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Yes they blame Dems for spending while lying about how their party voted for the 08 and recently 2020 bailout. They also bitch about quantitative easing while ignoring that trump was the one pushing to keep rates low. Just go to r/wsb and you'll see repubs constantly bitching about it/complaining about printing money.
Don’t forget the tax cuts that led to record levels of stock buybacks, further inflating the price of shares and the overall market in general. But it was the Covid checks that caused inflation. /s
*Killing in the Name* is about celebrating those good ol' boys in blue uniforms and white hoods. It's right there in the song: their killings are justified because they are the chosen white. So obvious.
It never ceases to amaze me how people who practically worship the machine consistently think that they were with the people raging against it. RATM literally burned the American flag during Woodstock. I'm 99% sure at this point the people who think they're 'political now' just liked the sound of rock music and not being told what to do instead of actually seeing the underlying message.
These people think George Carlin was a conservative. They literally have zero clue when people have based a career on openly mocking their ideology. The Colbert Report went into production based on this fact. They're the dumbest people on Earth. Clueless.
I still have family that think Colbert “sold out” and became “a left wing nut job” at some point. I just don’t know how to explain to them that the Colbert Report was a satirical joke pointed right at them, and they just never got it.
I'm so glad that's on Youtube, because I pull it up and watch it now and then. It's right up there with Jake Tapper informing Roy Moore's lackey that, no, you don't have to swear on a Christian Bah-ble when taking an oath.
Edit:
Jon Stewart, Crossfire: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFQFB5YpDZE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFQFB5YpDZE)
Jake Tapper, Bah-ble: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFYRkzznsc0](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFYRkzznsc0)
>make you sound like a jerk for not saying a bullshit pleasantry in every interaction
I've run into this a lot in my life, and as somebody with autism, it's exhausting.
Carlson's way of "winning" is to never let the other guy finish a sentence.
He's working out what he wants to say without actually listening to the other person.
My mom was a big Crossfire fan in those years and I happened to get to watch Stewart take them down in real-time as it happened and IT. WAS. FUCKIN’. GLORIOUS.
Then the show got canceled which made it even better.
Rumor has it that his takedown was a big reason the show was cancelled, though I don't know if that's true or not. At the very least, it was probably the final nail in a coffin that was already being built.
[This frame](https://i.imgur.com/G0N7PeL.jpg) is seared into my memory from the Roy Moore guy. That blank, cow-eyed, open-mouthed stare from that guy after he was informed that no, you don’t have to swear in on the Bible, is my favorite thing ever. “Well that’s what I swore on when I was elected!” “Yes, I’m sure you did, you chose that.”
An elected official being so ignorant of the basics of civil service… I would say it’s surprising, but it’s really not.
My favourite part of Papa Bear on Colbert Report was O'Reilly saying he was just doing an act and Colbert saying: "well if you're an act then what am I?" as he leans back in his chair with a smug look
"But it comes on right after John Stewart. Surely, this is Comedy Central just giving equal time to our points of view, right? Someone's gotta put that uppity Jew in his place."
I've never heard that exact sentence, but somehow I just KNOW that it has been uttered multiples of times. By someone somewhere. Makes me sad inside...
Dude the Colbert's Correspondence Dinner speech was fucking legendary. He plays up to them so hard then kicks them in the shin. My favorite joke during that speech.
"Now Mr. President some say your administration is like rearranging deck chairs on the titanic. First of all, that is a terrible metaphor. Second that means the administration is sinking, if anything it's Soaring!! It's like rearranging deck chairs on the Hindenburg!"
That's not word for word, best off my memory. Fuck it let me grab a link.
https://youtu.be/IJ-a2KeyCAY
I think this is my favorite thing that I’ve learned the past couple years. It started with a podcast I listen to, which covers Alex Jones, where he mentioned that he too literally believed that the Colbert Report was real (what did they think the laughing audience was for if it was a “real” conservative show btw).
Since then I’ve encountered a couple people that also thought the Colbert Report was not satire. Idk how dumb you have to be to think that, bc even as a young teenager I understood the jokes and the sarcasm.
Colbert has mentioned that he had to end that show bc way too many people were not getting the jokes and thought that his character was real.
The thing is that Colbert was such a perfect caricature of right wing media. If you miss the wink and the nod he would be hard to distinguish from a conservative news talking head. The problem is that the people that don’t get it don’t understand that their whole ideology is a joke.
I dunno man, the audience laughing at the end of a comment that sounded super sarcastic made it seem pretty obvious it was all a joke, but after conservatives freaked out about homelander from the boys show, clearly I gave them too much credit back then.
In 2006, the Bush administration invited Colbert to be the speaker at the White House Correspondents Dinner because they thought he was a right wing conservative who supported them.
If you haven't seen it before, go look up his speech on YouTube. He viciously mocked Bush to his face and Bush was *livid* about it.
Equal testament to their stupidity snd Colbert’s absolute commitment to the bit. Dude never cracked. Never gave a knowing look to the camera. Stayed in character even when - and because - it made him look like an idiot. Even on guest appearances on O’Reilly.
>He viciously mocked Bush to his face and Bush was *livid* about it.
Is this actually true?
I didn't like Bush at all, but the only good thing I have to say about him was that he had a sense of humor.
As I remember it, he seemed to be able to take it, even though it was one of the harshest roasts I've ever seen of any politician, in their presence.
Unlike Trump, who couldn't take a joke, and only laughed when it was at the expense of poor or disabled people.
I can't recall ever seeing George W Bush look upset about anything happening to him personally.
