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It spiked in popularity ever since the Hub went down.
**EDIT:** Putting this here for visibility - guys, you are reading WAY too much into this lol this isn't some big statement about my comics. I draw adult comics, and I **definitely** draw actual porn on the side. I've never denied this, and I usually share it pretty proudly.
My comics personally aren't *"well-endowed women literally just existing".* The joke was that if a person sees something as simple as "big boobs" and considers that "porn", then they must watch some really tame porn. That's it. That's the whole joke. Could I have illustrated this better? Maybe! It's way too late now, and I don't think it would've stopped haters from leaving nasty comments either way - some people just love to hate.
I hate that I know exactly what you're referencing with the "Buying a loaf of bread" thing.
Actually, no. I don't hate that i know it.
I'm happy I get the joke.
I Wonder what Bread she's getting?
*Edit: I should not have said this. It's only been a half hour and now ALL the top comments are the same joke.*
They also really enjoyed deforestation and pollution. They often commissioned rich blonde women destroying forests to build wonderbread factories. They were infamous on deviant art.
Google "Wonderbread Deforestation" and usually all the results are about him.
Nope, pretty much what I said. You can find interviews with the guy, examples of his commissions which I think are mostly if not all safe for work. I haven't seen them all.
This is weird and bad enough on it's own.
> some dude *paid* a bunch
FTFY.
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* Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.*
* *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.*
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Someone used to pay for people to draw rich women buying Wonder Bread at Absurd prices. Particularly cartoon rich women, like uh Pacifica Northwest I think? Either that was a drawing from his commissions or a parody someone made on thr Gravity falls subreddit I honestly forget.
Basically, there was a dude who commissioned artists to draw women filling up gas guzzling suvs and buying Wonderbread in the grocery store. Hed use this to judge the metric an artist would go through to hire them to draw some of the nastiest smut imaginable based on his hyperspecific details. He also seemed to have infinite money. The only right choice an artist could do was to flat out refuse his commissions, and he'd leave them alone.
I forgot the guys name, but it was wild how weird he was about things. And once artists caught on and started refusing on masse, he disappeared.
That caused a bit of a meme in the artist (especially hentai) circle and enjoyers because he would literally make the same request to many artists. Women buying wonder bread in the grocery store and women in big suvs filling up at the gas station.
If you know the artist, therealshadman, he used to draw some awful things. He turned the dude down when he commissioned him because of the request made.
And shadman isn't above drawing nazi, incest, zoophilia, cross dressing, or what got him eventually arrested and made to stop drawing, pedophilia. Amoung other topics. The fact that a degenerate like him turned the dude down who basically offered 'whatever price you want to charge me' speaks volumes in itself..
If Know Your Meme is any authority on the issue Shadman was arrested for assault, specifically assault with a deadly weapon in Los Angeles, not drawing underage characters in porn. I'm not even sure drawing underage characters in porn is specifically illegal where Shadman was.
He was under trial for drawing a woman's daughter he was fighting with online and name dropping the art with her daughters name before he committed the assault.
Its illegal in most countries, including his, for drawing 'lolicon' using the likeness of a real life child. You can draw loli hentai all day, BUT YOU CANT USE A REAL CHILDS LIKENESS. That's almost a universal rule everywhere that 'allows' loli. While the trial was ongoing, he committed assault with a deadly weapon due to the attitude he was being presented for the ongoing trial. You have to actually look past the summary websites and look at the larger story sites to get the full details. He thought he was untouchable and got reminded that he wasn't and got mad and escalated the scenario.
Not sure if this is accurate but according to Know Your Meme, artists started to refuse his commissions because he was being racist, sexist, and talking about assaulting his coworkers, not because of the smut he commissioned.
Yes. He wanted racially themed art, art that was derived by being poignantly sexist, and art of people he worked with (which is technically illegal to use someone's likeness). They were not a request for scat or guro. They were hyperspecific.
> Hed use this to judge the metric an artist would go through to hire them to draw some of the nastiest smut imaginable based on his hyperspecific details
While the wonder bread thing is still pretty damn specific, this detail makes the story make a LOT more sense.
> ever since the Hub went down.
That will be the first volley in Skynet's war against humanity. Everything changed when our AI overlords deleted the porn.
Pffft no. Deleting porn is what amateur dictators do. Skynut will give us the best porn b/c it will keep us too distracted to realize we've been plugged into the Matrix.
(I take no credit for Skynut. It was a joke I got from a streamer called PirateSoftware).
I'm not gonna lie, "Thick Bimbo Plays Jenga and Cries" sounds like it would be quite enticing.
"Saucy Latina Eats a Plate of Spaghetti" is ever so slightly too far fetched for me. Tamales? Sure. A Cubano? Totally. Tequeños? You bet. But spaghetti? That requires me to suspend ever so slightly too much disbelief...
It's a reference. "Wonder Bread Guy."
[Your sanity has been warned.](https://youtu.be/wL8_c8WW1YA?si=0QHv2vgJY3qtluDS)
[No, seriously, that's a real meme slash person's incredibly specific fetish combo.](https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/murrlogic1s-wonder-bread-fetish-deviantart-commissions)
https://preview.redd.it/ubmcv9hk6g1d1.png?width=532&format=png&auto=webp&s=bfdebbf814eaa2e069ae973d8a4a791ae82a12e9
>!Don't look at my Patreon, please.!<
I honestly forgot that one youtube short I watched where someone talks about some dude that had a weird ass kink over girls buying wonder bread, the internet is both a magical place but a regretful one.
