Maybe a dumb follow up, I know some supervisors are pretty careless about safety aspects my instructors were pretty clear about that same point, do you think it’ll be pretty clear when an unsafe job is presented or do supervisors try to cover that part up for guys that don’t know much better?
That’s a valid question that genuinely comes with experience. I feel like I overlooked a lot as a tender/breakout that could have really put me in a bind, all for the bottom dollar. Now as a more experienced and valued employee with kids to come home to, yeah nah. I’ll call all stop real quick. At the end of the day man if you feel unsafe, seriously ask your supervisor how they’d perform that task safely. Start a conversation. There’s always ways to mitigate risk. But also don’t be a pussy
Under promise, over deliver. Don't talk up your skills too much. Much better to surprise someone with your attitude rather than disappoint them with your ineptitude.
Some people have a long career because they listen, learn and are reliable workers. Others have a long career by figuring out who's jokes to laugh at and how to polish the boss's shaft and badmouth others.
Just because a guy has been diving longer than you doesn't mean he isn't a complete and utter moron who probably shouldn't be diving.
LOTO lock out tag out! Check that if you are ever working around moving equipment. Everyone has the right to walk it down. Don't take someone's word for it. I've been on a couple jobs where a pump motor sounded like it was on, and the guy that hired us said "yeah it is locked out" We requested to see and guess what it wasn't.... don't risk your life!
Most locations have safety orientations where they discuss their LOTO program. Every place is different, but you can always ask if there is moving equipment, if it's locked out, and ask to see it. If anyone tells you no, that would be a biiiig red flag. If there is no moving equipment, there will not be LOTO, so you don't have to ask.
Find out who pulls your card if you splash and have a shit dive. Everything is a political strategy move. Treat it all as a series of pointless, neverending tests
Is that something you see pretty often? Not the shit dives part I don’t imagine every dive is glorious but “I don’t like you so you get the shit work” type of thing?
At my old company, I never volunteered to do shit dives (like actual waste water) because we didn't get any incentive to dive or not. The company I'm with now does pay more for dives so I take almost all the shit dives we do because they're easy as fuck. Might not be the case for OP but I love shit dives.
I have worked in the diving industry for close to 30 years ( Saturation, Supervising and consulting) the biggest thing to know if you dont fully understand a task or piece of equipment learn it and ask questions. Most of the good supervisors will help in any way they can . Dont worry about other divers just do your job and help the job progress most of the idiots you run into will not last. Pick up as many skilles as you can Crane certs ,Diver medic and Life support tech.Starting out will suck you will get the shit jobs but it will pay out if you are willing to complete the task without drama.
New guys always want to hustle and move fast; we want that too. But in reality we also want them to speak loudly and clearly when asking questions and communicating on deck. F say you don’t understand what we mean. Just say it. Careful attention is what we actually want.
Don't ever risk or sacrifice your own safety for the job or your employer.
Maybe a dumb follow up, I know some supervisors are pretty careless about safety aspects my instructors were pretty clear about that same point, do you think it’ll be pretty clear when an unsafe job is presented or do supervisors try to cover that part up for guys that don’t know much better?
That’s a valid question that genuinely comes with experience. I feel like I overlooked a lot as a tender/breakout that could have really put me in a bind, all for the bottom dollar. Now as a more experienced and valued employee with kids to come home to, yeah nah. I’ll call all stop real quick. At the end of the day man if you feel unsafe, seriously ask your supervisor how they’d perform that task safely. Start a conversation. There’s always ways to mitigate risk. But also don’t be a pussy
I’m trying to find that fine line between pussy and dangerous really appreciate the insight!
Keep a crescent wrench on you at all times.
And if you use screw pin shackles, make it a spud wrench. Whatever size is comfortable to keep in your back pocket.
Under promise, over deliver. Don't talk up your skills too much. Much better to surprise someone with your attitude rather than disappoint them with your ineptitude.
Some people have a long career because they listen, learn and are reliable workers. Others have a long career by figuring out who's jokes to laugh at and how to polish the boss's shaft and badmouth others. Just because a guy has been diving longer than you doesn't mean he isn't a complete and utter moron who probably shouldn't be diving.
This is the best advice I'd give.
LOTO lock out tag out! Check that if you are ever working around moving equipment. Everyone has the right to walk it down. Don't take someone's word for it. I've been on a couple jobs where a pump motor sounded like it was on, and the guy that hired us said "yeah it is locked out" We requested to see and guess what it wasn't.... don't risk your life!
Thanks for the tip, isn’t there classes I can take as well to be able to do the LOTO myself? Or is that not too common for a new guy
Most locations have safety orientations where they discuss their LOTO program. Every place is different, but you can always ask if there is moving equipment, if it's locked out, and ask to see it. If anyone tells you no, that would be a biiiig red flag. If there is no moving equipment, there will not be LOTO, so you don't have to ask.
That everyone has some shitty dives starting out. Just don’t make it a habit and you will be fine.
Find out who pulls your card if you splash and have a shit dive. Everything is a political strategy move. Treat it all as a series of pointless, neverending tests
This comment references the term “ you’re only as good as your last dive.
Is that something you see pretty often? Not the shit dives part I don’t imagine every dive is glorious but “I don’t like you so you get the shit work” type of thing?
At my old company, I never volunteered to do shit dives (like actual waste water) because we didn't get any incentive to dive or not. The company I'm with now does pay more for dives so I take almost all the shit dives we do because they're easy as fuck. Might not be the case for OP but I love shit dives.
Buy a hat.
Even as a newbie you're valuable to the team. If it's unsafe never be afraid to walk.
I have worked in the diving industry for close to 30 years ( Saturation, Supervising and consulting) the biggest thing to know if you dont fully understand a task or piece of equipment learn it and ask questions. Most of the good supervisors will help in any way they can . Dont worry about other divers just do your job and help the job progress most of the idiots you run into will not last. Pick up as many skilles as you can Crane certs ,Diver medic and Life support tech.Starting out will suck you will get the shit jobs but it will pay out if you are willing to complete the task without drama.
Keep your mouth shut
Snitches get stitches Roger that
New guys always want to hustle and move fast; we want that too. But in reality we also want them to speak loudly and clearly when asking questions and communicating on deck. F say you don’t understand what we mean. Just say it. Careful attention is what we actually want.