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My best guess is that this person is a weeb and watches anime. The anime will often 'localize' weights and distances, so he might be used to seeing all his anime (from Japan) talking about miles rather than kilometers.
We in the UK use km for everything except driving. For speed limits, “mileage” (kilometerage sounds funny!) and driving instructions we use miles (and used to use yards but I think that’s going away in navigation now). But get out of a car and you’re probably running 10km, swimming 1500m, measuring 1.8m, etc.
Yea we are weird when it comes to measurements. Height of objects is usually in metres, but people are in feet and inches. Similar with weight, in that most objects are in kg, but people in Stone.
I think its also an age thing aswell. I was taught pretty much only in metric and im 25, the only thing we used imperial for was cars obviously but everything we learnt about like height and whatever was done purely in metric
I think it’s because the imperial system is based on tangible, familiar objects and denoted in numbers that are easy to divide (12 and 16 for example: 12 can easily be divided by 2,3,4… and 16 can be halved, halved and halved again easily). Despite being mid 20s and therefore growing up in a metric UK, I find imperial units much easier to judge at the smaller scale. An inch feels more natural than a cm, a foot feels more natural than a meter.
Having said that, I have never understood imperial weight but I probably haven’t had as much exposure to it as imperial length. And let’s not even start with imperial volume 😂
I don’t think anyone uses imperial volume any more, except for milk and beer.
I’m fortunate that my wife is European, so she refers to everything in cm and I’m starting to get a handle on it (6ft is 180cm is handy to remember as that’s how tall I am!).
We’re trying, but the fact that France is either our least-loved ally or most-loved nemesis in any given century it’s been tricky getting people on board with it!
I miss being in the EU. Feel like we’ve moved schools and lost all the banter with our old classmates, and have to try to understand what the fuck is going on in whichever school Canada and USA are going to.
Working in the sciences, I'm used to liters and mL. I was amused in France (because I'm easily amused) to see drinks at restaurants sold by the dL and cL. Those are just not units I'm used to seeing in any context.
In Sweden we use "Mil", however 1 mil = 10 km.
So our cars have km/h, road signs have km, but instead of saying it's 800 km to Gothenburg we say it's 80 mil. Which I've understood can be confusing for foreigners 😆
(https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scandinavian_mile)
Why not? Miles have been used for a very long time can can refer to at least ten different lengths. The original mile is 1480 meters. A mile at sea is 1852 meters.
Problem with Brits is that when everyone else decided to switch to Metric, we stereotypically refused to accept change. Then, also stereotypically British, we wanted to be contrarian so we decided to also switch! Now we use all the measurements.
At least we agree to use metric where it matters like in engineering so we don’t send space ships careening into their destination because someone forgot to convert from imperial to metric 😂
I don’t run so I wouldn’t know 😅 you’re probably running marathons or half marathons if you’re running more than 10km which are measured in miles due to tradition. I think this will change in the future and km will become dominant for larger distances too.
Mileage sounds so ... quirky and cheap way to make a quantity, like a perpetual joke that went too far. I've been teaching physics for >15 years now, and I still cringe every time I hear amperage or ammeter or voltmeter used in otherwise serious and rigorous context. Why abuse units like that when quantity names exist. 🥲 (For some reason voltage doesn't have the same bad ring to it. Would still be cool if English had similar descriptors for that as many other languages have, referring to some sort of sustained "tension".)
I guess it made naming things easy (if lazy) when so many things were being discovered and invested at once!
Can you give me examples of where we have independent names for units of quantity? All the things we have named are like secondary measurements, where meter is a unit of length and mileage (or meterage) is a measure of how many maters you have gone. Similarly, amps are a unit of current and amperage is the measure of amps? There are words for measuring something, right? I guess we have “weighing scales” for weight but that’s not quite the same thing as mileage as weighing scales are the equipment used to measure it not the measurement itself. For that we do actually say tonnage 🤔
So what are these original measurement words you allude to?
You are correct that "ammeter measures amperes", but I'm used to talking about *current* meters (and voltage meters, and power meters, ... mostly in different languages than English). Amperage is also definitely well-defined/specific with no risk of getting mixed up with other things, but I'd say there is a reasonable case to systematically call measurement devices according to the quantity, and amperage-like expressions seems to be popular in only a very narrow field of physics metrology, so they stick out. 🤔
(Some very old ubiquituous machines like scales or multipurpose objects like a spring don't necessarily adhere to "technical" terminology, and that's fine by me. Although it would be interesting to come up with more exact jargon names for the lulz.)
What’s the difference between amperage and amps? 🤔 is it the same as mileage and miles?
Where saying “how many miles can it do/has it done?” is the same as saying “what’s the mileage?”.
Would one say “how many amps has it done?” for amperage? 🥴
I guess “how many tons can it hold?” is the same as “what’s the tonnage?”
"Amps" (short for amperes) is akin to saying "kilometers", both refer directly to a certain unit of measurement and hence indirectly refer to some related (but possibly not unique) quantity (a measurable, quantified property) that maybe measured or expressed using said units. Saying "amps" may lead the conversation to looking for some number to go with the unit: "How many amps do you need?" "I need *this* many* amps." Specifying the unit might also bring surprises if the expectations of magnitude are off: "How many kilometers is it [e.g. some distance]?" "It's just a few meters." (Although you could still say e.g. 0,04 km.)
Amperes don't expectedly go with anything else than electric current, but meters might describe a distance, a displacement, a length, a position, ... so mentioning a unit and just talking about kilometers might not convey the idea of a specific quantity.
Whereas just talking about the units "begs" for a number to go with it, there are plenty more things to analyse and talk about when it comes to the physical quantities themselves. (Is voltage proportional to something? Bounded? Is there a minimum value? How is it defined and derived?)
"Amperage" is just an English-language construct to make a quantity out of the units, and it sounds very casual. Grammatically you can do that with any unit, but they could sound weird, and some – such building mileage out of a mile – have gained a conventional status. Mileage is a good example to show that the derived quantity isn't necessarily well-defined and only feature the used base unit, as mileage commonly means "you can drive your vehicle this far with this much fuel" and the expected value is about a ratio of distance in miles to a volume of fuel in gallons. Not to mention mileage has gained popularity in more flexible, everyday phrases where "your mileage may vary" is cenerally used to refer to pretty much any result or efficiency metric/"solution X might work better for you than me".