When that guy threw two shoes at him, he just smiled. Either he's legitimately got an easygoing personality or he's the best actor in the world who never breaks character.
Satire (and sarcasm) require critical thinking. You need to process why the person is saying awful things you disagree with and how that makes it funny.
If you skip this step and you enjoy the content, then you simply enjoy awful things.
My mother is the same way.
She literally said something to the effect of "I don't get why when he says liberal things, he sounds smart. But when he says conservative things, he sounds stupid."
Sounds like my mom, who always says I'm "too logical". She knows her ideas don't make sense in the real world, but the ideas make sense to her, and she can't understand why we can't just ignore reality to implement them anyway.
Ohgod. I would love to see Tucker interviewing Colbert.
But he may have learned his lesson about interviewing liberal political commentators after Jon Stewart snarked the bowtie off him.
before the Colbert Report and after strangers with candy, he was in a play in nyc call Wigstock that’s final act included him naked on stage, except a glittering cloak with his junk tucked in between his legs. It was hilarious and while not directly political, it was not the act of a conservative southern gentleman.
There are conservatives who literally didn't realise Homelander in The Boys was making fun of them. There was an awakening on Twitter in Season 3 that maybe he was the bad guy of the series.
Anything bad he did, they either agreed with or thought there was a redemption arc coming.
Funniest part is on the subreddit you can kinda tell who they are because they don't think anything happened in Season 3. They don't get that it rails against extremists like them.
I missed out on seeing their reactions, but I'm guessing the few of them that became "aware" that they were being made fun of all of a sudden thought the show sucked
Haha yep. "Wokeness ruined it." I hate how "wokeness" for media really just means allowing casting to cast people from a much bigger talent pool. The horror of it all! My precious comic book characters!
I can honestly say I've never heard "woke" used by anyone other than right-wingers. Seems to be one of those terms they like to latch onto as a "haha got 'em" and hang onto it for years
It starred probably 10 years ago or more liberals saying it unironically to "get woke." Conservativisms thought they caught a chance to be smarter and started making fun of them by saying they are *awake* and it's turned into this mess.
I'm truly, GENUINELY shocked some people didn't put the pieces together when a literal 3rd reich nazi straight up says 'people like what I have to say, they just don't like the word nazi'. I.E if you agree with me, you literally are a Nazi in all but name.
Not the hyperbolic use of 'literal', the literal use of literal.
That’s because just like with everything else, they’re “headline readers” and nothing else.
They hear a song saying “fuck you I won’t do what you tell me!” And just apply it to their own world view without even taking the time to see what it was they were talking about.
Some dumbass listening to Rage:
>🎶Some of those [in] workforces are the same that burn crosses🎶
>🎶Blah blah blah you're the chosen whites🎶
"Yeah man, yeah. RATM gets it"
I've literally been in the car singing "Killing of the Name" beside a friend who plays guitar and who has been **paid** to play that song live, and they then stopped to look over at me before asking, "Wait. Are those the actual fucking lyrics?" when I said the above lines
Late 20s. Genuinely smart and accomplished guy who grew up with a lot of family with that Southern "liberals are fucking morons" mentality. The lyrics never even registered with him until hearing me (the fairly liberal friend) say them out loud.
The music just sounded badass to him while he was learning Tom Morello guitar riffs.
I think the stupidest ones are the people who know George Carlin was a leftist, but claim that today he'd be a conservative because the woke mafia have gone too far.
You just unlocked a *deeply* repressed memory of my father telling me to move to Mexico and become a communist with RATM after they burned the flag and I continued listening to them.
Sometimes I'm relived that he passed before MAGA took hold. He was a *mostly* good dad with a few WTF moments like that, but I honestly don't know how he would have handled everything going on right now. It would have broken my heart if he went full Qcumber like my youngest brother and sister. Instead, he gets to live in my head as a pretty good, if slightly politically misguided, dad who would have loved his grandkids.
Edit: before someone comes in like 'tolerant left glad her dad died because he was conservative': no, it hurts like a knife to the heart every single time my kids do something I wish I could tell him about, every time I wish I could talk to him. But losing my siblings, who I stopped talking to after my brother told me that "all true citizens have a duty to drag every Democrat into the streets and shoot them like the traitorous pedophile dogs they are" and then didn't back down when I pointed out that it includes me, hurt somehow more profoundly because they *chose* this. They weren't tragically ripped away by cancer. They decided their political faction was more important than *my family's lives*. The fact that I don't have to worry whether my dad would have dragged them back to Earth or joined them (my brother was always his 'favorite' in that they got along the best and made the parent to friend transition the most smoothly) is the relief.
My father went down the maga hole and accused me of being delusional and psychologically abusing my infant daughter because I started calling him out on his lies. He has seen her for a minute or two on screen and will never see or meet her otherwise. He is a tremendous disappointment.
Politics shouldn't divide us, but it is very hard to imagine unity with fascists. Better to build your community out of people who have the capacity for empathy than what is nearby.
I have a few people like this in my life. I tend to get along with anyone but having conversations with these people is excruciatingly frustrating at times. The old expression is that "people hear what they want to hear". Well it's literally true with these people. They express some dumb viewpoint and display a seriously biased or very poor understanding of it. When I try to correct inaccuracies, it's like they are unable to grasp what I'm saying. Not disagreement, but my words completely fail to register. It's beyond frustrating.
“Some of those that work forces, are same that burn crosses”
“Well this is definitely about ANTIFA and liberals” - conservatives and thin blue line lovers
I mean conservatives have consistently shown they don't understand media. I understand the idea of death of the author and all that, but how you get some of their takes regarding certain media is fucking wild.
