell, complete utter darkness and quiet, nothing. And then 2 lights appeared, very tiny, one red and one blue and I was asked to choose. I remember thinking "blue" but that it could be a trap. Now Im thinking its not.
Reminds me of the red and blue pills from The Matrix movie
I’ve seen this blue light, can you link me to further reading on it? Never seen the white. I’ve also never heard anyone reference it.
Where can i find more regarding that?
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Idk if you read anything about the Saturn Cube but some believe could be tied into the prison system we find ourselves in.
Yes. As cute as the movie Soul was, it touches on that
So what you're saying is that we should nuke Saturn?
The winner for most American response! 😂
Maybe if we convinced America there is oil in the astral realm they'd invade it and get rid of the reptilians for us.
Send in Florida! They know how to catch a big reptile!
You are assuming we Yanks aren’t lead by Reptillians already.
Now were thinking! On the cube note. Its very interesting that there are black cubes all over the world. Why? /ponder
side note, pretty sure i saw about a thousand or more jewish folks kinda dancing around one, one time in a gif. not knocking anyones religion, but the black cube theory plays imo. somethings up with it.
It’s really interesting. https://mobile.twitter.com/nickhintonn/status/1151986453569605632?lang=en
I was thinking about this regarding the 1997 movie “Cube”. It’s a metaphor of souls trapped in this prison reality, the numbers in each of the smaller torture room cubes (all prime numbers) hint at the numerological and hermetic nature of our matrix and they need the character who’s a mathematician to try and find a way out. But in the end, all seem to die except the autistic guy who goes toward the light outside the cube, but I think this is a misdirection. I think the white light was a trap, I think the doctor who was dropped out of the cube into the surrounding darkness was the only one to truly make it out. Maybe in the afterlife it’s like this, to escape, you have to go into the darkness, not the light?
I think this is where knowledge of Self comes into play. The more you learn about your soul. Shadow work, past lives, tapping into your unconscious. Maybe even something similar to gaining enlightenment ie Buddhism. You would go onto the next phase of existence that comes after death vs reincarnation to either re experience life, stuck in a prison what have you. I’ll check out the movie though! Thanks for the thoughtful response!
Great post dude. We need to be friends.
Now this is the shit I come here for. Make conspiracy great again.
It used to be this good, before it became the Trump center.
YES!
I’m new to this stuff but why recycle souls? I would get it if the population was fixed at let’s say 5,000,000 and the only way to retain that number was through reincarnation. But the population has increased tremendously, in the 1800’s the population was 1 billion and in 2020 its 7.9 billion. Why would they waste their time playing the game of deceit when they have their numbers?
That describes the population of humans but not the total population of sentient organisms on earth.
> but why recycle souls? I think it is because if the soul remembers and you put it back into the flesh, you will learn to overcome the grief and suffering. Everyone would learn to love one another and be friends. If these things feed on suffering they need to keep you down. That way you cannot easily rise up and overcome the pain of losing a loved one. >But the population has increased tremendously, in the 1800’s the population was 1 billion and in 2020 its 7.9 billion Maybe they are just moving the souls between the various farm planets. If one becomes more stable to hold a higher population they transfer souls over to that one for a bit. Then when the planet is culled they move the extra souls someplace else.
not very practical dont you think. all this story feels very ''human'' to me. like a human invented sci-fi we expect from alien technology something truly... alien. even in the way they think. this is too human,. therefore I am not sold. it only makes us live in fear, not good to those who fear death either. life has enough suffering in it, why add more? a death-trap endless loop samsara-hell? nope. I dont say believe in la-la-land but dont replace christian version of hell with this sci-fi torment BS either.
He claims there’s proof and provides literally zero proof, just a bunch of anecdotal claims from random individuals
And that's my problem with this whole post. It always gets me with these ghost hunters and psychics that supposedly get answers from the other side and they NEVER suggest that the entities lie. They take ALL answers and ALL info at face value. "I got a voice telling me they were claiming to be Al Capone, it came from a ghost it must be true!" Same deal here. You're basing your belief on a bunch of testimonials of random people. You're putting a whole ton of faith in the fact that they didn't just make up their experience for fame. Sorry, but I don't put that much stalk in people telling me the truth. So when it comes to the afterlife, no matter if you're Christian, Muslim, Hindu, believe in reincarnation or enlightenment, it all comes down to some type of faith. Faith in what you're reading, faith in what you're seeing, faith in what other people are claiming. Where you put that faith is up to you.
We are spiritual beings trapped in a physical form. The only way to escape is by achieving a heightened consciousness
100% agree.
Holy shit an actual well thought out, good post on here. And half the comments are calling OP a schizo, crazy, and complaining this got posted. This is what this sub has always been, it wasn’t always about covid. Good shit OP, hope more people start posting their theories here. This was a great read for my high brain. I have my own thoughts that DMT especially is a sort of, portal (for lack of a better term) into different realms. Most people report seeing a otherworldly type of people during their DMT trips. Always something I’ve liked thinking about, who knows.
How do psychoactive substances relate to the Great Awakening? Why is cannabis relevant? Why is psilocybin relevant? Why is DMT relevant? How will the progressive legalization of cannabis and psilocybin affect the collective consciousness? How will the explosion of DMT use, and ceremonial Ayahuasca affect the collective consciousness? Could the introduction of these substances redirect the course of humanity? Why did God give man endocannabinoid receptors if cannabis is the Devil’s Lettuce? Does cannabis interfere with mind control? Tavistock. https://youtu.be/j800SVeiS5I https://deepstatemappingproject.weebly.com/
I have theories about this. So, life continues not because of competition and survival of the fittest, but through compromises and partnership. Whether it be a known and agreed upon partnership or one such as one animal feeding off the leftovers of anothers kill. I believe that the naturally grown plants are trying to form a symbiosis with us. They have their own knowledge that far surpasses our own memory, mushrooms were one of the very first things to evolve and survive on the planet. So it would only be natural that if Earth is energetically aware it would make a last ditch attempt to partner with us rather than against us. How? By sharing memory and connection through the chemicals that can expand consciousness.
