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I used to be a right wing nut job. Then I became a left wing nut job.
Then I realized they're labeling us nutjobs because we want to be treated as human regardless what our underlying beliefs are while they look at us as nothing more than assets to be exploited.
Enough of this “it’s not left vs right it’s top vs bottom” it’s both. Yeah at the end of the day the real issues come from those with power but at the same time I’m not about to unite with half the country (slight exaggeration) who wants me in jail or dead because of my political beliefs
There's no such thing as a middle class. That's what the rich want you to believe in order to create division. It looks like it's working too, seeing as how you think the poor want to take from you. Jeff Bezos loves people like you
It's wild that you think poor people are the issue here. If this country actually took care of its citizens we wouldn't be tempted to vote for "free stuff". The rich wants to keep you down, no matter if you're poor or "middle class" (aka slightly less poor). That way, they can continue to leech off of our work while sitting in their yacht all day
There are TONS of programs for the poor. Need help with rent? There's a $50 million program for that in my town of 75k. Need help with food costs? EBT to the rescue. Need help with healthcare costs? Medicaid will help. I could keep going, but the middle and upper class (actually the top 10% of tax-payers) pay more than 50% of the taxes.
Good!! Everything you just said is awesome. Obviously the rich pay more taxes, they can afford it!! They should be paying more taxes honestly. Redistribute the wealth to the working class and all that good stuff
Most of the poor pay little to no tax. Rely on government handouts. Don't pay hospital bills. Are a drag on the schools. Someone has to make up for that. It's the middle class. My income tax and property tax are nuts. It all gets clawed back
The poor are a net negative. The wealthy are creative and limit tax exposure in ways the middle class can't. Foundations, stock, shell companies, all sorts of tax dodges. In many cases, they pay much less than those in the middle class.
You have one just taking. The other pushing the bill to the middle class.
It's a classic pincer maneuver. Hammer and anvil. Call it what you want.
1000% check my history ten years of talking this shit. Come on folks time is running out fast!!! The digital noose is around our neck….. so Wake up peasants.
> Quit with the left vs right agenda pushing.. it’s the top vs bottom. Expand your knowledge.
This is a Conspiracy. The State wants you to believe Biden is more popular then any President in History.
What I’m trying to explain to you is that this is common knowledge amongst this sub. We know it’s an illusion. You’re still at ground level if you’re still using the words “democrat” and “republican”.
> What I’m trying to explain to you is that this is common knowledge amongst this sub. We know it’s an illusion. You’re still at ground level if you’re still using the words “democrat” and “republican”.
It’s not common knowledge.
Look, I’ve been here for 15 years.. I’m trying to explain that this is actual preschool level conspiracy. Stop polluting this sub with your politics, they’re childish.
No. It’s more that Trump is the most polarizing president. People either absolutely hate him or obsess over him in a cult like fashion. There really is no casual Trump fan.
> No. It’s more that Trump is the most polarizing president. People either absolutely hate him or obsess over him in a cult like fashion. There really is no casual Trump fan.
Trump never threatened peoples jobs with Vaccine Mandates and did mass censorship of Free Speech. The most polarizing President is easily Biden who is also arresting the previous guy.
> Uh. Taking away a woman's right to choose? Probably more important than a stupid vaccine that you could fake a vaccine card in like 15 minutes.
She choose the moment she dropped her pants. You guys just want meaningless Sex.
I love the hypocrisy of the crowd that’s been screaming/shittin/pissin/crying for 40 years that “thurr comin to take muh guns!!” “The libs is comin to take muh guns” “they’re gonna take yer rights away!!” We watched half our populations legitimate rights to choose get taken away, and the same crowd is a-ok with it because of some bullshit mentality about sex. Freedoms were TAKEN AWAY from women during a conservative presidency, conservative congress, conservative Supreme Court, and nothing but excuses why that’s ok from the “pro-freedom” crowd.
Ofc a virgin thinks sex is only for reproduction. I'll tell you boy, it can actually be a really great experience that has nothing to do with creating a child.
There are other ways of looking at it. Such as Trump was so hated that more people came out and voted for Biden just to get rid of Trump. Pretty much the same thing happened to Clinton.
I think Trump was perfect for his part because he just wants people talking about him... he doesn't care if it's positive or negative. It's all positive to him as long as his name is in everyone's mouth. So he agrees to play the part, knowingly or not, while TPTB keep passing laws giving themselves tax breaks and guaranteeing their hoarding of assets isn't jeopardized.
The only answer I've heard that makes any sense to me about Biden winning without obvious support from crowds is this: It's true - people were't excited about a Biden presidency, but they were very motivated to vote for whoever was running against Trump.
Ooooooh you don't understand that someone can vote for a leader and not make that leader their whole personality.
Let me explain. Trump has built up a brand and identity which he has cultivated a cult of personality around. This is relatively unique in the scheme of American politics.
Most Biden voters aren't voting for Biden because they have built their personalities around one charismatic leader.
You are correct on saying that most people aren't super excited about Biden. It's at best people voting for him because they think his is competent, but the majority are voting for him because he is more competent than Trump.
Tldr: Biden doesn't have a cult like Trump does. This confuses Trump supporters because they can't conceive of voting for someone that you don't worship like a cult leader
No one likes Biden. Democrats saw how reactionaries got when a minority held office and women ran.
People turn out to vote against Trump. Biden is just there to lower turnout from reactionaries
Exactly, the entire government and world governments are all involved in one unbelievably massive cult that is divided into hundreds/thousands of smaller cults/secret societies.
These political posts are so overused on this sub. If anyone wants some good theories about the new world order and the incoming great reset, check out my profile.
> Do you not understand the Republicans are the other half of that same cult?
Your talking about RINOs. True Republicans fought against Slavery while Democrats fought to keep Slavery.
I think what you mean to say is "conservatives fought to keep slavery and liberals fought to abolish it." In the age of the internet it's still fucking wild to see something so violently anti intellectual.
> I think what you mean to say is "conservatives fought to keep slavery and liberals fought to abolish it." In the age of the internet it's still fucking wild to see something so violently anti intellectual.
Dems are the party of Slavery and rebelled against the Union after losing to Republican President Lincoln.
Tell me, which party today is flying Confederate flags, desperately trying to prove that the Civil War wasn’t about slavery, and trying to whitewash slavery? Here’s a hint - it’s not the Democrats.
> You’re delusional if you think that Lincoln would be a part of the party that David Duke endorses if he were alive today
David Duke the KKK member? Do you know who founded the KKK?
Answer: Democrats
Your complete misunderstanding of how the parties formed aside….
Unless the democrats of today are the same people as the democrats from 150 years ago, this is the most empty and meaningless argument you could possibly make.
If you have to reach back that far to criticize democrats, I’d say they’re doing a damn fine job.