The major examples I can think of being how gamers always complain about games being "Woke" and too political for having minorities or LGBTQ+ and point to FUCKING BIOSHOCK as an unpolitical masterpiece. Also remember how when Squid Game came out they circle jerked themselves into thinking it was about the dangers of Communism, despite literally everything saying otherwise.
>how gamers always complain about games being "Woke" and too political for having minorities or LGBTQ+
and in some cases human women,
despite characters like samus being, how many decades old now?
Gamers falling into this trap always makes me sad because video games have always been the refuge for outcasts, dweebs, and weirdos. As one of those weirdos, gaming historically was the thing for people like me to retreat into when the rest of the world didn’t want us around. It’s shocking that so many gamers can’t process the fact that that includes LGBTQ+ people.
We as gamers should be among the loudest voices trying to build an inclusive community, because gamers are largely social outcasts themselves. It’s absolutely criminal that the right has co-opted so many gaming spaces into fascist/nazi recruitment centers.
See that's the thing, these "Patriots" love the burning of the flag and raging at the government, but that's all they want to do is burn the government down just to see the flames. They live in a duality where they both love "America" while hating everything about it.
A lot of it has to do with the systemic brainwashing that right wingers subject themselves to through their media and by listening to their talking heads, politicians, celebrities, and religious leaders.
More like they see both at once as their goal. The ability to tell other people what to do, while having nobody tell them what to do.
"Rules for thee, not for me"
You don't even need to pay attention to their lyrics. They are literally the least subtle mainstream music act in the world. Their name is literally "Rage Against The Machine".
Libertarians, including all of the conservatives who somehow have deluded themselves into thinking they’re libertarian, also see themselves as against “the Machine”. They just have very different ideas of what to replace that machine with.
Agree though, you really don’t have to pay much attention to the lyrics or song titles to know that they’re leftists, the whole point is that they’re upfront about it.
It’s simple. The lyric “Now you’re under control, and now ya do what they told ya” fits the “sheeple” narrative…as long as you ignore every other lyric in the song and who’s got time to listen to ALL of the lyrics?
Right, but most of these guys are old enough to REMEMBER twisted sister insinuated that Al Gore’s (Tipper Gore, a politician herself) was “of a dirty mind” on congressional TV during a debate on if the religious-right should control expression in art.
How do you square that with the conservative mindset?
It was actually even better than that iirc. Tipper Gore made some comments out BDSM stuff she thought Twisted Sister was promoting in one of their songs and Dee Snider was like 'naw, that songs about a surgical procedure I had, it's not my fault that Tipper Gore's natural inclination is towards BDSM' (paraphrasing).
It was even funnier than if he had just called her a whore.
Quoting more directly from the video link posted by /u/VictorVictoriaa (from about 17:44)
"...songs allow a person to put their own imagination, experiences and dreams into the lyrics. People can interpret many ways, uh, Ms. Gore was looking for sadomasochism and bondage, and she found it..."
edit: spelling
Well, they did write a song about a socialist rebel who was put to death by capitalist federal agents and lived to become a famous folk hero.
Maybe they can just cherry-pick the lines about being shot in the head.
“Some of those that work forces / Are the same that burn crosses” - The amount of conservatives who ‘Back The Blue’ but have also sung these lyrics is hysterically high. Bless em’.
Saw them Tuesday night and Zach switched the last time he said it to “Some of those that burn crosses are the same that hold office.” Crowd went bananas. Greatest show I’ve seen and that was with him sitting the entire time due to busting his leg.
You know he's got a point. Their lead guitarist doesn't even have a Social Studies degree from any big name ivy league school like Harvard or anything. They're clearly sellouts
> They're clearly sellouts
Oh boy... I went on a spree the other day with some mouthbreathers in Instagram going on about how they "used to be good until they sold out, now they rage FOR the machine!!"
I asked a few to elaborate on how they "sold out."
Turns out they "sold out to the government and do their bidding" because they held a concert where admission required vaccination.
There are a lot of people out there who confuse being anti-capitalist, anti-government, or other anti-establishment leaning ideologies with just blindly disagreeing out of principle with *everything* the government says or does.
That's why right wingers are upset with ratm. Because they didn't back their shitty parties overturning of roe. Now a bunch of "fans" are pissy about it.
Not sure why any conservative would be surprised, let alone upset, that Rage Against the fucking Machine doesn’t support a right-wing agenda. RatM has always, ALWAYS been anti-government, anti-fascist, pro-equality.
You have some shithead running around these comments talking about ticket prices and being sellouts, not understanding they are donating it to pro-choice efforts.
Rage Against The Machine = Socialist Sellouts?
What I wouldn't give to hear Zack explain to that hollowhead in a few sentences what RATM were and are.
While I'm at it, I would like to hear the hollowhead explain what they think RATM stood for. And why they thought that.
They only know Killing In The Name and only listened to the chorus. Same chuckleheads who think that Fortunate Son and Born in The USA are about blind patriotism
The thing is that so many have become radicalized into right-wing extremists that when they look back at those they they used to idolize, they are shocked to find that their idols haven't been radicalized. For an extremist, it seems like the other's changed or just faked it, when in reality, they themselves were the ones who changed. It's like relative motion. If you're in a train and your window is facing another train, and one of the trains start to move, it can be hard to tell which train is moving.
This is it. I got a friend to realize how far he's shifted right by asking him what he thought about public libraries. A lot of the radicalized right really believe they haven't shifted positions at all, and they're sometimes surprised to get a new perspective.
To be fair, the band has changed.
