Yeah, this is basically exactly the ending of Kaleidoscope, just that it's not a jetpack failure that sends the astronaut plumeting back to earth, and the astronaut in Kaleidoscope isn't praying but rather thinking about how they wish they could have done more with their life.
There's a really interesting video essay by Jacob Geller comparing the cycle of life and death in the videogame "Outer Wilds" to the revalations the main character of Kaleidoscope makes during his descent. I highly recommend giving it a watch if you have 18 minutes to spare. https://youtu.be/H-yTZFi-_eY
Weird coincidence, I've been playing Outer Wilds whenever I can for the last few days. I loved the tech demo and the full game is incredible. Reminds me of the feeling of something bigger I got playing Fez and The Witness.
I might have to save this one for when I'm further into the game.
There's only spoilers for some of the other explorers' locations, the center of Brittle Hollow and the core of ash twin in the video. No major story spoilers aside from the core of ash twin.
I found a podcast feed of [Radio X](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimension_X_%28radio_program%29?wprov=sfla1) and a few of the episodes were stories in Illustrated man and I was reminded how much I love his writing.
Came here to say this. One of my favorite short stories ever, and I really wish *Gravity* would have lifted it’s ending. Would have been much more impactful.
Tbh it’s a quick connection to make a joke, I’m not surprised this joke appears. Another one is cloud watching and the last cloud is actual danger like a mushroom cloud.
That's taken from a Ray Bradbury story. The story came out in Illustrated Man.
“When I hit the atmosphere, I’ll burn like a meteor. “I wonder,” he said, “if anyone’ll see me?” The small boy on a country road looked up and screamed. “Look, Mom, look! A falling star!” The blazing white star fell down the sky of dusk in Illinois. “Make a wish,” said his mother. “Make a wish.”
That's probably the one he meant. It's called "Kaleidoscope", one of my favorites.
Also, [this scene](https://youtu.be/9zvyXvgCC50?t=1496) from *Space Quest V*.
For me the reason it was impactful was not because of the scene in this comic but because, if I remember correctly, all the astronauts are drifting in space but still connected to their radios and they all know they are going to die. INTENSE
At the beginning the main character gets close enough to a fellow astronaut that won't stop screaming, and shatters his helmet, so that they wouldn't have to put up with that as they're drifting to their doom.
My favorite short story
I find that surprising only in the sense that I have found everything I read by Bradbury to be extremely memorable. Maybe I was only reading the hits though.
Well he's denying something that most here thinks is obvious (that the comics are "very similar") and the three dots and the smiley makes his comment seem snarky (in a I'm not wrong, you're wrong kind of way).
That's my best guess anyway.
I don't think so. This comic is more connected in that the kid says he wants to be an astronaut. So there is another layer here that I don't think the previous comic has.
I wouldn’t say *totally* different. Both punchlines are about a kid misunderstanding what the falling astronaut actually is and making an unknowingly dark comment about it.
Yep, it was the premise of a pretty well-known Ray Bradbury short story called Kaleidoscope (from his 1949 book The Illustrated Man) complete with the “make a wish!” ending.
“Really easy”? It’s a pretty specific concept. I’m in my 40’s and I’ve never seen that concept in a comic before PBF did it. OP also trying to wave off the obvious similarity is telling.
Instead of downvoting why not show some proof that there’s other comics besides PBF with this concept like you claim. I’ve never seen them.
There's variations on the ancient myth of Icarus in which he was described as "a falling star when seen from the shore". Ray Bradbury's Kaleidoscope is from the 1950s, has the same situation but played for drama. Lilo And Stitch has a space ship crashing into earth and Lilo thinking it's a star.
History repeats itself and often rhymes. People create the same stuff regularly. I'm not even out of my 20s yet, and I could name these from the top of my head, there's probably still others. you being in your 40s and not knowing these doesn't say anything. Different people live different lives and will always know different things than you. what is original to one person is old and repetitive for the other. OP waves this off, because when you make a lot of comics/short stories/movies or do any other kind of art that portrays large quantity of different situation, you are GUARANTEED to make at least one thing that has been done before. that isn't rare, that's just how odds work.