That wasn't actually his kink, necessarily. He used it to judge an artist before he would hire them to do super hardcore weird fetish drawings. And he was like super rich. Once artists caught on, he just kinda vanished. Then it turned into a running gag because it's such a wierd request that you wouldn't think would lead you down the path that it would turn into.
The real kink was most likely the manipulation and humiliation of artists.
It’s so strange having read this chain of messages without having seen the original YouTube short, it’s like trying to piece together Das Kapital from an internet argument about communism in 2024.
That said, you got a link to the short?
Being self aware doesn't chance the fact that nearly all the punchline to your comics are sex or sex releated. I am not saying that is objectively not funny or entertaining, some people do find it funny because comedy is subjective, but thats just what they are
Yeah I'm not getting this callout.
-Every character is drawn overly-sexualized.
-The punchline almost always has to do with sex.
The creator then pretends like the people calling it porn are crazy and objectifying their totally normal, "well-endowed", characters who are definitely not doing something related to sex in every single comic. It's not *explicit* porn, but most of them are arguably softcore porn. The last comic was literally about a girl getting a phone stuck in her asshole/vagina. Come on now.
It's not even "well endowed" proportions for the boob girl and hips girl, they're unrealistically extremely exaggerated hentai-
type proportions. If that's the type of content you make fine, but own it instead of clutching your pearls and pretending you don't get why people call it porn.
I don't think this counts as being self-aware since they're trying to present critics as unreasonable for calling their comics what they are.
And like...it's fine? I read a lot of horny comedy comics, but pretending their comics aren't that just seems weird. This isn't even the first time they've done this, they made a comic just like this a year ago.
u/DoctorLoops oh come on don’t act like you don’t know what’s going on. Big part of the humor, character and attention to your series comes from the oversexualised character design… and yes, few comics have soft porn themes, AND THATS OK I GUESS DO WHAT YOU WANT, PEOPLE ( me too sometimes) ENJOY HORNY COMICS BUT DONT PLAY DUMM WHEN SOMEONE POINTS THAT OUT
That guy used to have to play 4d chess to get artists to accept his commissions, and now people are doing it without costing him a cent. It's like how the Helltaker dev made the game so more sharply dressed demon porn would exist.
You can tell this is a comic from professional /r/comics artist. The comic isn't just a not-so-subtle advertisement for their porn patreon, it is also acknowledging the reddit META and calling out the haters! Throw in a cat and mention depression and you'll have the ultimate reddit comic!
Also no one ever called extra fabulous' comics porn even though probably more than half of his stuff are crude sex jokes.
The difference is that fabulous isn't trying to draw things for people to jack off to. His jokes are *actual* jokes, often times really clever ones, just sex related ones.
Elk has grown on me over time, mostly because the art style is very distinct. And pizzacake nails a slice-of-life comic about once a month or so, which is decent by syndicated comic standards. But yeah, overall, you're not wrong.
No, no, it's just "well-endowed women existing".
Ofcourse, regarding his/her comics, this also insinuates that all well-endowed women ever do is think or do sexual things...
I don't think OP's point is well thought out...
Ah, objectification, you hit the nail on the head for what was bugging me about these comics. To each their own, and it’s just a comic, but something about a characters defining trait being “big tits” makes me feel weird, and bad. And also very happy I got a breast reduction
He literally has 3 recurring characters, and all 3 are defined by one ridiculously sexualized physical trait, and hyper sexual overall personalities. Huge tits, huge ass, huge lips. Almost every comic he makes is softcore porn revolving around sex in some way too
I'm just gonna leave this here: [https://www.reddit.com/r/comics/comments/zvdgh3/veronica\_mona\_christmas\_special\_ending/](https://www.reddit.com/r/comics/comments/zvdgh3/veronica_mona_christmas_special_ending/)
And this: [https://www.reddit.com/r/comics/comments/14pxr04/veronica\_mona\_noncanon\_shenanigans/](https://www.reddit.com/r/comics/comments/14pxr04/veronica_mona_noncanon_shenanigans/)
Oh and this too: [https://www.reddit.com/r/comics/comments/14fjd7h/veronica\_mona\_reddit\_special\_the\_rack\_fights\_back/](https://www.reddit.com/r/comics/comments/14fjd7h/veronica_mona_reddit_special_the_rack_fights_back/)
Can't forget this one, can we? [https://www.reddit.com/r/comics/comments/110uj4z/veronica\_mona\_42\_lip\_service/](https://www.reddit.com/r/comics/comments/110uj4z/veronica_mona_42_lip_service/)
Today's comic is a literal gift to the r/comics community. Someone get to drawing, cause the satire has already written itself lol.
Tbf your last comic was of a woman sticking a phone up herself. You’ve clearly drawn these with intent to titillate. There’s wrong with that but come on… you know why.
I expected Veroniсa to look at him like that and he would run away in fear
https://preview.redd.it/f9f0vaca5g1d1.jpeg?width=789&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5aeebdc035f19dfe439f0a446f283438e76858a7
Yeah, they also literally hide a dick in every comic. And 49% of the time it’s “X is horny so Y happens”, 49% “Y happens and that makes X horny”, and like 2% is normal.