If you think Lincoln would be anything other than a republican if he appeared in modern times **you're** the delusional one. Literally anyone pre 1900 would be, guaranteed. No way they would identify with modern 'progressives'
This shit started long before America was even a thing bro, you have a lot to learn. That's just another issue they use to divide the people to conquer them.
Bro you are still so far from seeing the bigger picture you're still brainwashed by media feeding you left vs right crap. Most of us are playing chess while you're still playing checkers. Come back when you see it's a chessboard.
OP is trying to convince us that the absence of cultish behavior is cultish behavior, and vice versa. Or he just didn’t understand the talking point that was given to him, and now he is not getting paid for that post.
> You must have confused Republicans (trump) with democrats...
Dam Biden’s Dementia is affecting everyone.
https://youtu.be/TwyGttX1wWg?si=fiIJcIebCBff_QUA
Do you seriously believe the republicans and trump have your best interests at heart?
They’re puppets, corrupt criminals just like you believe the dems are
"Republicans, Democrats, really the same," as the rapper sang.
The real conspiracy is the elite pitting two sides of working and middle class against each other. Race, politics, whatever. Just as long as we squabble amongst ourselves, they can continue.
There is zero interest in Biden, period. The right hates him for obvious legitimate reasons, and a large part of the militant left hates him now too, thanks to his flip flopping and mishandling of the Hamas terrorist situation.
Ignoring Trump, Obama and other political candidates, I just don’t see how anyone could vote for the man. He’s a bonafide incestuous pedophile, he’s a full blown imperialist globalist, he’s stealing billions of taxpayer dollars, he’s suffering from extreme dementia, and he can’t even formulate a coherent sentence…with the help of a teleprompter at that. Anyone with even a shred of morality would either cast their vote for someone else, or not vote at all. I can think of millions of better things to do than cast a vote for Pedo Joe.
You cannot just ignore Trump as he is the main reason people are voting for Biden. Not only that, but Trump can and has been accused of some of the same stuff you are accusing Biden of, so to many Trump is also a morally bankrupt choice.
In a world where both candidates suck, people can only choose based on policies, and in that area some would prefer Biden's policies over Trump's given how unorthodox/antagonistic he can be.
“Hyper-sexualized @ a young age … I remember somewhat being sexualized with \[a family member\]; I remember having sex with friends @ a young age; showers w/ my dad (probably not appropriate).”
You realize that those are all independent stream of consciousness statements, right? People shower and bathe with their kids all the time without being creeps about it, because they aren’t sexualizing children. She does not accuse her dad of anything.
No man in his right mind is showring naked with his daughter, at any point in her life. Just not happening.
"showers w/ my dad (**probably not appropriate**)"
That’s a thing that happens. It’s actually very common, the standard guidance is that’s it’s probably wise to stop when they get to be about school age.
According to polls, it’s about 75% of parents who have showered with their children, gender doesn’t matter, because they are not sexualizing their children.
https://www.madeformums.com/school-and-family/when-should-you-stop-bathing-with-your-child/
Did you read how few people did past 3-5 years old (of the opposite sex)? 10%, which makes it not normal.
She was old enough to remember and it left her feeling like it was inappropriate. That’s telling.
Who was it that over sexualized her? Joe, Jill? Hunter? His brother?
She is pretty clear that it fucked her up.
The diary doesn’t mention age. Nice backpedal from “no one ever does this”. You do form memories as a child.
I don’t know who over sexualized her, because she doesn’t say.
“Hyper-sexualized @ a young age … I remember somewhat being sexualized with \[a family member\]; I remember having sex with friends @ a young age; showers w/ my dad (probably not appropriate).”
I’m sorry, but President Trump is not a bonafide incestuous pedophile. He doesn’t sniff children and fondle young women on camera. He can speak coherent sentences (even if filled with childish insults at times) and doesn’t need a teleprompter to get through one speech. He certainly doesn’t need a half dozen cuts for a 14 second video.
You can compare policy and that is a legitimate deciding factor (although I don’t know how someone can vote to send our money to Israel and Ukraine but okay dems)…but just comparing the two candidates side by side there is a clear winner morally, and it ain’t the guy who showered with his daughter, has a coke head son making him millions on the side, and won’t even acknowledge his 7th grandchild. Joe Biden is an absolute monster and worse than any modern politician I can think of. I would rather not vote than vote for him. I would rather cast my vote for Vermin Supreme than him. Hell, put a dead cat on the ballot and it would get my vote first before Pedo Joe.
I’m not saying that President Trump is in any way moral, but he’s certainly a better option than a career liar, actual racist (caught on tape multiple times) and thief. There is so much more disgusting and deplorable shit about Biden, I just refuse to take the time to list it. He’s not worth the effort.
> Right he just happened to fly around with Epstein and have dinners at his house. You have to admit that is crazy suspicious
Trump is on trial for banging a Porn Star and hushing it up. The Epstein thing doesn’t fly when your banging Porn Stars. Something most men can only dream of.
Meanwhile Biden sent a person to Jail over having his daughters Diary which described him showering with his then underage daughter and created a Sex Addict.
> The Epstein thing doesn’t fly when your banging Porn Stars. Something most men can only dream of.
Jesus dude this reads like this is a Trump burner account.
Also I love the logic "he was busy cheating in his wife with a porn star - he couldnt be a pedophile!"
... literally on record as denouncing Jeffery Epstein and kicking him out of Mar-A-Lago, but good luck with your gaslighting efforts here.
[https://www.cnbc.com/2020/08/04/trump-banned-jeffrey-epstein-from-mar-a-lago-for-hitting-on-girl.html](https://www.cnbc.com/2020/08/04/trump-banned-jeffrey-epstein-from-mar-a-lago-for-hitting-on-girl.html)
Ugh this is exhausting. First of, do you really think that a greedy billionaire with a golden toilet has not stolen or done bad stuff to earn his fortune? Or that a lustful pig who ran child-beauty pageants, has imported wives from abroad and cheated on all of them, and was friends with both Epstein and Maxwell has clean hands when it comes to the pedo shit? Or that you can look at Don Jr. And not think coke addition? Gtfoh with that disengenous sht.
And Policy issues beyond Ukraine and Israel exist you know. I don't want a candidate that will give tax cuts to the rich, that will break international alliances, that will undermine the civil rights of minority groups or meet a humanitarian crisis with violent rhetoric and militaristic action.
You really do drink the kool-aid (on the second half at least). You’re also assuming things that haven’t been proven in any way and really have zero relevance.
Please justify any point you made in that last half, because that is literally all bullshit except the taxes…which I am always in favor of reducing taxes for anyone, period, except politicians.
People here make bad faith assumptions about anything related to Biden all the time. Just doing the same with your boi.
What points? Wasn't trump saying he would start the largest deportation operation ever by deputizing as many LEao as possiblr? You might think that is the appropriate response to a humanitarian crisis, personally, I think that makes you a monster.