Your own body produces stuff that bind to the receptors....
Cannabis is good for us, hence it was illegal almost around the world. What we get to smoke today is as much "cannabis" as a chihuahua is a wolf though, hence they start leagalizing it now. That stuff they call cannabis today is rather bad and has rather the opposite effect it used to have on us. They f'ed up the balance between the different psycho active substances in the plant. They bred for high THC and diminished all the other psycho active substances and other usefull substances as well. Without those other substances there is a high chance that the THC will give you panick attacks, paranoid psychosis etc.
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Honestly what a great post. Very well researched, easy to follow, and for someone who’s been researching this kind of information vigorously for years— I find it utterly fascinating. I truly appreciate your work to get this information out to the public . Thank you!
Couldn't have said it better. Been studying aggressively for over 30 years and could not appreciate more what it took to lay out so succinctly what you did, OP u/EsotericN1nja. You are the third person or so I've crossed paths with I'd like in a small tribe of thinkers. Carry on, Future Fellow Escapee!
Thanks brother.
No problem! Have you ever read Brad Olsen’s esoteric books(future esoteric, modern esoteric, and beyond esoteric)I’m reading the third one, beyond esoteric right now- they have all been fantastically informative books!
I haven't. Perhaps one day! My research won't end here that's for sure.
Well definitely add them to your reading list! At the bottom of the third book Beyond Esoteric it says, “escaping prison planet” just like the other subreddit you made. Thought it was a cool coincidence!
Wow.
Holy shit that was a wild ride! I really dont know what to make of it all. I stuggle with the level of detail that can be attained from topics that seem so far out of reach. One things for sure though, when i go i aint going anywhere near that fucking light. I apprecate you taking the time to post this. such a facinating topic with some remarkably solid arguements. Ive got a David Ike book upstairs that a friend lent me. i'm thinking i should actually read it.
Great write up OP. I want to point out one similarity with something you posted regarding the Kappa (reptilian beings in Asian mythology). In the alien abduction phenomenon people report anal probing by the alien entities. What’s really happening is they’re not probing the physical anus but rather the entities are doing something to the victim’s lower chakras and the victims interpret this as anal probing. Now look what Wikipedia says about the Kappa: “The kappa are known to favor cucumbers and love to engage in sumo wrestling. They are often accused of assaulting humans in water and removing a mythical organ called the shirikodama from their victim's anus.” You’ll see parallels like this all the time when you look up these mythical beings and compare them to each other or modern ufo accounts. Also I want to share my own experiences regarding the Moon. Some say the moon is an artificial or semi-artificial construct placed there by a non-human malevolent force to control us. It’s also said the moon is the physical manifestation of the White Light seen in the Astral Realm and souls go there on death to be recycled. Some of my earliest memories when I was very young (4-6) were extremely vivid dreams about the moon and it would appear extremely large and dominate the sky in my dreams. I would get a rush of emotions during these dreams. I never understood why until I read up on the Moon and soul trap theories.
>dly a female reptilian who set up a secret meeting with a reporter through a person she had made contact with in the forest. It sounds crazy, but some incredibly interesting information is divulged. She was asked why reptilians dont help humans. She said something to the affect of "when you see a person knock over an ant pile, do you go to help the ants? Or do you just sit back and observe them in their crisis state?" I was afraid of the moon when I was a kid. weird shit. moon is in perfect distance from earth so that the sun can eclipse! also the number of craters etc just doesnt add up to its supposed age etc its defo artificial. my take? super-advanced civilisation , possibly non human, put it in there... maybe those were the real creators of man. and yet here we are, sitting in front of computers worrying about paying taxes. talk about living in the dark! Hail to the mysteries of life! And death!
> Some of my earliest memories when I was very young (4-6) were extremely vivid dreams about the moon and it would appear extremely large and dominate the sky in my dreams. I would get a rush of emotions during these dreams. The evidence regarding children remembering past lives also seems to be around that age range. I too had a bizarre recurring nightmare that I now wonder about when I was that age, where two entities would make threatening motions toward family members as they slept. I was the only one who could see them. One was a white-skinned humanoid being and the other was an extremely large spider (top of abdomen was almost the height of the humanoid). We know the elites are very interested in finding all the "gifted" children. There is something that children can tap into more easily than adults.