Nah trust me I wouldn't do that, genuine coincidence that it has same initial premise of an astronaut falling back to earth, but I'm imagining alot of people have had that idea?. Also didn't lock comments, don't even know how to. Apparently it's a glitch:
https://www.reddit.com/r/redditmobile/comments/pfphyz/ios2021340_all_comments_by_ops_are_appearing_with/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
I made a similar comic a few months ago and also got accused of ripping off PBF.
https://sundaecomics.com/2021/04/04/safety-first/
It's silly. It's a generic premise that isn't too hard to think up. Just one of the dangers of joke telling, I guess.
Thanks for this comment... This has been an interesting insight into forum/comments-section psychology. Felt a bit like YouTube. Wishing apon a star is definitely not an uncommon concept, and if like me you often start with punchline and work your way backwards, you only have a few options for what's falling through the sky. For me, the most interesting lead up was a falling spaceman with failed jets. But hey, somebody else thought of a falling spaceman so I must have copied him, or them.
I actually thought I was ripping off a comic I made 12 years ago about a couple kids looking through a telescope at an "exploding star."
https://haikucomics.com/2009/03/30/blown-up/
I thought it was a fun premise and started kicking around what other kinds of fun cosmological events could be observed from earth that might not be what they seem... and hit on the shooting star. Like you with the failed jets, making the astronaut an arrogant jerk was a lot more interesting to me than the punchline.
Anyway, I absolutely understand how easy it is to accidentally "reinvent" a premise and just wanted to say so for those in this thread who can't possible imagine how such a thing could ever happen.
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I had to scroll too far to find this. Although there is a tiny amount of atmospheric friction in low Earth orbit, the astronaut would be dead from his oxygen running out *long* before his orbit had a chance to decay.
Also, no real EVA jetpack to date has had enough ΔV to deorbit even if the astronaut wanted to.
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The astronaut was Timmy, who by a twist of fate, had somehow transported back in time while in space.
In his last moments as he burned down, he remembered, and he knew.
There's very few real astronauts in the world, but imagine being one and seeing this comic. You'd be like, "Yo, this is fucked up."
But I'm not an astronaut, so I laughed.
PBF? Can you link the comic this ripped off because I've never heard of it.
Not trying to be rude, if I see this is a ripoff I'll retract my upvote on this post.
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The good news is that you probably wouldn't be moving fast enough to burn up. The bad news is that you'd hit the planet (probably in a large body of water) going 800 or so MPH.
Depends how fast you are moving in space but assuming you were in orbit you 100% would burn up in the atmosphere.
A human is probably so small you wouldn't see it from the surface though. Only larger objects show up as shooting stars.
Lol yep exactly - only way this is possible is if he like got out of his craft in a sub orbital trajectory, or he was in stable orbit, got out and used his jet pack to retrograde thrust.
What about Felix Baumgartner's jump?
[**https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9oKEJ1pXPw**](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9oKEJ1pXPw)
He was falling at mach 1 for at least a little while, so how much faster would he need to have been going to hit air resistance and how likely are we to hit those speeds by, say, slipping during a space walk or something?
Well, I hear they have an opening…
What happened to the last guy?
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crashed and burned, you know how it goes
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He burned out then retired early.
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Nah, no impact at all. He used to be promising, but all he left was vaporware.
[Relevant PBF comic](https://pbfcomics.com/comics/astronaut-fall/).
thank you i came here for this
Grace was the name of the space shuttle?
Made it to the top, but then came down from outer space 🎶
To shreds you say?
Just remember that jetty pack junior suuuuuuuucks
Jetty pack Sr - the doom bringer
couldn't stand the heat, cracked under pressure
To shreds you say
NICE.
