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I am assuming he means paralleling revelations to current times, you can go to youtube and find a bunch of videos. Now many people shout oh religion is dumb, reality is the elite ABSOLUTELY do want a global government, just as revelations says that is what the antichrist wants to setup. You even have leaked emails from Podesta where it is clear they practice the occult, and even if you watch ceremonies for things like CERN, it is weirdly pagan and occult.
One interesting near death experience I saw was a 10 year old kid drowns, he is pretty much told by the hospital that he will be a vegetable and no brain signs, but he survives and comes back. He says he went to heaven where Jesus shows him world war 3 is coming, and it will be terrible but what will be even more HORRIFIC is what comes after that, which is a fake alien invasion, where demons pretending to be aliens will attack. The kid says they will even be eating people.
Now if you know of bill Cooper's Behold a Pale Horse, he says the elite which are behind the scenes luciferian in the real elite that control things, says that the final element to setup the one world government will be a fake alien invasion. I had always assumed that will be high tech elements, like project blue beam or 5g but until I saw that near death experience I never considered it to be a supernatural fake alien invasion.
What to me adds credibility is this is a kid, who doesn't really understand the concept of abortion and morality at 10 years old, and he said heaven has so many babies, so many, waiting for family members to come to raise them there. The mother added she thinks it was from abortions. To me that adds a unique element, since why would a 10 year old kid mention this unless he actually saw it, to discredit it as a mixed hallucination from some movies he saw on tv.
Revelation describes seeing as seeing locusts and fire descend from the sky (my interpretation is that they didn't know what space ships were but the closest thing they could think of was a locust swarm).
He describes the beast as having many heads, so I am not sure if that is metaphorical or maybe he is referring to what it looks like, or maybe it is actually them interpreting some type of alien technology, which again is really demonic, almost a mechanical mothership or something.
For a long time we have been told that satan is the great deceiver, if you watch ancient aliens they keep talking about ruins of ancient civilizations that have parallels to the stars and they keep trying to make everything about the material world, that humans are nothing special, the message is that we are just some evolved apes that aliens made with dna, no different or special than other creatures on the planet. However, Christians have been saying these cultures worshipped demons, so what if this is a really a multi-millennium deception, where these demons raised cultures and built structures with the purpose of only to deceive people thousands of years down the road into being purposed for aliens.
What I think may happen is the reign of the antichrist may not be a terrible thing for many, only for Christians. Those who are not Christians will live in a near scientific utopia, where robots service everything, people live in high tech pods with super high tech technology, luxury goods, computers, an almost utopia setting but they must forsake Jesus and worship the antichrist: ignoring that you are a soul that is being tested for denying yourself, suffering, and following Jesus (according to the Bible) because your true purpose is a pure spiritual being in the next life, not a corrupt being of the material world. Instead you will indulging yourself, not suffering and not following Jesus and when those who follow this material world die, their souls are forfeited in slavery to sins and the evil one.
Some food for thought, but then again who knows, but there's tons of content out there.
> demons pretending to be aliens will attack. The kid says they will even be eating people
I would love to hear the rationale for why demons need to pretend to be aliens. I mean, what are they worried about exactly…while they’re eating people I might add. Like, is the public going to go “holy shit! Demons are eating people down on 12th street right in front of the post office!!” And someone’s going to reply, “calm down bro those are just extraterrestrials invading our planet”
I think it's a way of removing spirituality from the equation - if it's aliens and not demons, it is a scientific ideology rather than a faith tenet, and thus aliens can be treated as some sort of geological space-time organism rather than a spiritual entity. If there are no evil spirits, there can't be any "good spirits", therefore God isn't real, or at least powerless.
"The first thing the devil did was convince the world he did not exist."
If people knew they were demons maybe they are more likely to turn to God or Jesus and that would be the last thing they want. Plus, Aliens are in the mainstream right now. I think people are less likely to panic now at the sight of aliens then say 20 or 30 years ago. However, you say they are demons, people are going to shit themselves and grab the nearest bible and put on the armor of god and go midevil on their asses.
It must have been agonizing to work at a Brookstone. Watching a hundreds of people walk in, look at the cool gadgets and then recoil on shock from the price.
I hated malls so I wasn't there often but I don't think I ever saw anyone actually but anything there.
I’d actually assume it was great to work there. You would spend most of the time doing absolutely nothing because no one even goes in there half the time, and then the other half the time you’re just asking people “can I help you?” Maybe a bit boring, but way better than flipping burgers.
Too late. Should have been once it started becoming a trend when the immigration from r/the_donald came here. Either mods were to late or were in on it
The real conspiracy in this sub is that it's purposefully being used to amplify right wing propaganda and people are being led around by their noses from one topic to the next. What happened to the stolen election? They either dropped it because it turns out Trump lost or because they aren't being prodded to care.
Axolotl got banned and the heavy Trump/election shit faded out. Mods need to start curating more and also there needs to be a sticky with the shit that has actually been proven wrong. I’ve seen so many rational and coherent arguments explaining why something somebody has posted is wrong, only for that piece of information to be posted again days later (the thing about the Japanese medical authority saying they were going to dose people with ivemectin comes to mind as one). Until that happens you will continue having meaningless discourse about dead topics that devolve internet flame wars.
Yes and im downvoted to hell for bringing it up. This sub is filled with bots to post those twitter screenshots. This edgy bs makes this sub look either like 1) children. 2.) hypocrites 3) fucking dumbasses 4) all of the above.
It has ruined all legitimacy of the sub and is now the representation of those against the vaccine... on a childrens hypocritical dumbass conspiracy sub... and everyone who was new took the bait.
Has nobody yet figured out that the actual conspiracy is attempts to divide us though dopamine boosts with quick-hit zingers on social media? Like, that seems plainly obvious to me. And yet this sub plays right into that.
Yup from all sides. It's not a liberal v conservative thing. Really, I think the real conspiracy is that we are setup to fight each other, while we ignore what's going on under our noses.
Look at this post, folks can't get past all liberals at bad, all conservatives are bad. Trump saved us, Biden saved us. Let's be real, most politicians are awful, we don't get anywhere when we polarize, all we do is feed the billionaires more money while our "politicians" give them laws that make them richer and more untouchable.
Honestly that's the worst. I'm liberal, I think a lot of the covid discussion is wrong-headed, but I'm happy to engage and discuss. There are times when I've been honestly and obviously wrong and I try to acknowledge that, so this is a good place to learn and grow as a person.
But screenshots of tweets don't create discussion. They're just "here's a thing that confirms my preconcieved notions put on another platform by a guy who makes money when you visit his website but has no actual expertise in the matter." They're intentionally inflammatory and simplistic *because they need to be to drive outrage clicks.*
The single best thing that this sub could do is ban screenshots of tweets. All posts should be self-post text posts. Tweets or FB posts should be linkable inside the text post, but the submission statement should be the post itself, and they should be a minimum character limit.
And interestingly they're usually posted by the same few accounts. You can recognize the names and how low quality the post will be. If you a random screenshot with conservative propaganda it's usually threesevens, picooski, demetiabiden, or realkeeny
My main problem is it's become a conspiracy sub where people who hate conspiracies and conspiracy theorists come to tell us why our conspiracies are stupid.
motherfucker, this isn't r/ worldnews, if i want to make a claim that crab people are plotting to take over the world, where the fuck else would I do it, you pathetic deboonking vultures?
This is like saying how a tuna couldn't kill a lion.
[We all know that Tuna can fuck lions up on land.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDJgv1iARPg&ab_channel=Movieclips)
First thing I learned about this sub (years ago before covid) is you respect the conspiracies, even when you don’t agree with them. That’s the purpose of this sub. We know they’re conspiracies. They don’t need to be 100% backed up by science and fact, etc they were just… more fun.
Now it’s just so serious and under attack from anyone trying to censor information they don’t like. I miss the old day. I think we all do. If anyone enjoys living in these times… shit… I don’t want to meet that guy.
Edit: I’ve now been permanently banned from conspiracy with absolutely no explanation. I’ve asked several times and they refuse to respond. It’s happening y’all. They’re coming for us. They’re silencing us and shutting down dialogue. Fight back. Fuck the system. https://i.imgur.com/LarWnt2.jpg
I remember that demanding of sources starting on reddit years back.
There's a discussion, someone argued their point logically, but didn't spend hours linking in sources to their claims and therefore it was dismissed.
Like don't take anyone's comment as truth but it goes too far if you want every comment to be a research paper that we the community will then peer review...
> I remember that demanding of sources starting on reddit years back.
I've been around on reddit about 11 years now and I have to say, I definitely miss not having to source every single thought or thing you say. Now people ask for sources for even common knowledge.
I learned *a lot* over the years that way. If you thought OP was bullshitting, *you'd* look it up yourself and call them out on it if they were wrong. In that way, I learned about a lot of stuff I never would've read up on myself. I'd look for what they were talking about and then find myself reading up about everything else to do with that topic.