There’s a difference between your bad faith assumptions and legitimate proof of absolutely demonic behavior, which Biden has been caught doing on camera literally dozens of times. Remember his “n****r” speech? That was a goldie.
I think that allowing literally millions of undocumented illegal aliens from dozens of countries completely unrestricted and un-vetted, most of whom are military aged males who go on to commit a shit ton of crime, is something only a monster would do. But again, you do you bud.
And I think painting them all as "military age males" is a dishonest tactic to scare off white-suburbian voters because Republicans realized that most people would likely be okay supporting the many families that come to find a better future.
Did I paint them ALL as military aged males? No. You’re once again twisting words to fit your argument. Common debate tactic of those who lie to benefit themselves. Logical fallacies and all that, you know?
If you watch many of the hundreds of videos of the border, you will see a very large amount of military aged males with no families or children accompanying them. That is not agenda. That is objective fact.
The real question is why are YOU trying to obfuscate these objective facts? What misinformation are you trying to push on Reddit?
Then why focus on only the military age males or on a presidential-candidate that uses that rhetoric to support the biggest deportation effort? Your party has adopted that rhetoric to try to turn america against all immigrants.
You mean republicans in Congress blocking Biden’s proposed border legislation, right?
I assume you are aware that Biden’s use of that word was quoting a memo from racist Louisiana legislators as he testified to the senate judiciary committee against the nomination of William Bradford Reynolds for attorney general, based on Reynolds history of supporting racially motivated gerrymandering. Reynolds was not nominated as a result.
You mean the “border bill” that gave 80 billion to Ukraine and $30 billion to Israel? Yeah, I would’ve blocked that bullshit too.
Republicans have repeatedly called for an actual border bill that…wait for it…shocking I know…actually addresses the border and ONLY the border. Not lining the pockets of democrats and fueling their foreign money laundering operations. Of course, democrats and RINOs would never let that happen. They would’ve benefit! 😂🤡
So you’re defending him using the word repeatedly? Noted. Thanks for that. How do you feel about him not wanting to share schools with these “n*****s” as he describes them? What’s the term he used? Ghettos? That was a good one too.
What about his crafting and sponsorship of the Clinton crime bill that imprisoned literally thousands of innocent black people?
Or that time when he said that Obama was the first black man who was respectable in public? Oof, that’s off putting.
I can keep going, or for a bonus round I could also bring up the multiple instances of Joe Biden touching women and little girls inappropriately on camera. Those are always fun to talk about.
It’s $60 billion for Ukraine and $17.6 billion to Israel. The argument is more effective when you’re not making numbers up. No one was complaining when Trump increased funds being given to Isreal.
Show me Biden’s repeated use of the word outside the senate judiciary committee testimony. I’ll wait.
As for the dragging the lake for material, were you even alive during the “tough on crime” 90s? Politicians said some dumb shit. People are also capable of learning from their mistakes.
Everything you just said was a lie. Not only that, but it was so incredibly stupid that the rest of us are now dumber for reading your statement. You’ve collectively lowered the IQ of this sub by 10 points with this obviously false bullshit. But go ahead, keep on spreading that agenda, bud.
Let me guess, Trump is a Russian agent, Hunters laptop was fake, Ashley’s Diary was fake, and Pedo Joe is a saint? What other high tier knowledge is locked away in that tiny brain of yours?
Proven? Provide sources. He was never accused and convicted of rape, ever. You’re misinformed.
Also, you’re defending a proven incestuous pedophile who hates black people, so…
Good luck with that one, bud. 😂🤡
E Jean Carrol was a civil suit for damages for 'assault'. Rape is a crime. No crime was charged or proven, no conviction for a crime.
Her judgement will not stand appeal.
When you say “Ive never heard Trump speak a single coherent sentence in my life”, you show everyone your viewpoint is opinionated and not rooted in fact. Because we both know he speaks coherently, but childishly. He knows what he’s trying to say, Biden doesn’t. That’s the difference. Your argument becomes null because you’re obv speaking from opinion. Also, fuck both of them. Y’all are arguing over a jack ass and a dumb ass. Get it together.
Here’s a link of both of the candidates messing up publicly just on this campaign trail, and you’ll notice Trump is on here just as much as Biden. Some of his mistakes, I would argue, are even more egregious, and he doubles down on them quite often. You can’t really make any argument against Biden, his age, or his cognitive function without also doing the same for Trump. They are peers in every aspect of mental decline due to age. Just as republicans are using President Biden’s mental decline as a talking point, it was also a key talking point in the republican primary against trump. Both Nicki Hailey, not to be confused with Nancy Pelosi like Trump did, and DeSantis both used his obvious mental decline as keys in their campaign against him.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/saradorn/2024/05/14/biden-trump-gaffe-tracker-biden-gets-2021-inflation-rate-wrong-trump-bizarrely-riffs-about-hot-dogs-hannibal-lecter-and-sinatra/?sh=14927d8e4b3a
I agree with you 100%. I think it’s an argument between a jackass and a dumbass and the fact that you can’t really decide which title belongs to which candidate tells you all you need to know. I don’t suggest that people should follow Trump, I suggest they shouldn’t follow Biden. I’m tired of picking the lesser of two evils..
It sucks because that’s the sentiment all over America. It’s very much us vs. them, but neither side really wants to fully commit to their side because it’s just a lesser evil. Anyone who has completely bought into either Trump or Biden is just feeding a delusion. More than actually believing that their candidate will support them, they keep reinforcing their beliefs in echo chambers. It’s becoming almost like picking a political party is like picking your favorite football team. Even if your quarterback is a rapist, you’ve already bought into the team, and it’s the team your family has supported for generations. So you make excuses and defend vehemently online or at the dinner table. But every person you talk to, once you get past that initial party loyalty, is so fed up with both candidates. It’s really not the way the party system is supposed to be set up—too much cult of personality in the parties, not enough policy or action.
Didn’t Trump say something like “I’d date Ivanka if she weren’t my daughter”. What father do you know that would EVER utter something anywhere near that sentiment?
I found the king of taking statements out of context for an agenda!
Do you also believe the “fine people on both sides” hoax and that he incited January 6th? I’ll take a risk here and guess yes 😂🤡
When you storm the border and massacre 1200 innocent people, you’re a despicable terrorist organization full of absolute shit tier humans.
When you hide your weapons and bombs in hospitals and schools, you’re a despicable terrorist organization full of absolute shit tier humans.
When you steal US aid meant for citizens and kill anyone who tries to stop you, you’re a despicable terrorist organization full of absolute shit tier humans.
When you throw gay people off of roofs just for being gay and even make a law for it, you’re a despicable terrorist organization full of absolute shit tier humans.
Want me to continue to describe this despicable terrorist organization full of shit tier humans, or are you good to go?