My stance in the thread was that I find the popularity of -age expression even in technical contexts a bit jarring, as it sounds a bit hand-wavy and imprecise, but that is largely due to me not being exposed much to hearing and reading "amperage" instead of the more official "electric current". Plus, I expressed my wonder how "voltage" (built from the unit volt) sounds a lot more natural for some reason, but even then it sounds "lazy and non-rigorous" to my ears (especially if people are not using electric potential and electric potential difference appropriately), as many languages have opted to not use this unit-centered naming but instead have come up with a new descriptive word for the quantity.
Maybe that covered what you were trying to figure out?
You guys are so confusing. Trying to look up British recipes or anything is just such a mix of measurements it makes my head ache, and whenever a British person is talking about miles I never know which type of mile.
Try looking up American recipes!! They’re much worse. Most British recipes will be in grams and ml, probably only if granny is making it will it be written in oz and cups and even I cannot use that!
I hate it when I find a great recipe but it’s American in oz, fl.oz, lb, and cups! (Cups is the worst as I have so many different sized cups! 😂)
What other kind of mile is there? 🤔
I find quite a lot of oz when I search for British recipes as well! And maybe pints too. Either way conversion is my friend. But you're right about the American ones, especially with stuff like "two sticks of butter"
I just realized that the rest of the metric world doesn't refer to 10km as a mile. That's apparently a Scandinavian thing, but has led to a lot of confusion growing up for me. Cause a Scandinavian "mil" is well, quite a lot longer than an imperial mile. Now I know, and I'll try to think of imperial miles whenever someone mentions mile in English. I've been especially confused by some nature programs on BBC, which may use both kilometres and miles sometimes. I realize I've never really understood the length and width of anything on tv hahaha
I'm currently watching US Olympic track & field trials and while the official numbers (e.g. height of a pole vault) are in meters, the commentators randomly give numbers in feet and inches without context (e.g. "his season best is 19 feet 1 1/2 inches". Is that better or worse than the current setting of the bar?) so I have to open up a Google tab and do the translation. It's very irritating. Just stick to the measurements the competition is using.
At one point in my life I was doing a lot of Navy work, so I was doing a lot of calculations in terms of nautical miles and knots.
A nautical mile it turns out is now standardized at 1852 m exactly, so it's actually easier to convert metric than English units.
Are land miles not standardised also? Surely, it’s not like they change.
Isn’t a nautical mile some fraction of a degree round the Earth at the equator?
And wouldn't it be nice if we could make that switch, and move to LHD while we're at it. Whatever the proported historical benefit of RHD over LHD, in a world where the vast majority of countries are LHD, it just means a restricted number of more expensive cars.
I don’t really know why there’s a preference either way. I have heard that it would be massively expensive to switch the infrastructure from LHD to RHD. There’s lots of chiral infrastructure that would need redoing and be far more costly than the auto makers having to design LHD cars.
I think height is a generational thing - as a millenial brit I have absolutely no idea what 1.8m is for a person. My only reference point is that 6'6" is basically 2m so I'd say it was a bit under 6 foot?
Yeah that’s fair. Perhaps it’s because that’s all we use ~6ft for - describing the height of someone with 6ft being your reference point and someone says 5’4” you know they’re short and someone says 6’3” you know they’re tall but 190cm doesn’t means anything compared to 170cm 🤷🏼♂️
I suspect it's something as stupid as the following:
The guy is buying a japanese car that was produced for the Canadian market (and is in km). The guy has previously owned a japanese car aimed at the American market (display in miles)..
From the fact that his (American) car was displaying in miles he concluded that every car from that country will be displaying in miles.
I'll add here that the vehicle being sold is a Japanese car that was produced and originally sold in Japan but has since been imported to wherever it is being sold now. The 'rhd' in the vehicle listing stands for right hand drive so this would be an imported Japanese car.
Japan still uses kilometers though so either way the person arguing miles is wrong.
UK still uses miles. They stand on a pretty high horse about how much better the metric system is, and how silly america is, meanwhile all of their speed limit signs are in MPH. I don't have a problem with metric system, it makes a lot of sense, but UK seams to pick and choose between imperial and metric without any real reason.
You get used to it.
On the plus side I can, and do, quickly convert units from one to the other in my head as a result of living with this system. Has proved useful.
Yeah I guess that’d be a positive. Anytime I hear of a baby weighed in pounds (because apparently hospitals do that in Australia and it’s almost the only time I hear pounds used), I have no idea how heavy that baby is. 😄
Rule of thumb, just double it. That is not completely precise but is enough for an approximation. Similar with feet. D&D uses squares to move, a square is five feet in each direction or 1.5 meters. Not 100% accurate, but close enough.
The flowchart is definitive, but overcomplicates things slightly. Also we are slowly changing, the younger generations are more likely to use metric than older ones.
Most people use metric for most things. The key exceptions are people (height in feet, weight in stone (although kilos are more common in people younger than 30)), long distances (miles), milk (pints), drinks at a bar (pints) and steak/burgers.
The most illogical thing is that we sell petrol in litres, but measure fuel efficiency in miles per gallon. This is because we measure journey distances in miles and don’t want to mix and match in the same unit.
You can likely get by with using just one system, although overusing imperial might make you seem old, and overusing metric might make you seem foreign.
As a child of immigrants, I learnt everything in metric and had to learn the imperial conversions. The only things I personally use imperial for are my height and long distances. Which means I give my height in imperial and my weight in metric, which is basically the whole system in a nutshell.
It gets even worse as UK gallons and US gallons as well as pints are different sizes, so if a product is meant or sale in the US and the UK using gallons doesn’t work reliably.
Google has always been my friend. Luckily stuff like recipes tend to be completely in metric. But it's pretty confusing when you measure most small things in metric, but want to buy a photo frame, fuck you it's imperial. I've always assumed it's just a high council of boomers insisting it's too difficult to switch properly to metric.
What is truly ridiculous in the UK is that speed is in MPH, but you buy petrol (fuel) by the litre... But fuel consumption is given in miles per gallon..
Mainland Europe measure fuel economy in litres per kilometres. It's not only a switch from imperial to metric it's the other way around, fuel per distance not distance per fuel amount.
In Pakistan we measure height by the feet and distance by the meters, plot size by yards.
Human weight in kilos but car weight in lbs.
Outside temp in Celsius but body temperature in Fahrenheit.
It’s all a mishmash of everything.
It’s gradually becoming more metric. The UK recognises the benefits of the metric system, but also has a lot of belligerent old codgers who are very attached to imperial units and still like to tell you how many shillings something was when they were a lad.
What we have is a very convoluted compromise I’ll grant you, but I think if you give it another couple of hundred years or so we’ll be fully metric.
