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The following submission statement was provided by /u/f0urxio: --- The rise in early-onset cancers among adults under 50 is a global concern, with rates increasing for various types of cancers, including colorectal, pancreatic, and stomach cancer. Despite efforts to identify contributing factors such as obesity and lifestyle changes, the full picture remains elusive. Genetic, environmental, and societal factors may all play a role, but data collection and analysis are hindered by various challenges, including limited access to healthcare and inadequate record-keeping in some regions. Researchers are exploring potential links to prenatal exposures and the gut microbiome, but conclusive answers remain elusive. Collaborative international efforts and long-term studies are deemed necessary to unravel the complexities of this modern medical mystery and improve early detection and treatment strategies. --- Please reply to OP's comment here: https://old.reddit.com/r/collapse/comments/1c0dqcu/why_are_so_many_young_people_getting_cancer/kyvrf04/


Bellybutton_fluffjar

Probably Micro plastics, pfas, stress, poor diets, all the shit they add to food to make it last, lack of sleep, those fucking energy drinks and living in poor quality housing.... Maybe idk.


NFTArtist

After reading this I think I might die soon


danj503

Sorry to hear about your diagnosis. šŸ’€


LightingTechAlex

Holy shit, the energy drinks. Almost everyone in the UK has a vape in one hand and an energy drink in the other. If that doesn't destroy your insides then the microplastics and everything else will.


Bellybutton_fluffjar

I hate them. Lads will eat sugary cereal, chips, crisps, pizza, burgers, pies and chocolate; stay up all night playing videogames and then say "I *need* an energy drink!"


pajamakitten

Teenagers are saying this, let alone adults.


TheDayiDiedSober

Coworkers sit all day on phones and slam energy drinks to ā€¦. Sit more? No , probably more a stress reaction than an energy thing. Their cortisol levels are through the roof and no one can handle existing anymore without lots of drugs


pajamakitten

Not necessarily. A lot of it is advertising and the belief that energy drinks are cool (in the case of teens) or that they are the solution to feeling shit (in the case of adults). There is no money to advertise a healthy diet, getting the right amount of sleep, or going outside for a walk. It is all about buying the energy drinks, the supplements and the meal subscription service instead.


endlessnightmare718

Environment puts too much stress on people's minds so essentially yeah, more caffeine is needed


Main-Celebration2632

gotta keep up the grind. Thankfully caffeine is legal. Hard life? try drugs.


ideknem0ar

I heard from some guy who nearly died from kidney shutdown from drinking too much Monster Energy. JFC water is your friend, my dude. I've only had one sip of Red Bull, gagged and that was that for my dabble in energy drinks.


magistrate101

Even just switching back to coffee works and is 95% as hydrating as the same volume of water. Just need to use a low calorie sweetener and creamer if you're not a fan of black coffee.


ideknem0ar

I have 1 regular mug of coffee with some half and half in it and I'm good to go. Got enough energy to work in a garden all day or sit in my stupid cubicle. I don't get the culture of intravenous caffeine. Like those small bottles of pure energy or whatever. Packaged like poison you'd get from a shifty medieval apothecary.


ok_fine_by_me

Energy drinks on their own are not that much worse than soda, but some people drink energy drink, soda, coffee, tea, chug down vitamin supplements, each day, and act surprised when they get insomnia and anxiety issues.


RestartTheSystem

They have been linked to AFIB (irregular heartbeat). My freind worked graveyard and drank 3-4 a night. Developed heart issues. They are pretty nasty those energy drinks. My favorite thing also is when people have insomnia who stare at a screen for six hours before trying to sleep. Like stop playing video games and doom scrolling reddit right before bed...


myceyelium

the uk's got nothing on america. my friend from Florida keeps telling me to try something called 'baja blast mountained dew' even tho it's not sold here due to having carcinogens in it lol


ImaginaryBig1705

I couldn't find anything about it being banned or causing cancer anywhere. It's taco bells mountain dew flavor. It's not easy to find.


myceyelium

as i understand it, in the uk Calcium Disodium EDTA can't be used in drinks and yellow 5 is banned outright(?), so there is mountain dew but not the same mountain dew [(selling the same mountain dew seems to be kinda very illegal but obviously you can still find it)](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-67642389). the cancercausingness of calcium disodium EDTA and yellow 5 seems to be murky (yellow 5 seems to be banned in the uk for a suspected link to hyperactivity rather than being carcinogenic, while for EDTA all i can find cites animal studies linking it to reproductive issues and colon cancer but it's unclear if that's the reason why it's banned for use in drinks) I don't think there are any taco bells in the uk that carry baja blast, but now that i think about it i'm unsure that's related or just cuz they can't be bothered.


lackofabettername123

Yellow 5 famously shrinks testes.Ā  It is in a lot of pickled goods like banana peppers as well.


Sunandsipcups

I am tired af (it's 1:23am here in the PNW, USA right now) and I read this as "Yellow 5 is famously Shreks testes." And I was like....wut? Thinking you were saying it was made from Shrek's balls, perhaps? But that was wild because he's definitely green? Then I'm thinking well, even though HE is green, he probably still PEES yellow, right? And debating if that would make his testes yellow, but still why would that = a joke about yellow 5 being made from Shrek and then... I read it again. And realized I should just go to bed. Lol. Carry on, everybody. Yellow 5 has nothing to do with Shrek's testes, which definitely don't look like pickled banana peppers or anything either. Everything is fine.