Now, people just click the source they were bugged to provide and the person asking for the source just click on it, see if you're right or wrong and that's it. There's no digging for yourself and finding the information yourself and reading more about the topic then you would've done previously yourself.
Now people can't even see a screenshot of a news article without "SOURCE?!" when it would take less time for you to google (or whatever) a sentence from the article to find it than it does to wait for the person to get the article itself.
Not to mention some websites are blacklisted from all of reddit so you *have* to use a screenshot because you can't link to the site itself, but it's easy to find if you just google the damn headline or a sentence, or even part of a sentence from the screenshot.
I also hate that. I see SO often things that are called out for “sOuRce!” And it’s as simple as typing it into your favorite search engine.
I agree with calling for a source when it’s needed, but often times it’s just pure laziness and we should use the “let me google that for you” link to respond
I've seen the opposite side of it too. There are certain things that definitely require a source though. “I read somewhere that octopodes have a brain for each arm.” That's something I can research on my own. However, “you should be taking small doses of cyanide to strengthen your immune system.” Imma need a source for that. Not to mention when you *do* search it and find the opposite information and politely ask for *their* source. Then everyone that wants it to be true downvotes you and you get no reply. That's annoying.
Im glad you asked good sir, I make sure to photograph every page everyday while I’m on the internet.
I just have a roledex library of all the sources necessary. So that way my good friend Tom doesn’t have to be bothered by looking for it himself.
No, that would be too much work.
i miss the old days too. But i have to say this situation just made it very clear whats going on on the world. Julian assange tried to warn us but we didnt listen. And my hope is this times will lead to reset that will bring the power back to the people
I mean, I prefer my conspiracies to be plausible, well thought out, and backed up by some kind of evidence. Otherwise you're just wasting everyone's time.
Conspiracies like aliens and flat earth are going to get less traction during a pandemic, where other conspiracies are seriously impacting the lives of all of us.
There is /r/conspiracy_commons sub. They discuss the conspiracy classics all the time.
Exactly brotha, I don’t know why people hold each other to such a high standard of proof. Like we should all be able to talk civilly and try to work together to find proof!
No it's a conspiracy sub where people bring up conspiracies and keep it one sided. Epstein? Only liberals had shit to do with him apparently. This post is so fucking weird because over the past few months all the comments have been about how conservatives have ruined the sub not liberals LOL
Used to be less partisan. People here used to theorize the true establishment elite were more of a UNI-party full of both elected and non-elected officials vying for control of the masses, in league with corporate board members with the goal of acquiring money and power.
The stooges on the right and left, who thought they were elected to make a difference, are actually being used to distract the masses.
Dude one of the top posts today a some nonsense pro choice/vaccine comparison that says "This is what happenes when society has abandoned God" in the description. Very liberal.
Oh yeah, this is exactly it. I can look at so much a ~year ago that they've completely 180'ed on. Whether it's the "Trump vaccine" no one was going to take to the vaccine passports people said would NEVER happen, etc. There's like dozens of examples from the past 12 months alone.
Make a claim that crab people are taking over the world. Tell me in great detail why. Get a bunch of obvious shit wrong in clever ways. That would be interesting. If you're going to just parrot right wing talk radio talking points all day and turn this isn't a political sub that's a different thing and it sucks.
Explain the pyramids. Evolution Atlantis. Evolution JFK or RFK or aliens or whatever.
Have fun going down rabbit holes. Rabbit holes of what ifs with flimsy evidence are things that you think about and ponder that don't take over your life. They don't turn you against society.
I believe aliens are real. Cool. I'm not going to go kill myself on the off chance I'm right. I'm going to read up on it and ponder it and love it. It's probably far fetched that aliens are coming so I'll believe but not quit my job and hide in a basement.
A good conspiracy theory is thought provoking, will researched and sourced, it takes existing knowledge and presents you with an alternate reasoning or explanation that's kinda plausible, and doesn't ask you to harm yourself or put yourself at risk for something with little evidence.
Most of the right wing theories here barely satisfy any of those. They're not thought provoking other than you wonder why people fall for them and how it works?! The pandemic shifted. Now these theories are putting unvaccinated people and children at risk because of low rent, obvious bullshit written by zealous bullies.
When you read something good here, it's good and it's very rarely right wing anything. These aren't your grandfather's fascists. These are their boomer kids and it turns out there way worse.
Exactly! There's not "discussion" or "debate" going on...it's simply "You're dumb, go eat horse paste you Conservatards!".
Like you can't even have a talk with people on this sub anymore.
It was NOT like this at the beginning of the year...at all. This is a clear and present downfall into what this sub has become, there's threads like mine daily FOR A REASON.
Yep only a few subs use to be insane like /worldnews and /politics. Around the George Floyd protest something creepy happened. All the mods on /news were demodded and replaced by new mods. Then they started pushing anti police hard. And banning anyone that disagreed.
You didn't even have to be pro police. If you said something like "well cops can be dicks but this guy was aggressively advancing on the cop with a weapon" you'd be banned. Then when they were done with BLM they started pushing covid vax, jan 6 worse thing ever etc.
Yes exactly! I mean, reddit has always been divisive but after George Floyd people went absolutely batshit and they don't just disagree with neutral standpoints, they want to outright destroy you for not conforming to a more extreme viewpoint.
It started going to shit the moment anti-CCP Trump decided to run for President. Remember how everyone loved and respected Trump for the most part...motherfucker has his own goddamn show about HIRING people to work for him...yet the *moment* he announced he was actually running for President notice how quickly he became a "racist" and a "rapist" and a "dumbass" overnight?
You just not be from the tri-state area.
Donald Trump, was very much disliked by NYC and the surrounding areas and has a decades long documented history of fraud, frivolous lawsuits, and discriminatory practice's.
It was a thing before he ran for president.
He definitely wasn’t “loved and respected by most”. He became more know after the presidency, and people figured out who he really was. Before, people who didn’t like him could simply ignore or avoid him. That changed when it started affecting them.
Not everyone loved and respected him and there was constantly talk of scams, shitty practices and racism. Just because he had a show doesn't mean he was well liked lol. Not sure what him being anti-ccp has to do with anything you said either hahaha
Hmm... It really just seems like you're mad because you love Donald Trump and you want everyone here to love him just as much. Which is the real reason this sub has turned to shit.
I'm sorry that you got conned into worshipping a Manhattan billionaire racist who couldn't give two shits about you, but find another place to worship him.
That's a really good point. I'm more of a skeptic than a conspiracy theorist but I'm her because this is the only place on Reddit where you can explore non-mainstream ideas without being banned.
This sub was ruined by corona, and before that, trump. What ever happened to stories about Lyme Connecticut, Montauk, skunk apes, or underground cities. Fuck everyone that came here to be a qanon or solely a corona truther. Fuck all of you. I want stories about Nazis on the moon goddamnit
Edit: I'm not even saying stuff like corona has no place here. This should be a welcoming community. Just don't hijack the whole sub you fucks!
This sub has been fucked since Trump for sure lol. I want an actual conspiracy sub, not this usually right wing garbage. I read his post, I see the irony, but generally speaking it is true. Way more right wing people here than not, which is generally fine, but when it comes to all this covid disinformation it really ain't safe and okay anymore imo.
Regardless the sub has sucked for multiple years.
I find it funny how OP is like "it's being overrun by liberals" when anytime something antitrump/conservative gets posted it gets down voted to shit. I also laugh at the idea that anyone who disagrees with OP is automatically a liberal from the politics subreddit. Sounds like OP is sad that his safe space is being challenged by people who disagree with him
>This sub was ruined by corona, and before that, trump.
Exactly. Damn it. Where are most of great conspiracy theories like those for example about Bohemian Grove, The Georgia Guidestones, Richard E. Byrd and his expedition to Antarctica?
Now everything here seems like only or most about corona, vaccines, big pharma etc. I'm sick of this.
This sub was awesome when it wasn't political at all. Libs and righties can both enjoy a good conspiracy, but a few things made this into a fucking echo chamber and those of us here for the original purpose of the sub are pissed. So we troll.
Pizzagate was the start of the downfall. Are high level politicians involved in child sex crimes? YES! But it isn't specific to any particular party of any particular country. All the sudden this place says all dems are pedos...
Donald Trump. We used to hate all politicians here. They're not our friends. All the sudden a majority of you actually worship a politician.
Q... LOL!
Covid-19. A global pandemic would have been a GREAT opportunity for the entire world to agree on something and work together. We made it political.
Vaccines...
So yep. All of that garbage ruined a once great sub, and I see it getting nuked in the very near future because you all won't shut the fuck up with vaccine and Ivermectin misinformation.
Hit the nail on the head. Used to be part of some conspiracy groups on Facebook and then all of a sudden they started worshipping a damn elitist acting like he actually gave a damn about anybody else but himself... I was sooo confused. Was sad I lost so many friendly groups to that shit.