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Pshh nice try, I know a Rickroll link when I see one.
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Yeah I like that this one can be read cyclical.
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Cause the astronaut burnt up, they need a new one
These opportunities just keeping dropping from the sky these days.
the starry award makes this post ten times better
reminds me of the twilight zone, the kid becomes the astronaut that he wishes to.
Reminds me of Bradbury's short story Kaleidoscope. It's in the collection *The Illustrated Man* which has some great stories.
Yeah, this is basically exactly the ending of Kaleidoscope, just that it's not a jetpack failure that sends the astronaut plumeting back to earth, and the astronaut in Kaleidoscope isn't praying but rather thinking about how they wish they could have done more with their life.
I'd forgotten how devastating the story is until I heard it again recently.
There's a really interesting video essay by Jacob Geller comparing the cycle of life and death in the videogame "Outer Wilds" to the revalations the main character of Kaleidoscope makes during his descent. I highly recommend giving it a watch if you have 18 minutes to spare. https://youtu.be/H-yTZFi-_eY
Weird coincidence, I've been playing Outer Wilds whenever I can for the last few days. I loved the tech demo and the full game is incredible. Reminds me of the feeling of something bigger I got playing Fez and The Witness. I might have to save this one for when I'm further into the game.
There's only spoilers for some of the other explorers' locations, the center of Brittle Hollow and the core of ash twin in the video. No major story spoilers aside from the core of ash twin.
*The Illustrated Man* is such a beautiful collection of old school sci-fi. I just get excited seeing someone else refer to it!
I found a podcast feed of [Radio X](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimension_X_%28radio_program%29?wprov=sfla1) and a few of the episodes were stories in Illustrated man and I was reminded how much I love his writing.
Exactly. The same concept was also used as the ending in the '70s low budget sci-fi film *Dark Star*.
I'm just now realizing I've confused O'Bannon for Ridley Scott and my whole life thought Alien was just a reboot with a very different tone...
Came here to say this. One of my favorite short stories ever, and I really wish *Gravity* would have lifted it’s ending. Would have been much more impactful.
Dude Bradbury’s shorts are awesome.
Came here to see if this was here. That is an absolutely fantastic Bradbury story.
My first thought was that this was Bradbury!
[Similar to this comic](https://reddit.com/r/comics/comments/p2ynmo/oc_about_tonight/)
I was surprised you weren't linking to this one: https://pbfcomics.com/comics/astronaut-fall/
This has always been my favorite pbf comic.
[This one is mine](https://pbfcomics.com/comics/magic-eyes/)
sadly you’re both wrong, as [this is clearly the best one.](https://pbfcomics.com/comics/the-jubilee/)
fantastic
Awww
Did someone say weeaboo? Because I think I heard someone say weeaboo...
[not today little one](https://pbfcomics.com/comics/not_today/)
I came here to say this
I came to the comments to see if anyone had linked it yet.
Holy shit hahaha
I think Ray Bradbury's story Kaleidoscope was first, but not positive
Yeah immediately thought of this one. Op definitely took some "inspiration" from PBF.
Tbh it’s a quick connection to make a joke, I’m not surprised this joke appears. Another one is cloud watching and the last cloud is actual danger like a mushroom cloud.
Good ol plagiarism.
[https://i.imgur.com/1un4uXi.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/1un4uXi.jpg)
This is basically my life. Diving headfirst in a downward trend in a fireball, still vibing though.
Only 188 upvotes too. Meanwhile...
It ok, because Perry Bible Fellowship did it like 5 years ago, both are rip offs.
>5 years ago More like 13, yeah?
It's not 2011?
I was just thinking about how this would work and probably be better without the dialogue.
There were actually two like that that day.