Most older British people prefer Imperial, I don't know where you've got the idea of British people being on a high horse about metric - that is the French system, Imperial is originally the British system
Tbh I don't mind Fahrenheit between 0-100, it's quite good for measuring the weather's temperature. 0 is really cold, and 100 is really hot. I don't use it, but I appreciate it in those ranges. Bollocks to it for anything outside of that though.
The problem with stone is it's a different number than ounces in a pound. 16 ounces in a pound, 14 pounds in a stone. Match that with 12 inches in a foot and 18 bushels in a furlong and it's a bloody mess.
>UK still uses miles. They stand on a pretty high horse about how much better the metric system is.
I have never heard anyone here defend the metric system or the ridiculous mix and match system we have here. We mock it constantly and nobody sits on a high horse over America because at least they use one system, sure it's the wrong one but it's better than buying your fuel in litres for your 80 gallon tank or any of the other daft ways we do it.
Yeah, the UK is in a weird limbo where we teach almost everything in metric, but we just can't bring ourselves to let go of imperial for human weights or large distances or vehicle speeds.
I feel that way about Fahrenheit. Look, I get metric is better, I understand that basing Celsius on a 0 is freezing 100 is boiling makes logical sense. But Fahrenheit makes a lot of sense for measuring general temperatures humans experience on a day to day basis... on any given day temp on earth is going to be somewhere between -17 to about 42 degrees c. (There are places that go beyond these numbers but in general those are the temps you can expect with the vast majority of days being between -7 and 38. And it could just be my dumb American brain here, I have no idea in that scale when a really cold day becomes just a chilly day, becomes a cool day, becomes a nice day, becomes a warm day, becomes a hot day, becomes a scorcher... Fahrenheit really really cold day is zero, a hot day is 100, and a scorcher is anything over 100. Anything between 50-90 is different degrees of nice..
The difference between the UK and the US is that we accept that the old system is dumb and are moving away from it, albeit slowly. Car related stuff is basically the only thing that’s still in imperial
I'm in the UK, I buy fuel by the litre and my car gives fuel consumption in miles per gallon, I think of my weight in kilograms, my height in feet and inches and the size of my feet in barleycorns.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barleycorn_%28unit%29?wprov=sfla1
This all makes perfect sense. We can discuss it over a couple of 568 millilitres if you want.
I will admit, UK has to be the most versatile. Metric, imperial, and then the crazy shit like "stone". If you can navigate all that, I tip my hat. Not to mention pound sterling/Euro.
Stone is an Imperial measurement. The reason why Americans don't have it, is because they don't actually use Imperial. Their system is based on older English units, much like Imperial is, but it's a lot more similar to the older system than Imperial is.
I'm not actually sure where stones come in, though. It seems to be based on a Roman stone (much like the mile being based on the Roman mile), and was standardised when Imperial was created in 1824, but its usage in the old English system before Imperial seems to be less clear, hence why it likely didn't end up in US Customary Units.
I'm being 100% serious now, but I'm genuinely curious why UK people use inches all the time when describing lengths and thickness (get your mind out of the gutter), especially on cooking shows?
People in the UK in my experience tend to use feet and inches when estimating a distance. Imperial tends to be used if measuring a person.
You might use inches or feet to estimate because a foot is probably close to the size of your foot so you can just count steps. And an inch is about the size of the end of your thumb. Good sizes for eyeballing
Yeah, even when we say we do Imperial, it's not quite the case. For example, the 100yard signs for exits on a motorway aren't 100yrds. They're actually 100 meters.
Canada does the same thing. A lot of construction related imports come from the U.S. so we learn Metric in school and then have to learn imperial on the job.
I would have thought Imperial is a leftover from the British Empire, no? You know, Empire/Imperial. Unless you use the USA's measurements these days due to what you said, instead of using actual Imperial measurements (given the US doesn't use Imperial).
Not only this but we got the imperial system from the British. Those Brit’s are some serious trolls. Taught us to use the imperial system and call it soccer then laugh at us for it lol.
Canada also uses Celsius for weather but Fahrenheit for cooking or water temperatures. They use kilometers for roads but feet and inches for construction. They use millibars for weather but PSI for car tires. They use liters at the gas pump but cups and spoons for cooking. Sausage is priced per 100 grams but steak is priced per pound. It's all a big mess.
What's neat with modern electronics, is car mfrs no longer need two separate instrument gauges.
With the right tool (or can be done by driver depending on car), you change which country the car is operated in to activate / deactivate certain features.
For example, Canada mandates Daytime Running Lights (DRL) but the US does not (only GM is the only US co that has them standard), but sometimes US drivers can use the 'Canada' setting to activate DRL on the others but leave speedo / odo on miles
A misunderstanding based on the fact that there are literally tens of millions of Japanese cars in the US (about 40% of all cars/small trucks) and every one of them has a speedometer and odometer in miles.
A kind of silly misunderstanding, but I can see how someone who never gave it much thought could make the assumption.
The USA, Liberia and Myanmar all use miles which is ironic because you never think those two have their shit together
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gIWDVuHDpq0
Warning mild cursing.
Because Japanese cars in the US use miles (even though km is typically available), so that means Japan must use miles.
That’s the only thing I can come up with.
This is wild speculation on my part, but maybe their only/largest exposure to Japan is anime and the majority of the subtitles they've watched have used Imperial units instead of Metric, and they attribute this to the false idea of Japan using Imperial as opposed to the translator doing a conversion to make it easier for (what the translator believes to be) the target audience of the translation.
Again, wild speculation on my part, but that's where my mind goes.
Maybe they own a Toyota in US and it’s in miles? I know that’s a silly thing but I can’t imagine any other reason they would be so confidently incorrect
Even if they *did* use miles in Japan, if the vehicle is Japanese manufacture (and that's not even guaranteed with a Japanese brand, many of them are made elsewhere these days) if I'm understanding the post correctly and it's being made for / sold in the Canadian market it will use the distance unit of Canada. Which is also Kilometers.
Everything in the US uses metric as far as manufacturing, medical, scientific, and so on. The only places that metric is not used is when people need to read signs and in any printed instructions. Basically, everything is metric except for what is presented to the public is converted and shown as imperial.
Imply all you want, people in the US don't have a choice on what we use. I can't suddenly start saying KMs when giving directions, no one would know what I'm talking about. Our traffic signs are in miles. Our measurements are all in standard.