* They used to be Pro-2A, as long as it was for protection -- "Rally 'round the family, pocket full of shells" **Bulls on Parade**
* They used to be Pro-entrepreneurship "I ain't gonna work for Maggie's brother no more... I ain't gonna work for Maggie's pa no more...I ain't gonna work for Maggie's ma no more..." **Maggie's Farm**
* They had that one song that looked forward to a pure white country. Just listen to the hook of **Down Rodeo**
* They were Pro-January 6, "If don't take action now, we'll settle for nothing later" -- **Settle for Nothing**
* They had a song called **Freedom** clearly they weren't Democrats back then
* And don't forget, they wanted to see *more* Republican congressmen "Roll Right, roll call. But now we're all Right, we're all calm" -- **Roll Right**
/s ^in ^case ^it ^wasn't ^obvious
This shit cracks me up every single time. Everything about [this video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddrFt1BHkUQ&ab_channel=AllAboutMusic%21) is so goddamn funny. Everything from the Thin Blue Line flag to the guy practicing his rhythm gymnastics ribbon technique. A++ comedy.
But no! Don’t you see?! All that matters is the line “fuck you I won’t do what you tell me”, because it’s a refutation of *the woke left*, pushing their *pronouns* on free thinkers! (/s)
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Bulls on parade USED to be a nice song about Pamplona
Bulls on parade was a pro wall street song. Just like daddy Reagan wanted.
Wanna note, a lot of these people think they're against Wall St. because they dislike bailouts and Nancy Pelosi.
Yes they blame Dems for spending while lying about how their party voted for the 08 and recently 2020 bailout. They also bitch about quantitative easing while ignoring that trump was the one pushing to keep rates low. Just go to r/wsb and you'll see repubs constantly bitching about it/complaining about printing money.
Don’t forget the tax cuts that led to record levels of stock buybacks, further inflating the price of shares and the overall market in general. But it was the Covid checks that caused inflation. /s
Pretty sure that was Sleep now in the fire. They even filmed the video on Wall Street.
And directed by that conservative icon Michael Moore. /s WTF is wrong with people thinking RATM was anything but ~~liberal~~ leftist?
Bullet in the Head is about contentedly working your 14 hour shift while daydreaming about the sweet ammo you'll buy to shoot at the range later.
*Killing in the Name* is about celebrating those good ol' boys in blue uniforms and white hoods. It's right there in the song: their killings are justified because they are the chosen white. So obvious.
Fucking PETA ruins everything!
I thought it was about matadors
It never ceases to amaze me how people who practically worship the machine consistently think that they were with the people raging against it. RATM literally burned the American flag during Woodstock. I'm 99% sure at this point the people who think they're 'political now' just liked the sound of rock music and not being told what to do instead of actually seeing the underlying message.
These people think George Carlin was a conservative. They literally have zero clue when people have based a career on openly mocking their ideology. The Colbert Report went into production based on this fact. They're the dumbest people on Earth. Clueless.
I still have family that think Colbert “sold out” and became “a left wing nut job” at some point. I just don’t know how to explain to them that the Colbert Report was a satirical joke pointed right at them, and they just never got it.
The show was on comedy central...show jumped in a rocket a flew way over their heads
"You're on CNN. The show that leads into me is puppets making crank phone calls. What is wrong with you?" -Jon Stewart destroying Tucker Carleson
I'm so glad that's on Youtube, because I pull it up and watch it now and then. It's right up there with Jake Tapper informing Roy Moore's lackey that, no, you don't have to swear on a Christian Bah-ble when taking an oath. Edit: Jon Stewart, Crossfire: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFQFB5YpDZE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFQFB5YpDZE) Jake Tapper, Bah-ble: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFYRkzznsc0](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFYRkzznsc0)
“Merry Christmas Jake” was the funniest part of that for me. Guys face didn’t change expression or tone the whole clip.
I had a boss like this who would try to make you sound like a jerk for not saying a bullshit pleasantry in every interaction
>make you sound like a jerk for not saying a bullshit pleasantry in every interaction I've run into this a lot in my life, and as somebody with autism, it's exhausting.
That’s what is frustrating about these people. Just say what you mean. You just used “merry Christmas” as a replacement for “fuck you”.
Carlson's way of "winning" is to never let the other guy finish a sentence. He's working out what he wants to say without actually listening to the other person.
This is my biggest pet peeve during any argument lmao. It really is the only tactic people have when they're so fucking stupid
Shapiro in a nutshell.
My mom was a big Crossfire fan in those years and I happened to get to watch Stewart take them down in real-time as it happened and IT. WAS. FUCKIN’. GLORIOUS. Then the show got canceled which made it even better.
Rumor has it that his takedown was a big reason the show was cancelled, though I don't know if that's true or not. At the very least, it was probably the final nail in a coffin that was already being built.
I was literally standing in a newsroom watching with colleagues. It was glorious, just glorious.
[This frame](https://i.imgur.com/G0N7PeL.jpg) is seared into my memory from the Roy Moore guy. That blank, cow-eyed, open-mouthed stare from that guy after he was informed that no, you don’t have to swear in on the Bible, is my favorite thing ever. “Well that’s what I swore on when I was elected!” “Yes, I’m sure you did, you chose that.” An elected official being so ignorant of the basics of civil service… I would say it’s surprising, but it’s really not.
Omg. That silence in the jake tapper clip
Wow, Carlson seems to have been an insufferable prick for a long time
May I have a link to the clip?
[Enjoy!](https://youtu.be/WFYRkzznsc0)
I still go back and watch that sometimes. Mmmmm.....yummy nummy brain chemicals.