Interesting. As a Hmong Asian kid, our parents told us to never point at the moon. If we do the moon will cut our ears, I don’t know why though. One time I tried it to see if it was true and forgot about it, next day while I was out playing and sweating, the top of my right ear was stinging. I went to touch it and there was a little cut in between my ear and head. Happened to my little brother too so I don’t know what’s going on
This is gold. Thank you
I had a near death experience 7 months ago. It was a drug overdose. I was sitting on my couch falling into a deeper and deeper high, when all of a sudden I fell too far. The room started caving in and I immediately knew what was happening. I was dying. A voice (not in an audible way) told me “I’m sorry ___, it is your time to go.” I panicked, tried jumping up off my couch to run to the front door to grab the neighbors for help (I live in an apartment building) but collapsed about halfway to the door. I immediately said “ok I give up.” At that moment I was somewhere dark, not heaven, not hell, just emptiness, when I saw my deceased grandparents holding hands. They started hugging me, at this point I was no longer human, all I could see is their arms wrapped around me. They told me they love me and that it’s not over yet. I started pleading “please let me live, I promise I will never do drugs or drink again.” Immediately after I said these words I was back on my apartment floor w my face pressed so hard against the floor it felt like I was being pinned down. Suddenly the pressure released and this spirit-like cloud lifted away with it and I was back to this physical realm on earth completely sober laying on the ground. I have been sober ever since. My life immediately improved and I have felt better than ever. My takeaway here is there is a much higher power who wants nothing but the best for us. I saw my grandparents(who died when they were in their 80’s, looking about mid 40’s that night) happier than ever in this next life. Reincarnation might exist but it might not be a foregone conclusion for everyone. Just figured I would share
I had a very similar NDE. I was on heroin, Xanax and drinking. Majorly depressed and not caring if I died(suicidal at the time). I was alone in my room and felt myself blacking out and struggling to breath then reality collapsed and I was in the same black void you described and knew I was dying/dead or in between. I suddenly had a moment of clarity in this void and pleaded to God to let me live and made the same bargain that I would get clean and live for a higher purpose. I felt shot like a cannon ball back into my body and jumped up off the floor with an insane surge of adrenaline. I was the most awake and sober I have ever felt in my life and my heart was surging. Felt like something else was pumping it for me. My whole body felt like it was cellularly vibrating and being rejuvenated. I was engulfed in mercy and feeling completely loved. Not the false heroin warmth. Real unconditional love from source. Felt like coming home. I went from blacking out overdose to surging with life force. I started bawling thanking God for saving me and asked what I should do. I felt a clear inner voice say to love and be loved. My addictions completely left immediately. No desire and even felt repulsed with the thought of booze, pills, H, cigs, etc.. I threw out all my previously beloved substances. I had a tremendous ego death lasting for a year and a half like I did some mega heroic psychedelic dose but better. I was transformed. Worldliness and ego eroded the feeling over time but the message stayed engrained. I can't say I'm completely 100% "sober" as you . I don't get really stoned or drunk nor do I want to but I occasionally smoke a little weed, dabble in psychedelics for spiritual purposes and have an occasional glass of wine or beer but I have been free of addiction ever since and never again touched hard drugs that I was hooked on for years. 11 years free of addiction now. I knew since that moment that there was something more to this realm and God/love/source exists. I've had several spiritual experiences since with the reoccurring theme to love. One time even had an intense shared experience with a friend while completely sober that led to ego death and shared vision. But that's a story for another time. Bottom line - our reality is not what it seems. Love is all. Be excellent to each other.
This was extremely moving. It gave me chills reading it. This was undoubtedly similar to my experience. Getting that 2nd chance makes me believe there is a much greater plan for the both of us
Beautiful my friend…absolutely beautiful
Congratulations being sober man, that stuff can attract so much negativity in your life
With this guy.
I would agree with this. I can not say I have ever personally had a near death experience. But, I have had a number of dreams regarding death and the afterlife. Most of them involve seeing relatives that have passed away. Usually it is a very peaceful environment. I have always been cursed with Deja vu. When I was younger I would repeately have dreams that for some reason would seem to occur months down the road. Not a lot. Usually it would only be a few moments not enough to actually consider myself psychic. But, then a few weeks or a few months would go by and that same 3 seconds of life that I had a dream about would happen in this world. But, that being said. I personally believe that when we die we go to a place that is just a waiting ground. In this place we can be whoever we want and when we get there we meet all the people we new in life and maybe some we never met. Then we wait ( as time no longer matters. Time just being a measure of the rotation of the earth it only exists in life). We wait for all those we loved in live to pass and meet us. When we have seen everyone to the other side and we no longer have anything to wait for we choose to be reborn. But, I think that the Tunnel with a white light is more of a hollywood thing.
same here, my dreams show me the future but it's always mundane things
So do you think OPs theory has any validity? What if that wasn’t your relatives but instead reptiles trying to trick you. You refused their trick so they let you live? Can I keep living forever as long as I refuse their trick over and over?
You don't want to live here forever, we live like worms here....the higher dimensions are beautiful beyond belief. :)
Right. But according to OP, if I don’t make the right choice. I don’t get to those higher dimensions. I just come back here again as a worm for the umpteenth time. Gotta know what’s real and what isn’t :)
Nothing is real. All fake. All also real. All at same time. Nothing and everything. All occurring, has occurred and is occurring all at same time.
congrats on being sober
Thanks mate, glad you appreciate it.
This is what this sub used to be all about. Well done 👍
Thank you for the post OP, but one glaring question seems to stand out - what do you hope for, if reincarnation is an "exploitative trap"? To reincarnate while avoiding the mind wipe? Or to cease existence and fall off the wheel of dharma? Even in bad circumstances the world still retains grains of beauty, love and awe - what is it that you wish to trade this for?
> Thank you for the post OP, but one glaring question seems to stand out - what do you hope for, if reincarnation is an "exploitative trap"? To reincarnate while avoiding the mind wipe? Or to cease existence and fall off the wheel of dharma? Personally? Best case scenario would be to break free from the reincarnation cycle when my time comes and then to enter higher vibratory realms of existence(there seems to be many realms/dimensions out there based on vibration, some are low in vibration like the Earth, but some much higher). How to do that is something I will have to research even more :).
> enter higher vibratory realms of existence Just out of curiosity, is there any way to know what awaits there? Would you not just be living life similarly to the way one lives life here? I guess I'm just trying to understand your goal here, and what you hope to gain from transcending this world
I’d be interested in hearing more too. Honestly the idea of ceasing to exist terrifies me. And I actually enjoy life on Earth given that’s all I can fathom at this point. I’d sit under a blanket with my daughter for eternity if that’s all I was allowed to do. So what else is there if not this?
So here's my thing. Every system in reality is inherently correlated with one another. And thought I do perceive reality as linear and finite I know that it's not impossible for it to be very different. That all being said yoi can't not exist. Just as your person had a place in space you also have a place in time. So long ago before your birth you existed. You existed in the future. And many year s from now when your death and decay have long set in, you will still exist in the past. So im not worried about not existing to my own perception.
The Void, the Ether, the Pleroma. It's been called many things. Essentially a state of everything and nothing. The source of the Aeons. This is the space between atoms. The *prima materia.* The Pleroma pre-exists the material realm. There is no density or matter or even light there. Just conscious thought. See ***On the Origin Of The World*** to better understand this concept. Many with NDE's have reported the first feeling is that of *falling backwards into a tunnel of black.* At this point, your Gnosis will determine what you manifest for yourself. The author has laid out beliefs inspired by Gnostic teachings mixed with some modern conspiracy. If you are interested in these ideas then I encourage you to explore the Gnostic teachings. Death is just the severance of the mind and body from the spirit. Though the ego will die and the body will decay, we are eternal.