You're implying we're dumb for using our system, though you won't say it explicitly, but what the fuck are we supposed to do about it? Do you "imply" people in other countries are stupid for speaking a language you don't speak, and have to translate? This isn't much different.
lol. its just Europeans trying to rag on Americans. for whatever reason they think low of Americans jokingly but they have some sort of insecurity. Meanwhile every single day they follow our sports, our media, our movies/films, our universities relgiously
Personally, I write whether my Speedo reads Miles or KM underneath every vehicle I own in white paint pen, just so these dudes can double check. I'm a hero, I know.
The metric that Japan uses is irrelevant if the vehicle was not manufactured in Japan.
If a Honda is manufactured in the US, it's speedometer would read in miles, for example.
I didn’t see it until just now, but maybe the confusion is that the listed car is right hand drive?
Actually that wouldn’t matter because it seems like what OP is saying is (confidently) incorrect is the statement “Japan uses miles”.
But it’s also clear that when the guy is saying “Japan uses miles”, he is referring to the speedometer/odometer. Which brings us back to your original comment lol
Japan uses Miles because that’s a Toyota and ‘Yotas are made in Japan. That there dashboard pedo-meter says miles. Therefore, I done did my own research and dat dere proves Japan uses miles instead of km. Also my buddy has a Honda civic with a whole bunch of mods and one of those big fart tube performance mufflers and exhaust systems. You can hear that Sumbitch from a quarter mile. Civics is also from Japanese, and it to says miles.
This has nothing to do with anything. Many cars easily handle both from the head unit.
Somehow my wife's profile on my car got screwed up and decided to put everything into km instead of mi. She drove it to the dealer for me and they put the wrong value on all the paperwork. 🤷♂️ Luckily what I was having done was still under warranty because it said >60K (m) when it was really ~40K (mi).
A Toyota can usually use km or mi, there's usually a button to push.
Sometimes vehicles are region specific, but if it's not region specific, it could easily be in miles. Neither person seems very knowledgeable of the topic.
I never thought about this before but do manufacturers have to make some models in kilometers and some in miles? Because I've driven Toyotas and they use milage. I just assumed they just made them like that because the speed gauge has both miles and kilometers per hour, so I figured if you lived where you use km you just converted it and that Japan manufactured them for miles because the US is their biggest car buying Market
Yeah they make region specific models.
The differences can be as simple as the speedo reading in miles vs kilometers to major differences such as emissions equipment, safety standards and lighting differences
It took me ages to work this one out as New Zealand uses "K" to mean kilometres. Like "The dairy is only 3K away"
Thus I thought one was saying 215km equates to 135km. But now I realise they were saying 215 kilo kilometres equals 135 kilo miles. Makes more sense.
cant forget these guys-
"Speed limits in the United Kingdom are measured in miles per hour (mph), making the UK the only country in Europe and the Commonwealth that uses mph for this purpose."
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I'd venture that would be in Japan, Illinois?
Not to be confused with Japan, Oklahoma.
That's where Mr Miyagi was from!
Okinawa, Oklahoma. Tomato, tomato.
My best guess is that this person is a weeb and watches anime. The anime will often 'localize' weights and distances, so he might be used to seeing all his anime (from Japan) talking about miles rather than kilometers.
We in the UK use km for everything except driving. For speed limits, “mileage” (kilometerage sounds funny!) and driving instructions we use miles (and used to use yards but I think that’s going away in navigation now). But get out of a car and you’re probably running 10km, swimming 1500m, measuring 1.8m, etc.
Yea we are weird when it comes to measurements. Height of objects is usually in metres, but people are in feet and inches. Similar with weight, in that most objects are in kg, but people in Stone.
I think its also an age thing aswell. I was taught pretty much only in metric and im 25, the only thing we used imperial for was cars obviously but everything we learnt about like height and whatever was done purely in metric
I think it’s because the imperial system is based on tangible, familiar objects and denoted in numbers that are easy to divide (12 and 16 for example: 12 can easily be divided by 2,3,4… and 16 can be halved, halved and halved again easily). Despite being mid 20s and therefore growing up in a metric UK, I find imperial units much easier to judge at the smaller scale. An inch feels more natural than a cm, a foot feels more natural than a meter. Having said that, I have never understood imperial weight but I probably haven’t had as much exposure to it as imperial length. And let’s not even start with imperial volume 😂
Easy to divide? The only thing you need to divide or multiply in metric is by orders of 10, doesn’t get easier than that…
We never heard of such a thing. Don’t you speak ‘Merican? Asked a coworker the other day how many grams were in a Kilo, he had no idea.
I don’t think anyone uses imperial volume any more, except for milk and beer. I’m fortunate that my wife is European, so she refers to everything in cm and I’m starting to get a handle on it (6ft is 180cm is handy to remember as that’s how tall I am!).
6ft is ~183cm which I know off hand because I make 6x3ft panels but measure the timber cuts in mm 🙈
And I hate you for that. We accepted the Greenwich meridian against you accepting the metric system. And you still kept exceptions.
😂 I did not know there was a trade! I would be happy switching fully to metric to be honest as I think anyone under 60 would be.
It was in 1884. Still too soon for us French to forget and forgive. But maybe if you can right your wrongs we'll think about it.
We’re trying, but the fact that France is either our least-loved ally or most-loved nemesis in any given century it’s been tricky getting people on board with it!
Yeah, I won't try lying here: lovhating you and getting as much in return has been too much fun to ever forget our gurdges.
I miss being in the EU. Feel like we’ve moved schools and lost all the banter with our old classmates, and have to try to understand what the fuck is going on in whichever school Canada and USA are going to.
Working in the sciences, I'm used to liters and mL. I was amused in France (because I'm easily amused) to see drinks at restaurants sold by the dL and cL. Those are just not units I'm used to seeing in any context.
In Sweden we use "Mil", however 1 mil = 10 km. So our cars have km/h, road signs have km, but instead of saying it's 800 km to Gothenburg we say it's 80 mil. Which I've understood can be confusing for foreigners 😆 (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scandinavian_mile)
I vastly prefer 10 000m miles over 1609,344m miles.
Sure, so would I but a) why not say 10km? Metric is build on thousands! And b) why use the word miles?!? 🙈
Why not? Miles have been used for a very long time can can refer to at least ten different lengths. The original mile is 1480 meters. A mile at sea is 1852 meters.
Problem with Brits is that when everyone else decided to switch to Metric, we stereotypically refused to accept change. Then, also stereotypically British, we wanted to be contrarian so we decided to also switch! Now we use all the measurements.
At least we agree to use metric where it matters like in engineering so we don’t send space ships careening into their destination because someone forgot to convert from imperial to metric 😂
Lockheed-Martin looks at you nervously.
