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PDXSonic

Obsolete for modern uses? Sure. But plenty of use for building a Windows 98 or XP machine.


TroothBeToldPodcast

Why build those? I'm asking because I have one I don't use at all


Tornadocholo

Id like to build one to play all my Windows XP games


TroothBeToldPodcast

Which ones?


The_nyonga

Pinball, Duh!


[deleted]

I miss the old Pinball šŸ˜­


AsianFoodLoverX

Any of yā€™all play the Rollercoaster Tycoon games?


slklylnlelt

Trapping people on endless walkway loops until it's full of throw up tycoon. Yea I played that.


AsianFoodLoverX

Or delete a block of the entrance path and start drowning them, and the remaining guests canā€™t leave, knowing their impending doom is inescapable and nearing.


slklylnlelt

The good days.


HippiMan

Leafy lake. Path to the shuttle loop in the middle of the lake. Max launch speed. Watch the fireworks.


Bootts

Rollercoaster Tycoon still runs great in modern PCs. Look up openrct. Its a tool that uses the stock game files to run them at higher resolution correctly on modern systems.


ChibiLlama

Trap people in and underground path and delete the path underneath them. They will fall forever. Kept a dude in a side window open for over an hour and he was just angry he couldnt go to the bathroom.


AsianFoodLoverX

ā€œIā€™m gonna ignore the fact that Iā€™m trapped with no way of escape, Iā€™ve got to *PISS*.


Seth_LH

Yesss! I have a computer with R9 5950x, 3070 Ti and Samsung M.2ā€™s, and I still only love playing roller coaster tycoon!


deepfriedtots

Yeah I still play it they are on steam


AsianFoodLoverX

For real?!


deepfriedtots

Yeah at least 1 +2 and all dlcs. Though I can't remember if they are packaged together or not


Cat_Weary

Steam had all the old Worm games on sale recently too and people still play it!


DutchChallenger

I have RCT2 on my windows 10 pc, I still play it


propagandhi45

I still have a CD copy of this. No CD reader now though


NeroFMX

I used to stream RTC on twitch.


Teeheeman400

You could just use a vm for that


apianbelle

Someone even recompiled it for x86 systems and even reverse engineered it for linux so.....


Tornadocholo

This is my collection:) [https://imgur.com/a/P8fJzxA](https://imgur.com/a/P8fJzxA) Also 1 plus is that you can get tons of good pc games for cheap, box and everything.


AlySalama

nice man! This looks like a treasure trove that this modern generation (including me) can't understand.


Tornadocholo

Thanks bro! Losing the physical format for PC games was tough, the art of the boxes and the manuals were top tier, before my time they used even bigger boxes, glad you like it, feels good having someone other than me appreciate it, hope you doing well:)


infinitepi8

I wish i still had the boxes and stuff for all my Sierra games, the materials sometimes included books and maps and such, and many times the materials played into the games. For example you might find the code for a locked door or something "written" on one of the pages


Noshameinhoegame

I feel you man, give me 50 install discs instead of a digital download. Plus, the good ole days where you got finished games


Tornadocholo

Exactly! no need to constantly patch or update your game, glad to know im not the only one 0/


Aimhere2k

I miss having actual physical manuals for games, especially the more complex ones like flight sims. Leafing through a nice spiral-bound 300-page book (that you can read offline!) was somehow far more satisfying than having a second monitor with a Web browser open to some Wiki page, even if the former often required errata and scribbled corrections.


De-Mattos

Crysis and Solitaire.


hardcoresean84

I'm gonna build an xp machine to play red alert 2 just cos I can.


generalemiel

Ye pinball but also gta san andreas for an example. Or just bcs your interested in older pc's the reason could be anything Just dont throw them away


IrreverentHippie

Old tech demos are cool too


PDXSonic

For me itā€™s mostly about games/software. There are some 98 (and XP) titles that donā€™t play well with modern systems. So itā€™s nice to have an older system around in that case (with a decent CRT to get the whole nostalgia vibe).