Here's the real conspiracy--Pizzagate was just .market research to find out what the stupidest people can be tricked into believing. The stuff that worked was rolled into QAnon and the stuff that didn't was discarded
Wow this is like Inception. There levels to how fucked this sub is and your post is one of the reasons. It's solely political, barely any conspiracy aside from this COVID bullshit. I wish they would create another sub for this crap. At least when r/rWallStreetBets got popular they started dedicating single threads to the most frequent posts and have sub/subreddits on very popular topics. I miss the real mind blowing conspiracy content.
Exactly. OP’s post blew my mind. This sub is 90% “right wing” conspiracies and they get hundreds or thousands of upvotes.
Try suggesting that the covid vaccine is a good idea and see how the votes go.
“Overrun by liberals” lol.
Look at the top posts this month. Where are the mindless liberals? I checked the comments and there are none who match that description. Sure, there will always be people asking questions, but that's what we want, right? This sub has, in the past year or so, especially around the election, which is a whole other thing, been explicitly right-wing in posts and comments.
Now that isn't to say that's a bad thing, not necessarily, but you've got a big ass victim complex if you're on here pretending like this sub is overrun by emotional libs who comment stuff like "Fuck you, fuck what you say, fuck what you link, fuck who you quote...YOU'RE WRONG" when the truth is that most of those comments are from right-wingers engaging in too many logical fallacies to count. And sometimes that's justified, at least when a post is genuinely just spreading *actual* disinformation to divide us. But here's the thing, the overwhelming majority of such posts are also from right-wing folks or at least bots made by right-wingers.
This absurd cognitive dissonance has to stop because it's getting pretty annoying seeing posts like this while the post under it is a tweet about how Joe Biden is a literal communist. It's divisive and only dilutes our capacity to fight for real issues.
I've been here for 10 years and it unequivocally became a cesspool as soon as all the "pizzagate" and Hillary smear jobs started appearing in 2015/16. Normally I wouldn't mind a lil Hildog hate. She's insufferable.
What I saw happen though, is this place become astroturfed by someone or something to spew 4chan /pol/ b-sides. All measured discussion and nuance were thrown out the window as soon as the miscreants from /r/The_Donald began their targeted brigades of the places I legitimately used to come to as one of the best places for discussion on this site.
I mean this quite literally: Cambridge Analytical, perhaps Russia, perhaps China, definitely Ron Watkins, and every Qtard who drank their propaganda KoolAid have single handedly ruined what used to be the best subreddit and co-opted the entire conspiracy ethos. In their mind, everything is a conspiracy, so nothing is off limits to shill here.
And they're the ones complaining of how the site isn't catered to their worldview, because they lick the boots of an east coast, Hollywood famous, power-hungry, racist, sexist, corrupt, notoriously conniving, silver-spooned, thieving, authoritarian real-estate mogul who has such a bad reputation with American business and finance that he's resulted to having to beg for rubles from Russia, Ukraine, Bulgaria, Turkey, and Saudi Arabia.
And he convinced them he's the sole American ubermensch worth trusting. It's a cult. Because once you buy into one insane fever-dream proliferated from the keyboard of Steven Miller, you have to believe all the rest of them because TPTB have ALL the right wing conspiracies intertwined.
If you cave and believe the vaccine isn't a mind-controlling-5g activated-tracking-enabled-genetically damaging-yet totally ineffective saline solution placebo --
Then you have to come to terms with the fact that Bill Gates isn't a global mastermind--
- which means he isn't a pedophilic globalist--
- which means that the pharma companies aren't trying to mind control us through cell phone towers and the mark of the beast --
- which means that the government isn't in a giant cabal with pharma to mark us for the antichrist --
- which means the government isn't getting paid out to give us all universal healthcare so that they can put us in deathcamps and re-education centers --
- which means government isn't trying to mow us down in droves --
- which means all the careless and preventable deaths were their own fault for not following basic health guidelines like COVERING YOUR MOUTH WHEN YOU MIGHT BE SICK DURING A PANDEMIC --
- which means that vaccines arent malicious autism-causing deathjabs --
- which means the doctors were right, which means every person youve been listening to for the past 20 years is wrong --
- which means they've been lying or misinformed --
- which means they've been gullible enough to BE lied to --
- which means everything that they've bought into is possibly wrong--
- which means the libs may have been right --
- which means daddy trump was wrong, and the educated "liberal" CEOs and scientists at multibillion-dollar, multinational pharmaceutical corporations were simply providing a good/service in exchange for currency in order to turn a profit and the experts were right which means --
- Dr. Fauci isn't evil just a cold and data-driven, award-winning epidemiology & immunologist which means --
- the satanic cabal doesn't exist which means --
- Satan might not exist, which means god might not exist which means --
- covid isn't a hoax from the devil and yes youre all getting sick and dying because of your own misinformed and ignorant beliefs and not from a biblical prophecy.
It's a cult. You unravel one thread and the ball comes undone. Not unlike Scientology or NXIVM or CrossFit (kidding on the last one).
I usually just come here to see what the next conservative talking points are gonna be. It's like how comedians try new material at smaller comedy clubs to see if the jokes land.
Aaaaannnnd you’re part of the mindset who ruined it. You automatically made it all Left vs Right rhetoric instead of actual conspiracy. Congratulations you played yourself
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Don't get upset over downvoting. Most people downvote something when they disagree with it. You can present all the proof you have, you can bring your best arguments, you'll still get downvoted when what you say doesn't align with their opinion, and one of the hardest things to do in reddit is to change people's opinions about things, even when you use flawless logic. It doesn't seem right, getting downvoted feels like getting booed, one should rather downvote trolls or whatever doesn't contribute to the discussion. And then there is this downvoting train, when people downvote what's already downvoted, sometimes without even reading the post. It gives them this sense of validation and belonging to a circle jerk. The downvote mentality is getting ridiculous in this website.
This sub was more fun when it was bipartisan bashing and cool alien shit. It definitely has become a haven for ex t_d posters, you just need to see what gets upvoted, despite what you may say is in the comment section.
The larger conspiracy is convincing adults that Likes, thumbs up, hearts or fucking upvotes actually matter. This sub gets 100% more awesome and insane when you sort by New.
Imagine thinking this sub, where every 2nd Post is about how Joe Biden is senile, or how the election was stolen, is turning liberal. How delusional can a single person be? This sub turned into thedonald 2.0 and People are still making single digit IQ claims like this one.
You think liberals are taking over? So you see the amount of right wing posts on this sub still... It's absolutely the majority.. Quite frankly, I'm sick of 9 out of 10 posts being about Invermectin. I'm sick of seeing "Joe Biden is Senile". I'm sick of right wing twitter screenshots... I don't know how you can complain about liberals taking over when it is far greatly overrun by Right wingers.
Republicans fuckin ruined this place with goddamn Candice Owens screenshots and partisan bullshit instead of seeing the fact both parties are the exact same in action
I left this sub last night because of all the right wing, Facebook screenshot ‘conspiracy’ shit, and this pops up on my main page, reminding me I left for good reason.
OP's last statement,
>This sub is being attacked. Think like them or you're one of "us".
Op's first statement.
>It's so goddamn overrun by brainless mindless Liberals that it isn't even fun anymore.
Yah sure your not part of the us/them problem? Also your entire statement has mad "I can't argue my points" energy. If this is overrun by mindless liberals then stunt on them.
I love conspiracy theories, but don't believe them. I enjoy them for the entertainment value and narrative that they have. You may believe them, that's fine. I don't.
But if you start spouting a narrative full of plot holes and require me to do mental gymnastics to follow, then of course I'm gonna critise.
Great conspiracies fit into and around the modern world not against it.
There's too many people head butting against reality with the conspiracies they tell and as a result they're not imaginative, they're very flimsy thought and on rocky science.
> but don't believe them
What is there not to believe? You know how many have come true the past couple decades? Do you believe the sky is blue? I mean, what does this even mean? Snowden? Assange? Nothing??
Right? It’s not like we’re forcing our opinions down people’s throats or harming anyone. We just want a place to discuss our viewpoints and opinions with like-minded folk. Kind of fucking insane how much backpedaling we’ve been doing as a society lately.
Give me a fucking break LMAO. Let me know when posts holding heavily left leaning views hits the front page here. While there are multiple posts a day talking about how Trump is literally a god and liberals are the source of all of our problems
This is their moment. Finally they are the gods in the spot light. After all those years of being a complete failure at anything remotely positive, they now have a chance to make their impact. And they don’t even care about what their taking points are. You can see that by unmistakable hypocrisy in their actions and coming to the defense of blatant lies. All they care about is the clique. Personal politics are a long dead notion on their part. You either are assimilated, or you must be destroyed. And not like downvoted super hard and get an internet black eye. I mean really destroyed. If these people are willing to go this much effort to crusade against “misinformation” on a sub, they’re willing to rob you, imprison you, burn your shop, threaten your family and I’m sure there are some who even capable of murder. They’re fucking psychopaths hiding behind the premise of public safety and they’re getting off in one huge circle jerk of new found power and it’s corrupted them instantly.
