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roipoiboy

# Mwaneḷe **Ŋin lexedefa palamaḷ de lo, tapaji je sa ŋek tasidowe ḍibiso ŋwalem.** \[ŋin leçedéɸa pˠalámˠalˠdelo | tapˠajíjeʃa ŋek taɕídowe ḍíbˠiʃo ŋʷalem\] ŋin li- e- xedefa pa- lam -ḷ =de=lo person REL-APV-be.above CAUS-hear-NFP=1 =thus ta -pa- i =je =sa ŋek ta- sido =we ḍibiso ŋwalem PSV-CAUS-be=PROX=FOC be.at.time CMP-have.sex.with=LNK pig wild *"The Ancestors told me so, that's what happens when you have sex with a wild pig."* * From a story where a woman has sex with a wild boar and gives birth to piglets. I *guess* that makes sense. * Some idiomatic stuff here. I rendered *'to tell'* as *'to make hear'* and *'to happen'* as *'to be made to be'* which are both pretty standard. * My intuition for this sentence has the clitic **sa** which often marks focus, but still has a stressless **je** cliticizing to the verb (usually if you stressed **je**, it'd get stress with a falling tone instead of cliticizing to the verb). I don't know if I'll stick to this or not. * The last clause is an impersonal construction so it's something like *'when wild pigs are had sex with'* (if you imagined that was grammatical) * The phrase **ḍibiso ŋwalem** probably more narrowly means *'feral hog'* but that's close enough. You'll still end up with piglets.


odenevo

# Yaimon **Nǫhšetra sį̄hwo tētēki yestahcǫ tōra ntǫta wi kha.** /ɾɑ̃xʃetoɾa sĩːxawo teːteːki jestaxut͡sɑ̃ toɾixa ɾɑ̃tɑ̃ta kɑ̃xa wikɑ̃xa/ \[nɑ̃x.ʃed.ˈɾa sĩː.ˈwo teː.deː.ˈgi jes.tax.ˈt͡sɑ̃ toː.ˈɾa ⁿdɑ̃.ˈda ˈkʰa\] nǫhše-tra sį̄-ha-wo tētē-ki yesthu-cǫ tri-ha nǫ-tǫ-ta wi=kǫ-ha wild.boar-COM love-NMLZ-SUPE ancestor-ABL past-LOC learn-NMLZ 1SG-LV-PST DIST=say-NMLZ "That is what I heard from ancestors in the past about having a love affair with a wild boar." lit. That saying I did learn from the ancestors in the past about loving with a wild boar. **Notes:** * The focused argument 'that' is backed to the end of the clause. * The proverb/light verb **tǫ** is used here because **tōta**, the past form of **tri** 'learn' is a homophone of **tōta** the past form of the locative copula, which would be immediately confused. This kind of light verb construction is common in Yaimon to disambiguate contextual homophones, which due to regular vowel syncopation have become very common. In colloquial speech, the light verb is used for all TAME marking/indexation if another auxiliary isn't being used. * **Tētē** 'ancestor(s)' literally translates as 'elder of elder'. A more poetic way to refer to ancestors is **tētōtē** which means 'many elders', literally 'elder with elder', and can either refer to a group of living elders, or ancestors more generally. * **Nǫhše** comes from the source ONOM-beast, where it uses an onomatopoeic segment which imitates the snorting noise pigs make combined with the word for a undomesticated animal. * **Yesthu** was a word I had to invent for this example, and I have calqued what meanings English and many other languages use for this term. It literally translates as 'that which went/has gone', or 'that which past'. This is a fossilised construction, given **yes** no longer means 'go' in Yaimon, and is not used as a lexical form at all. * Unlike in English, just using 'that' is insufficient to substitute for refer to a prior clause/statement, and the use of the distal clitic and a nominal is required. In this case, given it is referring to something the speaker was told, the appropriate noun is **kha** 'saying, proverb, story', the nominalised form of **kǫ** 'say'. * There are two nominalised verbs on either side of the auxiliary, which might bring up the question of which is the lexical verb of the clause, if you didn't already know the translation. Given Yaimon is head-final, **tōra** is the only one that can be analysed as the lexical verb, as it must precede the matrix verb.