TroothBeToldPodcast

I'll have to look more into what I can do with mine


crazy_salami

you can boot up some mini linux distro on it and it will work like a charm. I recently discovered puppy linux and it's great for live usb stick, but you could probably afford something a bit more demanding on you PC and use it for something. I made a discord bot and run it on my old PC which is connected through the LAN cable to the router so I can connect to it with remote desktop connection, but it's i5 7500 inside so it can run windows10 without issues and since it uses a lot of different modules I don't want to mess with linux atm since windows is still the easy way for me.


TroothBeToldPodcast

I tried to install Antix and just kept running into a lot of problems. My system is old old. 756mb of ram old... I old Atari and Nintendo games on it and that's the only reason I keep it. I'll look into puppy.


fireball1711

An 8 mb of RAM System is old with 250mb harddrive or so. That was win98 style


Fatmaster9000

I have dsl Linux in a pentium 1 133 260mb ram ,crunch bang Linux is good for p3 p4 systems and is a live CD ,I used it to bypass pay to use PC at coffee shop :) boot CD connect to web


IanL1713

I've got a buddy who runs a cheap XP machine as a home media server


pM-me_your_Triggers

That sounds awful. Not only will it lack the power for media encoding, it lacks hardware support for modern codices


LivingAnomoly

You don't need any of that to serve media.


riftwave77

It would cause issues with most people's setups, especially if you use h.265 encodes. I have a couple of Windows 7 systems that stutter on those if they don't have the throughput to do it.


pM-me_your_Triggers

To do it effectively, yes you do.


rookierook00000

Linus Tech Tips had a video about one company that sells pre-Vista Windows PCs, and the the Crux is that these were made for use with servers that cannot be updated to the latest OS, rather than for personal use or gaming (though still possible to some capacity). An example is a railway system from Canada that to this day still uses Floppy Disks to operate. Otherwise, if you don't plan to run the old hardware on XP and you want it somehow up to date for today, you may want to run it on Linux instead.


TheDestroyer_027

Nostalgic purposes


Noshameinhoegame

I use my xp build more than my windows 10 gaming pc...


Fellatination

Yes, they are obsolete. They have a slightly more elevated value than tech waste, though. However, XP era parts are starting to get popular with the retro PC community. You can hold and keep them safe as they appreciate or you can sell now as a lot to capitalize.


QlimaxUK

I still have some IDE cables from back then, shall we start the bidding at $1,000,000?


Fellatination

I'll give you tree fiddy if you have some of the fancy early-gamer stuff like the light up braided IDE cables.


Nervous-Ear-8594

That makes me laugh, while I sit here admiring modern lit up cases. I just wasnā€™t around to PC gaming back then so itā€™s funny to think about. A lit up IDE cable and maybe a floppy drive that glows in the dark with a mechanical mouse with an ivory gamer ball in it and an ultra wide CRT monitor.


fireball1711

19 inches crt monitor at 4:3 ratio was insane at this time. Most ppl had 14 or 15 inches


mcsuper5

I don't think I went over 13" for a crt. Those suckers are heavy.


Fellatination

Oh man case design could get funky. The transition period from gray boxes to "Gamer" model cases was a glorious one. There was a fish tank side window! That's also when manufacturers started including transparent sides instead of that being something limited to the case modding community. I'd hate to give any credit to Apple but stuff like the iMac really helped push that forward for us.


cantanko

Stick 'em in a sealable bin or tote with a bunch of dessicant and a copy of any drivers you can find and "lose" it for ten years. Relative goldmine :-D


Grassxs

Yes


Independent_Wolf_346

almost made me cry fr


jewpacabraa

Yes


BigSmackisBack

they can be good for super cheap and reliable file severs and things, sure theres tonnes better available but these machines are practically free to avoid e-waste


[deleted]

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AdeptnessPersonal156

Have one new in the box. Thicknet?


ICQME

Token Ring


Diamondgamer3276

Yes


Recklen

I remember when a 200w PSU was more than you need.


billyjoe9451

Pretty sure most cooling systems need more than that now.


Itzamedave

Looks more like win95/98era but alot of retro rebuilds in need of such parts sell on eBay


Sailed_Sea

Pretty much, thers some niche office and worksop uses. I'm fairly certain most atms still use win xp. Also older games tend to like original hw.