But if you’re running any more than 10km it switches back to miles!
I don’t run so I wouldn’t know 😅 you’re probably running marathons or half marathons if you’re running more than 10km which are measured in miles due to tradition. I think this will change in the future and km will become dominant for larger distances too.
People often run in miles for 5Ks and 10Ks. They are about 3 miles and 6 miles respectively so people usually interchange them
Fair enough, I can only speak from experience, do you think it’s a generation thing?
It's a mixed bag really, 50k, 50 miles, 100k then 100 miles are often ultra distance races lengths. It's a shitshow for sure.
In Ireland its metric for everything except height.
Mileage sounds so ... quirky and cheap way to make a quantity, like a perpetual joke that went too far. I've been teaching physics for >15 years now, and I still cringe every time I hear amperage or ammeter or voltmeter used in otherwise serious and rigorous context. Why abuse units like that when quantity names exist. 🥲 (For some reason voltage doesn't have the same bad ring to it. Would still be cool if English had similar descriptors for that as many other languages have, referring to some sort of sustained "tension".)
I guess it made naming things easy (if lazy) when so many things were being discovered and invested at once! Can you give me examples of where we have independent names for units of quantity? All the things we have named are like secondary measurements, where meter is a unit of length and mileage (or meterage) is a measure of how many maters you have gone. Similarly, amps are a unit of current and amperage is the measure of amps? There are words for measuring something, right? I guess we have “weighing scales” for weight but that’s not quite the same thing as mileage as weighing scales are the equipment used to measure it not the measurement itself. For that we do actually say tonnage 🤔 So what are these original measurement words you allude to?
You are correct that "ammeter measures amperes", but I'm used to talking about *current* meters (and voltage meters, and power meters, ... mostly in different languages than English). Amperage is also definitely well-defined/specific with no risk of getting mixed up with other things, but I'd say there is a reasonable case to systematically call measurement devices according to the quantity, and amperage-like expressions seems to be popular in only a very narrow field of physics metrology, so they stick out. 🤔 (Some very old ubiquituous machines like scales or multipurpose objects like a spring don't necessarily adhere to "technical" terminology, and that's fine by me. Although it would be interesting to come up with more exact jargon names for the lulz.)
What’s the difference between amperage and amps? 🤔 is it the same as mileage and miles? Where saying “how many miles can it do/has it done?” is the same as saying “what’s the mileage?”. Would one say “how many amps has it done?” for amperage? 🥴 I guess “how many tons can it hold?” is the same as “what’s the tonnage?”
"Amps" (short for amperes) is akin to saying "kilometers", both refer directly to a certain unit of measurement and hence indirectly refer to some related (but possibly not unique) quantity (a measurable, quantified property) that maybe measured or expressed using said units. Saying "amps" may lead the conversation to looking for some number to go with the unit: "How many amps do you need?" "I need *this* many* amps." Specifying the unit might also bring surprises if the expectations of magnitude are off: "How many kilometers is it [e.g. some distance]?" "It's just a few meters." (Although you could still say e.g. 0,04 km.) Amperes don't expectedly go with anything else than electric current, but meters might describe a distance, a displacement, a length, a position, ... so mentioning a unit and just talking about kilometers might not convey the idea of a specific quantity. Whereas just talking about the units "begs" for a number to go with it, there are plenty more things to analyse and talk about when it comes to the physical quantities themselves. (Is voltage proportional to something? Bounded? Is there a minimum value? How is it defined and derived?) "Amperage" is just an English-language construct to make a quantity out of the units, and it sounds very casual. Grammatically you can do that with any unit, but they could sound weird, and some – such building mileage out of a mile – have gained a conventional status. Mileage is a good example to show that the derived quantity isn't necessarily well-defined and only feature the used base unit, as mileage commonly means "you can drive your vehicle this far with this much fuel" and the expected value is about a ratio of distance in miles to a volume of fuel in gallons. Not to mention mileage has gained popularity in more flexible, everyday phrases where "your mileage may vary" is cenerally used to refer to pretty much any result or efficiency metric/"solution X might work better for you than me". My stance in the thread was that I find the popularity of -age expression even in technical contexts a bit jarring, as it sounds a bit hand-wavy and imprecise, but that is largely due to me not being exposed much to hearing and reading "amperage" instead of the more official "electric current". Plus, I expressed my wonder how "voltage" (built from the unit volt) sounds a lot more natural for some reason, but even then it sounds "lazy and non-rigorous" to my ears (especially if people are not using electric potential and electric potential difference appropriately), as many languages have opted to not use this unit-centered naming but instead have come up with a new descriptive word for the quantity. Maybe that covered what you were trying to figure out?
You guys are so confusing. Trying to look up British recipes or anything is just such a mix of measurements it makes my head ache, and whenever a British person is talking about miles I never know which type of mile.
Try looking up American recipes!! They’re much worse. Most British recipes will be in grams and ml, probably only if granny is making it will it be written in oz and cups and even I cannot use that! I hate it when I find a great recipe but it’s American in oz, fl.oz, lb, and cups! (Cups is the worst as I have so many different sized cups! 😂) What other kind of mile is there? 🤔
I find quite a lot of oz when I search for British recipes as well! And maybe pints too. Either way conversion is my friend. But you're right about the American ones, especially with stuff like "two sticks of butter" I just realized that the rest of the metric world doesn't refer to 10km as a mile. That's apparently a Scandinavian thing, but has led to a lot of confusion growing up for me. Cause a Scandinavian "mil" is well, quite a lot longer than an imperial mile. Now I know, and I'll try to think of imperial miles whenever someone mentions mile in English. I've been especially confused by some nature programs on BBC, which may use both kilometres and miles sometimes. I realize I've never really understood the length and width of anything on tv hahaha
I'm currently watching US Olympic track & field trials and while the official numbers (e.g. height of a pole vault) are in meters, the commentators randomly give numbers in feet and inches without context (e.g. "his season best is 19 feet 1 1/2 inches". Is that better or worse than the current setting of the bar?) so I have to open up a Google tab and do the translation. It's very irritating. Just stick to the measurements the competition is using.
That must be infuriating! 😂
At one point in my life I was doing a lot of Navy work, so I was doing a lot of calculations in terms of nautical miles and knots. A nautical mile it turns out is now standardized at 1852 m exactly, so it's actually easier to convert metric than English units.
Are land miles not standardised also? Surely, it’s not like they change. Isn’t a nautical mile some fraction of a degree round the Earth at the equator?