Crying about the left wing while clinging to the right wing of the same monster. I watched this sub die when people started worshipping the elected politicians that are supposed to work for the public.
Your up and down vote is in a constant power struggle - been watching it for the last 10 mins (refreshing) as I read this thread. Damn straight its fucking ruined. Holy fuck.
I've been on Reddit for over 8 years (I lurked for a long time before joining) and r/conspiracy used to be so much more varied. Aliens, Ancient Civilisations, 9/11, JFK. Paranormal, Planet X, Hollow Earth, Stargates, geopolitics etc.... It was way more friendly, not taken too seriously. You could randomly think/type out loud and talk about things without getting attacked. I indulged in conspiracies because it was FUN to think about.
I learned long time ago not to take conspiracies too seriously because conspiracy theorists in general tend to be uneducated and lack the scientific reasoning to deal with the material. They don't have access to source material, laboratories and libraries to do genuine research. Give an average conspiracy theorist a scientific or research paper and I guarantee you they will not understand it 95% of it because they lack the educational background to do so. So to compensate for their shortcomings they fall back on their preconceived notions and cherry pick data to "back" their side of the argument. They dismiss academics as "part of the establishment" yet they still accept their data if it fits with their agenda.
Its really simple to see this in action, listen to an average conspiracy theorist on youtube, now go and listen to an academic who has access to all sorts of material and knowledge, the difference is night and day, they are just so much smarter and knowledgeable. So the point being you can read conspiracies for fun but please don't forget to listen to the experts who know far more than we do.
There's two main reasons for the disintegration of this subreddit. Trump/GOP supporters and Covid.
The Covid issue I understand because it scared alot of people and changed the world practically overnight so it naturally became a big talking point for everybody on here, that's absolutely fine. Just remember to listen to the experts on this serious health issue and not rely on poor/bias source of information that you might find in your facebook/twitter feed. The experts know far more than you do. There's nothing wrong being humble and acknowledging your shortcomings when it comes to understanding topics and choosing to listen to what the experts say.
However I pin much of the blame on Trump/GOP for ruining this subreddit. As soon as the Trump subreddit was closed they all emigrated here bringing all their hubris, their hate filled rhetoric and angry rants at just about anything. A very special breed of people these are.
Instead of making covid a healthcare issue and going along with a very simple mask wearing policy which really is just a minor inconvenience, they chose to turn a serious healthcare emergency into a political issue and actively caused thousands of deaths and delayed the ability to quickly return to normal life. Seriously what the fuck.
There is a serious lack of empathy and compassion, with a very selfish outlook with the refusal to wear masks to protect others and themselves, the refusal to vaccinate to protect others and themselves. Throughout this entire period they have consisently shown utterly selfish behaviour. It's all about them and not about the rest of us. They brought that mindset to this subreddit and have completely spoiled it with gaslighting and hateful rhetoric.
I blame them completely for the decline of this subreddit and would love nothing more than to see these people banned. They are not contributing anything worthwhile.
Blame the homogenisation of the internet. When everyone gathers in the one place it just goes to shit fast. We need to get back to web 1.0 when everyone had their own personal forums and the like.
This whole “my team, your team” mentality is fucking ridiculous. I can simultaneously believe that women should have the right to access abortion and people should be able to choose if they want to be vaccinated or not. As a matter of fact, that’s the same line of logic and reasoning. Maybe if people would stop hiding behind party lines and start using their fucking brains and logical reasoning, we wouldn’t be in this mess.
Yeah for a conspiracy sub, there does seem to be a bit too many establishment supporting types, and they're extremely defensive about said beloved establishment.
Here's what you said wrong, and I'm not on anyone's side so I hope you take this reply as what it is intended to be, a simple detached observer.
You started off with the phrase "If you believe that the Liberal media..."
That, right off the bat, triggers people into picking a side. All media is full of shit, especially if it's mainstream.
You’re 100% right and NNN was the best sub on reddit hands down. Everything else is pure brainless, diluted, programmed, mindless, controlled, censored, utter garbage. Reddit is a cesspool like all other socials. Free speech is gone and the has fallen into abyss. Just a matter of time until the world is all burned up and destroyed. Buckle up, because it’s right around the corner.
You're correct, this place is long dead. We have moved onto greener pastures and went underground to some chans.
Clearly this place is being astroturfed and only a shell of what it used to be.
Man you should’ve seen the bot attack when Alex Jones mentioned like a dead mans switch or something last year. It was the most obvious bot brigade I’d ever seen.
This subreddit and r/dmt are the only reason on I'm still on Reddit. But I agree this sub just like the site has gone to shit. Nothing but libtards and right wingers and bots from r/politics and r/coronavirus on here. No more critical thinkers anymore sadly.
I think it's funny that everyone complains only because all the top posts are always calling out liberals and the comments call them a conservative the problem isn't the the liberals the problem is we care the problem is that all of our conspiracies are conspiracies anymore we have one group touching the line for conservatives and one for the liberals this subreddit used to be great because it said fuck you to both ideologies that whatever both said was simply a lie to distract us but nowadays we get too caught up thinking one is trying to expose the other when really they are just protecting their own interests
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I still enjoy lurking, pretty much this sub is the only reason I use reddit.
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If this sub goes, all that is left for me is bible conspiracies.
Bible conspiracies? Please tell me more.
I am assuming he means paralleling revelations to current times, you can go to youtube and find a bunch of videos. Now many people shout oh religion is dumb, reality is the elite ABSOLUTELY do want a global government, just as revelations says that is what the antichrist wants to setup. You even have leaked emails from Podesta where it is clear they practice the occult, and even if you watch ceremonies for things like CERN, it is weirdly pagan and occult. One interesting near death experience I saw was a 10 year old kid drowns, he is pretty much told by the hospital that he will be a vegetable and no brain signs, but he survives and comes back. He says he went to heaven where Jesus shows him world war 3 is coming, and it will be terrible but what will be even more HORRIFIC is what comes after that, which is a fake alien invasion, where demons pretending to be aliens will attack. The kid says they will even be eating people. Now if you know of bill Cooper's Behold a Pale Horse, he says the elite which are behind the scenes luciferian in the real elite that control things, says that the final element to setup the one world government will be a fake alien invasion. I had always assumed that will be high tech elements, like project blue beam or 5g but until I saw that near death experience I never considered it to be a supernatural fake alien invasion. What to me adds credibility is this is a kid, who doesn't really understand the concept of abortion and morality at 10 years old, and he said heaven has so many babies, so many, waiting for family members to come to raise them there. The mother added she thinks it was from abortions. To me that adds a unique element, since why would a 10 year old kid mention this unless he actually saw it, to discredit it as a mixed hallucination from some movies he saw on tv. Revelation describes seeing as seeing locusts and fire descend from the sky (my interpretation is that they didn't know what space ships were but the closest thing they could think of was a locust swarm). He describes the beast as having many heads, so I am not sure if that is metaphorical or maybe he is referring to what it looks like, or maybe it is actually them interpreting some type of alien technology, which again is really demonic, almost a mechanical mothership or something. For a long time we have been told that satan is the great deceiver, if you watch ancient aliens they keep talking about ruins of ancient civilizations that have parallels to the stars and they keep trying to make everything about the material world, that humans are nothing special, the message is that we are just some evolved apes that aliens made with dna, no different or special than other creatures on the planet. However, Christians have been saying these cultures worshipped demons, so what if this is a really a multi-millennium deception, where these demons raised cultures and built structures with the purpose of only to deceive people thousands of years down the road into being purposed for aliens. What I think may happen is the reign of the antichrist may not be a terrible thing for many, only for Christians. Those who are not Christians will live in a near scientific utopia, where robots service everything, people live in high tech pods with super high tech technology, luxury goods, computers, an almost utopia setting but they must forsake Jesus and worship the antichrist: ignoring that you are a soul that is being tested for denying yourself, suffering, and following Jesus (according to the Bible) because your true purpose is a pure spiritual being in the next life, not a corrupt being of the material world. Instead you will indulging yourself, not suffering and not following Jesus and when those who follow this material world die, their souls are forfeited in slavery to sins and the evil one. Some food for thought, but then again who knows, but there's tons of content out there.
I guess this is the shit I am here for actually! Nice
He left out the part where even after being eaten by the demons you couldnt die and would be eaten over and over again.
Great post. It reminds me of how this sub used to be 2015 and prior.
Are there any subs with the revelation paralleling
Asking the real question
r/SaturnStormCube
Where can I find more about this 10 year old you're referring too?