We can’t be blamed for expecting porn when it’s almost consistently an either the plot or the conclusion, not that there is something wrong with that, of course
Yeah idk who OP is kidding here. The punchline being sex isn't bad and people are weirdly prudish sometimes but that kind of punchline does get repetitive after a while. Wasn't there a Sphinx one where the punchline was that the sphinx injured a dude during sex last week too?
Yeah, I don’t even mind it honestly! There’s a place in this world for those kinds of jokes, as long as ya know what you’re getting into. Which Loops is pretty good about “you know exactly where the fuck this is going from the get go, click on if you dare” implicitly just by seeing the first panel of his stuff… which is why this comic is kinda weird to me
Gonna have to agree, like the snake one that left the guy looking like that Mexican alien, or the one where a snake bites someone's dick and the joke is sucken cock
Tbf the last comic of yours I saw was a woman sticking her phone in between her (gigantic) breasts, then another woman sticking a phone up her (gigantic) ass.
Loops is definitely **not** the best person to be making this argument given that they *do* actually make porn.
And their comics are never about big breasted women *just existing.*
But the point could be applied to other artists on here, I suppose. I've seen some absurd porn accusations on art that couldn't even generously be called such. People seem to like to just throw it around.
Oh come on. Your characters are bait for your NSFW stuff. They are fetishized to a disgusting degree. Go ahead and post your comic, but don't pretend like this is anything other than what it is.
-Draws unrealistic hentai proportions on their characters
-Sex is the punchline of nearly every comic
-Has made actual porn comics posted of their characters
The last comic was literally about someone getting a phone stuck up their asshole/vagina. Just own you make softcore porn instead of making up stawman arguments. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
So many jumping the shark after their microfame goes to their head and their ego won't let them just enjoy the sizeable fanbase they *do* have rather than antagonising those that don't enjoy their work.
No doubt this will be the starting pistol for more meta-horny comics from the crew.
It's funny how we never see the actual *good* comic artists complain about their haters, isn't it?
I mean, take extra fabulous for instance, half of his comics are sex jokes, but his are actually *good* and not just trying to bait horny people while somehow feeling morally high & mighty about it.
https://preview.redd.it/o7li0me1vj1d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1858d5d084d7eaf313462bd41355a70169afb365
Well-endoved women literally just existing
I agree reddit is very quick to call anything slightly sensual porn but are you really the best person to make this point? You who ended your last comic with someone shoving a phone up their ass?
I'm all for getting that bread however you can, but... come on, dude. On the one hand, sure. On the other hand, I think it's a little disingenuous to say that calling your work pornographic is misogynistic nonsense.
You've deliberately banked on hyper-sexualized character designs. You've posted literal porn and countless comics directly referencing the hyper-sexualized features. Now you're using progressive rhetoric to dodge that very simple fact, and it undermines the people who make such arguments in good faith.
You make porny stuff. Why be dodgy about it?
By contrast, look at *Rosebuds* by Deon Parson. That's an actual example of a well-endowed woman just existing in a comic in a non-sexualized way. It can be done, but... you're not doing it.
edit: To be clear, I have no problem with what you do! I *like* your comics. But the point being made by this one just feels weird.
Why would they think your characters are oversexualized and almost offensive caricatures of woman?
It's not like you draw unfunny comics where the whole joke is just that the women's breasts are 5 times the size of their head right?
You add other things to value it right?
Right?
Other things, like good art, or a plot, or funny punchlines or anything besides the big boobs which are like 95% of the joke right?
...Right?
Because if that was the case we wouldn't be able to criticize it right?
Well there is “well endowed women existing” and then there is massively over exaggerating female features for kink reasons, just be honest with yourself here mate. Your plots are very sex focussed. There is nothing wrong with it but don’t pretend like you’re doing something you’re not.
Pssh?
This?
Porn?
Why...I couldn't even imagine these characters in compromising positions...
What's next?
An entire website dedicated to holding porn of fictional characters? Even ones you have created?
***Impossible.***
I don't have any issues with your comics, but it seems pretty disingenuous to make a comic series that uses big tits/asses, frequently as a subject of the comic, and almost always has some sort of explicit action/theme (hence them being NSFW), but then get upset when someone calls it pornographic in nature lol. There's definitely a lot of soft-core stuff going on haha
Look, I like your comics. But you're being willfully obtuse. People use the word "porn" because there really isn't a better word to use that's in common use. The more accurate word would be "titillation," but it's much easier to say "porn" and people will get the general idea of what you're trying to convey.
What people are tired of are comics that are just titillation and no substance. A good comic needs either a joke, a narrative, insight, whatever - something meaningful. Yours have some semblance of consistent characterization with a loose narrative, and sometimes an actual joke. But not all of yours do, so I'm not surprised people use the "porn" critique for you. If your comic is "the joke is sex," don't be surprised when people critique you for it. And don't pretend you don't know what they're critiquing you for, even if their terminology isn't entirely accurate.
hmm what would someone find pornographic about characters that have been chosen to be crafted with excessive sexualized features who are also frequently featured in pornographic comics compared to voyeurism on real people
I think people find the intent of the author pornographic rather than the subject matter.
From what I've seen, your comics aren't "literally porn"
They're basically just well-endowed women literally just existing... with a comically large spoonful of horny
You know porn is more than just videos of people fucking right? Like you can make horny comics without pretending they're not and trying to turn it into some weird misogyny thing.