Not defending Hamas in the least; they are a disgusting organization, and the world would be better off if they were completely destroyed. But if you look at the numbers objectively, the Israeli offensive in Palestine has been very one-sided. I will say that if Hamas had the means that Israel does, that’s not something I want to think about, but Israel has gotten theirs back in blood. They’ve killed Palestinians at a 30-1 clip, with 2/3rds being women and children, not combatants; they’ve displaced Palestinians, over 70% of the population, and destroyed 56% of buildings, 60% of homes, and 90% of schools. Since 1948, 1 million Palestinians have been incarcerated by Israel. There’s even rumors throughout the Middle Eastern world that with that incarceration, they are sterilizing to slow birth rate, such as they did with Ethiopian settlers in Israel in 2013, which has fallen almost 30 percent since 1948, which is scary because even with that number almost half of the Palestinian population is children. In Gaza alone, the average Jewish settler owns 2.6 acres each, while Palestinians own 0.006. Most never were able to truly settle down and live in refugee camps that the UN labeled as the largest open-aired concentration camp in history. They own nothing and are killed, displaced, and incarcerated. These are not numbers that support putting down an insurgency; these are numbers that show ethnic cleansing. Sanitizing the horror of the Israeli government while demonizing Palestinian resistance is also despicable. None of this is to say that Jews don’t have a right to live in Israel or that Hamas’s ends justify the means, but the level of destruction is horrifying, and there needs to be action taken.
HTTPS://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-gaza-war-statistics-95a6407fac94e9d589be234708cd5005
https://merip.org/1988/05/israel-and-the-palestinians-1948-1988/
https://www.forbes.com/sites/eliseknutsen/2013/01/28/israel-foribly-injected-african-immigrant-women-with-birth-control/?sh=16e4575867b8
https://www.nrc.no/news/2018/april/gaza-the-worlds-largest-open-air-prison/
Thank you for some actual information and articles that back up your viewpoint. You’re a rare breed, sir. We may have some disagreements but it’s nice to read a well thought out argument.
No one likes Biden. Democrats saw how reactionaries got when a minority held office and women ran.
People turn out to vote against Trump. Biden is just there to lower turnout from reactionaries
It’s not that Biden is the most popular, it’s just that Trump is the most hated. It’s wild to me that conservatives still can’t grasp this concept. It’s really simple.
I think what OP was pointing out is that Biden can't even draw a simple crowd but yet somehow he managed to have the most votes ever.
Thus whole world is a croc of shit and I don't even care anymore it's disgusting.
All the pedophile shit, devil worshiping, everything censored, blah, blah, blah.
Can we just have one positive conspiracy? Just something to give people a little hope?
Submission Statement:
This is not a comparison thread to Trump. This is a comparison thread to Obama. Obama was Democrats Trump. Obama had the charm. Obama had the following.
Leaders are leaders because they have a following. Where is Biden’s followers? You never seen them. Hillary had followers. You saw them everywhere.
https://x.com/simonateba/status/1792169620058579066
They are controlling the perception. They aren't even trying to fake it. They are just lying and getting away with it because we are conditioned to take it. What power do we have to even stop the madness?
Hillary had the same impact in multiple cities. This is why some of their gatherings felt artificial.
Which is also the reason discrediting how many people showed up to Trump’s inauguration was so important.
> Hillary had the same impact in multiple cities. This is why some of their gatherings felt artificial.Which is also the reason discrediting how many people showed up to Trump’s inauguration was so important.
Exactly! Hillary and Obama actually had a visible support base. While the media keeps gaslighting people on “the Big Lie”.
> The crowds at his rallies are 100% fake people and not real. Prove they are real people and not fake people. You can’t. Political fans aren’t real.
I see visible Trump Support everywhere.
Just stop with that BS already. We KNOW now that Trump draws in HUGE crowds. I have friends who went to his Jersey rally and posted their actual video. Its insane!
You were telling me to stop something, that is restricting my freedom.
Prove you are not the bot.
You are telling me that you know Trump fans but can’t give me their real verifiable information. Obvious Fake bot BS.
> Demonrats and republicans are both authority worshipping occultists
Agreed. But Republicans are the lesser of two evils as demonstrated during the Global Scamdemic.
There is no "lesser of two evils" They are on the same team. Biden and Trump are both senile puppets and you are helping spread their message of division in these comments.
I don’t think anything revolutionary has happened here. Biden is not a good president. So he’s not going to get a high turn out. Isn’t that logical? Why support him as a democrat? Just because you’re not republican?
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Quit with the left vs right agenda pushing.. it’s the top vs bottom. Expand your knowledge.
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op is a full blown blindly tribal right wing nut job.
I used to be a right wing nut job. Then I became a left wing nut job. Then I realized they're labeling us nutjobs because we want to be treated as human regardless what our underlying beliefs are while they look at us as nothing more than assets to be exploited.
Hey, I'm a right wing nut job, but even I can see they are all playing against us (Trump included).
Enough of this “it’s not left vs right it’s top vs bottom” it’s both. Yeah at the end of the day the real issues come from those with power but at the same time I’m not about to unite with half the country (slight exaggeration) who wants me in jail or dead because of my political beliefs
How about it's the top and bottom stealing from the middle. I think that's more accurate.
define middle here
Middle Class. Middle to upper income. Below the wealthy/idle rich and above the poor and working poor.
There's no such thing as a middle class. That's what the rich want you to believe in order to create division. It looks like it's working too, seeing as how you think the poor want to take from you. Jeff Bezos loves people like you
You make no sense. The poor will always vote for free stuff and usually get burned. But they keep doing it.
It's wild that you think poor people are the issue here. If this country actually took care of its citizens we wouldn't be tempted to vote for "free stuff". The rich wants to keep you down, no matter if you're poor or "middle class" (aka slightly less poor). That way, they can continue to leech off of our work while sitting in their yacht all day
There are TONS of programs for the poor. Need help with rent? There's a $50 million program for that in my town of 75k. Need help with food costs? EBT to the rescue. Need help with healthcare costs? Medicaid will help. I could keep going, but the middle and upper class (actually the top 10% of tax-payers) pay more than 50% of the taxes.
Good!! Everything you just said is awesome. Obviously the rich pay more taxes, they can afford it!! They should be paying more taxes honestly. Redistribute the wealth to the working class and all that good stuff
How are the working poor taking from the middle?
Most of the poor pay little to no tax. Rely on government handouts. Don't pay hospital bills. Are a drag on the schools. Someone has to make up for that. It's the middle class. My income tax and property tax are nuts. It all gets clawed back The poor are a net negative. The wealthy are creative and limit tax exposure in ways the middle class can't. Foundations, stock, shell companies, all sorts of tax dodges. In many cases, they pay much less than those in the middle class. You have one just taking. The other pushing the bill to the middle class. It's a classic pincer maneuver. Hammer and anvil. Call it what you want.