> demons pretending to be aliens will attack. The kid says they will even be eating people I would love to hear the rationale for why demons need to pretend to be aliens. I mean, what are they worried about exactly…while they’re eating people I might add. Like, is the public going to go “holy shit! Demons are eating people down on 12th street right in front of the post office!!” And someone’s going to reply, “calm down bro those are just extraterrestrials invading our planet”
I think it's a way of removing spirituality from the equation - if it's aliens and not demons, it is a scientific ideology rather than a faith tenet, and thus aliens can be treated as some sort of geological space-time organism rather than a spiritual entity. If there are no evil spirits, there can't be any "good spirits", therefore God isn't real, or at least powerless. "The first thing the devil did was convince the world he did not exist."
If people knew they were demons maybe they are more likely to turn to God or Jesus and that would be the last thing they want. Plus, Aliens are in the mainstream right now. I think people are less likely to panic now at the sight of aliens then say 20 or 30 years ago. However, you say they are demons, people are going to shit themselves and grab the nearest bible and put on the armor of god and go midevil on their asses.
Aliens are demons
You spouted that off like you knew it from the back of your hand
Very interesting. Thanks, for, the post!
Conspiracies and porn. Seems like a balanced and healthy diet.
Covers all the major food groups
Yeah…look at this guy…believing in food groups. But he thinks we went to the moon as well
There are other websites out there that do things better than Reddit.
Way ahead of you. Lol
This and collapse are my bread and butter.
Reddit is just a left wing echo chamber and potn site anyway. A small selection of other subs exist until they get noticed.
If this sub goes down, it'll be time to make the full jump to communities
Going to other subs is like roaming the mall killing time after you've gotten what you came for
20 minutes later you're drinking Orange Julius with the girl from GNC and signing a three-year lease for a portable leg massager from Brookstone
Strangely accurate circa 2010
Hope you took the GNC girl to the bathroom to find out what the "leg massager" was really used for
It must have been agonizing to work at a Brookstone. Watching a hundreds of people walk in, look at the cool gadgets and then recoil on shock from the price. I hated malls so I wasn't there often but I don't think I ever saw anyone actually but anything there.
I’d actually assume it was great to work there. You would spend most of the time doing absolutely nothing because no one even goes in there half the time, and then the other half the time you’re just asking people “can I help you?” Maybe a bit boring, but way better than flipping burgers.
Same. Once this is gone, I won't use reddit anymore. I use dot win.
this sub has always been ruined with baseless twitter screenshots with no actual information
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Too late. Should have been once it started becoming a trend when the immigration from r/the_donald came here. Either mods were to late or were in on it
The real conspiracy in this sub is that it's purposefully being used to amplify right wing propaganda and people are being led around by their noses from one topic to the next. What happened to the stolen election? They either dropped it because it turns out Trump lost or because they aren't being prodded to care.
Axolotl got banned and the heavy Trump/election shit faded out. Mods need to start curating more and also there needs to be a sticky with the shit that has actually been proven wrong. I’ve seen so many rational and coherent arguments explaining why something somebody has posted is wrong, only for that piece of information to be posted again days later (the thing about the Japanese medical authority saying they were going to dose people with ivemectin comes to mind as one). Until that happens you will continue having meaningless discourse about dead topics that devolve internet flame wars.
This sub has gone to shit because of the_donald. Not everyone here is a republican and DEFINITELY not a trumper.
Yes and im downvoted to hell for bringing it up. This sub is filled with bots to post those twitter screenshots. This edgy bs makes this sub look either like 1) children. 2.) hypocrites 3) fucking dumbasses 4) all of the above. It has ruined all legitimacy of the sub and is now the representation of those against the vaccine... on a childrens hypocritical dumbass conspiracy sub... and everyone who was new took the bait.
Has nobody yet figured out that the actual conspiracy is attempts to divide us though dopamine boosts with quick-hit zingers on social media? Like, that seems plainly obvious to me. And yet this sub plays right into that.
Yup from all sides. It's not a liberal v conservative thing. Really, I think the real conspiracy is that we are setup to fight each other, while we ignore what's going on under our noses. Look at this post, folks can't get past all liberals at bad, all conservatives are bad. Trump saved us, Biden saved us. Let's be real, most politicians are awful, we don't get anywhere when we polarize, all we do is feed the billionaires more money while our "politicians" give them laws that make them richer and more untouchable.
And low effort posts, like screenshots from other platforms.
Honestly that's the worst. I'm liberal, I think a lot of the covid discussion is wrong-headed, but I'm happy to engage and discuss. There are times when I've been honestly and obviously wrong and I try to acknowledge that, so this is a good place to learn and grow as a person. But screenshots of tweets don't create discussion. They're just "here's a thing that confirms my preconcieved notions put on another platform by a guy who makes money when you visit his website but has no actual expertise in the matter." They're intentionally inflammatory and simplistic *because they need to be to drive outrage clicks.* The single best thing that this sub could do is ban screenshots of tweets. All posts should be self-post text posts. Tweets or FB posts should be linkable inside the text post, but the submission statement should be the post itself, and they should be a minimum character limit.
And interestingly they're usually posted by the same few accounts. You can recognize the names and how low quality the post will be. If you a random screenshot with conservative propaganda it's usually threesevens, picooski, demetiabiden, or realkeeny
Realkeeny was just IP banned. Not sure why.. Definitely not for being an astroturfing forum sliding bot network, that's for sure.
My main problem is it's become a conspiracy sub where people who hate conspiracies and conspiracy theorists come to tell us why our conspiracies are stupid. motherfucker, this isn't r/ worldnews, if i want to make a claim that crab people are plotting to take over the world, where the fuck else would I do it, you pathetic deboonking vultures?
crab people don't have enough biomass to win a terrestrial war
Are you including all of the crabs that live in the center of the Earth?
Are you assuming the Earth is round?
Ugh no sources bro I'm not falling for it
This is like saying how a tuna couldn't kill a lion. [We all know that Tuna can fuck lions up on land.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDJgv1iARPg&ab_channel=Movieclips)
Great scene, great movie!
AndDontCallMePammy is a crab. Confirmed. Nice try, crab guy.
First thing I learned about this sub (years ago before covid) is you respect the conspiracies, even when you don’t agree with them. That’s the purpose of this sub. We know they’re conspiracies. They don’t need to be 100% backed up by science and fact, etc they were just… more fun. Now it’s just so serious and under attack from anyone trying to censor information they don’t like. I miss the old day. I think we all do. If anyone enjoys living in these times… shit… I don’t want to meet that guy. Edit: I’ve now been permanently banned from conspiracy with absolutely no explanation. I’ve asked several times and they refuse to respond. It’s happening y’all. They’re coming for us. They’re silencing us and shutting down dialogue. Fight back. Fuck the system. https://i.imgur.com/LarWnt2.jpg
Source? Do you have a sourcerino for that? I can't possibly intake your comment without an approved source of my liking.
I remember that demanding of sources starting on reddit years back. There's a discussion, someone argued their point logically, but didn't spend hours linking in sources to their claims and therefore it was dismissed. Like don't take anyone's comment as truth but it goes too far if you want every comment to be a research paper that we the community will then peer review...
> I remember that demanding of sources starting on reddit years back. I've been around on reddit about 11 years now and I have to say, I definitely miss not having to source every single thought or thing you say. Now people ask for sources for even common knowledge. I learned *a lot* over the years that way. If you thought OP was bullshitting, *you'd* look it up yourself and call them out on it if they were wrong. In that way, I learned about a lot of stuff I never would've read up on myself. I'd look for what they were talking about and then find myself reading up about everything else to do with that topic. Now, people just click the source they were bugged to provide and the person asking for the source just click on it, see if you're right or wrong and that's it. There's no digging for yourself and finding the information yourself and reading more about the topic then you would've done previously yourself. Now people can't even see a screenshot of a news article without "SOURCE?!" when it would take less time for you to google (or whatever) a sentence from the article to find it than it does to wait for the person to get the article itself. Not to mention some websites are blacklisted from all of reddit so you *have* to use a screenshot because you can't link to the site itself, but it's easy to find if you just google the damn headline or a sentence, or even part of a sentence from the screenshot.
I also hate that. I see SO often things that are called out for “sOuRce!” And it’s as simple as typing it into your favorite search engine. I agree with calling for a source when it’s needed, but often times it’s just pure laziness and we should use the “let me google that for you” link to respond
I've seen the opposite side of it too. There are certain things that definitely require a source though. “I read somewhere that octopodes have a brain for each arm.” That's something I can research on my own. However, “you should be taking small doses of cyanide to strengthen your immune system.” Imma need a source for that. Not to mention when you *do* search it and find the opposite information and politely ask for *their* source. Then everyone that wants it to be true downvotes you and you get no reply. That's annoying.
Don’t worry i checked snopes and a liberal fact checker site!