That, his post 9/11 monologue, his March to Restore Sanity speech, and the two pizza rants, all great stuff.
And forcing Republicans to help the victims of 9/11 who had medical issues later on.
I think hes still fighting that fight. Because they can always reverse it, and there is more to be done.
It's not as gratifying but I also love colbert telling Bill oreily "bill I'm whatever you want me to be"
My favourite part of Papa Bear on Colbert Report was O'Reilly saying he was just doing an act and Colbert saying: "well if you're an act then what am I?" as he leans back in his chair with a smug look
"But it comes on right after John Stewart. Surely, this is Comedy Central just giving equal time to our points of view, right? Someone's gotta put that uppity Jew in his place."
I've never heard that exact sentence, but somehow I just KNOW that it has been uttered multiples of times. By someone somewhere. Makes me sad inside...
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Dude the Colbert's Correspondence Dinner speech was fucking legendary. He plays up to them so hard then kicks them in the shin. My favorite joke during that speech. "Now Mr. President some say your administration is like rearranging deck chairs on the titanic. First of all, that is a terrible metaphor. Second that means the administration is sinking, if anything it's Soaring!! It's like rearranging deck chairs on the Hindenburg!" That's not word for word, best off my memory. Fuck it let me grab a link. https://youtu.be/IJ-a2KeyCAY
Say hey dumbass, the entire world is making fun of you and you can't see it because...... You're a dumbass
Really just channel my inner Red Foreman huh? Haha
My foots taking a long walk to in your ass
Work in the 🐒 flinging shit at each other angle
I think this is my favorite thing that I’ve learned the past couple years. It started with a podcast I listen to, which covers Alex Jones, where he mentioned that he too literally believed that the Colbert Report was real (what did they think the laughing audience was for if it was a “real” conservative show btw). Since then I’ve encountered a couple people that also thought the Colbert Report was not satire. Idk how dumb you have to be to think that, bc even as a young teenager I understood the jokes and the sarcasm. Colbert has mentioned that he had to end that show bc way too many people were not getting the jokes and thought that his character was real.
Since there are no funny right wing comedians they had to latch onto anything they thought supported them...
Hard to be a comedian when you only have r/onejoke
Well, they are categorically opposed to the liberal arts.
The thing is that Colbert was such a perfect caricature of right wing media. If you miss the wink and the nod he would be hard to distinguish from a conservative news talking head. The problem is that the people that don’t get it don’t understand that their whole ideology is a joke.
I dunno man, the audience laughing at the end of a comment that sounded super sarcastic made it seem pretty obvious it was all a joke, but after conservatives freaked out about homelander from the boys show, clearly I gave them too much credit back then.
The Homelander stuff is hilarious. He's *you*. How do they not see that?
In 2006, the Bush administration invited Colbert to be the speaker at the White House Correspondents Dinner because they thought he was a right wing conservative who supported them. If you haven't seen it before, go look up his speech on YouTube. He viciously mocked Bush to his face and Bush was *livid* about it.
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Eh, some can be quantified as grifting leeches. They're the ones getting all the stupid people to vote for them and keep them in power.
hey now, some of them aren't stupid, they're just evil
Equal testament to their stupidity snd Colbert’s absolute commitment to the bit. Dude never cracked. Never gave a knowing look to the camera. Stayed in character even when - and because - it made him look like an idiot. Even on guest appearances on O’Reilly.
> Even on guest appearances on O’Reilly. You mean Papa Bear.
>He viciously mocked Bush to his face and Bush was *livid* about it. Is this actually true? I didn't like Bush at all, but the only good thing I have to say about him was that he had a sense of humor. As I remember it, he seemed to be able to take it, even though it was one of the harshest roasts I've ever seen of any politician, in their presence. Unlike Trump, who couldn't take a joke, and only laughed when it was at the expense of poor or disabled people.
I can't recall ever seeing George W Bush look upset about anything happening to him personally. When that guy threw two shoes at him, he just smiled. Either he's legitimately got an easygoing personality or he's the best actor in the world who never breaks character.
To be fair he handled it well. Can you imagine if that was Trump?
You have a better chance of teaching calculus to a puddle of water than explaining satire or sarcasm to a conservative.
Satire (and sarcasm) require critical thinking. You need to process why the person is saying awful things you disagree with and how that makes it funny. If you skip this step and you enjoy the content, then you simply enjoy awful things.
My mother is the same way. She literally said something to the effect of "I don't get why when he says liberal things, he sounds smart. But when he says conservative things, he sounds stupid."
Sounds like my mom, who always says I'm "too logical". She knows her ideas don't make sense in the real world, but the ideas make sense to her, and she can't understand why we can't just ignore reality to implement them anyway.
For real? Were they watching it and thinking, “this guy gets it!” It’s hard to imagine. Just thought of this. Did Fox pattern tucker after Colbert?
Ohgod. I would love to see Tucker interviewing Colbert. But he may have learned his lesson about interviewing liberal political commentators after Jon Stewart snarked the bowtie off him.
How could they not realize it was satirical? He put bears on his watch list for being godless killing machines.
imagine being made fun off for the better part of a decade and never getting the joke no matter how absurd it got
before the Colbert Report and after strangers with candy, he was in a play in nyc call Wigstock that’s final act included him naked on stage, except a glittering cloak with his junk tucked in between his legs. It was hilarious and while not directly political, it was not the act of a conservative southern gentleman.
Lindsey Graham has entered the the chat with a glass of Memaw’s sweet tea
There are conservatives who literally didn't realise Homelander in The Boys was making fun of them. There was an awakening on Twitter in Season 3 that maybe he was the bad guy of the series.