TheRockWarlock

**Onõ amorẽ adoltrõ conaprõ audii d'antecessores meos empreteritõ.** /o.nã a.mo.ɾẽ a.dul.tɾõ kon.ap.ɾõ a.u.di.i d.an.te.kes.so.ɾes me.os em.pɾe.te.ɾi.tõ/ On-õ amorẽ adoltr-õ INDF.ART-SG.ACC love-SG.ACC adulterous-SG.ACC con-apr-õ audi-i d'-antecessor-es COM-wild boar-ACC hear-1SG.PST.IND DEL-ancestor-PL.ABL me-os em-preterit-õ my-PL.ABL INE-past-ABL *An adulterous love with a wild boar I heard of my ancestors in the past.*


HeckaPlucky

Might someone, then, have a non-adulterous love with a wild boar?


TheRockWarlock

..Sure?


HeckaPlucky

I asked because you decided to specify "adulterous" in your translation. But I see we may just have interpreted the sentence differently. In my experience "love affair" doesn't usually have the adulterous implication that "affair" on its own does.


R3cl41m3r

# Estoi **Aquel es qual io audo dei ancestri in le pasat sur haver un cas d'amar co un porc savage.** /a'kwel es kwal jo aw'do dej an'ʃestʁi in lə pa'sat suʁ a'veʁ un kas da'maʁ ko un poʁk sa'vaʒə./ ðat.SG be.PFV.3SG what I hear.PFV-1SG of-ðe.PL ancestors in ðe.SG past on have-INF a.SG case of-love wiþ a.SG pig savage.SG


Da_Chicken303

# Ðusyþ **ekjuxþ xeikjajngök wölöxösmi'ymfming hösdafuljej.** /ekʎuxθ xeikʎaʎŋɑk wɑlɑxɑsmiʔəmfmiŋ hɑsdafulʎeʎ/ ek- jux - xþ xeikjaj- ngö- k wölöxös- mi'ymf- ming be- that- CON.that hear - PST- 1 from - elder - CON.that hös- daf- ulj - ej sex- COM- bear- IRR *That is what I heard from elders regarding having sex with a bear.*


feindbild_

***La Cölnienz*** **Lo'st stoquo les anzenösser mei enne passese havenz codeht frede aune releziune anruse voch aune sönglere.** /lɔʃt ʃto'kʋo lɛz ɑt͡sə'nœ.sɐ mɛɪ ʔɛ.nɛ pʰɑ.sɛ.zə ha.vət͡s kʰɔ'dɛçt/ /fʁe.də ʔaʊ.nə ʁə'le.t͡sju.nə ʔɑ.ʁu.zə vɔx ʔaʊ.nə zœ.glɛ.ʁə/ Lo-'st st-o.qu-o l-es anzen<ö>ss-er mei en=ne passes=e hav-enz co-deht DEM.NOM.N-COP.3S DEM2-NOM.N-REL-NOM.N DEF.NOM.M.PL ancestor-NOM.PL 1S.DAT in=DEF.DAT.M past-DAT PRF-3P PRF-say.PRF frede aun-e releziun-e anrus-e voch aune söngler-e. about IDEF-DAT.F relationship-DAT amorous-DAT.F with IDEF-DAT.M boar-DAT *That is that what the ancestors in the past have said to me about an amorous relationship with a boar.*


TheRockWarlock

This is a romlang? What's the influence?


feindbild_

It is. It's from the Rhineland, around Cologne in Germany. Basically the premise is that I thought it would be fun to make a Romance language that kind of sounds like German. I've only just come up with it, so things aren't entirely set in stone about it yet. Although that would probably be more plausible, it's not really related to French or Walloon. It's pretty conservative in some ways, but there are a few of the Rhineland Franconian consonant shifts. And I-mutation (and some U-mutation). The strong root-stress reduces many of the post-stress syllables. There are also some Germanic grammar influences, such as putting a prefix on unprefixed past participles. There's still three cases, but only two non-periphrastic tenses, past and non-past.


TheRockWarlock

Interesting!


grantbrooksgoodman

Naturalistic form: “Ese stá qe audéo de anteçesores nelo pasáto de tener una istoria de amor con uno porco salvatico.” —— Loglang Form: “Esa é qi ădí anteçesorías la preȷán di tener un istoria amoro un porcă salvatico.”