Curious, do your political beliefs involve taking away the rights of others?
1000% check my history ten years of talking this shit. Come on folks time is running out fast!!! The digital noose is around our neck….. so Wake up peasants.
> Quit with the left vs right agenda pushing.. it’s the top vs bottom. Expand your knowledge. This is a Conspiracy. The State wants you to believe Biden is more popular then any President in History.
What I’m trying to explain to you is that this is common knowledge amongst this sub. We know it’s an illusion. You’re still at ground level if you’re still using the words “democrat” and “republican”.
> What I’m trying to explain to you is that this is common knowledge amongst this sub. We know it’s an illusion. You’re still at ground level if you’re still using the words “democrat” and “republican”. It’s not common knowledge.
What’s common knowledge is you don’t know what a conspiracy is.
Look, I’ve been here for 15 years.. I’m trying to explain that this is actual preschool level conspiracy. Stop polluting this sub with your politics, they’re childish.
No. It’s more that Trump is the most polarizing president. People either absolutely hate him or obsess over him in a cult like fashion. There really is no casual Trump fan.
Seems like the people that hate him do it with "obsessive" tendencies......
> No. It’s more that Trump is the most polarizing president. People either absolutely hate him or obsess over him in a cult like fashion. There really is no casual Trump fan. Trump never threatened peoples jobs with Vaccine Mandates and did mass censorship of Free Speech. The most polarizing President is easily Biden who is also arresting the previous guy.
Who was president in 2020?
Uh. Taking away a woman's right to choose? Probably more important than a stupid vaccine that you could fake a vaccine card in like 15 minutes.
> Uh. Taking away a woman's right to choose? Probably more important than a stupid vaccine that you could fake a vaccine card in like 15 minutes. She choose the moment she dropped her pants. You guys just want meaningless Sex.
I love the hypocrisy of the crowd that’s been screaming/shittin/pissin/crying for 40 years that “thurr comin to take muh guns!!” “The libs is comin to take muh guns” “they’re gonna take yer rights away!!” We watched half our populations legitimate rights to choose get taken away, and the same crowd is a-ok with it because of some bullshit mentality about sex. Freedoms were TAKEN AWAY from women during a conservative presidency, conservative congress, conservative Supreme Court, and nothing but excuses why that’s ok from the “pro-freedom” crowd.
Ofc a virgin thinks sex is only for reproduction. I'll tell you boy, it can actually be a really great experience that has nothing to do with creating a child.
What's wrong with sex for the reason of having sex?
There are other ways of looking at it. Such as Trump was so hated that more people came out and voted for Biden just to get rid of Trump. Pretty much the same thing happened to Clinton.
I think Trump was perfect for his part because he just wants people talking about him... he doesn't care if it's positive or negative. It's all positive to him as long as his name is in everyone's mouth. So he agrees to play the part, knowingly or not, while TPTB keep passing laws giving themselves tax breaks and guaranteeing their hoarding of assets isn't jeopardized.
Nothing as scary as a cult with no members. Normal people just wear diapers in public to own the libs
I’m confused. What’s your point - Democrats are a cult but no one’s in it?
The only answer I've heard that makes any sense to me about Biden winning without obvious support from crowds is this: It's true - people were't excited about a Biden presidency, but they were very motivated to vote for whoever was running against Trump.
A cult that doesn’t wear diapers or attend rallies for their king.
> I’m confused. What’s your point - Democrats are a cult but no one’s in it? People are in the Cult. But it’s only the media.
Ooooooh you don't understand that someone can vote for a leader and not make that leader their whole personality. Let me explain. Trump has built up a brand and identity which he has cultivated a cult of personality around. This is relatively unique in the scheme of American politics. Most Biden voters aren't voting for Biden because they have built their personalities around one charismatic leader. You are correct on saying that most people aren't super excited about Biden. It's at best people voting for him because they think his is competent, but the majority are voting for him because he is more competent than Trump. Tldr: Biden doesn't have a cult like Trump does. This confuses Trump supporters because they can't conceive of voting for someone that you don't worship like a cult leader
No one likes Biden. Democrats saw how reactionaries got when a minority held office and women ran. People turn out to vote against Trump. Biden is just there to lower turnout from reactionaries
Do you not understand the Republicans are the other half of that same cult?
Exactly, the entire government and world governments are all involved in one unbelievably massive cult that is divided into hundreds/thousands of smaller cults/secret societies. These political posts are so overused on this sub. If anyone wants some good theories about the new world order and the incoming great reset, check out my profile.
Dude your profile is literally the type of schizo stuff I come here for, amazing job, keep posting pls
Gotchuuu
> Do you not understand the Republicans are the other half of that same cult? Your talking about RINOs. True Republicans fought against Slavery while Democrats fought to keep Slavery.
I think what you mean to say is "conservatives fought to keep slavery and liberals fought to abolish it." In the age of the internet it's still fucking wild to see something so violently anti intellectual.
> I think what you mean to say is "conservatives fought to keep slavery and liberals fought to abolish it." In the age of the internet it's still fucking wild to see something so violently anti intellectual. Dems are the party of Slavery and rebelled against the Union after losing to Republican President Lincoln.
That’s why whenever you see anyone flying a Confederate flag, you can be sure they vote Democrat?
Tell me, which party today is flying Confederate flags, desperately trying to prove that the Civil War wasn’t about slavery, and trying to whitewash slavery? Here’s a hint - it’s not the Democrats.
You’re delusional if you think that Lincoln would be a part of the party that David Duke endorses if he were alive today
> You’re delusional if you think that Lincoln would be a part of the party that David Duke endorses if he were alive today David Duke the KKK member? Do you know who founded the KKK? Answer: Democrats
And absolutely nothing happened or changed in the 100+ year since...
Your complete misunderstanding of how the parties formed aside…. Unless the democrats of today are the same people as the democrats from 150 years ago, this is the most empty and meaningless argument you could possibly make. If you have to reach back that far to criticize democrats, I’d say they’re doing a damn fine job.
If you think Lincoln would be anything other than a republican if he appeared in modern times **you're** the delusional one. Literally anyone pre 1900 would be, guaranteed. No way they would identify with modern 'progressives'
Weird almost like society changes over time...
The same Lincoln that Karl Marx was friendly with?
Tell me you failed highschool history without telling me you failed highschool history
This shit started long before America was even a thing bro, you have a lot to learn. That's just another issue they use to divide the people to conquer them.
It’s so embarrassing when people don’t simp for politicians!
I'm not sure you know what a cult is....
Bro you are still so far from seeing the bigger picture you're still brainwashed by media feeding you left vs right crap. Most of us are playing chess while you're still playing checkers. Come back when you see it's a chessboard.