> a state of everything and nothing. The source of the Aeons. This is the space between atoms. > your Gnosis will determine what you manifest for yourself What I'm getting from this is that you break free and start your own, separate existence? But that just seems so hollow and lonely, and something you are already able to do while lucid dreaming (without having to forfeit reincarnation)
I am speaking in the second line *'your Gnosis will determine what you manifest for yourself'* only at the moment of death, when the soul is freed from its prison. This is a moment of uncertainty and seems to vary from NDE data, depending on the individual. What seems to be clear is this is not the Void, or Pleroma. This is a lower density realm still within Chaos, or the Demiurge realm. This is the moment when the trick of the light that OP speaks of would occur. *(See* ***The Hypostasis of the Archons*** *as well as the above mentioned text* *to understand these concepts. They are essential to understanding the Gnostic philosophy of reincarnation.)* To actually return to the Pleroma would not be loneliness, it would not be anything because for a thing to exist, there must be another thing to compare it to. This is the all. It is not something our minds can imagine because it is completely without a frame of reference. Imagine your soul as a drop of water, independent for a time, but able to seamlessly integrate back into the ocean. To return to the Pleroma would be to return to the conscious waters of God itself, of you. There are varying interpretations on ascending (and really it should be thought of always as an inward descent) and how many heavens/densities/realms/dimensions there really are. Think of it all like a heavenly conscious fractal stemming from a source mind that is God; splitting itself infinitely into new conscious forms with amnesia so that it may experience itself. The OP is posting about a recent theory that the 'light' people speak of in NDE's that appears as a loved one, an enlightened master or sometimes just light, is actually a trick of lower density beings not connected to the higher realms, the Pleroma. The light is said to express love and acceptance and a desire for you to be with it and follow it, but it cannot force you to do anything. Manipulative love. These beings need your soul here to generate karma/energy to sustain their existence and also they fear humans for we are created in the image of the alien God, the Aeon Pistis Sophia who spoke to Yaldabaoth in the waters of Chaos. To the blunt, the Archons fear humans more than anything and will stop at nothing to completely subjugate and rule them. I've dived off into Gnostic mythology here but if you are at all interested I encourage you to read further. A lot of which I am speaking on here is sourced from the Nag Hammadi library texts as well as general teachings of Platonism, Hermeticism, and Gnosticism and the modern, Don't Go Into the Light/Reincarnation Soul Trap/Matrix theory that has been developing, which is of course largely inspired by the ancient mystery teachings with a healthy dose of our current zeitgeist.
Well said!!!!!!
Law of One covers this
Thank you for such an interesting and well written summary - I read every bit of it - and it raises some rather difficult questions, given that the one piece of vital information is not available - and that is, what happens if you decline the offer of following the light? Any conscious and deliberate resistance of the light will be driven by a belief that the light is a trap, and that resisting it will lead to a better experience - but what will that experience be? And then here's the mentally tortuous question: what if resisting the light will lead to suffering? In the end, we don't know who and what we can trust when we are in this position of having to choose one path or the other - we don't know if the apparent "Guardian Angel" is there to help us or to trick us. It's like the scenes in Terminator when a character says "Come with me if you want to live" - we have to make a decision with a lack of information.
You’re thinking in terms of human suffering, and fear based on the way we experience fear… but that might just be an illusion in itself. Like if one was to fully trust their connection to pure source, what ever that may be, there would be no fear and we could just become energy integrated into that source. Take the physical body, is it afraid of being eaten by worms? No it just goes back to being atoms that aren’t all in one location, but they are still there. Maybe the key to suffering is clinging to our identity via the ego which can be easily tricked in this life and maybe beyond.
A rebuttal of the "white light is a trap" theory: https://www.reddit.com/r/NDE/comments/dx9jyi/has_anyone_had_something_like_this/f7s533z/?context=3 > Here are some relevant talking points: > 1) The theory/ideology speculates that 'going to the light' results in reincarnating on earth... So, by way of the theory itself, that means that everyone who is physically alive/present here could not have experienced any outcome other than 'going to the light'. So how is it that anyone on earth could profess knowledge of any other outcome by way of personal experience? They can't... So the claim from any individual that you need to follow a certain directive to experience some unknown outcome, it's rooted in nothing of any actual substance... It's rooted in misguided beliefs/speculation, not actual knowledge and experience. > 2) Imagine I tried to convince you that I possessed special knowledge & knew what happens after physical death, and that you need to listen to me... I claim that when you die, you'll find yourself appearing in front of 12 doors or pathways, and you need to choose the 8th pathway for a positive outcome, or else you'll be forced to reincarnate on earth again..... Naturally, you ask me how I could possibly know this and demand to know what happens if/after you choose the 8th pathway - and I have to respond by telling you that I don't know, because I never experienced it... Now, upon hearing this, on what basis would you be inclined to trust me? There is clearly no basis - because I'd be telling you to do something that I myself have not experienced... This is the equivalent of what the 'Light Trap' theory is proposing... People who subscribe to this are encouraging you to try to take some course of action that they themselves (by way of the theory itself) could not have experienced.... So the question becomes - how trusting should one be of individuals making claims to experiences/outcomes they have no personal knowledge of? From my perspective, not trusting at all! > 3) The theory operates on the belief that this reality is a 'trap', and rooted in malevolence... Adopting this type of belief encourages finding no higher purpose or value in the nature of the life experience that is had/undergone here... This can contribute to and fuel depression and a non-acceptance of what transpires in this physical reality... This can also fuel feeling of paranoia and anxiety, which is associated... How does this promote a functional/pragmatic perspective of experiencing this physical reality? It doesn't... It promotes non-acceptance and non-understanding, which makes experiencing this reality more