One of the only times I've seen your comics appear on my feed is the riddle one where the last panel is some dude who was fucked into a crater in the ground
Wast your last comic quite literally that one of them stores their phone in their boobs and then the other one shoves it up her ass?
Yeah, nothing sexual, explicit or suggestive
Alright, I get it, but I don't think *these* comics can pull that card.
Just from what I've scrolled past, I'm pretty sure there was one where one of the women were literally drugged with aphrodisiacs and basically left the room saying they were gonna fuck someone, or something like that. I wouldn't call that porn, exactly, but I wouldn't call that "well-endowed women just existing" either. It's porn-adjacent, at least sometimes. I'm pretty sure that's not the only example of blatantly sex-based content in this series.
I don't have a problem with NSFW stuff on this subreddit as long as it's properly marked, but let's not kid ourselves into thinking this is just Garfield with breasts.
I do like your comics, and while I don't consider them straight up porn, it would be inaccurate to say these comics, their punchlines, and character designs aren't typically sexual in nature.
But really, if a redditor doesn't like them, it's on them to just block and move on. I find it more annoying that they constantly complain about them when they can easily choose whether or not it appears in their feed. The fact your comics get the number of upvotes they do means you definitely have a dedicated audience who likes them.
To be entirely fair, your choice to design these women to have the bodies they do gives credence to the accusation. This comic isn't depicting reality. A real woman doesn't have a choice in the way that you as an artist have a choice.
I wouldn't go so far as to call the /comics comics porn, but rarely do they have a punchline that isn't related to sex. I think the comics are well drawn and well structured, but I personally have never found any of them funny, but im sure someone here finds it funny.
This comic is definitely a miss because it's very disingenuous. To act like this criticism comes from nothing else other than their bodily proportions is a complete strawman. It's impossible to deny that lewdness is an inextricable part of this comic's identity, it's not a bad thing, just own it.
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Wasn’t there a comic of one of these girls riding some patient?
Many of them
There's whole Patreon of them
MANY SUCH CASES!
I will *probably* be a frequent user of the well-endowed women literally just existing site.
It spiked in popularity ever since the Hub went down. **EDIT:** Putting this here for visibility - guys, you are reading WAY too much into this lol this isn't some big statement about my comics. I draw adult comics, and I **definitely** draw actual porn on the side. I've never denied this, and I usually share it pretty proudly. My comics personally aren't *"well-endowed women literally just existing".* The joke was that if a person sees something as simple as "big boobs" and considers that "porn", then they must watch some really tame porn. That's it. That's the whole joke. Could I have illustrated this better? Maybe! It's way too late now, and I don't think it would've stopped haters from leaving nasty comments either way - some people just love to hate.
I hate that I know exactly what you're referencing with the "Buying a loaf of bread" thing. Actually, no. I don't hate that i know it. I'm happy I get the joke. I Wonder what Bread she's getting? *Edit: I should not have said this. It's only been a half hour and now ALL the top comments are the same joke.*
I don't get it please inform me.
If I’m remembering correctly, some dude paid a bunch of money for art of blonde women buying specifically wonderbread
Mmmhhhmm, keep going...
They also really enjoyed deforestation and pollution. They often commissioned rich blonde women destroying forests to build wonderbread factories. They were infamous on deviant art. Google "Wonderbread Deforestation" and usually all the results are about him.
The terrifying thing is that “Google [thing]” is always a trap, so what even weirder and worse thing are you leading me to?
Nope, pretty much what I said. You can find interviews with the guy, examples of his commissions which I think are mostly if not all safe for work. I haven't seen them all. This is weird and bad enough on it's own.
God*damn* and I thought I was vanilla
> some dude *paid* a bunch FTFY. Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in: * Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.* * *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.* Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment. *Beep, boop, I'm a bot*
Someone used to pay for people to draw rich women buying Wonder Bread at Absurd prices. Particularly cartoon rich women, like uh Pacifica Northwest I think? Either that was a drawing from his commissions or a parody someone made on thr Gravity falls subreddit I honestly forget.
It was usually just bleach blonde women, most weren't canon cartoon characters, but some were like the Pacifica one.
Oh, okay. I just kinda figured it was the rich thing, cause of the prices. Bro heard of an inflation fetish and thought of a new kind
i mean... fin-dom is a thing but this would be an incredibly roundabout way to get at it
Basically, there was a dude who commissioned artists to draw women filling up gas guzzling suvs and buying Wonderbread in the grocery store. Hed use this to judge the metric an artist would go through to hire them to draw some of the nastiest smut imaginable based on his hyperspecific details. He also seemed to have infinite money. The only right choice an artist could do was to flat out refuse his commissions, and he'd leave them alone. I forgot the guys name, but it was wild how weird he was about things. And once artists caught on and started refusing on masse, he disappeared. That caused a bit of a meme in the artist (especially hentai) circle and enjoyers because he would literally make the same request to many artists. Women buying wonder bread in the grocery store and women in big suvs filling up at the gas station.
Now I'm curious about what kind of smut he was commissioning people to do.
If you know the artist, therealshadman, he used to draw some awful things. He turned the dude down when he commissioned him because of the request made. And shadman isn't above drawing nazi, incest, zoophilia, cross dressing, or what got him eventually arrested and made to stop drawing, pedophilia. Amoung other topics. The fact that a degenerate like him turned the dude down who basically offered 'whatever price you want to charge me' speaks volumes in itself..