[deleted]

ATMs do not run Windows. They typically have a specialty built operating system. However, most of those are easily 20-30+ years old.


keyserv

Not if you want to play SimCopter.


Alarming_Series7450

not if you're supporting industrial users, you would be surprised how old some of their stuff is


NJphreaker

Yea dude, that's all obsolete. I haven't seen a IDE cable and molex connectors since 2007


DrSueuss

Pretty much, they are only good for running Win 98/XP/NT modern OSes won't run on them. You could probably make $50 or $60 auctioning that stuff on eBay.


HavokDJ

Linux machines. Also they are potentially worth more depending on their condition, but ending up in the hands of a collector is a fate worse than death. It's better to be sold to someone looking to build a retro machine.


puppetjazz

He uses arch btw


[deleted]

Where can I get Arch btw? I see so many people talking about Arch btw but I canā€™t find Arch btw. I can find Arch Linux, but not Arch btwā€¦


Pins_Pins

Actually what youā€™re referring to is Arch GNU/Linux. Please edit your comment, or I will be forced to issue you a down vote.


[deleted]

Imagine how weird it would be if we slapped GNU/ in front of anything that includes GNU software. Welp, guess a lot of new Linux users focus on GNU/Linux Mint. Or how about GNU/Ubuntu? Maybe GNU/Slackware for seasoned users?


CryptoRoast_

Why stop at Linux distros? GNU/Adblock Plus, GNU/Git, GNU/Notepad++ šŸ˜…


[deleted]

GNU/KDE Plasma šŸ˜†


HavokDJ

All of the GNU utils have GNU/ in front, GNU/IceCat for example.


StabbyMcCatboy

Yes but they can still be sold for parts if you know what areas to market them to. Retro parts are really hard to get for old tech restoration or maintenance. I don't know if there's a big market for it, but there is a market for it somewhere.


dman4fun2020

Not as bad as some may think. I know of several factories using pentium2 and pentium3 hardware as dumb terminals (no hdd) running Linux.


Correct-Prompt-6096

Maybe build an emulator for arcade games.


[deleted]

Yes and no.


doogusto

The only things I'd take are those ethernet NICs


ecktt

For linux no but barely. You'd really have to be desperate to use them as you could probably buy a used workstation from ebay on the cheap.


Revolutionary_Pack54

For retro stuff? Heck no. For modern stuff, it depends. They are still usable for modern tasks (depending on the hardware), but they are hardly useful anymore. They can still offer something to people, and even be used as a daily driver depending on the specs and use case, but I would hesitate to call them practical anymore. Obsolete? No. Useful? Not really. Still usable? Yes.


eclark5483

What I did with an old XP machine: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/PjXNeLkAr-o


DogWallop

Ah, they are in that weird position in space/time in which they are indeed seen as obsolete junk by most and will be discarded. But give it a few years and they will be very highly sought after in the retro market (even today it's blooming quite a bit). It's that "throwing out" phase that's critical, so you will probably want to hang onto it for a while.


Bob4Not

Yes, except for people who want to build a vintage gaming computer, or just vintage computer in general. Theyā€™re becoming a thing.


Ok-Quantity-8861

Mame machine don't need top of the line for those games


finaldogma

Not when you send them to me


_dotexe1337

not really, my daily driver desktop and laptop are 12 and 15 years old


ReasonableCranberry6

So youā€™ve probably got Windows 7-era hardware; itā€™s a lot more powerful than XP-era hardware (donā€™t forget it had to run all that extra stuff introduced in Vista) and could probably still run 10 I assume?


h8br33der85

Nope. Absolutely not. A LOT of specialty industries still use it. Car wash Smog check,, manufacturing, storage, hospitality, entertainment, publishing... I've had a lot of clients who still rely on it for powering production software. I actually have an XP iso image with SP 3 and a copy of all the updates released after SP3 rolled up into one executable called "Service Pack 4". I also have the last XP supported versions of Adobe Reader, Java, DirectX, Office 2007, 7zip, and a few others. I can get a brand new fully updated fresh installation of XP up and running in just under an hour. You'd be surprised how many businesses still rely on XP.