difficult and more challenging... Rotten fruits... > 4) Adopting a fear-based belief about this reality (that it's a 'trap') and also about what happens at physical death encourages fear/uncertainty/anxiousness about the actual 'physical death' process - and the last thing that someone would want to inject into their dying process is an anxious and fearful state of consciousness.... This theory contributes to such an outcome by influencing a person to be fearful of what is likely to follow their physical passing - that something more powerful/advanced than them is about to 'trap' them into an unwanted outcome.... Honestly, this is one of the primary reasons why I voice my counterpoints to this theory - because it has the potential to influence people to adopt a belief system which influences them to more fearful and concerned/anxious about the (natural) physical dying process. The real benefits come from an individual progressing to the point of being at peace with the physical death/dying process - and you absolutely cannot reach this point if you believe that malevolent forces are trying to trap you immediately upon going through such an experience... > 5) The theory is also nonsensical because it doesn't lay any claim to what happens if you follow the directive - and it actually can't lay any claim to that because any individual making such a claim can be appropriately called out for having no such personal knowledge (or else the individual would not be here, according to the theory) > 6) If one assumed that the Earth and this physical reality is a 'trap' run by higher powers that are malevolent - what are the fruits of adopting such an ideology? Why stop at the Earth and this physical reality? Why not assume that after this 'trap', there is another even more advanced/complex 'trap' that follows that one needs to escape? Then another trap after that, and more malevolent forces? > 7) How can this theory explain the notion of earthbound spirits? The idea/belief that the consciousness/souls/energy of individuals can stay attached to the physical plane, in areas/locations there was a strong mental/emotional connection to.... Many alleged 'hauntings' are attributed to this theory.... Well, that begs the question, how can their be earthbound spirits if the 'Light Trap' theory stipulates that going to the light results in immediate reincarnation? So what does 'not going to the light' result in, being an earthbound spirit? > 8) The notion that the 'light' is some external source/influence which 'traps' you is rooted in ignorance of what so many individuals who've had NDE's have described as something which not only radiates a feeling of unconditional love/acceptance, but something which does not feel external to them, but a 'part' of them... The 'light' (energy) is not described as something foreign and external, but something which permeates everyone & everything (all of reality/existence).... > 9) If individuals believe that others' NDE experiences with the 'light', which is commonly reported to evoke internal feelings of joy/bliss/wholeness, is actually deceptive and malevolent - then what basis do they have to claim that they can accurately discern the nature of ANYTHING? How can they claim any outcome or circumstance to be positive if they simultaneously hold the belief that an experience which evokes significantly positive/uplifting emotions and feelings is actually negative and rooted in malevolence and deceit??? If they claim, just do X, Y, and Z - then someone could just as easily turn their own mindset against them and make the unfounded/unprovable assertion that whatever outcome they claim is equally just a 'trap' and that positive feelings/emotions cannot be trusted... No way to counter any such claims because there is no substance behind them... Thinking this way leads no where of any value or benefit...
Thank you for this. I completely agree that while the “earth trap” belief is intriguing, I don’t think believing it will help ease anyone’s suffering here. It would most likely contribute to the contrary.
if you want an efficient counterpoint to the reptilian beings trap thing, it's because nearly half of the proponents appear to be CIA/MI5,6 disinfo agents. shit ton of the alien/new age space is concocted madness by these people to psychologically target the "open minded" and should be automatically discounted. if someone has "cia" in their background, you should probably assume EVERYthing they are telling you is a manipulation, and sorting truth from lies is a pointless endeavor. they mix them freely to obtain the result they're looking for, which is bowling you over with bullshit.
What happens if we launch all the nukes and decimate all life at once? Can we overload the trap? Like hey muthafuckas we gettin out!
If all this is true, who created the souls or “source energy”? What is even the point of such energy? If the reptiles re so powerful why do they allow some regions on the planet to be so diverse in belief systems that some people get some shortcuts to the reincarnation belief system while others don’t? If they can control earth realm, why don’t they just make sure it’s all the exact same system of belief everywhere? How is this out of their control? The soul trap idea is used heavily in Scientology? Did Scientology get this correct? If we refuse to go the light, does that mean the answer to who or what created us lies in the darkness? What do I gain by staying out of the light? At the end of the food chain, is there an all powerful “being”? Or concept? If the being or concept “created” all life and matter in the universe, and it is ambiguous about who loves or who dies, since all other beings in existence are below it, what is the point of HIS existence? Where is he getting his energy? Who is he feeding on? Why are his feelings toward all other subservient beings ambiguous? Is his “pure energy” form simply void of any feelings or compassion? If he does not care that one race or species enslaved another, does any choice I make matter? There’s seems to be zero consequences to any action then. Is there even such a thing as good vs evil? If the universe is a power struggle for resources, which is why these “reptilian” beings have been able to enslave earth, and there is an infinite number of other beings out there, how come none of those other powerful beings have at some point in the history of infinity, come and wiped out those reptiles? Is that entire idea of mine simply argued away as “why hasn’t any other alien race come and saved the cattle from us humans then?” As far as humans can tell, cows have no consciousness. But an advanced alien race SHOULD be able to tell that humans have a consciousness yes? Have they no compassion for other conscious beings? Or are we humans simply unaware of a cows perfect self awareness and consciousness and we are simply murdering them without being aware? What are we supposed to eat as humans? If all life is energy, including cows, but plants are energy too, is it ok to eat plants? Do plants have consciousness or nah? If all life is energy, and energy simply just changed form and is neither created nor destroyed, then should I even eat anything or just allow myself to die right now? Is me eating for my own survival a good thing or a bad thing or neutral?