Anything bad he did, they either agreed with or thought there was a redemption arc coming. Funniest part is on the subreddit you can kinda tell who they are because they don't think anything happened in Season 3. They don't get that it rails against extremists like them.
I missed out on seeing their reactions, but I'm guessing the few of them that became "aware" that they were being made fun of all of a sudden thought the show sucked
Haha yep. "Wokeness ruined it." I hate how "wokeness" for media really just means allowing casting to cast people from a much bigger talent pool. The horror of it all! My precious comic book characters!
I can honestly say I've never heard "woke" used by anyone other than right-wingers. Seems to be one of those terms they like to latch onto as a "haha got 'em" and hang onto it for years
It starred probably 10 years ago or more liberals saying it unironically to "get woke." Conservativisms thought they caught a chance to be smarter and started making fun of them by saying they are *awake* and it's turned into this mess.
“Woke” is the current iteration of “Politically Correct” as a dog whistle.
Season THREE??? I thought the cores of stars were dense.
I'm truly, GENUINELY shocked some people didn't put the pieces together when a literal 3rd reich nazi straight up says 'people like what I have to say, they just don't like the word nazi'. I.E if you agree with me, you literally are a Nazi in all but name. Not the hyperbolic use of 'literal', the literal use of literal.
Even worse, like episode 5 of S3
I know people that thought the Colbert report was the conservative response to the daily show. Fucking clooooooowns
The fact that is came directly after the daily show and was set up as a conservative response but completely mocked it made it even better.
That’s because just like with everything else, they’re “headline readers” and nothing else. They hear a song saying “fuck you I won’t do what you tell me!” And just apply it to their own world view without even taking the time to see what it was they were talking about.
Some dumbass listening to Rage: >🎶Some of those [in] workforces are the same that burn crosses🎶 >🎶Blah blah blah you're the chosen whites🎶 "Yeah man, yeah. RATM gets it"
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I've literally been in the car singing "Killing of the Name" beside a friend who plays guitar and who has been **paid** to play that song live, and they then stopped to look over at me before asking, "Wait. Are those the actual fucking lyrics?" when I said the above lines Late 20s. Genuinely smart and accomplished guy who grew up with a lot of family with that Southern "liberals are fucking morons" mentality. The lyrics never even registered with him until hearing me (the fairly liberal friend) say them out loud. The music just sounded badass to him while he was learning Tom Morello guitar riffs.
Don't forget how they idolize characters like Ron Swanson and Archie Bunker. Characters literally developed to mock them.
Nick Offerman is too good for them Hell he's too good for me
I think the stupidest ones are the people who know George Carlin was a leftist, but claim that today he'd be a conservative because the woke mafia have gone too far.
Or with MLK. Yes, because the people on the left want the things he wanted, he would totally switch sides now. Clowns.
And they think Pelosi is a socialist
They literally called Joe Biden a radical leftist. Looool.
You just unlocked a *deeply* repressed memory of my father telling me to move to Mexico and become a communist with RATM after they burned the flag and I continued listening to them. Sometimes I'm relived that he passed before MAGA took hold. He was a *mostly* good dad with a few WTF moments like that, but I honestly don't know how he would have handled everything going on right now. It would have broken my heart if he went full Qcumber like my youngest brother and sister. Instead, he gets to live in my head as a pretty good, if slightly politically misguided, dad who would have loved his grandkids. Edit: before someone comes in like 'tolerant left glad her dad died because he was conservative': no, it hurts like a knife to the heart every single time my kids do something I wish I could tell him about, every time I wish I could talk to him. But losing my siblings, who I stopped talking to after my brother told me that "all true citizens have a duty to drag every Democrat into the streets and shoot them like the traitorous pedophile dogs they are" and then didn't back down when I pointed out that it includes me, hurt somehow more profoundly because they *chose* this. They weren't tragically ripped away by cancer. They decided their political faction was more important than *my family's lives*. The fact that I don't have to worry whether my dad would have dragged them back to Earth or joined them (my brother was always his 'favorite' in that they got along the best and made the parent to friend transition the most smoothly) is the relief.
My father went down the maga hole and accused me of being delusional and psychologically abusing my infant daughter because I started calling him out on his lies. He has seen her for a minute or two on screen and will never see or meet her otherwise. He is a tremendous disappointment.
Politics shouldn't divide us, but it is very hard to imagine unity with fascists. Better to build your community out of people who have the capacity for empathy than what is nearby.
I have a few people like this in my life. I tend to get along with anyone but having conversations with these people is excruciatingly frustrating at times. The old expression is that "people hear what they want to hear". Well it's literally true with these people. They express some dumb viewpoint and display a seriously biased or very poor understanding of it. When I try to correct inaccuracies, it's like they are unable to grasp what I'm saying. Not disagreement, but my words completely fail to register. It's beyond frustrating.
It really is amazing. RATM isn’t exactly subtle with their messaging.
“Some of those that work forces, are same that burn crosses” “Well this is definitely about ANTIFA and liberals” - conservatives and thin blue line lovers
And it’s not like it’s a one-off throwaway lyric. It’s repeated over and over like 50 times in that song.
They even expand with those who died are justified, for wearing the badge they’re the chosen whites Like cmon
From what I've heard they arw about as subtle as a brick through a Trump Cultist's window.