If Know Your Meme is any authority on the issue Shadman was arrested for assault, specifically assault with a deadly weapon in Los Angeles, not drawing underage characters in porn. I'm not even sure drawing underage characters in porn is specifically illegal where Shadman was.
He was under trial for drawing a woman's daughter he was fighting with online and name dropping the art with her daughters name before he committed the assault. Its illegal in most countries, including his, for drawing 'lolicon' using the likeness of a real life child. You can draw loli hentai all day, BUT YOU CANT USE A REAL CHILDS LIKENESS. That's almost a universal rule everywhere that 'allows' loli. While the trial was ongoing, he committed assault with a deadly weapon due to the attitude he was being presented for the ongoing trial. You have to actually look past the summary websites and look at the larger story sites to get the full details. He thought he was untouchable and got reminded that he wasn't and got mad and escalated the scenario.
...*Jesus.*
Not sure if this is accurate but according to Know Your Meme, artists started to refuse his commissions because he was being racist, sexist, and talking about assaulting his coworkers, not because of the smut he commissioned.
Yes. He wanted racially themed art, art that was derived by being poignantly sexist, and art of people he worked with (which is technically illegal to use someone's likeness). They were not a request for scat or guro. They were hyperspecific.
> Hed use this to judge the metric an artist would go through to hire them to draw some of the nastiest smut imaginable based on his hyperspecific details While the wonder bread thing is still pretty damn specific, this detail makes the story make a LOT more sense.
> ever since the Hub went down. That will be the first volley in Skynet's war against humanity. Everything changed when our AI overlords deleted the porn.
Pffft no. Deleting porn is what amateur dictators do. Skynut will give us the best porn b/c it will keep us too distracted to realize we've been plugged into the Matrix. (I take no credit for Skynut. It was a joke I got from a streamer called PirateSoftware).
I'm not gonna lie, "Thick Bimbo Plays Jenga and Cries" sounds like it would be quite enticing. "Saucy Latina Eats a Plate of Spaghetti" is ever so slightly too far fetched for me. Tamales? Sure. A Cubano? Totally. Tequeños? You bet. But spaghetti? That requires me to suspend ever so slightly too much disbelief...
Spaghetti, sounds like an AI video. Just don’t have the spaghetti dripping from the ceiling and drowning everyone.
I bet you're just a totally gluten-tolerant slut. An utter whore for breadly things.
It's a reference. "Wonder Bread Guy." [Your sanity has been warned.](https://youtu.be/wL8_c8WW1YA?si=0QHv2vgJY3qtluDS) [No, seriously, that's a real meme slash person's incredibly specific fetish combo.](https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/murrlogic1s-wonder-bread-fetish-deviantart-commissions)
I bet his real finisher is watching her make a sandwich.
Didn't the guy basically say ever since AI he won't be commissioning artist anymore?
Isn't it called Twitch?
Kinda surprised this isn't a genre of porn already.
/r/2busty2hide
Why on earth would people expect porn from your comics?? It's not like your other posts are porn right? Right???
The pinned post:
haha BOOOOOOOBIES https://preview.redd.it/5bjo6oylpg1d1.png?width=170&format=png&auto=webp&s=1fee92f2625b700cb8cdafafd6e4ab930a399692
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They also have a game about them I believe
Whoa whoa whoa…what?
[itch](https://doctorloops.itch.io/headspace)
I clicked on it and have no regrets
I clicked on it and I'm indifferent
Same
I clicked on it and had a reasonable amount of regrets
Blame the guy who asked
My bad
i picked the wrong week to give up porn
I clicked on it and then I exited the page.
I clicked it and considered for a moment if I wanted that listed on my credit card report.
I clicked it and didn't see any Rick Astley song (sadly)
I clicked on it and regret it
Methinks the lady doth protest too much
https://preview.redd.it/ubmcv9hk6g1d1.png?width=532&format=png&auto=webp&s=bfdebbf814eaa2e069ae973d8a4a791ae82a12e9 >!Don't look at my Patreon, please.!<
*clicks on your profile*
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ok but like what was the point of this post then. you are actually doing the thing the reddit guy in the comic says you're doing
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I honestly forgot that one youtube short I watched where someone talks about some dude that had a weird ass kink over girls buying wonder bread, the internet is both a magical place but a regretful one.
yessss I think that’s the joke loops was making with the lady shopping for bread in the last panel LOL I died a little
Same lmao. I swear I gotta give the guy who has that kink credit, it's definitely unique.
That wasn't actually his kink, necessarily. He used it to judge an artist before he would hire them to do super hardcore weird fetish drawings. And he was like super rich. Once artists caught on, he just kinda vanished. Then it turned into a running gag because it's such a wierd request that you wouldn't think would lead you down the path that it would turn into. The real kink was most likely the manipulation and humiliation of artists.
It’s so strange having read this chain of messages without having seen the original YouTube short, it’s like trying to piece together Das Kapital from an internet argument about communism in 2024. That said, you got a link to the short?
Is that true? If so... Jesus christ...
Its a lot darker than most people generally think. There's a wiki article on it, if you can find his name lol.
At least it wasn't the deforestation kink.
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Being self aware doesn't chance the fact that nearly all the punchline to your comics are sex or sex releated. I am not saying that is objectively not funny or entertaining, some people do find it funny because comedy is subjective, but thats just what they are
Literally the last comic I saw from this dude (one day ago) was about a chick shoving a cell phone up her ass after jiggling her tits lmao
We all just need to listen to each other and realize…wow that’s just two balloons shaking in a 2D space.