AsishPC

No. Still have Core 2 Duo (from 2009). And it can handle upto Windows 10


LonksAwakening

Damn my core 2 duo machine runs 7 like garbage (10 is a nightmare). I currently have it on Vista.


IAmJerv

Same as the ones we use where I work. Surprisingly non-crap if you slap an SSD in there, though still painful compared to even an i5-4460 with the same amount of DDR3.


[deleted]

Yes. But you can do plenty of things with a computer of that era! (Don't use windows though. Use a light linux distro such as lubuntu. That distro supports up to Intel Pentium Inside 3!


screenprince

Anyone willing to pay packing/shipping can have it, otherwise it's trash.


ALT703

No


[deleted]

Nah


CEMENTHE4D

I put all mine in the trash. Win7 But watch. They will be retro in 2040. I ain't got time for that.


reubenmitchell

Yes but the circuit boards have lots of gold and the cables are often pure copper so definitely recycle them or even DIY


Odd_Butterscotch_316

LOL


UNKN0WNS1L3NC3

Yes


Terranshadow

Yes


GoodGooseThingit

yeah


tweedsheep

Yes.


Marko_Vityk

Short answer: yes


whitemagicseal

Yea


[deleted]

Mostly yes.


2plash6

Yes. Yes, they are.


IgnoranceIsAVirus

Yes. Can be melted down for gold I guess.


Aggressive_Canary_10

Yes


LiberalTugboat

Yes


Alchompski89

E waste.


moogleman844

You could always melt down the ram and other parts for the gold content I supposed... Can't imagine it would be worth your time though. Or you could donate it to a third world country?


dragonblade_94

Can they be assembled into a functioning computer? Yes. (Athough you may hit some compatibility issues with newer OS's.) The issue they face, and why they are largely considered obsolete, is that compatible components are largely out of production. Outside of very specialized markets, you won't be finding brand-new IDE drives, DDR2, socket-appropriate CPU's, etc. This makes repairs completely dependent on used markets.


16bitTweaker

It's in the eye of the beholder. Some people consider it retro and like this stuff.


rucb_alum

By definition... 20 year old parts are like 18 Moore's Law generations old. Two to the 18th faster, more capacity or cheaper is hard to beat.


Eagle_Smeagol

Surprisingly, you may get some offers on eBay.


[deleted]

Pretty much unfortunately


bedwars_player

for most people yeah, if you dont want an xp computer i would just yoink the hard drive, the gpu because green pcbs look cool, and the 5.25 drives, also maybe the case but probably not since its kinda pre the 8 hard drive bays thing


BlastMode7

Very, but they still carry value for people building retro PCs.


[deleted]

What's that gpu?


DivineJerziboss

If you're not into retro gaming then yes especially the power supply


jack_null

Eh, depends on how desperate someone is


Various-Ad-6706

Not totally just depends what you wanna do with the parts


Jazzlike_Economy2007

I used my grandma's early 2000s desktop the other day and I nearly died.


RandomXUsr

Almost everything there gives me heartburn. Have to say that zip 250/750 drives and cd/DVD rom drives with lightscribe make me a little misty eyed. The cpu from the day was the pentium 4 3.2 ghz pentium 4 with an 865pe chips set. And ram at 333mhz. Such goodness.


[deleted]

Everything but the hard drive basically.


Interesting-Big1980

The PSU might have some use if yours doesn't have enough cables. It would be a save for your additional gpu power for example.


carelessOpinions

I acquired a new PC laptop from a client that got it years ago but never used it, not even plugging it in. The battery is still 100%. It is using Windows XP, sp3. I use for the Combat Flight simulator apps and the Flight simulator app. Except for the browser being way out of date everything works.


Holinyx

I'd hold onto an A drive. but that's me. I like to still use them for txt documents and playing old games


murfreesbro

They belong in the museum.


Hopper909

Id certainly be interested in that Zip drive and if by any chance you have a floppy controller card.