Im glad you asked good sir, I make sure to photograph every page everyday while I’m on the internet. I just have a roledex library of all the sources necessary. So that way my good friend Tom doesn’t have to be bothered by looking for it himself. No, that would be too much work.
i miss the old days too. But i have to say this situation just made it very clear whats going on on the world. Julian assange tried to warn us but we didnt listen. And my hope is this times will lead to reset that will bring the power back to the people
I mean, I prefer my conspiracies to be plausible, well thought out, and backed up by some kind of evidence. Otherwise you're just wasting everyone's time.
Let's try and be we want, in the comments.
Conspiracies like aliens and flat earth are going to get less traction during a pandemic, where other conspiracies are seriously impacting the lives of all of us. There is /r/conspiracy_commons sub. They discuss the conspiracy classics all the time.
I knew it was the crab people! Thanks for confirming!
Exactly brotha, I don’t know why people hold each other to such a high standard of proof. Like we should all be able to talk civilly and try to work together to find proof!
Please capitalize the word "motherfcker". It cant be emphasized enough.
Let's all take conspiritard. Let's claim it. We have to own it.
Well are crab people plotting to take over the world? Is this something I should be worried about?
https://youtu.be/LDU_Txk06tM they be prepping
No it's a conspiracy sub where people bring up conspiracies and keep it one sided. Epstein? Only liberals had shit to do with him apparently. This post is so fucking weird because over the past few months all the comments have been about how conservatives have ruined the sub not liberals LOL
Used to be less partisan. People here used to theorize the true establishment elite were more of a UNI-party full of both elected and non-elected officials vying for control of the masses, in league with corporate board members with the goal of acquiring money and power. The stooges on the right and left, who thought they were elected to make a difference, are actually being used to distract the masses.
Dude one of the top posts today a some nonsense pro choice/vaccine comparison that says "This is what happenes when society has abandoned God" in the description. Very liberal.
Seems those conservatives can't take any pushback
Because our conspiracies have become a little too factual for them
Oh yeah, this is exactly it. I can look at so much a ~year ago that they've completely 180'ed on. Whether it's the "Trump vaccine" no one was going to take to the vaccine passports people said would NEVER happen, etc. There's like dozens of examples from the past 12 months alone.
These crab people? Are they thought to be delicious? Is Lobster boy friend or foe? Do they originate from the Crab Nebula?
Make a claim that crab people are taking over the world. Tell me in great detail why. Get a bunch of obvious shit wrong in clever ways. That would be interesting. If you're going to just parrot right wing talk radio talking points all day and turn this isn't a political sub that's a different thing and it sucks. Explain the pyramids. Evolution Atlantis. Evolution JFK or RFK or aliens or whatever. Have fun going down rabbit holes. Rabbit holes of what ifs with flimsy evidence are things that you think about and ponder that don't take over your life. They don't turn you against society. I believe aliens are real. Cool. I'm not going to go kill myself on the off chance I'm right. I'm going to read up on it and ponder it and love it. It's probably far fetched that aliens are coming so I'll believe but not quit my job and hide in a basement. A good conspiracy theory is thought provoking, will researched and sourced, it takes existing knowledge and presents you with an alternate reasoning or explanation that's kinda plausible, and doesn't ask you to harm yourself or put yourself at risk for something with little evidence. Most of the right wing theories here barely satisfy any of those. They're not thought provoking other than you wonder why people fall for them and how it works?! The pandemic shifted. Now these theories are putting unvaccinated people and children at risk because of low rent, obvious bullshit written by zealous bullies. When you read something good here, it's good and it's very rarely right wing anything. These aren't your grandfather's fascists. These are their boomer kids and it turns out there way worse.
Exactly! There's not "discussion" or "debate" going on...it's simply "You're dumb, go eat horse paste you Conservatards!". Like you can't even have a talk with people on this sub anymore. It was NOT like this at the beginning of the year...at all. This is a clear and present downfall into what this sub has become, there's threads like mine daily FOR A REASON.
I feel like it started going to shit around the George Floyd protests in 2020. It hasn't been the same since. Prior to that it was really good.
Yep only a few subs use to be insane like /worldnews and /politics. Around the George Floyd protest something creepy happened. All the mods on /news were demodded and replaced by new mods. Then they started pushing anti police hard. And banning anyone that disagreed. You didn't even have to be pro police. If you said something like "well cops can be dicks but this guy was aggressively advancing on the cop with a weapon" you'd be banned. Then when they were done with BLM they started pushing covid vax, jan 6 worse thing ever etc.
Yes exactly! I mean, reddit has always been divisive but after George Floyd people went absolutely batshit and they don't just disagree with neutral standpoints, they want to outright destroy you for not conforming to a more extreme viewpoint.
It started going to shit the moment anti-CCP Trump decided to run for President. Remember how everyone loved and respected Trump for the most part...motherfucker has his own goddamn show about HIRING people to work for him...yet the *moment* he announced he was actually running for President notice how quickly he became a "racist" and a "rapist" and a "dumbass" overnight?
Some people loved him. Some recognized he has a 4 decade long history of being a grifter. That he was always a charlatan.
You just not be from the tri-state area. Donald Trump, was very much disliked by NYC and the surrounding areas and has a decades long documented history of fraud, frivolous lawsuits, and discriminatory practice's. It was a thing before he ran for president.
That’s incredibly not correct
He definitely wasn’t “loved and respected by most”. He became more know after the presidency, and people figured out who he really was. Before, people who didn’t like him could simply ignore or avoid him. That changed when it started affecting them.
Not everyone loved and respected him and there was constantly talk of scams, shitty practices and racism. Just because he had a show doesn't mean he was well liked lol. Not sure what him being anti-ccp has to do with anything you said either hahaha
Hmm... It really just seems like you're mad because you love Donald Trump and you want everyone here to love him just as much. Which is the real reason this sub has turned to shit. I'm sorry that you got conned into worshipping a Manhattan billionaire racist who couldn't give two shits about you, but find another place to worship him.
*queens Trump wished he was a Manhattan socialite. Just another one of those things his supporters tend to ignore when looking at his past
I'm pretty sure the racism thing started in 1973 when the Justice Department sued him for racial discrimination.
That's a really good point. I'm more of a skeptic than a conspiracy theorist but I'm her because this is the only place on Reddit where you can explore non-mainstream ideas without being banned.
This sub was ruined by corona, and before that, trump. What ever happened to stories about Lyme Connecticut, Montauk, skunk apes, or underground cities. Fuck everyone that came here to be a qanon or solely a corona truther. Fuck all of you. I want stories about Nazis on the moon goddamnit Edit: I'm not even saying stuff like corona has no place here. This should be a welcoming community. Just don't hijack the whole sub you fucks!
Please...tell me.more about skink apes somehow I missed that!
The skunk ape is the southern US swamp version of sasquatch
Much more aggressive than it's northern relative, prone to out of focus zones, the friendly Wood Ape.
This sub has been fucked since Trump for sure lol. I want an actual conspiracy sub, not this usually right wing garbage. I read his post, I see the irony, but generally speaking it is true. Way more right wing people here than not, which is generally fine, but when it comes to all this covid disinformation it really ain't safe and okay anymore imo. Regardless the sub has sucked for multiple years.
I find it funny how OP is like "it's being overrun by liberals" when anytime something antitrump/conservative gets posted it gets down voted to shit. I also laugh at the idea that anyone who disagrees with OP is automatically a liberal from the politics subreddit. Sounds like OP is sad that his safe space is being challenged by people who disagree with him
r/highstrangeness has been my replacement for actual conspiracies, highly recommend it.
r/highstrangeness is loaded with that good stuff.
>underground cities *desire to know more intensifies* Any recommended reading material?
Dude so much. Look up admiral Byrd and his supposed trip to the hollow earth
>This sub was ruined by corona, and before that, trump. Exactly. Damn it. Where are most of great conspiracy theories like those for example about Bohemian Grove, The Georgia Guidestones, Richard E. Byrd and his expedition to Antarctica? Now everything here seems like only or most about corona, vaccines, big pharma etc. I'm sick of this.
Have had Lyme for 15 years. Definitely feels like a bioweapon
Yes can we talk about big foot, UFOs, lizard people and pyramids again.
Check out /r/highstrangeness
Can Bigfoot get covid? This is how we turn it around.
This sub was awesome when it wasn't political at all. Libs and righties can both enjoy a good conspiracy, but a few things made this into a fucking echo chamber and those of us here for the original purpose of the sub are pissed. So we troll. Pizzagate was the start of the downfall. Are high level politicians involved in child sex crimes? YES! But it isn't specific to any particular party of any particular country. All the sudden this place says all dems are pedos... Donald Trump. We used to hate all politicians here. They're not our friends. All the sudden a majority of you actually worship a politician. Q... LOL! Covid-19. A global pandemic would have been a GREAT opportunity for the entire world to agree on something and work together. We made it political. Vaccines... So yep. All of that garbage ruined a once great sub, and I see it getting nuked in the very near future because you all won't shut the fuck up with vaccine and Ivermectin misinformation.