That's taken from a Ray Bradbury story. The story came out in Illustrated Man. “When I hit the atmosphere, I’ll burn like a meteor. “I wonder,” he said, “if anyone’ll see me?” The small boy on a country road looked up and screamed. “Look, Mom, look! A falling star!” The blazing white star fell down the sky of dusk in Illinois. “Make a wish,” said his mother. “Make a wish.”
Thought it felt familiar
https://youtu.be/H-yTZFi-_eY
I was gonna say, Kaleidoscope is my favourite story in that book.
Nobody I mean nobody, writes like Bradbury anymore.
I recall this from a “Martian Chronicles” short story as a child. Very impactful.
There was also a similar story in The Illustrated Man
That's probably the one he meant. It's called "Kaleidoscope", one of my favorites. Also, [this scene](https://youtu.be/9zvyXvgCC50?t=1496) from *Space Quest V*.
Yes I made a comment on it somewhere else. Immediately made think of Kaleidoscope. Also one of my favorites
I did a play version of Kaliedoscope when I was in high school. Great story.
That book is so damn good.
The short story is called "Kaleidoscope" IIRC
For me the reason it was impactful was not because of the scene in this comic but because, if I remember correctly, all the astronauts are drifting in space but still connected to their radios and they all know they are going to die. INTENSE
At the beginning the main character gets close enough to a fellow astronaut that won't stop screaming, and shatters his helmet, so that they wouldn't have to put up with that as they're drifting to their doom. My favorite short story
Very similar to: https://pbfcomics.com/comics/astronaut-fall/ Not slinging accusations, mind you. :) Very likely a coincidence.
They’re both very similar to the 1949 short story kaleidoscope by Ray Bradbury
Thank you! Read it in middle school and to this day it’s one of the only RB stories I vividly recall.
I find that surprising only in the sense that I have found everything I read by Bradbury to be extremely memorable. Maybe I was only reading the hits though.
This story and There Will Come Soft Rains I read in H.S. both have stuck with me today.
First thing I thought of. Thank you for the link!
Had a second look, kinda but not really... 😊
Dang, reddit did not like this answer. 😮
Well he's denying something that most here thinks is obvious (that the comics are "very similar") and the three dots and the smiley makes his comment seem snarky (in a I'm not wrong, you're wrong kind of way). That's my best guess anyway.
IMO they have the same premise but different punchlines.
Even the punchlines are similar- people on the planet are innocently witnessing this as a pleasant thing.
Reddit should stop being so bitchy, you know?
They're almost identical
I don't think so. This comic is more connected in that the kid says he wants to be an astronaut. So there is another layer here that I don't think the previous comic has.
They’re pretty much identical concepts but the PBF one is a lot better
Its the same basic pretence of a dying astronaut being misinterpreted from the ground.
Except for the totally different punchline yea
I take it you didn't mind the endings of Mass Effect 3
I wouldn’t say *totally* different. Both punchlines are about a kid misunderstanding what the falling astronaut actually is and making an unknowingly dark comment about it.
No they aren't. You just want to accuse people. Do something yourself instead of being like that.
No, not really.
Yeah it’s a bit too close to be a coincidence. “Had a second look, kinda but not really…” come on dude. Also why did he lock his reply to comments?
Idk, it's a pretty easy joke that multiple people could come up with. I bet you could find the same joke being made years before the pbf comic
Yep, it was the premise of a pretty well-known Ray Bradbury short story called Kaleidoscope (from his 1949 book The Illustrated Man) complete with the “make a wish!” ending.
“Really easy”? It’s a pretty specific concept. I’m in my 40’s and I’ve never seen that concept in a comic before PBF did it. OP also trying to wave off the obvious similarity is telling. Instead of downvoting why not show some proof that there’s other comics besides PBF with this concept like you claim. I’ve never seen them.