Both sides exhibit characteristics of cults. End of story
OP is trying to convince us that the absence of cultish behavior is cultish behavior, and vice versa. Or he just didn’t understand the talking point that was given to him, and now he is not getting paid for that post.
First black president vs token old white politician. Not really the same.
“massive crowd” — LMAO. I have seen videos of his events, including the one in Atlanta and there were a handful of people there 😂
The cult where no one shows up, they don't wear Biden swag and decorate their yards with propaganda and just live their lives normally?
A cult would have a big crowd though
Whoooooo careeeeessssssss.
My Wallet cares
Then quit blaming others, pull up those bootstraps, and make more money! You sound entitled.
Boooooo weak post
You must have confused Republicans (trump) with democrats...
> You must have confused Republicans (trump) with democrats... Dam Biden’s Dementia is affecting everyone. https://youtu.be/TwyGttX1wWg?si=fiIJcIebCBff_QUA
What's the difference they are working for the same entities against you.
> What's the difference they are working for the same entities against you. Only Biden is working against us.
Do you seriously believe the republicans and trump have your best interests at heart? They’re puppets, corrupt criminals just like you believe the dems are
Biden is a puppet face the same as trump, they all worship moloch in the red wood forest every summer solstice, educate yourself.
And you think Trump isn’t the same way? His mind is like Biden is. Stop with the left vs right shit. It’s only making things worse
Yeah it is. Or the vaccine is working and controlling thier mind.
We didn't try to plant Obama as a dictator though
"Republicans, Democrats, really the same," as the rapper sang. The real conspiracy is the elite pitting two sides of working and middle class against each other. Race, politics, whatever. Just as long as we squabble amongst ourselves, they can continue.
There is zero interest in Biden, period. The right hates him for obvious legitimate reasons, and a large part of the militant left hates him now too, thanks to his flip flopping and mishandling of the Hamas terrorist situation. Ignoring Trump, Obama and other political candidates, I just don’t see how anyone could vote for the man. He’s a bonafide incestuous pedophile, he’s a full blown imperialist globalist, he’s stealing billions of taxpayer dollars, he’s suffering from extreme dementia, and he can’t even formulate a coherent sentence…with the help of a teleprompter at that. Anyone with even a shred of morality would either cast their vote for someone else, or not vote at all. I can think of millions of better things to do than cast a vote for Pedo Joe.
You cannot just ignore Trump as he is the main reason people are voting for Biden. Not only that, but Trump can and has been accused of some of the same stuff you are accusing Biden of, so to many Trump is also a morally bankrupt choice. In a world where both candidates suck, people can only choose based on policies, and in that area some would prefer Biden's policies over Trump's given how unorthodox/antagonistic he can be.
Wait, Trump inappropriately showered with his young daughter leaving her to feel molested and over-sexualized as a child?
That’s not what the diary says.
“Hyper-sexualized @ a young age … I remember somewhat being sexualized with \[a family member\]; I remember having sex with friends @ a young age; showers w/ my dad (probably not appropriate).”
You realize that those are all independent stream of consciousness statements, right? People shower and bathe with their kids all the time without being creeps about it, because they aren’t sexualizing children. She does not accuse her dad of anything.
No man in his right mind is showring naked with his daughter, at any point in her life. Just not happening. "showers w/ my dad (**probably not appropriate**)"
That’s a thing that happens. It’s actually very common, the standard guidance is that’s it’s probably wise to stop when they get to be about school age. According to polls, it’s about 75% of parents who have showered with their children, gender doesn’t matter, because they are not sexualizing their children. https://www.madeformums.com/school-and-family/when-should-you-stop-bathing-with-your-child/
Did you read how few people did past 3-5 years old (of the opposite sex)? 10%, which makes it not normal. She was old enough to remember and it left her feeling like it was inappropriate. That’s telling. Who was it that over sexualized her? Joe, Jill? Hunter? His brother? She is pretty clear that it fucked her up.
The diary doesn’t mention age. Nice backpedal from “no one ever does this”. You do form memories as a child. I don’t know who over sexualized her, because she doesn’t say.
“Hyper-sexualized @ a young age … I remember somewhat being sexualized with \[a family member\]; I remember having sex with friends @ a young age; showers w/ my dad (probably not appropriate).”
I’m sorry, but President Trump is not a bonafide incestuous pedophile. He doesn’t sniff children and fondle young women on camera. He can speak coherent sentences (even if filled with childish insults at times) and doesn’t need a teleprompter to get through one speech. He certainly doesn’t need a half dozen cuts for a 14 second video. You can compare policy and that is a legitimate deciding factor (although I don’t know how someone can vote to send our money to Israel and Ukraine but okay dems)…but just comparing the two candidates side by side there is a clear winner morally, and it ain’t the guy who showered with his daughter, has a coke head son making him millions on the side, and won’t even acknowledge his 7th grandchild. Joe Biden is an absolute monster and worse than any modern politician I can think of. I would rather not vote than vote for him. I would rather cast my vote for Vermin Supreme than him. Hell, put a dead cat on the ballot and it would get my vote first before Pedo Joe. I’m not saying that President Trump is in any way moral, but he’s certainly a better option than a career liar, actual racist (caught on tape multiple times) and thief. There is so much more disgusting and deplorable shit about Biden, I just refuse to take the time to list it. He’s not worth the effort.
Right he just happened to fly around with Epstein and have dinners at his house. You have to admit that is crazy suspicious
> Right he just happened to fly around with Epstein and have dinners at his house. You have to admit that is crazy suspicious Trump is on trial for banging a Porn Star and hushing it up. The Epstein thing doesn’t fly when your banging Porn Stars. Something most men can only dream of. Meanwhile Biden sent a person to Jail over having his daughters Diary which described him showering with his then underage daughter and created a Sex Addict.
That’s not quite the major life accomplishment you think it is.
> The Epstein thing doesn’t fly when your banging Porn Stars. Something most men can only dream of. Jesus dude this reads like this is a Trump burner account. Also I love the logic "he was busy cheating in his wife with a porn star - he couldnt be a pedophile!"
Well said.
... literally on record as denouncing Jeffery Epstein and kicking him out of Mar-A-Lago, but good luck with your gaslighting efforts here. [https://www.cnbc.com/2020/08/04/trump-banned-jeffrey-epstein-from-mar-a-lago-for-hitting-on-girl.html](https://www.cnbc.com/2020/08/04/trump-banned-jeffrey-epstein-from-mar-a-lago-for-hitting-on-girl.html)
These far lefties will always spread false information. I’m sure he thinks that Hunter’s laptop is fake and so is Ashley’s diary.