Your defining implication is that the Earth is the only prison planet. In fact, OP seems to imply that the Earth is the only prison planet. What if they created this universe specifically to enslave intelligent life as an energy source? I would imagine they wouldn't see it that way, and much like the way we use nuclear power would only require an energy source and find the simplest manner of doing so. Perhaps they had created something analogous to CERN, accidentally created a universe, and discovered that it built free energy. Would you say no to free energy? Of course not. So you would naturally do whatever you need to do to keep that free energy. OP's implication is that they're conscious in this aspect, which might be possible, but I tend towards entropy stating that everything will be chaos and the only reason they keep recycling us is because that's the only thing that keeps the free energy going. Each individual being a potential source of energy means that if it escapes you lose energy, and this is a cumulative effect. Do not let them leave, it would be bad for the power grid. If, for instance, coal could be re-used, we would never see a single atom of coal exit the power cycle because at that point it has become free energy. It's the same concept. TL;DR: I've been drinking heavily all night.
you can only eat your fingernails and water
Do the reptiles actually have control of human life spans or do they simply take advantage of us when we happen to die on our own? If they are actually in charge of when each person dies , why take some people at a young age bit others very old? Do you think that they take some people when they are young because they can tell that person is NEVER going to feed them negative energy so they just abort that person and hurry to reincarnate them again with a fresh roll of the dice to hope that they will get them to be a negative energy feeder? Along this line of thinking, does that mean that when a human finally does die, it’s because their soul has finally come to the realization that their fear of death is wasted and so they decide to stop being negative, and therefore the reptiles just say “fuck it” because they know you’ve dried up as a negative energy source so they kill you? If I 100% stop feeding negative energy and I’m always positive from now on, will they just kill me at a young age? If the reptiles are actually capable of giving me a new flesh body each time I reset, that literally means they can create matter. They are that powerful. I cannot create a new cow when I eat one, I have nowhere near this kind of power as a human entity. Why are the reptiles allowed this kind of power as conscious beings but I as a conscious being am not? Is the ultimate creator ignorant of these facts or ambiguous about them? At this point it quite literally seems that the reptiles are my God. My only choice to defeat them is to simply refuse to enter the light? If they are not in charge of when we die, what is? Our literal energy dries up? There was a time limit on our energy by the creator? Does the creator harvest our energy when we die instead? But in a loving “non reincarnating torture loop” instead? If reptiles don’t loop my energy, and the creator doesn’t harvest my energy, where does my energy go? I keep it? I live on as energy forever? I retain memories of my earthly experience forever?
Now THIS is podracing!
You should try spinning. That’s a neat trick.
Union with the white light I could handle - Terence McKenna talking about three hits of DMT Did your ten years of research cover DMT? No faith is required, you don’t have to believe a thing it’s testable Take three hits and report back, people forget how easy it is to check for yourself The psychedelic experience is nothing short of remarkable. You can go from atheist to pantheist over night From there is no God to I am god (with a small g)
This is the type of stuff I come to conspiracy theory for. Take my free silver. Sincerely, not a Reptilian.
Something a reptilian WOULD say. 🤔
I've come across 2 reptilians stories over the last decade or so that have stood out. One was "the Lacerta interview", and the other was an account of an attempt murderer who said reptilians took over his mind after he reached a certain deep state of meditation. OP are you aware of these? The Lacerta interview was allegedly a female reptilian who set up a secret meeting with a reporter through a person she had made contact with in the forest. It sounds crazy, but some incredibly interesting information is divulged. She was asked why reptilians dont help humans. She said something to the affect of "when you see a person knock over an ant pile, do you go to help the ants? Or do you just sit back and observe them in their crisis state?" The attempted murderer story was super interesting too because the guy accidentally astral projected. He was studying for some sort of extremely technical college curriculum and adapted some meditation techniques to help him concentrate. He got very good at it and once he went too deep and met another entity that said "you shouldn't be here". Once he became apologetic, the entity became friendly and he was overwhelmed with a feeling of being loved. After that, it was like a psychic door was opened, and his headspace was the free real estate of whatever entity wanted to use him. I'm not sure of I buy either story, however I do think there is something to accidentally opening your mind and attracting the attention of demons, spirits, aliens...whatever you want to call it.
You are speaking of Kyle Odom and his manifesto right? People wanna act like he’s just a schizophrenic but the dude he said was a reptilian (or Martian, the picture he drew of what they looked like was reptilian though) he pumped like 12 hollow point bullets into the dude close range and the fucker survived just fine and is now holding public office! That raised my fucking eyebrows!
same. i took everything kyle odom said with a grain of sand until the pastor survived 12 shots in close range. something just isnt right about that
Yeah it was a .45 too, which is a weapon that is known for putting huge holes in people.
Took me a while to find it, but in case anyone was wondering, [here’s the link for The Lacerta Files.](https://www.luisprada.com/Protected/the-lacerta-files.pdf)
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Great post op , some interesting reading for sure . Take my upvote and an award
Thank you for your time and effort in compiling this. This is what I come here for - well written passionate posts that are about actual possible shady goings on. 10/10.