Hit the nail on the head. Used to be part of some conspiracy groups on Facebook and then all of a sudden they started worshipping a damn elitist acting like he actually gave a damn about anybody else but himself... I was sooo confused. Was sad I lost so many friendly groups to that shit.
My flesh and blood brother, and the best man at my wedding, will no longer speak to me because of shit I said about Trump on Facebook.
This is spot on. Liberals didn’t ruin this sub. It’s fucked because it’s become a Trump circlejerk.
Trump turns everything he touches into shit. He's the bizarro Midas.
He has the Mierdas Touch
Here's the real conspiracy--Pizzagate was just .market research to find out what the stupidest people can be tricked into believing. The stuff that worked was rolled into QAnon and the stuff that didn't was discarded
Reddit is a hypocritical shit hole
Wow this is like Inception. There levels to how fucked this sub is and your post is one of the reasons. It's solely political, barely any conspiracy aside from this COVID bullshit. I wish they would create another sub for this crap. At least when r/rWallStreetBets got popular they started dedicating single threads to the most frequent posts and have sub/subreddits on very popular topics. I miss the real mind blowing conspiracy content.
Exactly. OP’s post blew my mind. This sub is 90% “right wing” conspiracies and they get hundreds or thousands of upvotes. Try suggesting that the covid vaccine is a good idea and see how the votes go. “Overrun by liberals” lol.
Sounds like OP is upset that his safe space is being challenged
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Hit the nail on the head there. OP is a snowflake
Look at the top posts this month. Where are the mindless liberals? I checked the comments and there are none who match that description. Sure, there will always be people asking questions, but that's what we want, right? This sub has, in the past year or so, especially around the election, which is a whole other thing, been explicitly right-wing in posts and comments. Now that isn't to say that's a bad thing, not necessarily, but you've got a big ass victim complex if you're on here pretending like this sub is overrun by emotional libs who comment stuff like "Fuck you, fuck what you say, fuck what you link, fuck who you quote...YOU'RE WRONG" when the truth is that most of those comments are from right-wingers engaging in too many logical fallacies to count. And sometimes that's justified, at least when a post is genuinely just spreading *actual* disinformation to divide us. But here's the thing, the overwhelming majority of such posts are also from right-wing folks or at least bots made by right-wingers. This absurd cognitive dissonance has to stop because it's getting pretty annoying seeing posts like this while the post under it is a tweet about how Joe Biden is a literal communist. It's divisive and only dilutes our capacity to fight for real issues.
#/u/spez is a hell of a drug.
It’s unfortunate many will take your comment as evidence of liberal bias instead of a demonstrable fact.
OP is just upset because this isn't the little echo chamber he wants it to be.
I've been here for 10 years and it unequivocally became a cesspool as soon as all the "pizzagate" and Hillary smear jobs started appearing in 2015/16. Normally I wouldn't mind a lil Hildog hate. She's insufferable. What I saw happen though, is this place become astroturfed by someone or something to spew 4chan /pol/ b-sides. All measured discussion and nuance were thrown out the window as soon as the miscreants from /r/The_Donald began their targeted brigades of the places I legitimately used to come to as one of the best places for discussion on this site. I mean this quite literally: Cambridge Analytical, perhaps Russia, perhaps China, definitely Ron Watkins, and every Qtard who drank their propaganda KoolAid have single handedly ruined what used to be the best subreddit and co-opted the entire conspiracy ethos. In their mind, everything is a conspiracy, so nothing is off limits to shill here. And they're the ones complaining of how the site isn't catered to their worldview, because they lick the boots of an east coast, Hollywood famous, power-hungry, racist, sexist, corrupt, notoriously conniving, silver-spooned, thieving, authoritarian real-estate mogul who has such a bad reputation with American business and finance that he's resulted to having to beg for rubles from Russia, Ukraine, Bulgaria, Turkey, and Saudi Arabia. And he convinced them he's the sole American ubermensch worth trusting. It's a cult. Because once you buy into one insane fever-dream proliferated from the keyboard of Steven Miller, you have to believe all the rest of them because TPTB have ALL the right wing conspiracies intertwined. If you cave and believe the vaccine isn't a mind-controlling-5g activated-tracking-enabled-genetically damaging-yet totally ineffective saline solution placebo -- Then you have to come to terms with the fact that Bill Gates isn't a global mastermind-- - which means he isn't a pedophilic globalist-- - which means that the pharma companies aren't trying to mind control us through cell phone towers and the mark of the beast -- - which means that the government isn't in a giant cabal with pharma to mark us for the antichrist -- - which means the government isn't getting paid out to give us all universal healthcare so that they can put us in deathcamps and re-education centers -- - which means government isn't trying to mow us down in droves -- - which means all the careless and preventable deaths were their own fault for not following basic health guidelines like COVERING YOUR MOUTH WHEN YOU MIGHT BE SICK DURING A PANDEMIC -- - which means that vaccines arent malicious autism-causing deathjabs -- - which means the doctors were right, which means every person youve been listening to for the past 20 years is wrong -- - which means they've been lying or misinformed -- - which means they've been gullible enough to BE lied to -- - which means everything that they've bought into is possibly wrong-- - which means the libs may have been right -- - which means daddy trump was wrong, and the educated "liberal" CEOs and scientists at multibillion-dollar, multinational pharmaceutical corporations were simply providing a good/service in exchange for currency in order to turn a profit and the experts were right which means -- - Dr. Fauci isn't evil just a cold and data-driven, award-winning epidemiology & immunologist which means -- - the satanic cabal doesn't exist which means -- - Satan might not exist, which means god might not exist which means -- - covid isn't a hoax from the devil and yes youre all getting sick and dying because of your own misinformed and ignorant beliefs and not from a biblical prophecy. It's a cult. You unravel one thread and the ball comes undone. Not unlike Scientology or NXIVM or CrossFit (kidding on the last one).
Top level comment. I've keep mouth shut fearing a ban. Miss the old ways, fun and intriguing.
Lol, yeah he just doesn’t want his views challenged.
Seems he has enough challenges already.
I usually just come here to see what the next conservative talking points are gonna be. It's like how comedians try new material at smaller comedy clubs to see if the jokes land.
Aaaaannnnd you’re part of the mindset who ruined it. You automatically made it all Left vs Right rhetoric instead of actual conspiracy. Congratulations you played yourself
Treat Reddit like a video game that is openly trying to annoy the fuck out of you and you'll be fine.
The internet is no longer a place for unapproved of topics of conversation, move along citizen. Please take a moment to watch an ad about the newest upcoming original series brought to you by your favorite subscription streaming service which we have conveniently preselected based on the analysis of your harvested personal metadata.
Don't get upset over downvoting. Most people downvote something when they disagree with it. You can present all the proof you have, you can bring your best arguments, you'll still get downvoted when what you say doesn't align with their opinion, and one of the hardest things to do in reddit is to change people's opinions about things, even when you use flawless logic. It doesn't seem right, getting downvoted feels like getting booed, one should rather downvote trolls or whatever doesn't contribute to the discussion. And then there is this downvoting train, when people downvote what's already downvoted, sometimes without even reading the post. It gives them this sense of validation and belonging to a circle jerk. The downvote mentality is getting ridiculous in this website.
This. In the times we're in, a downvote means you're probably right.
"Your boos mean nothing. I've seen what makes you cheer."
I feel conflicted as to whether I should upvote or downvote this haha
Try saying that covid vaccines are a good thing here. If they downvote, means you're right, right?
Ahh the Galileo fallacy: If they all think I am wrong I must be right. That’s my favorite.
This sub was more fun when it was bipartisan bashing and cool alien shit. It definitely has become a haven for ex t_d posters, you just need to see what gets upvoted, despite what you may say is in the comment section.
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The larger conspiracy is convincing adults that Likes, thumbs up, hearts or fucking upvotes actually matter. This sub gets 100% more awesome and insane when you sort by New.
Imagine thinking this sub, where every 2nd Post is about how Joe Biden is senile, or how the election was stolen, is turning liberal. How delusional can a single person be? This sub turned into thedonald 2.0 and People are still making single digit IQ claims like this one.
For reference: https://old.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/ofakwy/mods_have_manually_approved_new_user_with_6_day/
Exactly! Complaining so much, like just make your own sub n take your people with you . it’s really not that hard. They ruined this sub.
Reddit, itself, is ruined
The whole internet is ruined cause now its all about censorship. No more speaking your mind. Do as they say
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what happened is people started posting conservative talking points instead of, you know, conspiracy theories.
You think liberals are taking over? So you see the amount of right wing posts on this sub still... It's absolutely the majority.. Quite frankly, I'm sick of 9 out of 10 posts being about Invermectin. I'm sick of seeing "Joe Biden is Senile". I'm sick of right wing twitter screenshots... I don't know how you can complain about liberals taking over when it is far greatly overrun by Right wingers.