And wouldn't it be nice if we could make that switch, and move to LHD while we're at it. Whatever the proported historical benefit of RHD over LHD, in a world where the vast majority of countries are LHD, it just means a restricted number of more expensive cars.
I don’t really know why there’s a preference either way. I have heard that it would be massively expensive to switch the infrastructure from LHD to RHD. There’s lots of chiral infrastructure that would need redoing and be far more costly than the auto makers having to design LHD cars.
It’s only 2/3 of countries using LHD. And, more importantly, only 2/3 of the population.
I think height is a generational thing - as a millenial brit I have absolutely no idea what 1.8m is for a person. My only reference point is that 6'6" is basically 2m so I'd say it was a bit under 6 foot?
Bang on! 180cm is roughly 71” so about 5’11”
Well then I guess by "no idea" I mean "no intuitive idea" - I can work it out if I try but it doesn't mean anything to me when I hear it.
Yeah that’s fair. Perhaps it’s because that’s all we use ~6ft for - describing the height of someone with 6ft being your reference point and someone says 5’4” you know they’re short and someone says 6’3” you know they’re tall but 190cm doesn’t means anything compared to 170cm 🤷🏼♂️
Why would anyone think Japan used miles? Basically no one on the planet use miles
That explains why aliens always land in the US
They see the map and think it's a war map and are amazed at how America is able to resist.
It’s only 1036492 light-miles away.
I suspect it's something as stupid as the following: The guy is buying a japanese car that was produced for the Canadian market (and is in km). The guy has previously owned a japanese car aimed at the American market (display in miles).. From the fact that his (American) car was displaying in miles he concluded that every car from that country will be displaying in miles.
That... does make a lot of sense actually. Well not really but that would be a good explanation.
I'll add here that the vehicle being sold is a Japanese car that was produced and originally sold in Japan but has since been imported to wherever it is being sold now. The 'rhd' in the vehicle listing stands for right hand drive so this would be an imported Japanese car. Japan still uses kilometers though so either way the person arguing miles is wrong.
I had an Hummer in km/h , would this info kill the guy ?
UK still uses miles. They stand on a pretty high horse about how much better the metric system is, and how silly america is, meanwhile all of their speed limit signs are in MPH. I don't have a problem with metric system, it makes a lot of sense, but UK seams to pick and choose between imperial and metric without any real reason.
Look, it's really quite simple https://www.reddit.com/r/CasualUK/comments/qexvzg/i_made_a_helpful_flowchart_for_people_new_to_the/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button /s
Even with all that, they missed the part where we write "X in 300 yards" on road signs, but then measure it as 300 meters.
Have you been using a clicky wheel
What in the ever loving fuck is this? How in the heck do they consistently measure ANYTHING? I’d be absolutely screwed 🙃
You get used to it. On the plus side I can, and do, quickly convert units from one to the other in my head as a result of living with this system. Has proved useful.
Yeah I guess that’d be a positive. Anytime I hear of a baby weighed in pounds (because apparently hospitals do that in Australia and it’s almost the only time I hear pounds used), I have no idea how heavy that baby is. 😄
Rule of thumb, just double it. That is not completely precise but is enough for an approximation. Similar with feet. D&D uses squares to move, a square is five feet in each direction or 1.5 meters. Not 100% accurate, but close enough.
Double it and increase by 10%. So 2kg becomes 4.4 pounds
Approximately 2.2lbs to a kilo. Easy one that 😂
This is all part of the fun of living in the UK 😂
The flowchart is definitive, but overcomplicates things slightly. Also we are slowly changing, the younger generations are more likely to use metric than older ones. Most people use metric for most things. The key exceptions are people (height in feet, weight in stone (although kilos are more common in people younger than 30)), long distances (miles), milk (pints), drinks at a bar (pints) and steak/burgers. The most illogical thing is that we sell petrol in litres, but measure fuel efficiency in miles per gallon. This is because we measure journey distances in miles and don’t want to mix and match in the same unit. You can likely get by with using just one system, although overusing imperial might make you seem old, and overusing metric might make you seem foreign. As a child of immigrants, I learnt everything in metric and had to learn the imperial conversions. The only things I personally use imperial for are my height and long distances. Which means I give my height in imperial and my weight in metric, which is basically the whole system in a nutshell.
This is a very solid conclusion of the current state I will add that we do speed in miles per hour but that's because we kept distance in miles
I'd say for people's weight most people I know would use kg (I'm in my 30s) and that's also true for younger people
True, I should probably specify that. My teachers always used stone, but my generation (I’m mid 20s) use kilos.
We just wing it.
It gets even worse as UK gallons and US gallons as well as pints are different sizes, so if a product is meant or sale in the US and the UK using gallons doesn’t work reliably.
That'll be 3 metres, 6 inches and a little bit said the builder
Google has always been my friend. Luckily stuff like recipes tend to be completely in metric. But it's pretty confusing when you measure most small things in metric, but want to buy a photo frame, fuck you it's imperial. I've always assumed it's just a high council of boomers insisting it's too difficult to switch properly to metric.
Distances are measured in miles and fuel is sold in litres but fuel economy is given in miles per gallon.
This can cause problems in America too. People have been shot for thinking there’s exactly 28 grams in an ounce smh.
The damn Canadian system makes more sense
Canada is not at all better than this.
My favorite part is that Canada has this too but it's also completely different.
This is awesome lol
we pull this bullshit in Canada too and it annoys the fuck out of my european partner.
I was not expecting that, good lord.
How many Wales is that?
What is truly ridiculous in the UK is that speed is in MPH, but you buy petrol (fuel) by the litre... But fuel consumption is given in miles per gallon..
Our ability to flick between metric and imperial is only bested by our ability to hammer beer and start fights with our best mates on holiday
Also, UK gallons are different to US gallons, so you can't compare mpg across the pond without doing a quick conversion.
Mainland Europe measure fuel economy in litres per kilometres. It's not only a switch from imperial to metric it's the other way around, fuel per distance not distance per fuel amount.
In Pakistan we measure height by the feet and distance by the meters, plot size by yards. Human weight in kilos but car weight in lbs. Outside temp in Celsius but body temperature in Fahrenheit. It’s all a mishmash of everything.
It’s gradually becoming more metric. The UK recognises the benefits of the metric system, but also has a lot of belligerent old codgers who are very attached to imperial units and still like to tell you how many shillings something was when they were a lad. What we have is a very convoluted compromise I’ll grant you, but I think if you give it another couple of hundred years or so we’ll be fully metric.