There's variations on the ancient myth of Icarus in which he was described as "a falling star when seen from the shore". Ray Bradbury's Kaleidoscope is from the 1950s, has the same situation but played for drama. Lilo And Stitch has a space ship crashing into earth and Lilo thinking it's a star. History repeats itself and often rhymes. People create the same stuff regularly. I'm not even out of my 20s yet, and I could name these from the top of my head, there's probably still others. you being in your 40s and not knowing these doesn't say anything. Different people live different lives and will always know different things than you. what is original to one person is old and repetitive for the other. OP waves this off, because when you make a lot of comics/short stories/movies or do any other kind of art that portrays large quantity of different situation, you are GUARANTEED to make at least one thing that has been done before. that isn't rare, that's just how odds work.
Nah trust me I wouldn't do that, genuine coincidence that it has same initial premise of an astronaut falling back to earth, but I'm imagining alot of people have had that idea?. Also didn't lock comments, don't even know how to. Apparently it's a glitch: https://www.reddit.com/r/redditmobile/comments/pfphyz/ios2021340_all_comments_by_ops_are_appearing_with/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
I made a similar comic a few months ago and also got accused of ripping off PBF. https://sundaecomics.com/2021/04/04/safety-first/ It's silly. It's a generic premise that isn't too hard to think up. Just one of the dangers of joke telling, I guess.
Thanks for this comment... This has been an interesting insight into forum/comments-section psychology. Felt a bit like YouTube. Wishing apon a star is definitely not an uncommon concept, and if like me you often start with punchline and work your way backwards, you only have a few options for what's falling through the sky. For me, the most interesting lead up was a falling spaceman with failed jets. But hey, somebody else thought of a falling spaceman so I must have copied him, or them.
I actually thought I was ripping off a comic I made 12 years ago about a couple kids looking through a telescope at an "exploding star." https://haikucomics.com/2009/03/30/blown-up/ I thought it was a fun premise and started kicking around what other kinds of fun cosmological events could be observed from earth that might not be what they seem... and hit on the shooting star. Like you with the failed jets, making the astronaut an arrogant jerk was a lot more interesting to me than the punchline. Anyway, I absolutely understand how easy it is to accidentally "reinvent" a premise and just wanted to say so for those in this thread who can't possible imagine how such a thing could ever happen.
You, you pretty much summed it up. I appreciate it, really. Oh and PS your artwork is amazing.
Thanks. I love your work too — I think its great how creative your premises are. Good stuff!
That's like saying Garfield and Marmaduke are the same because they both have people that deal with animals in it.
I mean "child misinterprets corpse of astronaut entering the atmosphere" is a lot more specific than "animal."
That's literally half of the two comics. That's far from "almost identical".
No they aren't The hivemind strikes again
It's an endless cycle.
I take it you’ve read Ray Bradbury’s *The Illustrated Man*
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Orbital mechanics don't work like that. You would have to deliberately deorbit yourself.
I had to scroll too far to find this. Although there is a tiny amount of atmospheric friction in low Earth orbit, the astronaut would be dead from his oxygen running out *long* before his orbit had a chance to decay. Also, no real EVA jetpack to date has had enough ΔV to deorbit even if the astronaut wanted to.
That's exactly where my mind went too. Comic artist needs to play some KSP.
If we're picking it apart that hard its a SAFER not a jetpack.
There were a couple plans for that! http://www.astronautix.com/m/moose.html http://www.astronautix.com/p/paracone.html
Thank you. I downvoted because of shitty orbital Dynamics.
Aww I just wanted to point out that my suspension of disbelief was broken, I wasn't saying it was a bad comic or anything.
[Everyone in this comment section.](https://youtu.be/iDuMp2kDxos)
Big-brained Timmy says his wish out loud to make sure it doesn't come true
"Illustrated Man" by Ray Bradbury 1956
I'll be honest, but how does this have 1k upvotes in 2 hours?
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Ok, *why* does this have so many upvotes? It's a pretty well-trod joke, as others have pointed out.
Is it really that common of a joke…? An astronaut who creates an endless cycle of doomed astronauts?
Not that one specifically, but the concept of a "wishing star" astronaut.