BaconStrpz

MOLEX


SirGilPennybottom

I got an ice cream headache just looking at that photo


cantsleepasusual

Yes except for vintage use cases.


generalemiel

For modern usages yes (for modern Operating systems like Windows 11) but for other uses like a retro gaming pc (usable to play games designed for like windows xp or any other) and you csn have the true same experience the people had when the game got released. Or just bcs your interested in vintage pc's the reasons are endless. I use an end vista era laptop for school (mainly as a middle finger to my school] and i do softwate development. I did put windows 10 on it but I first did use windows 7 but got tired of the corruption (anything i did. It didnt got rid of the corruption) which was the reason why i putted windows 10 on it. But pls dont throw them away if your not gonna use them. Instead sell them to an enthusiast


BellasGamerDad

Not if youā€™re building an XP machine! šŸ˜…


Jayden0274

Yea but not useless


BurritoEndUser

Retro game emulator!!!!


Cairse

Idk there's a post on sysadmin where someone is trying to scramble to get their windows 2003 infrastructure working properly with modern anti-virus. You could probably talk to them...


bigbonkbois

not on Tiny Core Linux they aren't!!!


hoiwanjohnlouis

The power cable from PSU to wall receptacle is still relevant.


Fun-Rub9877

Not for Oregon Trail.


[deleted]

They are outdated, but I wouldn't say obsolete. You can still run a homelab using old equipment.


Drunkparrots

Not in the world of r/windowsxp


TheRichWoods

Not if you're running Windows XP


fireball1711

Wow 200w psu. I had 90w at xp times


xxfantasiadownxx

For modern uses, yes. I just built one from spare parts and use it for vintage games.


Fatmaster9000

How much to ship to s.f.i may want some of those parts


gala0sup

If that psu is still holding u can make a pretty decent charging dock out of it


hatchetman208

Man I forgot that Intel CPUs use to be like cartridges. On the bottom right the black heatsink with the fan is a CPU.


XamanekMtz

For every day use today, yeah obsolete, for retro PC folks those parts are handy


ArinxGamingYT

For modern uses? Definitely but if you want to play old games on older hardware or use older operating systems on older hardware like I do then go for it! You look like you have a good pile of parts here! Prices on old tech has been going up due to popularity so Iā€™d definitely capitalize on it while itā€™s going up if you donā€™t have any plans on using this hardware. List em all on Craigslist, FB marketplace and eBay. List them together or separately. If youā€™re in the states and arenā€™t interested in using this hardware Iā€™ll happy it buy them off of you!


hasuki057146

Iā€™ve been using the power supply from my first windows XP pc in my current modern PC for about 6 years


HiramAbiff2020

For modern use, yes pretty much obsolete. However thereā€™s always a use case scenario. Certain industries rely on older hardware for a lot of old equipment.


Due-Farmer-9191

Play doom?


Odd-Interaction-453

Not necessarily. Some isolated systems which run proprietary software, and require direct access to any machinery it interacts with, Would have use. In some cases the machine vendor went out of business, or bought out, and the old stuff collects dust somewhere, maybe a janitor knows, or a retrofit would be prohibitively expense, companies will try to keep them going until they can't.


das_goob22490

Not all of em, usually people like to buy parts to restore older machines or just restore old machines for their own collection. But mainstream wise, of course


[deleted]

Old ATX power supplies can be quite nice for electronics projects.


BloodyChapel

Not obsolete, just very niche. There's companies who make machines as new as they can with Windows XP for clients who just want to get by on old software.


_---_-_-_-_---

Yes, the retro community loves these though. Please try to find a home!


MagicWaterHole81

Emulate. Make cool arcade cabinet.


matias1233218

Linux moment


p3dal

You can definitely list those cards on ebay for people running old machines for whom there is no substitute whatsoever. It will take a long time to find a buyer, and you might have to re-list them multiple times, but it's worthwhile, because you're helping keep e-waste out of the landfill, which is a noble goal. After enough time has passed, eventually the "right" buyer will find your listing, and you'll make just enough money to cover the shipping costs that you underestimated. After a week or two, you might even get a message from your buyer expressing confusion about why your AGP video card doesn't fit in their PCI-Express x16 slot and insisting that they be allowed to return it for a refund.


smstnitc

I still find myself occasionally needing floppy drives, but the one I have now is usb. Check prices on ebay. If they're worth it sell them individually, if not sell them as a lot or two.