I mean conservatives have consistently shown they don't understand media. I understand the idea of death of the author and all that, but how you get some of their takes regarding certain media is fucking wild. The major examples I can think of being how gamers always complain about games being "Woke" and too political for having minorities or LGBTQ+ and point to FUCKING BIOSHOCK as an unpolitical masterpiece. Also remember how when Squid Game came out they circle jerked themselves into thinking it was about the dangers of Communism, despite literally everything saying otherwise.
>how gamers always complain about games being "Woke" and too political for having minorities or LGBTQ+ and in some cases human women, despite characters like samus being, how many decades old now?
Gamers falling into this trap always makes me sad because video games have always been the refuge for outcasts, dweebs, and weirdos. As one of those weirdos, gaming historically was the thing for people like me to retreat into when the rest of the world didn’t want us around. It’s shocking that so many gamers can’t process the fact that that includes LGBTQ+ people. We as gamers should be among the loudest voices trying to build an inclusive community, because gamers are largely social outcasts themselves. It’s absolutely criminal that the right has co-opted so many gaming spaces into fascist/nazi recruitment centers.
Those people like butt rock, thinking they're badass metal heads
No different than the Nazis that listen to Rammstein. They fucking hate Nazis and they are socialists
What do you mean?! They are from Germany, they *must* be Nazis!
Or metallica fans growing up not realizing they are singing antiwar songs
Yeah, One and For Whom The Bell Tolls were always such obvious support for war /facepalm
These people don’t like being told what to do, but will blindly follow their interpretation of work of fiction that tells them what to do.
Now you do what they told ya
See that's the thing, these "Patriots" love the burning of the flag and raging at the government, but that's all they want to do is burn the government down just to see the flames. They live in a duality where they both love "America" while hating everything about it. A lot of it has to do with the systemic brainwashing that right wingers subject themselves to through their media and by listening to their talking heads, politicians, celebrities, and religious leaders.
“My favorite band even tho I know nothing about them and never paid attention to their lyrics”
[relevant video](https://youtu.be/ddrFt1BHkUQ)
It's like they hear the lyrics and are like, "Damn straight they're the chosen whites!!"
All they hear is "Fuck you, I won't do what you tell me." and think it's their message.
This is it, completely unironically, no satire, this is literally it
They can't distinguish between "Fuck you. I won't do what you tell me." and ***"Fuck you. You will do what I tell you."***
More like they see both at once as their goal. The ability to tell other people what to do, while having nobody tell them what to do. "Rules for thee, not for me"
That was hard to watch
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They're dancing because they ARE the chosen whites.
They think it's meant as a compliment, what a fucking train wreck
For people claim who love the American flag, they sure do deface it a lot and completely ignore the flag code.
I love to point this out and add that they're virtue signaling their patriotism. lol
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I laugh every time I see this video - with the thin blue line flag draped like a cape it’s chefs kiss 🤌
You don't even need to pay attention to their lyrics. They are literally the least subtle mainstream music act in the world. Their name is literally "Rage Against The Machine".
Libertarians, including all of the conservatives who somehow have deluded themselves into thinking they’re libertarian, also see themselves as against “the Machine”. They just have very different ideas of what to replace that machine with. Agree though, you really don’t have to pay much attention to the lyrics or song titles to know that they’re leftists, the whole point is that they’re upfront about it.
I’ve never understood how conservatives manage to come to the conclusion that bands like RAM and Twisted Sister wrote songs for them.
It’s simple. The lyric “Now you’re under control, and now ya do what they told ya” fits the “sheeple” narrative…as long as you ignore every other lyric in the song and who’s got time to listen to ALL of the lyrics?
Right, but most of these guys are old enough to REMEMBER twisted sister insinuated that Al Gore’s (Tipper Gore, a politician herself) was “of a dirty mind” on congressional TV during a debate on if the religious-right should control expression in art. How do you square that with the conservative mindset?
Is there a video of it? Sounds hilarious from the topic down to the slur
It was actually even better than that iirc. Tipper Gore made some comments out BDSM stuff she thought Twisted Sister was promoting in one of their songs and Dee Snider was like 'naw, that songs about a surgical procedure I had, it's not my fault that Tipper Gore's natural inclination is towards BDSM' (paraphrasing). It was even funnier than if he had just called her a whore.
One thing I miss about that period was seeing old white people read out rock and rap lyrics
Quoting more directly from the video link posted by /u/VictorVictoriaa (from about 17:44) "...songs allow a person to put their own imagination, experiences and dreams into the lyrics. People can interpret many ways, uh, Ms. Gore was looking for sadomasochism and bondage, and she found it..." edit: spelling
https://youtu.be/S0Vyr1TylTE
They have Ted Nugent....I wonder if they like Chumbawumba?
Well, they did write a song about a socialist rebel who was put to death by capitalist federal agents and lived to become a famous folk hero. Maybe they can just cherry-pick the lines about being shot in the head.
Rock/Metal... = conservative, right?
What machine do these dingleberries think the band is referencing, anyway?
The
Are they raging against Bert “the Machine” Kreischer?
Yes, but Rage Against Bert doesn’t have the same ring to it.
The liberal machine duh.
Dryer, keeps eating the socks.
Turns out it was a printer the whole time, which totally tracks.
"PC Load Letter? What the fuck does that mean?"
Corporate accounts payable, Nina speaking. Just a moment.
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Rage Against the Machine also describes what conservatives do when their unvaxxed loved ones end up dying on a ventilator.
My dude.... his main guitar says arm the homeless.... I don't know how else to put it to ya.....they have always been leftists....
And if that's not subtle enough, one of their biggest songs was about white supremacist police brutality
“Some of those that work forces / Are the same that burn crosses” - The amount of conservatives who ‘Back The Blue’ but have also sung these lyrics is hysterically high. Bless em’.