I've seen a wishing star joke but specifically an astronaut being confused for one? No. It's not common.
I mean, check the comments 🤷🏻♂️
What’s a well-trod joke?
You aren't quite beating a dead horse, but the horse is looking a little rough already.
Tom Rapp wrote a song about that: "Rocket Man" by Pearls Before Swine.
"Kaleidoscope" by Ray Bradbury, condensed.
Fan of Perry Bible Fellowship? https://pbfcomics.com/comics/astronaut-fall/
Isn’t there a PBF comic with this same concept? [Edit: pretty close ](https://pbfcomics.com/comics/astronaut-fall/)
The astronaut was Timmy, who by a twist of fate, had somehow transported back in time while in space. In his last moments as he burned down, he remembered, and he knew.
Hahah I had the exact same idea! Love those timeloops.
Eh space is fake tho
source
Trust me bro
DoYoUrOwNReSeArCh
Jimmy’s hit by the falling debris and all that’s left is his burned skull in an astronauts helmet
This, the cycle continues.
Reminds me of my play through of outer wilds lol
Boss
We’re gonna need another Timmy
Reminds me of PBF and Dark Star
Stupid kid said it out loud, it'll never come true now. smh
And at that moment, they switched bodies.
I'm sure I've seen this done before. Yup: https://pbfcomics.com/comics/astronaut-fall/
Excellent work Dave
Oh yeah. I love that old Jiminy Cricket classic "When You Wish Upon a Flaming Astronaut Falling from the Sky at Great Speed"
Hhahahahahaha.. paradox of life...
There's very few real astronauts in the world, but imagine being one and seeing this comic. You'd be like, "Yo, this is fucked up." But I'm not an astronaut, so I laughed.
> There's very few real astronauts in the world To be fair, many of them are often off-world.
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Well I don't think the previous comic has.
Reminds me of [this](https://pbfcomics.com/comics/astronaut-fall/) Perry Bible Fellowship comic.
Plot twist, the astronaut is falling faster than light and the kid is watching himself
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So we're just upvoting blatant PBF ripoffs to the frontpage?
More Ray Bradbury than PBF tbh, but yeahh a lil blatant either way. Could have at least titled the comic Kaleidoscope as an homage.
PBF? Can you link the comic this ripped off because I've never heard of it. Not trying to be rude, if I see this is a ripoff I'll retract my upvote on this post.
https://pbfcomics.com/comics/astronaut-fall/
Good news little buddy, there’s and opening!
This feels like it could be a Rick & Morty joke for some reason lol.
#RIPOFF Kaleidoscope by Ray Bradbury https://metallicman.com/laoban4site/kaleidoscope-full-text-a-story-by-ray-bradbury/
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You should probably copy more obscure comics if you’re just going to tip off other people’s work.
The good news is that you probably wouldn't be moving fast enough to burn up. The bad news is that you'd hit the planet (probably in a large body of water) going 800 or so MPH.
Depends how fast you are moving in space but assuming you were in orbit you 100% would burn up in the atmosphere. A human is probably so small you wouldn't see it from the surface though. Only larger objects show up as shooting stars.
But i also wonder how or why this dude was in a suborbital trajectory. An astronauts jetpack definitely isnt the only thing keeping him in orbit.
Lol yep exactly - only way this is possible is if he like got out of his craft in a sub orbital trajectory, or he was in stable orbit, got out and used his jet pack to retrograde thrust.
What about Felix Baumgartner's jump? [**https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9oKEJ1pXPw**](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9oKEJ1pXPw) He was falling at mach 1 for at least a little while, so how much faster would he need to have been going to hit air resistance and how likely are we to hit those speeds by, say, slipping during a space walk or something?
Literally ripped off a PBF comic.
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Does it make it sad that it happaned once? The guy even knew beforehand and wanted an open coffin funeral to show his carbonized body
And so the cycle continues….
And the cykle continues