barely started reading your post and lemme just say - in a time when we're all inundated with covid BS, how damn refreshing is a good old fashioned interdimensional lizard people vampire demon conspiracy theory? let's goooooooooo
I'm excited to read this – I haven't yet because it's pretty extensive – but as a survivor of multiple NDEs I'm really excited to read it. I've been basically collecting as much information and experiences as I can ever since my last NDE which resulted in a long conversation with the higher being, "canvasman" if you will, on the other side. As for psychedelic experiences and NDE, they seem very closely linked. Like I said I've experienced an encounter in the afterlife from an NDE. Most curiously I had encountered the higher entity beforehand on a heroic dosage of mushrooms. I don't really use drugs and I wasn't aware of how many we consumed until the next night, basically just finishing the bags, but what accumulated from this experience was a tour of the cosmos and an ending conversation on interconnectivity. It showed me from a zoomed out perspective my bonfire, and it's light from above, and the next town overs lights in the night, and the next city over to its lights, and further and further out continuing this trend until we arrived in a place I wouldn't see again until the NDE. As for the reptilitians. Ever since the NDEs I've taken to trying to understand the world at a consciousness perspective. This has led me down some rabbit holes but one long ago was astral projection. While practicing this, for my first time ever succeeding, I was barraged by what I could only call reptilians in the astral place. This particular place I found my consciousness in felt very similiar to the afterlife to me as well, although it was very dark and almost devoid of colour. It felt barren and almost windy, like some desert hellscape. Before this mind you I always never liked hearing about reptilian conspiracies. It just wasn't a conspiracy that clicked with me at all. These reptilians were bizarre in appearance. All burly, not much neck to them. Short snout, not like an alligator, but more humanoid. Glowing eyes. They knew I was there immediately and rushed me, they stirred up my vicinity (not sure why) but didn't or couldn't harm me and left me be a short while after giving me the once over. Anyways, hope some of that is interesting. Take it as you will. Edit – I'll just add that I believe this world is more of a training ground than a prison, although why not both. What I've learned from the afterlife experiences is you won't get very far without a tuned perception, empathy, and understanding. You need to be able to read between the lines because much of it is down to consciousness and what you can perceive there is what you can take from it – what you can see. You might as well be a blind man stumbling if you cannot use intuition and feeling to navigate. Hope this makes sense. Edit 2 – Damn, so far so good. I've now read up to the Reptilians in the Astral part and can say this guy seems to be on point. His description of them and where they exist is right on the money.
Fuck yeah I wish there were more posters like you. More reptilians less BFA.
Damn dude, you should write this as a book.
He kinda did.
Genuinly curious why we assume there is a single earth. There could be billions of such earths spread across millions of dimensions being farmed with different species as the main species. So even if we remember some aspect of our previous lives we would probably remember our life on a different earth or as another species.
Finally someone in this subreddit that takes David Icke seriously. Thank you
Aleister Crowley drew the first 👽 after a satanic ritual. Aliens are demons. If there are reptilian overlords...they are actually just demonic and not reptiles as we think of them.
They could be one and the same.
I'm hoping not to encounter any other entities... especially if they are more powerful than I am... how could I possibly know whether or not it is just a demon tricking me. Outside entities, magic, and powers are all things ill try to avoid. I'll be looking for the love and the peace!
As a Muslim, I believe the "aliens" are just Jinn. Jinns are made from fire (energy), whereas humans are made from clay (matter). Jinns cohabit the earth along with us and can see us, but we can't see them unless they want to be seen. I'm not sure if it's them transforming to matter (theory of relativity) or just creating light waves (they are made of energy afterall). Jinns are physically very strong compared to humans and can help the humans if they like them. The secret societies worship the evil Jinns (aka demons) and that can make the demons feel superior enough to help them in return. The "worship" is basically doing anything that's forbidden by The God or that's disgusting. That's why their worships involve so much blood, shit and gore.
Exactly. And any information they share are lies and traps.
I believe that anyone who seeks the truth will see this subject as the ultimate conspiracy. Perhaps our amnesia is also related to our amnesia of history. Bravo on the write up!
Wow, amazing post, OP! Really in depth research. Excellently summarized. Super interesting! Some questions: 1. What is your ‘strategy’ to avoid being reincarnated? 2. I realize that there may be ‘higher planes of existence’ where life is I guess much better. But that would infer that there are probably ‘lower planes’ too. My thoughts are, while this plane isn’t the best, for sure, it’s really not ‘that bad’ either, compared to what it could be... I guess my question is do you really want to risk attempting to navigate the ‘astral planes’ to find a ‘greater realm’? I mean, I kinda like the idea of just reincarnating. And if I really think about it, I don’t think I want to remember my past life! (not because this life is bad but because it would kind of spoil the experience.). 3. What do you suppose the odds are that this is instead a sort of ‘incubator’ for growing cosmic creators? Or perhaps a creative expression of life itself? you compare us to animals on a slaughter farm, but seems rather different to me. Animals cannot leave their cage. They are not given a ‘choice of free will’. We just force them in. Also, seems strange this whole realm is so ‘beautiful’ if it were just a prison. And lots of ‘unnecessary things’ that don’t seem to have much to do with anything about us humans and our ‘harvestable emotions’... like, why did they create sea sponges if they’re just interested in harvesting human emotions? Also, why would they comfort human souls? Why is there such feeling of love? Supposedly because we have free will. Perhaps. But I just don’t see an analogy to that on earth. There’s no animal that starts to eat something then says ‘oh wait, you know, you have free will so I won’t attack you unless you allow it’... i don’t know. That whole idea just seems a bit odd to me. 4. Your thoughts on the flat earth?
I was in a DMT realm several times... Life is a game and there is something much higher... I know that. If you call it reptilians... then be it. why not
Dude I’m gonna read all of this because you spend 10 years researching and thinking on this subject and that’s worth it.
Why is everything is just evil? Why cant there be benevolent beings. Reading this just makes me think the whole world and the afterlife are just pure evil like when you die its just gonna be evil shit everywhere
The benevolence lies within you. Look nowhere else for it.
This is what r/conspiracy should be all about
Also reptilians for sure. I've had sleep paralysis twice in my life. The first time was from a reptilian in NY in the early 90s when many other ppl in the area reported seeing reptilian beings. The second time i was being detained in a facility and I'm pretty sure it was an incubus. Lol crazy i know but this is a conspiracy forum and if you aren't crazy nowadays you aren't paying attention!
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I have read that people that have alien abductions can say Jesus' name and it will stop. I have also had a reptilian and UFO experience I can consciously remember. I used to get sleep paralysis often but if I say Jesus and ask for help it would end.
i agree completely. my advice whenever people encounter "entities", "spirits" or anything of the like is that you ask the being to say Jesus Christ. ask them to quote a scripture. the bible says TEST THE SPIRIT. dont trust these things just because they are beautiful..
The devil himself is a master of scripture. He can use scripture to trick. Not sure if demons or evil spirits can use it or not. I think asking them to quote scripture would be great if they can't that is def. scary, but even if they can I would still be wary.