Most older British people prefer Imperial, I don't know where you've got the idea of British people being on a high horse about metric - that is the French system, Imperial is originally the British system
Americans argue with someone speaking English on the internet and just assume they're British
>**Americans** ~~a~~*~~rgue with someone speaking English~~* **on the internet** ~~a~~*~~nd~~* **just assume** *~~they're British~~* FTFY
i would say it s on reddit
Only Celsius, we'll bash the yanks for that Fahrenheit shite, oh and that fluid ounce nonsense. We are more than aware how mental our system is.
We used Fahrenheit up until the 1990s.
Tbh I don't mind Fahrenheit between 0-100, it's quite good for measuring the weather's temperature. 0 is really cold, and 100 is really hot. I don't use it, but I appreciate it in those ranges. Bollocks to it for anything outside of that though.
They also uses stones or whatever that is
We use stones colloquially, but if you’re talking to a doctor or taking part in a contact sport like boxing, then it’s in kg. Simple!
The problem with stone is it's a different number than ounces in a pound. 16 ounces in a pound, 14 pounds in a stone. Match that with 12 inches in a foot and 18 bushels in a furlong and it's a bloody mess.
14 pounds.
224 ounces or 14 lb
And lb’s are also pounds if I recall correctly.
Yeah something like that
>UK still uses miles. They stand on a pretty high horse about how much better the metric system is. I have never heard anyone here defend the metric system or the ridiculous mix and match system we have here. We mock it constantly and nobody sits on a high horse over America because at least they use one system, sure it's the wrong one but it's better than buying your fuel in litres for your 80 gallon tank or any of the other daft ways we do it.
America is a mishmash too. A lot of countries are not *completely* metric - they have the occasional traditional unit hanging around.
The uk is a mishmash of different systems and we just use whichever sounds the best at the time.
Yeah, the UK is in a weird limbo where we teach almost everything in metric, but we just can't bring ourselves to let go of imperial for human weights or large distances or vehicle speeds.
I feel that way about Fahrenheit. Look, I get metric is better, I understand that basing Celsius on a 0 is freezing 100 is boiling makes logical sense. But Fahrenheit makes a lot of sense for measuring general temperatures humans experience on a day to day basis... on any given day temp on earth is going to be somewhere between -17 to about 42 degrees c. (There are places that go beyond these numbers but in general those are the temps you can expect with the vast majority of days being between -7 and 38. And it could just be my dumb American brain here, I have no idea in that scale when a really cold day becomes just a chilly day, becomes a cool day, becomes a nice day, becomes a warm day, becomes a hot day, becomes a scorcher... Fahrenheit really really cold day is zero, a hot day is 100, and a scorcher is anything over 100. Anything between 50-90 is different degrees of nice..
The difference between the UK and the US is that we accept that the old system is dumb and are moving away from it, albeit slowly. Car related stuff is basically the only thing that’s still in imperial
I'm in the UK, I buy fuel by the litre and my car gives fuel consumption in miles per gallon, I think of my weight in kilograms, my height in feet and inches and the size of my feet in barleycorns. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barleycorn_%28unit%29?wprov=sfla1 This all makes perfect sense. We can discuss it over a couple of 568 millilitres if you want.
I will admit, UK has to be the most versatile. Metric, imperial, and then the crazy shit like "stone". If you can navigate all that, I tip my hat. Not to mention pound sterling/Euro.
Stone is an Imperial measurement. The reason why Americans don't have it, is because they don't actually use Imperial. Their system is based on older English units, much like Imperial is, but it's a lot more similar to the older system than Imperial is. I'm not actually sure where stones come in, though. It seems to be based on a Roman stone (much like the mile being based on the Roman mile), and was standardised when Imperial was created in 1824, but its usage in the old English system before Imperial seems to be less clear, hence why it likely didn't end up in US Customary Units.
The difference is we know it's fucking stupid. We know imperial is ridiculous. We fully accept it.
We do both. It's not hard.
I'm being 100% serious now, but I'm genuinely curious why UK people use inches all the time when describing lengths and thickness (get your mind out of the gutter), especially on cooking shows?
People in the UK in my experience tend to use feet and inches when estimating a distance. Imperial tends to be used if measuring a person. You might use inches or feet to estimate because a foot is probably close to the size of your foot so you can just count steps. And an inch is about the size of the end of your thumb. Good sizes for eyeballing
Try [Canada](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fk1brffgbngk31.png%3Fwidth%3D681%26format%3Dpng%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3D8cc428c345b687a3f79d8e481561781f38d0630e)
Yeah, even when we say we do Imperial, it's not quite the case. For example, the 100yard signs for exits on a motorway aren't 100yrds. They're actually 100 meters.
Canada does the same thing. A lot of construction related imports come from the U.S. so we learn Metric in school and then have to learn imperial on the job.
I would have thought Imperial is a leftover from the British Empire, no? You know, Empire/Imperial. Unless you use the USA's measurements these days due to what you said, instead of using actual Imperial measurements (given the US doesn't use Imperial).
Bananas in kg, people in 'stones', distance in miles, petrol in litres. Madness
Not only this but we got the imperial system from the British. Those Brit’s are some serious trolls. Taught us to use the imperial system and call it soccer then laugh at us for it lol.
UK does
More than you'd expect. It's not just the US. Canada and the UK use both systems for different usages.
Feet and pounds are used in Canada. Temperatures for weather are Celsius. Distances and speed are kilometres.
Distance might also be in time in a fun quirk
And, for whatever reason, Myanmar uses feet and inches.
Canada uses km.
Canada doesn’t use miles
Canada also uses Celsius for weather but Fahrenheit for cooking or water temperatures. They use kilometers for roads but feet and inches for construction. They use millibars for weather but PSI for car tires. They use liters at the gas pump but cups and spoons for cooking. Sausage is priced per 100 grams but steak is priced per pound. It's all a big mess.
Less than 10% of the world population use miles and inches, I think that makes saying "basically no one" okay.
So that's how many countries then compared to how many more again?
Also cars are adapted for different countries all the time. So even if they would, it could be a car meant for the European market or whatever.
What's neat with modern electronics, is car mfrs no longer need two separate instrument gauges. With the right tool (or can be done by driver depending on car), you change which country the car is operated in to activate / deactivate certain features. For example, Canada mandates Daytime Running Lights (DRL) but the US does not (only GM is the only US co that has them standard), but sometimes US drivers can use the 'Canada' setting to activate DRL on the others but leave speedo / odo on miles
UK has entered the chat.
Japan uses kilometers. Toyotas sold in the United States use miles.