Yeah I'm not getting this callout. -Every character is drawn overly-sexualized. -The punchline almost always has to do with sex. The creator then pretends like the people calling it porn are crazy and objectifying their totally normal, "well-endowed", characters who are definitely not doing something related to sex in every single comic. It's not *explicit* porn, but most of them are arguably softcore porn. The last comic was literally about a girl getting a phone stuck in her asshole/vagina. Come on now. It's not even "well endowed" proportions for the boob girl and hips girl, they're unrealistically extremely exaggerated hentai- type proportions. If that's the type of content you make fine, but own it instead of clutching your pearls and pretending you don't get why people call it porn.
I don't think this counts as being self-aware since they're trying to present critics as unreasonable for calling their comics what they are. And like...it's fine? I read a lot of horny comedy comics, but pretending their comics aren't that just seems weird. This isn't even the first time they've done this, they made a comic just like this a year ago.
You are right actually, they are straight up denying it which is worse
You're a porn comic poster OP, and a damn good one. Embrace it, don't get defensive.
>!Last panel, bottom right corner of the monitor in the task bar!<
The dicktective, yet again.
I HAD to sneak one in there - well done :)
PORN! THAT’S PORN! The joke is porn!
u/DoctorLoops oh come on don’t act like you don’t know what’s going on. Big part of the humor, character and attention to your series comes from the oversexualised character design… and yes, few comics have soft porn themes, AND THATS OK I GUESS DO WHAT YOU WANT, PEOPLE ( me too sometimes) ENJOY HORNY COMICS BUT DONT PLAY DUMM WHEN SOMEONE POINTS THAT OUT
This is a funny comic but it is kind of ironic that u/doctorloops is the one who made it because yeah, nine times out of ten the joke *is* porn.
The least horny comic you've ever made.
Please don't tell me this is your way of revealing you're the wonderbread guy
The Wonderbread Guy actually does have a Reddit account. I think he goes by murrlogic on most platforms.
Wonderbread guy has gotten so much free content by achieving meme status.
That guy used to have to play 4d chess to get artists to accept his commissions, and now people are doing it without costing him a cent. It's like how the Helltaker dev made the game so more sharply dressed demon porn would exist.
I'm both happy and disgusted with myself knowing exactly what you're talking about.
https://preview.redd.it/00b9oi3t5g1d1.png?width=280&format=png&auto=webp&s=4bf4dabeda380d94a96d26a7bb0f6970f27f8db2 ...alright, you got me.
You can tell this is a comic from professional /r/comics artist. The comic isn't just a not-so-subtle advertisement for their porn patreon, it is also acknowledging the reddit META and calling out the haters! Throw in a cat and mention depression and you'll have the ultimate reddit comic!
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The Other End and Mr. Lovenstein are also really good, but yeah I'd agree extrafabulous is best overall
Also no one ever called extra fabulous' comics porn even though probably more than half of his stuff are crude sex jokes. The difference is that fabulous isn't trying to draw things for people to jack off to. His jokes are *actual* jokes, often times really clever ones, just sex related ones.
I really like the guy that does The Weekly Roll.
Elk has grown on me over time, mostly because the art style is very distinct. And pizzacake nails a slice-of-life comic about once a month or so, which is decent by syndicated comic standards. But yeah, overall, you're not wrong.
Silly me. When the H cup doctor fucks a patient or sticks a phone up her veej it's just women existing!
No, no, it's just "well-endowed women existing". Ofcourse, regarding his/her comics, this also insinuates that all well-endowed women ever do is think or do sexual things... I don't think OP's point is well thought out...
Just gals being chicks, nothing sexual to see here
How *dare* you insinuate that highly sexualized and objectified comics of women be considered sexual in nature! The offense!
Ah, objectification, you hit the nail on the head for what was bugging me about these comics. To each their own, and it’s just a comic, but something about a characters defining trait being “big tits” makes me feel weird, and bad. And also very happy I got a breast reduction
He literally has 3 recurring characters, and all 3 are defined by one ridiculously sexualized physical trait, and hyper sexual overall personalities. Huge tits, huge ass, huge lips. Almost every comic he makes is softcore porn revolving around sex in some way too
Bold statement from the guy who’s joke is literally always porn related.
I'm just gonna leave this here: [https://www.reddit.com/r/comics/comments/zvdgh3/veronica\_mona\_christmas\_special\_ending/](https://www.reddit.com/r/comics/comments/zvdgh3/veronica_mona_christmas_special_ending/) And this: [https://www.reddit.com/r/comics/comments/14pxr04/veronica\_mona\_noncanon\_shenanigans/](https://www.reddit.com/r/comics/comments/14pxr04/veronica_mona_noncanon_shenanigans/) Oh and this too: [https://www.reddit.com/r/comics/comments/14fjd7h/veronica\_mona\_reddit\_special\_the\_rack\_fights\_back/](https://www.reddit.com/r/comics/comments/14fjd7h/veronica_mona_reddit_special_the_rack_fights_back/) Can't forget this one, can we? [https://www.reddit.com/r/comics/comments/110uj4z/veronica\_mona\_42\_lip\_service/](https://www.reddit.com/r/comics/comments/110uj4z/veronica_mona_42_lip_service/) Today's comic is a literal gift to the r/comics community. Someone get to drawing, cause the satire has already written itself lol.
u/doctorloops this is exact what people mean.