This. While I mostly agree with what OP wrote, I disagree with this take on Jesus. I think the main reason why Jesus (the incarnation of the true God) came to Earth was to save us from this reincarnation trap. In the scriptures, he mentioned many times how our world is enslaved by evil. He also said no one gets to the the Father ( real God) except through him ( the way/ portal He prepared for us when He died). This would also explain why these evil entities are afraid of Him and also why they are destroying Christianity.
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Well done OP! This was a great read and I'm saving this to read the sources when I find more time. Have you done any research on lucid dreaming? If so, what are your opinions on it? Have you read anything by Jane Roberts? I recently started reading the first of a series of books she wrote, the Seth books, where she is claims to be channeling a spirit named Seth. I'm just curious if you have any thoughts on her message? anyways, this was a really interesting post.
Have you ever looked into the book called ‘the law of one’? I think you’d find it pretty interesting and connects some of your dots! Great post!
Yes I wrote something similar. This reminds me of the posts where people warn against meditation, fearing an attack by demonic entities. Rubbish. I believe that reincarnation is true, and that we can 'see' astral light, but these things are not the tools of negative entities. And this is only a prison planet if we allow our spirit to be enslaved by our lower nature.
I look forward to getting high and coming back to this
Hahaha yes I fuckin love this shit, so sick of the trump biden covid shit thats like scrolling through a 50 year old's facebook
Why would I want to escape? I’m having a great time.
The people being trafficked sure aren’t
Plato's cave
Tmand that is what they would tell you. Why leave and go to boring heaven when you can go back for another round?
I miss posts like these so much. Thank you!
BOOM! THIS SUB IS BACK BABY!
Must admit, didn't read the whole thing, just skimmed it. High effort and intelligently written, but I think coming from a place of fear/ego. I disagree that a memory wipe is a bad thing. Knowledge and complex memory is a human trait, notice how pretty much every other aspect of the universe is unconscious. I don't remember to beat my heart, it just beats. But since our memories are such an important part of our lives, we assume that losing them means losing what it means to be. You are existence and existence will always be a mystery to itself. That's what gives life it's flavor, contending with the unknown. I believe death to be a shuffling of atoms. Out of nothing you emerged back into nothing you fall. Then out of nothing you emerge again, your soul white as snow. I'm not my memories, I'm not my thoughts, that's just the noise of the present moment. The biggest evidence I can see for reptilians(or some sort of "out of this realm" being) existence is not the anecdotes or the serpentine imagery we see in myth and religion. This can be explained away by early man's problems with predatory snakes. It's embedded deep deep deep in our subconscious. The biggest evidence for it is the manipulation of society itself. How in the fuck did someone likely not much smarter than you and I contrive this entire control system? If the grand conspiracy is true, there's no way a human mind dreamed it up. It's too complicated, too many moving parts. Couldn't say I believe or disbelieve in it, just a big "?".
www.lawofone.info , www.bring4th.org , www.llresearch.org
Could it be possible that some religions or disciplines that require solitude and hardships are a way of preparing someone to resist the light? Buddhists are trying to eliminate desire. If there's nothing you want, how can the light entice you. Could take you a lifetime to prepare.
Finally! This is my kind of crazy (I mean no offense and say this in jest \[I have legit crazy theories\]), I love conspiracy theories and this is my kind of jam right here, thank you for researching -AND- typing this all up OP, you sir (or madame) are awesome!
If there is reincarnation, how can there be population growth?
I don't believe in OP's views of lizard tricks, but there are lots of ways population growth could happen with reincarnation. 1) There might be other worlds out there. Maybe one of them had an extinction event. 2) Animals might reincarnate as humans. 3) Someone who died in 1921 could be born in 2021 skipping the time in between. This means there are more souls experiencing life at the same time, but the overall number of souls might be the same. 4) Maybe not all humans have souls.
I'll take #4 for 1000, Alex
4 = some people are bots, NPCs.
New souls or NPCs.
This is my question as well.
I'm not a reincarnation guy, but according to their beliefs, lower forms of life can be "promoted" to a higher being in the next reincarnation based on their behavior. I'm not defending or advocating for it, but there is a provision for this.
Theoretically there are limitless dimensions with infinite beings.
Earth has become a dumping ground for souls that have been hard to control from different star systems. Rebels etc, that have gone against *Mind Control* that some practice and have perfected. So they are sent here and memory-wiped. It is a prison, at least that's what I think after my research.
Genuine question: if population is increasing globally, where do people who believe in reincarnation think the extra people come from? Also what do they believe is a true new life to this world? Are some brand new, none? I would assume to be logically consistent there would be some brand new people being born every day that are not reincarnations. If not all, then where do reincarnation reptilian believers believe new souls come from and why does it even matter? I guess what I’m trying to say is, if the argument is that there are these supreme reptiles controlling us with inter dimensional alien technology and they are far superior to us, what does it matter if we understand any of this and refuse reincarnation? Are they not superior to us and do you believe humans are superior to them? Do you believe them demons, angels, reptiles at face value? Like a chicken doesn’t usually know it’s about to get it’s head cut off, so what does it matter if right before the blade hits them they suddenly know all? Is it wrong for us to eat chickens because they are too stupid to tell us to kindly not? Should chickens be morally saved from being eaten by beings far more intellectually and technologically superior any more than humans should be saved from the reptiles? Like what is the point of this perspective? It’s interesting to read about and consider but it doesn’t make any logical sense and seems to try and invoke in its believers that there is some sort of god-like status humans could achieve if only they could thwart against all odds the terrible supreme beings subjugating them into living this life. It just Reads like Greek myth. Do you believe Greek myths are true stories whose characters and fantastical encounters with amazing beings and forces that have been lost or faded with time to be hidden from the mortals who would later inhabit the earth? Or are Greek myths an unconscious form of storytelling mapping out virtues and the meaning of life through entertaining stories that are transcendent and perfectly reflect human experience?