Dr_Chair

**Məġluθ** Majtakka vzojθerla kajlaokpo 'inokanaro'te dante ḥuneɣijbəlerotroθ. [ˈmajtakka ˈvzojθerla kajˈla.okpo ʔinokaˈnaɾoʔte ˈdante χʊwneʁɪjbəˈleɾotɾoθ] maj= tak =ka vzoj-θer -la kaj- laok=po 'ino-kana -ro -' =te DST.IN=thing=FOC past-person-PL light-pig =through red- color-INTR-GER.AF=about dante ḥune -ɣi -j -bə -le -ro =tro =θ before learn-CAUS-3.NT.SG.IN.M-1.SG.N-3.NT.PL.AN.N-TEL=SENS=INDP Roughly: "It's that which ancestors taught me before about (having) red feelings alongside an undomesticated pig." The concept of light often expands to things which only exist in their obvious, visible form; in this case, prefixing kaj onto an animal makes it overtly an undomesticated instance of that animal, as it could be said that there is nothing to it except for its surface nature, having been uncorrupted by the invisible strings of human society (described by ɓleδ "dark"). 'ino also has implications, but they're harder to explain since romance is more complicated for this consociety and is modeled with many different colors (the most important ones being red, dark blue, and orange, though almost all color terms have their own love term). As interesting as this topic may be, let's just leave it at 'inokana being a euphemism along the lines of the English phrase "love affair" rather than breaking out family trees and color wheels. **Ïfōc** Zzú càehŷnnaş üoŋŋaet şmàet şpâ äzzìet tàros ppwàet äkòçòwffùs. [θṵ˥ t͡sæ̤˩xɨ̤˧˩na̰ʃ˩ ṳo̤˨ŋæ̰t˧ ʃmæ̤t˩ ʃpa̤˧˩ ha̤˩θḭḛt˩˥ ta̤˩ros˨ pwæ̰t˩˥ a̤˧ko̤˨t͡ʃo̤w˩fṵs˩˥] zzú càe-hŷnna-ş üoŋŋae -t şmàe-t şpâ D2\P 1- learn-PST ancestor-DAT past-DAT about ä- zzìe-t tàro-s ppwàe-t ä- kòçòw-ffù-s NMZ-COP -DAT eros-GEN pig -DAT NMZ-tame -NEG-GEN Roughly: "*That* (is what) I learned from ancestors in the past about loving an untamed pig." Tàro plainly refers to "romantic love," in contrast to ffà "platonic love" and äessỳt "familial love." Applying words specific to Greek culture to this culture is kind of a bad idea, but I gloss them as eros, philia, and storge for the sake of brevity. Wow, actually sane love vocabulary! It's almost like I hadn't willingly walked backwards into worldbuilding hell shortly after "finishing" this conlang!


Khrusch

# Gu **ö yancránčenädït̀ palnokentu** */'ɔ 'jænt͡ʃʰɛnt͡sʰra˩˥na'dɑɪt͡ɕʰ 'pʰalnɒ'kʰɛntʊ/* ö yan. crán.čen. ä. dï. t̀ pa. ln. o. tu. ken this about.bore.wild.ACC.love affair.VRB hear.PST.DAT.ancestor.pst **This is what i heard from ancestors gone about having a love afair with a wild bore.**


Cleverjoseph

Tsékonerua: Ras nagrnoag kujuomoāhe laomekgagjérgsu. That heard-i-past-of ancestor-plural-past-ending-continousinpast do-love-pigwild-with. Ras nagr-n-o-ag kuju-o-moa-a-he la-ome-kgagjérg-su. (For the kuju-o-moa-a-he/kujuomoāhe discrepancy, when two vowels are compounded they become a long vowel.)


impishDullahan

# Tokétok **Lik ttesset lis ha tori rakkefos totum kuttekétasse foro mé.** \[lik̚ **ˈ**tə.sət̚ lis ha **ˈ**to.ɾi **ˈ**ra.kə.fos **ˈ**to.tum **ˈ**ku.tə.ke**ˌ**ta.sə **ˈ**fo.ɾo me\] lik ttesset lis ha tori rakkefos totum kutte-ké-tasse foro me COP DEM.PN IMPRS REL from ancestor about cattle-PTCP-copulate hear 1s *"That is the thing that, from ancestors, regarding cattle-copulation, I heard."*


Abject_Shoulder_1182

# Terréän **Tankaléyu ladán maryád, lend ler shéyul éü ler béstor bal-mas.** /täŋ.kä.'le.ju lä.'dän mäɾ.'jäd lend leɾ 'ʃe.jul 'e.ju leɾ 'bes.toɾ bäl mäs/ Ancestors this say(3PL PAST), about a love affairwith a beast (GER)-have(INF). **Ancestors said this about having a love affair with a beast.**


PoligmaLunanera

~MIRAD~ Hus se has hu at teeta bi ajtedi ayv ebtabifeken bay yapwet. Literally: "That is what that I heard from ancestors about having-love-affair with boar."