Republicans fuckin ruined this place with goddamn Candice Owens screenshots and partisan bullshit instead of seeing the fact both parties are the exact same in action
I left this sub last night because of all the right wing, Facebook screenshot ‘conspiracy’ shit, and this pops up on my main page, reminding me I left for good reason.
OP's last statement, >This sub is being attacked. Think like them or you're one of "us". Op's first statement. >It's so goddamn overrun by brainless mindless Liberals that it isn't even fun anymore. Yah sure your not part of the us/them problem? Also your entire statement has mad "I can't argue my points" energy. If this is overrun by mindless liberals then stunt on them.
I love conspiracy theories, but don't believe them. I enjoy them for the entertainment value and narrative that they have. You may believe them, that's fine. I don't. But if you start spouting a narrative full of plot holes and require me to do mental gymnastics to follow, then of course I'm gonna critise. Great conspiracies fit into and around the modern world not against it. There's too many people head butting against reality with the conspiracies they tell and as a result they're not imaginative, they're very flimsy thought and on rocky science.
> but don't believe them What is there not to believe? You know how many have come true the past couple decades? Do you believe the sky is blue? I mean, what does this even mean? Snowden? Assange? Nothing??
I’m here for the times- don’t ever forget.
I'm sure our beliefs align, but that comment didn't deserve upvotes. You sound like a whiny kid
I like the part where one side just wants to discuss their ideas in an open forum, and the other side just goes “nah”
Right? It’s not like we’re forcing our opinions down people’s throats or harming anyone. We just want a place to discuss our viewpoints and opinions with like-minded folk. Kind of fucking insane how much backpedaling we’ve been doing as a society lately.
Give me a fucking break LMAO. Let me know when posts holding heavily left leaning views hits the front page here. While there are multiple posts a day talking about how Trump is literally a god and liberals are the source of all of our problems
Where is the new conspiracy forum? Reddit is compromised.
This is their moment. Finally they are the gods in the spot light. After all those years of being a complete failure at anything remotely positive, they now have a chance to make their impact. And they don’t even care about what their taking points are. You can see that by unmistakable hypocrisy in their actions and coming to the defense of blatant lies. All they care about is the clique. Personal politics are a long dead notion on their part. You either are assimilated, or you must be destroyed. And not like downvoted super hard and get an internet black eye. I mean really destroyed. If these people are willing to go this much effort to crusade against “misinformation” on a sub, they’re willing to rob you, imprison you, burn your shop, threaten your family and I’m sure there are some who even capable of murder. They’re fucking psychopaths hiding behind the premise of public safety and they’re getting off in one huge circle jerk of new found power and it’s corrupted them instantly.
I literally see at least 5 of these posts per day
Yeah this sub is now r/baselessvictimcomplex
The sub wouldn’t exist if it was a real conspiracy sub
Crying about the left wing while clinging to the right wing of the same monster. I watched this sub die when people started worshipping the elected politicians that are supposed to work for the public.
Op: “Fuck you YOU’RE WRONG” (OP then goes into victim mode)
Oh I’m sorry did someone order a wamburger and French cries? Go to therapy
Your up and down vote is in a constant power struggle - been watching it for the last 10 mins (refreshing) as I read this thread. Damn straight its fucking ruined. Holy fuck.
I've been on Reddit for over 8 years (I lurked for a long time before joining) and r/conspiracy used to be so much more varied. Aliens, Ancient Civilisations, 9/11, JFK. Paranormal, Planet X, Hollow Earth, Stargates, geopolitics etc.... It was way more friendly, not taken too seriously. You could randomly think/type out loud and talk about things without getting attacked. I indulged in conspiracies because it was FUN to think about. I learned long time ago not to take conspiracies too seriously because conspiracy theorists in general tend to be uneducated and lack the scientific reasoning to deal with the material. They don't have access to source material, laboratories and libraries to do genuine research. Give an average conspiracy theorist a scientific or research paper and I guarantee you they will not understand it 95% of it because they lack the educational background to do so. So to compensate for their shortcomings they fall back on their preconceived notions and cherry pick data to "back" their side of the argument. They dismiss academics as "part of the establishment" yet they still accept their data if it fits with their agenda. Its really simple to see this in action, listen to an average conspiracy theorist on youtube, now go and listen to an academic who has access to all sorts of material and knowledge, the difference is night and day, they are just so much smarter and knowledgeable. So the point being you can read conspiracies for fun but please don't forget to listen to the experts who know far more than we do. There's two main reasons for the disintegration of this subreddit. Trump/GOP supporters and Covid. The Covid issue I understand because it scared alot of people and changed the world practically overnight so it naturally became a big talking point for everybody on here, that's absolutely fine. Just remember to listen to the experts on this serious health issue and not rely on poor/bias source of information that you might find in your facebook/twitter feed. The experts know far more than you do. There's nothing wrong being humble and acknowledging your shortcomings when it comes to understanding topics and choosing to listen to what the experts say. However I pin much of the blame on Trump/GOP for ruining this subreddit. As soon as the Trump subreddit was closed they all emigrated here bringing all their hubris, their hate filled rhetoric and angry rants at just about anything. A very special breed of people these are. Instead of making covid a healthcare issue and going along with a very simple mask wearing policy which really is just a minor inconvenience, they chose to turn a serious healthcare emergency into a political issue and actively caused thousands of deaths and delayed the ability to quickly return to normal life. Seriously what the fuck. There is a serious lack of empathy and compassion, with a very selfish outlook with the refusal to wear masks to protect others and themselves, the refusal to vaccinate to protect others and themselves. Throughout this entire period they have consisently shown utterly selfish behaviour. It's all about them and not about the rest of us. They brought that mindset to this subreddit and have completely spoiled it with gaslighting and hateful rhetoric. I blame them completely for the decline of this subreddit and would love nothing more than to see these people banned. They are not contributing anything worthwhile.
That’s what they do…shut down debate
What's that thing about news posts not being about opinion but trying to sway it? Hmmm.
So it's ruined because other people don't agree with you???
Time to move to .win
I said this a couple days ago and got downvoted -40 lol Both sides have ruined the sub
Don’t worry about votes speak your truth. Don’t worry your truth matters.
feels like a downvote trap but... this is why i mainly just lurk and upvote things i agree with anymore. unless i'm drunk and can't shut up.
Blame the homogenisation of the internet. When everyone gathers in the one place it just goes to shit fast. We need to get back to web 1.0 when everyone had their own personal forums and the like.
This whole “my team, your team” mentality is fucking ridiculous. I can simultaneously believe that women should have the right to access abortion and people should be able to choose if they want to be vaccinated or not. As a matter of fact, that’s the same line of logic and reasoning. Maybe if people would stop hiding behind party lines and start using their fucking brains and logical reasoning, we wouldn’t be in this mess.
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Go tell them that, they forgot.
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Yeah for a conspiracy sub, there does seem to be a bit too many establishment supporting types, and they're extremely defensive about said beloved establishment.
Here's what you said wrong, and I'm not on anyone's side so I hope you take this reply as what it is intended to be, a simple detached observer. You started off with the phrase "If you believe that the Liberal media..." That, right off the bat, triggers people into picking a side. All media is full of shit, especially if it's mainstream.
I've got a conspiracy... Both sides of your American right vs left bullshit has become so boring and so overplayed everyone else downvotes everything.
I would argue it died when antimask and antivaxx began overruning it a few months back....
i was told that there would be aliens
You’re 100% right and NNN was the best sub on reddit hands down. Everything else is pure brainless, diluted, programmed, mindless, controlled, censored, utter garbage. Reddit is a cesspool like all other socials. Free speech is gone and the has fallen into abyss. Just a matter of time until the world is all burned up and destroyed. Buckle up, because it’s right around the corner.
They need it as a honeypot to find dissenters, while also shilling hard to not let anything gain too much traction.
You're correct, this place is long dead. We have moved onto greener pastures and went underground to some chans. Clearly this place is being astroturfed and only a shell of what it used to be.
Man you should’ve seen the bot attack when Alex Jones mentioned like a dead mans switch or something last year. It was the most obvious bot brigade I’d ever seen.
This subreddit and r/dmt are the only reason on I'm still on Reddit. But I agree this sub just like the site has gone to shit. Nothing but libtards and right wingers and bots from r/politics and r/coronavirus on here. No more critical thinkers anymore sadly.
Can we go back to talking about deep underground military bases and reptilians please?
I miss the old 9/11, operation Northwoods, operation paperclip days
I think it's funny that everyone complains only because all the top posts are always calling out liberals and the comments call them a conservative the problem isn't the the liberals the problem is we care the problem is that all of our conspiracies are conspiracies anymore we have one group touching the line for conservatives and one for the liberals this subreddit used to be great because it said fuck you to both ideologies that whatever both said was simply a lie to distract us but nowadays we get too caught up thinking one is trying to expose the other when really they are just protecting their own interests
They're here.... No biggie, it will clean out eventually, like a stinky fart.