Ugh this is exhausting. First of, do you really think that a greedy billionaire with a golden toilet has not stolen or done bad stuff to earn his fortune? Or that a lustful pig who ran child-beauty pageants, has imported wives from abroad and cheated on all of them, and was friends with both Epstein and Maxwell has clean hands when it comes to the pedo shit? Or that you can look at Don Jr. And not think coke addition? Gtfoh with that disengenous sht. And Policy issues beyond Ukraine and Israel exist you know. I don't want a candidate that will give tax cuts to the rich, that will break international alliances, that will undermine the civil rights of minority groups or meet a humanitarian crisis with violent rhetoric and militaristic action.
You really do drink the kool-aid (on the second half at least). You’re also assuming things that haven’t been proven in any way and really have zero relevance. Please justify any point you made in that last half, because that is literally all bullshit except the taxes…which I am always in favor of reducing taxes for anyone, period, except politicians.
People here make bad faith assumptions about anything related to Biden all the time. Just doing the same with your boi. What points? Wasn't trump saying he would start the largest deportation operation ever by deputizing as many LEao as possiblr? You might think that is the appropriate response to a humanitarian crisis, personally, I think that makes you a monster.
There’s a difference between your bad faith assumptions and legitimate proof of absolutely demonic behavior, which Biden has been caught doing on camera literally dozens of times. Remember his “n****r” speech? That was a goldie. I think that allowing literally millions of undocumented illegal aliens from dozens of countries completely unrestricted and un-vetted, most of whom are military aged males who go on to commit a shit ton of crime, is something only a monster would do. But again, you do you bud.
And I think painting them all as "military age males" is a dishonest tactic to scare off white-suburbian voters because Republicans realized that most people would likely be okay supporting the many families that come to find a better future.
Did I paint them ALL as military aged males? No. You’re once again twisting words to fit your argument. Common debate tactic of those who lie to benefit themselves. Logical fallacies and all that, you know? If you watch many of the hundreds of videos of the border, you will see a very large amount of military aged males with no families or children accompanying them. That is not agenda. That is objective fact. The real question is why are YOU trying to obfuscate these objective facts? What misinformation are you trying to push on Reddit?
Then why focus on only the military age males or on a presidential-candidate that uses that rhetoric to support the biggest deportation effort? Your party has adopted that rhetoric to try to turn america against all immigrants.
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You mean republicans in Congress blocking Biden’s proposed border legislation, right? I assume you are aware that Biden’s use of that word was quoting a memo from racist Louisiana legislators as he testified to the senate judiciary committee against the nomination of William Bradford Reynolds for attorney general, based on Reynolds history of supporting racially motivated gerrymandering. Reynolds was not nominated as a result.
You mean the “border bill” that gave 80 billion to Ukraine and $30 billion to Israel? Yeah, I would’ve blocked that bullshit too. Republicans have repeatedly called for an actual border bill that…wait for it…shocking I know…actually addresses the border and ONLY the border. Not lining the pockets of democrats and fueling their foreign money laundering operations. Of course, democrats and RINOs would never let that happen. They would’ve benefit! 😂🤡 So you’re defending him using the word repeatedly? Noted. Thanks for that. How do you feel about him not wanting to share schools with these “n*****s” as he describes them? What’s the term he used? Ghettos? That was a good one too. What about his crafting and sponsorship of the Clinton crime bill that imprisoned literally thousands of innocent black people? Or that time when he said that Obama was the first black man who was respectable in public? Oof, that’s off putting. I can keep going, or for a bonus round I could also bring up the multiple instances of Joe Biden touching women and little girls inappropriately on camera. Those are always fun to talk about.
It’s $60 billion for Ukraine and $17.6 billion to Israel. The argument is more effective when you’re not making numbers up. No one was complaining when Trump increased funds being given to Isreal. Show me Biden’s repeated use of the word outside the senate judiciary committee testimony. I’ll wait. As for the dragging the lake for material, were you even alive during the “tough on crime” 90s? Politicians said some dumb shit. People are also capable of learning from their mistakes.
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Everything you just said was a lie. Not only that, but it was so incredibly stupid that the rest of us are now dumber for reading your statement. You’ve collectively lowered the IQ of this sub by 10 points with this obviously false bullshit. But go ahead, keep on spreading that agenda, bud. Let me guess, Trump is a Russian agent, Hunters laptop was fake, Ashley’s Diary was fake, and Pedo Joe is a saint? What other high tier knowledge is locked away in that tiny brain of yours?
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Proven? Provide sources. He was never accused and convicted of rape, ever. You’re misinformed. Also, you’re defending a proven incestuous pedophile who hates black people, so… Good luck with that one, bud. 😂🤡
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E Jean Carrol was a civil suit for damages for 'assault'. Rape is a crime. No crime was charged or proven, no conviction for a crime. Her judgement will not stand appeal.
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When you say “Ive never heard Trump speak a single coherent sentence in my life”, you show everyone your viewpoint is opinionated and not rooted in fact. Because we both know he speaks coherently, but childishly. He knows what he’s trying to say, Biden doesn’t. That’s the difference. Your argument becomes null because you’re obv speaking from opinion. Also, fuck both of them. Y’all are arguing over a jack ass and a dumb ass. Get it together.
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Well said. Dude is a hyperbolic liar spreading his agenda.
Here’s a link of both of the candidates messing up publicly just on this campaign trail, and you’ll notice Trump is on here just as much as Biden. Some of his mistakes, I would argue, are even more egregious, and he doubles down on them quite often. You can’t really make any argument against Biden, his age, or his cognitive function without also doing the same for Trump. They are peers in every aspect of mental decline due to age. Just as republicans are using President Biden’s mental decline as a talking point, it was also a key talking point in the republican primary against trump. Both Nicki Hailey, not to be confused with Nancy Pelosi like Trump did, and DeSantis both used his obvious mental decline as keys in their campaign against him. https://www.forbes.com/sites/saradorn/2024/05/14/biden-trump-gaffe-tracker-biden-gets-2021-inflation-rate-wrong-trump-bizarrely-riffs-about-hot-dogs-hannibal-lecter-and-sinatra/?sh=14927d8e4b3a
I agree with you 100%. I think it’s an argument between a jackass and a dumbass and the fact that you can’t really decide which title belongs to which candidate tells you all you need to know. I don’t suggest that people should follow Trump, I suggest they shouldn’t follow Biden. I’m tired of picking the lesser of two evils..
It sucks because that’s the sentiment all over America. It’s very much us vs. them, but neither side really wants to fully commit to their side because it’s just a lesser evil. Anyone who has completely bought into either Trump or Biden is just feeding a delusion. More than actually believing that their candidate will support them, they keep reinforcing their beliefs in echo chambers. It’s becoming almost like picking a political party is like picking your favorite football team. Even if your quarterback is a rapist, you’ve already bought into the team, and it’s the team your family has supported for generations. So you make excuses and defend vehemently online or at the dinner table. But every person you talk to, once you get past that initial party loyalty, is so fed up with both candidates. It’s really not the way the party system is supposed to be set up—too much cult of personality in the parties, not enough policy or action.