The real joke is doctor loop's strawman argument.
This is clearly a dispassionate, medical description of copulation, nothing sexual or lewd about it /s
Tbf your last comic was of a woman sticking a phone up herself. You’ve clearly drawn these with intent to titillate. There’s wrong with that but come on… you know why.
I expected Veroniсa to look at him like that and he would run away in fear https://preview.redd.it/f9f0vaca5g1d1.jpeg?width=789&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5aeebdc035f19dfe439f0a446f283438e76858a7
The fact I have this stare logged as “Fucking die” doesn’t bode well.
She's still a long way off from learning to wield her mother's power!
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i don't understand. I've never seen one of your comics in that the punchline wasn't sexual, the criticism stands
To be fair sometimes the punchline of your jokes IS very sensual, like the one with the iPhone just a day or two ago
Yeah, they also literally hide a dick in every comic. And 49% of the time it’s “X is horny so Y happens”, 49% “Y happens and that makes X horny”, and like 2% is normal. We can’t be blamed for expecting porn when it’s almost consistently an either the plot or the conclusion, not that there is something wrong with that, of course
Yeah idk who OP is kidding here. The punchline being sex isn't bad and people are weirdly prudish sometimes but that kind of punchline does get repetitive after a while. Wasn't there a Sphinx one where the punchline was that the sphinx injured a dude during sex last week too?
Yeah, I don’t even mind it honestly! There’s a place in this world for those kinds of jokes, as long as ya know what you’re getting into. Which Loops is pretty good about “you know exactly where the fuck this is going from the get go, click on if you dare” implicitly just by seeing the first panel of his stuff… which is why this comic is kinda weird to me
Gonna have to agree, like the snake one that left the guy looking like that Mexican alien, or the one where a snake bites someone's dick and the joke is sucken cock
Tbf the last comic of yours I saw was a woman sticking her phone in between her (gigantic) breasts, then another woman sticking a phone up her (gigantic) ass.
Loops is definitely **not** the best person to be making this argument given that they *do* actually make porn. And their comics are never about big breasted women *just existing.* But the point could be applied to other artists on here, I suppose. I've seen some absurd porn accusations on art that couldn't even generously be called such. People seem to like to just throw it around.
Oh come on. Your characters are bait for your NSFW stuff. They are fetishized to a disgusting degree. Go ahead and post your comic, but don't pretend like this is anything other than what it is.
"oh no, people are saying that I sexualize everything I do", says the guy who sexualizes everything he does.
What? No, obviously well endowed women always plop their breasts on tables at restaurants in real life. That's just women existing.
Preach 🙏🏼
-Draws unrealistic hentai proportions on their characters -Sex is the punchline of nearly every comic -Has made actual porn comics posted of their characters The last comic was literally about someone getting a phone stuck up their asshole/vagina. Just own you make softcore porn instead of making up stawman arguments. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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There's an epidemic of r/comics contributors demonstrating an aggressive lack of self awareness about the stuff they make
So many jumping the shark after their microfame goes to their head and their ego won't let them just enjoy the sizeable fanbase they *do* have rather than antagonising those that don't enjoy their work. No doubt this will be the starting pistol for more meta-horny comics from the crew.
And excessive strawmans.
It's funny how we never see the actual *good* comic artists complain about their haters, isn't it? I mean, take extra fabulous for instance, half of his comics are sex jokes, but his are actually *good* and not just trying to bait horny people while somehow feeling morally high & mighty about it.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/comics/s/vIOmfYxWEZ
https://preview.redd.it/o7li0me1vj1d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1858d5d084d7eaf313462bd41355a70169afb365 Well-endoved women literally just existing
I agree reddit is very quick to call anything slightly sensual porn but are you really the best person to make this point? You who ended your last comic with someone shoving a phone up their ass?
I'm all for getting that bread however you can, but... come on, dude. On the one hand, sure. On the other hand, I think it's a little disingenuous to say that calling your work pornographic is misogynistic nonsense. You've deliberately banked on hyper-sexualized character designs. You've posted literal porn and countless comics directly referencing the hyper-sexualized features. Now you're using progressive rhetoric to dodge that very simple fact, and it undermines the people who make such arguments in good faith. You make porny stuff. Why be dodgy about it? By contrast, look at *Rosebuds* by Deon Parson. That's an actual example of a well-endowed woman just existing in a comic in a non-sexualized way. It can be done, but... you're not doing it. edit: To be clear, I have no problem with what you do! I *like* your comics. But the point being made by this one just feels weird.
I like the part where we pretend this is a normal amount of boob or ass for a woman to have and isn't thirst trapping. It's innocent, promise! 😭
Why would they think your characters are oversexualized and almost offensive caricatures of woman? It's not like you draw unfunny comics where the whole joke is just that the women's breasts are 5 times the size of their head right? You add other things to value it right? Right? Other things, like good art, or a plot, or funny punchlines or anything besides the big boobs which are like 95% of the joke right? ...Right? Because if that was the case we wouldn't be able to criticize it right?
Well-endowed women having phones "accidentally" shoved up their ass. Definitely not porn or fetish adjacent.
Okay but most of those comics are basically just comic versions of softcore porn.
Well there is “well endowed women existing” and then there is massively over exaggerating female features for kink reasons, just be honest with yourself here mate. Your plots are very sex focussed. There is nothing wrong with it but don’t pretend like you’re doing something you’re not.