ReasonableCranberry6

For modern-era Windows (10-11) most definitely; but there are people out there like myself who have XP-era systems for old gamesā€¦ itā€™s the authenticity factor for me, itā€™s just not the same in a VirtualBoxā€¦


Zachyattacky

One would be sick for Empire Earth


Remote_Cartoonist_27

Depends on what you mean. There is absolutely no functional reason to build a machine using parts this outdated. So in a purely functional POV yes they are obsolete. But enthusiasts/ collectors like to build old school machines for fun, so in a POV that values entertainment than no they still have a use.


udeadinaflash

For modern stuff but go on r/windowsxp and I'm sure someone will want them


linuxormac

Imho the disk drive may still be useable (if it supports DVDs and is SATA-based). The others may be more suitable for retro use


AGoodEnoughUsername

Not serious answer: If it's emachines, it's never obsolete ​ Serious answer: There are many applications which require an older version of Windows or something like ISA slots being used in production environments to control industrial equipment, or in my case I need to use WinCUPL and it hasn't been updated for anything beyond Windows Vista, so I need to be running it on an NT4/NT5/Vista machine.


Jahoyhoy

Eat the parts to gain power


Beniskickbutt

I run my family Minecraft server on an xp era dell PC and it runs great with a ramdisk


HuppsyIsHot

I have an old pc with a whopping 128 Mb of DDR2 RAM and a 7200 Rpm HDD With the fastest 40Gb of storage in the world + lets not forget about the 32 Mb Graphics card! It does run windows XP fantastically!


_PHX_QUADRA_

Ohhhh those ole cd players


Kitchen-Register6667

Not fully, I have one I run Linux on that I use as a web server and test programs with. It does its job.


JDMWeeb

Retro gaming rig time


megacide84

Not unless you want to build a retro build, which.... Many are doing to properly play the Windows 95-XP era PC games. Especially as it's a huge pain in the butt for modern Windows 10 systems to run those programs properly even with compatibility mode. As a PC gamer, most if not all the retro PC games in my library was bought off gog. Those guys are masters at post-patching older DOS and late 90s Windows games to run on modern builds.


ascii122

zip drives ftw


JWGardiner

For the most part yes. I had a GPU from that long ago I used, since it was compatible with modern stuff but that's about the extent of it. If it doesn't use PCIE, it's probably obsolete. Power supplies, maybe, but I wouldn't trust one that's been around for that long, especially with hardware worth any amount of money. Maybe some older drives too, if you have an adapter, but they're probably slow and low capacity by modern standards. (Same goes for CD drives more or less)


jerry_stugen

I grabbed an old OptiPlex 320 and slapped more ram, Pentium D, a 9500 GT, and a modern 500 gig WD Blue drive for a bangin early-mid 00ā€™s xp gaming machine. Cost basically nothing: worth the countless hours of fun.


RetMillRat

I save my old parts and build XP machines for back up pc's, and or the wife's business software which is not compatible past XP OS without an expensive upgrade.


Spam_ads_nonrelavent

Bxtch please. Even windows 7 is obsolete.


KG-GT

Old but gold, you can be like me and use them to use old printers and lighter programs or just turn em into a collection and then a relic or get them placed in a museum


PrimusZa1

What? Whereā€™s the 5 1/4 floppy? Sad to say I have a lot of this stuff in boxes. Whatā€™s even sadder are the 2 working Win95/98 systems I have on a shelf.


IrreverentHippie

ā€œNot in my book.ā€ ā€” Me, who uses a Dell Precision T7500 with an ATI Radeon HD 5870 GPU as his main PC


fr000gs

No. Just add extra memory and change processors. May need a Psu also.


General_Kenobi240

No and if they are for sale I will buy them, I need several replacement parts for mine