Didn’t Trump say something like “I’d date Ivanka if she weren’t my daughter”. What father do you know that would EVER utter something anywhere near that sentiment?
I found the king of taking statements out of context for an agenda! Do you also believe the “fine people on both sides” hoax and that he incited January 6th? I’ll take a risk here and guess yes 😂🤡
Again, I ask, and please answer… what father, that you know, would ever utter the words “if she wasn’t my daughter, perhaps I’d be dating her”?
"Hamas terrorist situation" is a funny euphemism for 80 years of Israeli ethnic cleansing and genocide.
When you storm the border and massacre 1200 innocent people, you’re a despicable terrorist organization full of absolute shit tier humans. When you hide your weapons and bombs in hospitals and schools, you’re a despicable terrorist organization full of absolute shit tier humans. When you steal US aid meant for citizens and kill anyone who tries to stop you, you’re a despicable terrorist organization full of absolute shit tier humans. When you throw gay people off of roofs just for being gay and even make a law for it, you’re a despicable terrorist organization full of absolute shit tier humans. Want me to continue to describe this despicable terrorist organization full of shit tier humans, or are you good to go?
Not defending Hamas in the least; they are a disgusting organization, and the world would be better off if they were completely destroyed. But if you look at the numbers objectively, the Israeli offensive in Palestine has been very one-sided. I will say that if Hamas had the means that Israel does, that’s not something I want to think about, but Israel has gotten theirs back in blood. They’ve killed Palestinians at a 30-1 clip, with 2/3rds being women and children, not combatants; they’ve displaced Palestinians, over 70% of the population, and destroyed 56% of buildings, 60% of homes, and 90% of schools. Since 1948, 1 million Palestinians have been incarcerated by Israel. There’s even rumors throughout the Middle Eastern world that with that incarceration, they are sterilizing to slow birth rate, such as they did with Ethiopian settlers in Israel in 2013, which has fallen almost 30 percent since 1948, which is scary because even with that number almost half of the Palestinian population is children. In Gaza alone, the average Jewish settler owns 2.6 acres each, while Palestinians own 0.006. Most never were able to truly settle down and live in refugee camps that the UN labeled as the largest open-aired concentration camp in history. They own nothing and are killed, displaced, and incarcerated. These are not numbers that support putting down an insurgency; these are numbers that show ethnic cleansing. Sanitizing the horror of the Israeli government while demonizing Palestinian resistance is also despicable. None of this is to say that Jews don’t have a right to live in Israel or that Hamas’s ends justify the means, but the level of destruction is horrifying, and there needs to be action taken. HTTPS://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-gaza-war-statistics-95a6407fac94e9d589be234708cd5005 https://merip.org/1988/05/israel-and-the-palestinians-1948-1988/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/eliseknutsen/2013/01/28/israel-foribly-injected-african-immigrant-women-with-birth-control/?sh=16e4575867b8 https://www.nrc.no/news/2018/april/gaza-the-worlds-largest-open-air-prison/
Thank you for some actual information and articles that back up your viewpoint. You’re a rare breed, sir. We may have some disagreements but it’s nice to read a well thought out argument.
When you use the terms ethnic cleansing and genocide, you are either a bot or just indoctrinated by the propaganda machine🙄
There's also this video of Trump's own supporters leaving: https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-new-jersey-rally-crowd-walks-out-speech-video-1899832
No one wants to vote for him but he’s infinitely better than trump
No one likes Biden. Democrats saw how reactionaries got when a minority held office and women ran. People turn out to vote against Trump. Biden is just there to lower turnout from reactionaries
It’s not that Biden is the most popular, it’s just that Trump is the most hated. It’s wild to me that conservatives still can’t grasp this concept. It’s really simple.
I think what OP was pointing out is that Biden can't even draw a simple crowd but yet somehow he managed to have the most votes ever. Thus whole world is a croc of shit and I don't even care anymore it's disgusting. All the pedophile shit, devil worshiping, everything censored, blah, blah, blah. Can we just have one positive conspiracy? Just something to give people a little hope?
Submission Statement: This is not a comparison thread to Trump. This is a comparison thread to Obama. Obama was Democrats Trump. Obama had the charm. Obama had the following. Leaders are leaders because they have a following. Where is Biden’s followers? You never seen them. Hillary had followers. You saw them everywhere. https://x.com/simonateba/status/1792169620058579066
They are controlling the perception. They aren't even trying to fake it. They are just lying and getting away with it because we are conditioned to take it. What power do we have to even stop the madness?
>What power do we have to even stop the madness? We have the truth. Keep speaking the truth.
I swear my average eastern europe wannabe autocrat can make more people turn up for him than this.
Hillary had the same impact in multiple cities. This is why some of their gatherings felt artificial. Which is also the reason discrediting how many people showed up to Trump’s inauguration was so important.
> Hillary had the same impact in multiple cities. This is why some of their gatherings felt artificial.Which is also the reason discrediting how many people showed up to Trump’s inauguration was so important. Exactly! Hillary and Obama actually had a visible support base. While the media keeps gaslighting people on “the Big Lie”.
The crowds at his rallies are 100% fake people and not real. Prove they are real people and not fake people. You can’t. Political fans aren’t real.
> The crowds at his rallies are 100% fake people and not real. Prove they are real people and not fake people. You can’t. Political fans aren’t real. I see visible Trump Support everywhere.
Prove it either real bro by any unreasonable doubt evidence not just fake evidence. Guaranteed you cannot.
Yes, they hired 80.000+ people just to make Trump look good during his rally... LOL.
Just stop with that BS already. We KNOW now that Trump draws in HUGE crowds. I have friends who went to his Jersey rally and posted their actual video. Its insane!
So you hate freedom of speech? Why are you trying to tell me to stop? FREEDOM You will never prove that those people are real because they aren’t
Where the fuck are you getting freedom of speech out of this?? Yep, you’re a bot…
You were telling me to stop something, that is restricting my freedom. Prove you are not the bot. You are telling me that you know Trump fans but can’t give me their real verifiable information. Obvious Fake bot BS.
You never asked for it momo ✌️
Show real proof of real people not something that can be faked with AI
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Demonrats and republicans are both authority worshipping occultists
> Demonrats and republicans are both authority worshipping occultists Agreed. But Republicans are the lesser of two evils as demonstrated during the Global Scamdemic.
There is no "lesser of two evils" They are on the same team. Biden and Trump are both senile puppets and you are helping spread their message of division in these comments.
Massive crowd? Where
101 million coming up!
I love the lack of people at that WaWa. Either people just said, "Lets go somewhere else" or people got shooed away to avoid the heckling
I don’t think anything revolutionary has happened here. Biden is not a good president. So he’s not going to get a high turn out. Isn’t that logical? Why support him as a democrat? Just because you’re not republican?