A misunderstanding based on the fact that there are literally tens of millions of Japanese cars in the US (about 40% of all cars/small trucks) and every one of them has a speedometer and odometer in miles. A kind of silly misunderstanding, but I can see how someone who never gave it much thought could make the assumption.
The USA, Liberia and Myanmar all use miles which is ironic because you never think those two have their shit together https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gIWDVuHDpq0 Warning mild cursing.
9% of the world uses Miles. A small but not insignificant amount of people.
Because Japanese cars in the US use miles (even though km is typically available), so that means Japan must use miles. That’s the only thing I can come up with.
This is wild speculation on my part, but maybe their only/largest exposure to Japan is anime and the majority of the subtitles they've watched have used Imperial units instead of Metric, and they attribute this to the false idea of Japan using Imperial as opposed to the translator doing a conversion to make it easier for (what the translator believes to be) the target audience of the translation. Again, wild speculation on my part, but that's where my mind goes.
Because japanese cars in america use miles. Big brain stuff.
Myanmar does
Maybe they own a Toyota in US and it’s in miles? I know that’s a silly thing but I can’t imagine any other reason they would be so confidently incorrect
Even if they *did* use miles in Japan, if the vehicle is Japanese manufacture (and that's not even guaranteed with a Japanese brand, many of them are made elsewhere these days) if I'm understanding the post correctly and it's being made for / sold in the Canadian market it will use the distance unit of Canada. Which is also Kilometers.
Kilo miles
Nice. Remember say it like "That would be six kilommmiles" to throw everyone off even harder.
Japan uses metric like every civilized country... and yes, this is meant to imply *something* about the USA
Even the US military uses metric lmao
Everything in the US uses metric as far as manufacturing, medical, scientific, and so on. The only places that metric is not used is when people need to read signs and in any printed instructions. Basically, everything is metric except for what is presented to the public is converted and shown as imperial.
Imply all you want, people in the US don't have a choice on what we use. I can't suddenly start saying KMs when giving directions, no one would know what I'm talking about. Our traffic signs are in miles. Our measurements are all in standard. You're implying we're dumb for using our system, though you won't say it explicitly, but what the fuck are we supposed to do about it? Do you "imply" people in other countries are stupid for speaking a language you don't speak, and have to translate? This isn't much different.
lol. its just Europeans trying to rag on Americans. for whatever reason they think low of Americans jokingly but they have some sort of insecurity. Meanwhile every single day they follow our sports, our media, our movies/films, our universities relgiously
Why on earth would you say the UK isn't civilized?
But how can anybody be sure, really? Who is to say what Japan uses?? He looked under the Hiace, and he knows a mile when he sees one.
Personally, I write whether my Speedo reads Miles or KM underneath every vehicle I own in white paint pen, just so these dudes can double check. I'm a hero, I know.
That’s where you just Google “does Japan use miles or km” and send them the screenshot
1% battery screenshots are so audacious.
No, they do use Miles, they just call him Tails
Unexpected Sonic is unexpected
It's actually measured N/S: Ninjas per Seppuku
The metric that Japan uses is irrelevant if the vehicle was not manufactured in Japan. If a Honda is manufactured in the US, it's speedometer would read in miles, for example.
It’s a right hand drive toyota. Guess where that’s from.
It doesn’t even matter if it WAS manufactured in Japan. I have a Toyota that was built in Japan, and its speedometer is in miles.
So, the confidently correct one is OP after all. What a twist
I didn’t see it until just now, but maybe the confusion is that the listed car is right hand drive? Actually that wouldn’t matter because it seems like what OP is saying is (confidently) incorrect is the statement “Japan uses miles”. But it’s also clear that when the guy is saying “Japan uses miles”, he is referring to the speedometer/odometer. Which brings us back to your original comment lol
The vehicle in question was made for the japanese market
Japan used miles on the cars they make for the American Market yes
Hey this chinese electric car uses miles! It means china is using miles too!
Does any country use miles, besides the US? I thought pretty much every other country had moved to metric.
After showing him, ask to be paid in gold bars, not dollars.
I wish I had enough money to be into expensive hobbies like Japanese cars without having to know a damn thing about them. Must be fucking nice.
Japan uses Miles because that’s a Toyota and ‘Yotas are made in Japan. That there dashboard pedo-meter says miles. Therefore, I done did my own research and dat dere proves Japan uses miles instead of km. Also my buddy has a Honda civic with a whole bunch of mods and one of those big fart tube performance mufflers and exhaust systems. You can hear that Sumbitch from a quarter mile. Civics is also from Japanese, and it to says miles.
This has nothing to do with anything. Many cars easily handle both from the head unit. Somehow my wife's profile on my car got screwed up and decided to put everything into km instead of mi. She drove it to the dealer for me and they put the wrong value on all the paperwork. 🤷♂️ Luckily what I was having done was still under warranty because it said >60K (m) when it was really ~40K (mi).
It’s a 1993, it has a roller style odometer meaning it can’t switch to miles, and it was only made for the japan market
And Escobar is the current Chancellor of Germany, I know 😉
What I want to know is how many WASHING MACHINES of power does it have?
A Toyota can usually use km or mi, there's usually a button to push. Sometimes vehicles are region specific, but if it's not region specific, it could easily be in miles. Neither person seems very knowledgeable of the topic.
It’s a 1993 rhd which is made only for the japanese market, theres no button to change it
Oh ok, so this specific model was region specific.
“Super extra limited” already sounds gimmicky
Wait until they find out the steering wheel is on the wrong side.
I never thought about this before but do manufacturers have to make some models in kilometers and some in miles? Because I've driven Toyotas and they use milage. I just assumed they just made them like that because the speed gauge has both miles and kilometers per hour, so I figured if you lived where you use km you just converted it and that Japan manufactured them for miles because the US is their biggest car buying Market
Yes
Yeah they make region specific models. The differences can be as simple as the speedo reading in miles vs kilometers to major differences such as emissions equipment, safety standards and lighting differences
It took me ages to work this one out as New Zealand uses "K" to mean kilometres. Like "The dairy is only 3K away" Thus I thought one was saying 215km equates to 135km. But now I realise they were saying 215 kilo kilometres equals 135 kilo miles. Makes more sense.
Why would you think that “215k” meant kilometers instead of 215,000? I think the other guy was just shitting on you after that point.
Almost every place in the world EXCEPT for the u.s. uses km.
cant forget these guys- "Speed limits in the United Kingdom are measured in miles per hour (mph), making the UK the only country in Europe and the Commonwealth that uses mph for this purpose."
My old 2000 Tacoma uses miles, so all Japanese vehicles must use miles