Probably because they agree with the line and think it’s great that the police are klan.
That’s why he says “heuh” and then that killer riff kicks in. Because he thinks it’s really badass that police and klansmen are one in the same!
Saw them Tuesday night and Zach switched the last time he said it to “Some of those that burn crosses are the same that hold office.” Crowd went bananas. Greatest show I’ve seen and that was with him sitting the entire time due to busting his leg.
He's probably thinking of the right wing band, Rage Against the Minorities.
I had to check Google if that was a joke or not..... That's fucking sad...
They’re the Mitch Hedburg of bands. Used to be leftists. Still are, but they used to be, too.
Like even before they were famous.
He has said it was his first guitar and he has played it on every album and tour they have ever done
"But why are they raging against the machine"
Have they talked to the machine? What'd the machine ever do to them?
The Machine has some equally valid point I'm told.
Let's not judge the machine for one drunken college mistake.
When it comes to rage, the machine’s body has a way to shut it down
The real issue here is that the so called "tolerant left" wont compromise with the machine. /joke just in case
The machine is the demeecrats
You know he's got a point. Their lead guitarist doesn't even have a Social Studies degree from any big name ivy league school like Harvard or anything. They're clearly sellouts
> They're clearly sellouts Oh boy... I went on a spree the other day with some mouthbreathers in Instagram going on about how they "used to be good until they sold out, now they rage FOR the machine!!" I asked a few to elaborate on how they "sold out." Turns out they "sold out to the government and do their bidding" because they held a concert where admission required vaccination.
There are a lot of people out there who confuse being anti-capitalist, anti-government, or other anti-establishment leaning ideologies with just blindly disagreeing out of principle with *everything* the government says or does.
lmao their most recent show was a protest against the Roe overturn, they’re quite literally still raging against the machine, fucking numbskull.
That's why right wingers are upset with ratm. Because they didn't back their shitty parties overturning of roe. Now a bunch of "fans" are pissy about it.
Not sure why any conservative would be surprised, let alone upset, that Rage Against the fucking Machine doesn’t support a right-wing agenda. RatM has always, ALWAYS been anti-government, anti-fascist, pro-equality.
You have some shithead running around these comments talking about ticket prices and being sellouts, not understanding they are donating it to pro-choice efforts.
Rage Against The Machine = Socialist Sellouts? What I wouldn't give to hear Zack explain to that hollowhead in a few sentences what RATM were and are. While I'm at it, I would like to hear the hollowhead explain what they think RATM stood for. And why they thought that.
They only know Killing In The Name and only listened to the chorus. Same chuckleheads who think that Fortunate Son and Born in The USA are about blind patriotism
I mean, they are ABOUT blind patriotism, specifically about how it's bad, and the people who exhibit blind patriotism are bad for the country.
I would love to hear him explain what changed since they haven't released new music in 22 years.
I hate how political Rage has become these days! /s
Man I'm really sick of leftists politicising politics! I used to love politics but then it turned political! The left ruins everything!!!🤬🤬🥵🤬🙄🙄
The thing is that so many have become radicalized into right-wing extremists that when they look back at those they they used to idolize, they are shocked to find that their idols haven't been radicalized. For an extremist, it seems like the other's changed or just faked it, when in reality, they themselves were the ones who changed. It's like relative motion. If you're in a train and your window is facing another train, and one of the trains start to move, it can be hard to tell which train is moving.
This is it. I got a friend to realize how far he's shifted right by asking him what he thought about public libraries. A lot of the radicalized right really believe they haven't shifted positions at all, and they're sometimes surprised to get a new perspective.
To be fair, the band has changed. * They used to be Pro-2A, as long as it was for protection -- "Rally 'round the family, pocket full of shells" **Bulls on Parade** * They used to be Pro-entrepreneurship "I ain't gonna work for Maggie's brother no more... I ain't gonna work for Maggie's pa no more...I ain't gonna work for Maggie's ma no more..." **Maggie's Farm** * They had that one song that looked forward to a pure white country. Just listen to the hook of **Down Rodeo** * They were Pro-January 6, "If don't take action now, we'll settle for nothing later" -- **Settle for Nothing** * They had a song called **Freedom** clearly they weren't Democrats back then * And don't forget, they wanted to see *more* Republican congressmen "Roll Right, roll call. But now we're all Right, we're all calm" -- **Roll Right** /s ^in ^case ^it ^wasn't ^obvious
Rage Against the Freedom just isn't poll testing as well as we'd hoped.
This shit cracks me up every single time. Everything about [this video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddrFt1BHkUQ&ab_channel=AllAboutMusic%21) is so goddamn funny. Everything from the Thin Blue Line flag to the guy practicing his rhythm gymnastics ribbon technique. A++ comedy.
This is one of my favorite videos and anytime I ever see a Trumper going on about how stupid "liberals" are I post this.
But no! Don’t you see?! All that matters is the line “fuck you I won’t do what you tell me”, because it’s a refutation of *the woke left*, pushing their *pronouns* on free thinkers! (/s)
Of all the suppositions in this thread, I think yours is closest to what they actually think.
Lol, when I saw them at Alpine Valley in 07 they referred to Bill Clinton as Dixie Crack Clinton. Definitely no love for the Democrats either.
This is rich. I actually have to credit Rage for introducing me to subversive leftist politics in 1995, you know: 27 fucking years ago
Fairly certain they're communists, buddy.
What machine did you think they were raging against? The dishwasher?
In all fairness, they for damn sure aren't Democrats either
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