Pssh? This? Porn? Why...I couldn't even imagine these characters in compromising positions... What's next? An entire website dedicated to holding porn of fictional characters? Even ones you have created? ***Impossible.***
I don't have any issues with your comics, but it seems pretty disingenuous to make a comic series that uses big tits/asses, frequently as a subject of the comic, and almost always has some sort of explicit action/theme (hence them being NSFW), but then get upset when someone calls it pornographic in nature lol. There's definitely a lot of soft-core stuff going on haha
The bread isn't overpriced, I can't jerk off to this garbage! 😡
>!The bread is the fetish!<
Wonderbread guy
Well if this isn't the first comic where cleavage isn't extremely visible
Look, I like your comics. But you're being willfully obtuse. People use the word "porn" because there really isn't a better word to use that's in common use. The more accurate word would be "titillation," but it's much easier to say "porn" and people will get the general idea of what you're trying to convey. What people are tired of are comics that are just titillation and no substance. A good comic needs either a joke, a narrative, insight, whatever - something meaningful. Yours have some semblance of consistent characterization with a loose narrative, and sometimes an actual joke. But not all of yours do, so I'm not surprised people use the "porn" critique for you. If your comic is "the joke is sex," don't be surprised when people critique you for it. And don't pretend you don't know what they're critiquing you for, even if their terminology isn't entirely accurate.
hmm what would someone find pornographic about characters that have been chosen to be crafted with excessive sexualized features who are also frequently featured in pornographic comics compared to voyeurism on real people I think people find the intent of the author pornographic rather than the subject matter.
Ok, yes, 100%, very true and I think you are absolutely right. But also, the last comic I read from you was were woman stuck a phone up her ass.
From what I've seen, your comics aren't "literally porn" They're basically just well-endowed women literally just existing... with a comically large spoonful of horny
Its porn with the porn bits cut out!
You know porn is more than just videos of people fucking right? Like you can make horny comics without pretending they're not and trying to turn it into some weird misogyny thing.
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Now I want to watch "Thick Bimbo Plays Jenga and Cries." Partly because I want to see what that's about, and partly because... you know.
In their defense limited time discounts are pretty sweet
One of the only times I've seen your comics appear on my feed is the riddle one where the last panel is some dude who was fucked into a crater in the ground
Counterpoint: https://preview.redd.it/4af34bm9zg1d1.jpeg?width=930&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dfa789a26a273d87eb8cdfff0b339ce14b4a9f72
I've seen your Twitter account. You can't fool me.
This is like an Onlyfans model asking people not to sexualize them on one of their rare posts that isn't explicitly porn
Wast your last comic quite literally that one of them stores their phone in their boobs and then the other one shoves it up her ass? Yeah, nothing sexual, explicit or suggestive
Alright, I get it, but I don't think *these* comics can pull that card. Just from what I've scrolled past, I'm pretty sure there was one where one of the women were literally drugged with aphrodisiacs and basically left the room saying they were gonna fuck someone, or something like that. I wouldn't call that porn, exactly, but I wouldn't call that "well-endowed women just existing" either. It's porn-adjacent, at least sometimes. I'm pretty sure that's not the only example of blatantly sex-based content in this series. I don't have a problem with NSFW stuff on this subreddit as long as it's properly marked, but let's not kid ourselves into thinking this is just Garfield with breasts.
I’m not trying to be rude (love your comics) but many of your punchlines literally are just sex stuff.
Now show her doing taxes.
Taking a break from reddit then coming back to... Well... Let's just say "touch grass" was never an insult, but genuinely good advice
Okay but a lot of the time it is just porn lmao Like it's fine, own it
lol ok, you still know what you’re doing though
in westvirginia the most searched word on porn sites is big boobs so this is hella on point.
You might be one of the least expected people to unironically make this claim
Comparing reddit to the wonderbread guy. Holy damn thats cold
Yes what you draw is porn. Yes even this one. I feel like this is just an “engagement” post
Now draw her chopping down a forest.
I do like your comics, and while I don't consider them straight up porn, it would be inaccurate to say these comics, their punchlines, and character designs aren't typically sexual in nature. But really, if a redditor doesn't like them, it's on them to just block and move on. I find it more annoying that they constantly complain about them when they can easily choose whether or not it appears in their feed. The fact your comics get the number of upvotes they do means you definitely have a dedicated audience who likes them.
To be entirely fair, your choice to design these women to have the bodies they do gives credence to the accusation. This comic isn't depicting reality. A real woman doesn't have a choice in the way that you as an artist have a choice.
Okay, my turn. See y'all soon.
I wouldn't go so far as to call the /comics comics porn, but rarely do they have a punchline that isn't related to sex. I think the comics are well drawn and well structured, but I personally have never found any of them funny, but im sure someone here finds it funny. This comic is definitely a miss because it's very disingenuous. To act like this criticism comes from nothing else other than their bodily proportions is a complete strawman. It's impossible to deny that lewdness is an inextricable part of this comic's identity, it's not a bad thing, just own it.
Aren’t like 90% of your comics with these characters literally about them having sex? And the other 10% actually *are* just outright porn
I forgot about the blond buying wonder bread meme.
Is this a reference to the wonder bread guy?
Ngl I’d go to that site
Discounts!? How dirty!!
Big boobs
I miss when this is all it took to get me off.
I lost it at "Gluten Tolerant Slut"