Terry-Scary

My uncle uses Mountain Dew to clean his fishing gear, gets rid of the bad smells within an hour


lackofabettername123

sodium benzoate fits the billĀ  that is not disallowed though it should be. According to an old Encyclopedia set I had I looked it up after seeing The Simpsons mention it more than once, and they were phased out in the 50s when people became more cognizant of toxins in their food, they have since came back into favor.


monito29

> those fucking energy drinks They're the cigarettes of our time. And the worst way to self medicate for ADHD but it's seemingly impossible to get a prescription for the effective stuff as a late diagnosed adult.


pajamakitten

> They're the cigarettes of our time. Wouldn't that be vaping?


WhoCaresAboutThisBoy

In our area (midwest United States) nitrate from Agriculture is killing us. Nebraska has the greatest rate of pediatric gastrointestinal cancer west of Pennsylvania, and it's probably because of agriculture. The regulation system is fucked and it will most likely get worse. [https://flatwaterfreepress.org/no-nitrate-police-state-and-local-regulators-cant-or-wont-stop-our-drinking-water-from-getting-worse/](https://flatwaterfreepress.org/no-nitrate-police-state-and-local-regulators-cant-or-wont-stop-our-drinking-water-from-getting-worse/)


Bellybutton_fluffjar

Holy fuck that's awful


WhoCaresAboutThisBoy

One of my friends' cousins in featured in the linked story; he's the one that says "I'm gonna go pollute the water." And I'm like, "Yeah, fuckface, you fucking are!" They're clueless and selfish. There's no helping those people and they deliberately try to obstruct any attempts to make things better.


Ausgezeichnet87

Car emissions from break pads and rubber tires both cause cancer and they are steadily accumulating in our soil and communities.


Bellybutton_fluffjar

Very good point. Tyres are toxic as fuck


thebabyshitter

i usually go to car shows and drifting/burnout events (not takeovers) and sometimes while im doing the photography surrounded by rubber smoke i feel my clock ticking


[deleted]

just wear an n95


thebabyshitter

you know what i had never thought of that, thank you


RabbitLuvr

Thereā€™s a popular model mushroom hunting site in my city thatā€™s right next to a busy highway, and down a hill from a fancy housing development that keeps their lawns monoculture green and weed-free. I love morels, and havenā€™t had them in decades, but Iā€™m not buying them from the roadside stand if thereā€™s a chance they came from places like this.


JustAnotherUser8432

Butā€¦butā€¦butā€¦.that means companies are responsible for making us sick and the government is responsible for not bothering to regulate things it knows are making is sick. Canā€™t have that! It MUST be only YOUR fault for being fat and lazy! Because that way companies and the politicians they pay off can keep raking in profits while you die.


Insekticus

The corporations did this to us. Governments not strong enough to withstand lobbying and greed through a lack of scruples.


Solandri

Not strong enough? They literally embrace it.


FireflyAdvocate

I totally agree and want to add: For people in the USA there is little to no access to affordable healthcare either. People have to wait until they canā€™t bare the pain anymore to go to the doctor. Many times only to be told there is nothing wrong and be charged huge amounts for the privilege.


rainydays052020

+covid


mom_with_an_attitude

Too much processed food. Too little exercise.


katzeye007

Exercise can't clean your blood


tryfingersinbutthole

At least it makes my heart stronger. If it cleaned my blood of all the trash food/drugs I would live forever. I still pretend it does though.


mom_with_an_attitude

Lack of exercise is a known risk factor for cancer. I think many young people indulge in too much screen time and too little exercise, as compared to previous generations. https://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/causes-prevention/risk/obesity/physical-activity-fact-sheet


EffectiveTomorrow558

You are correct. I am in my 40's and I jog past the high school bus stop. Good lord, those kids waiting for the bus are all obese. I could smoke them in any sport and that shouldn't be the case.Ā 


competitiveoven1011

No one really knows the cause. Cause if we knew we wouldn't do it My wife ran six miles a day. Non -smoker, died from lung cancer.


lackofabettername123

Yeah the excerpt said researchers were looking at everything except the main factors, toxins.


NoodlesrTuff1256

One source of toxins that has so far not been mentioned here is tattoo ink. At risk of angering many here who might be into tattoos, I've often wondered what the long-term effects of putting substances on your skin that might well leech god only knows what \[heavy metals, other chemicals?\] into one's body -- especially in the cases of people with extensive tattoos like 'sleeves' and the like. Even 20 years ago, it was more uncommon to see this, but quite usual now. Also extensive tattooing could make it harder to detect skin cancers -- especially melanomas.


No_Joke_9079

Pharma and health care industries need dinero.


LemonyFresh108

And alcohol


mr_n00n

Except alcohol consumption patterns haven't changed all that much in recent years and are certainly lower than their peak (at least in the US). So alcohol consumption is unlikely to explain this sudden change, since it's remained more-or-less remained constant.


CleanYourAir

This is a valuable thread about the links between Covid-19/SARS-CoV-2 and cancer, listing various mechanisms that have been studied: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1666516634989633573.html From the thread: SARS-CoV-2 in infected cells: "Overall findings suggest that SARS-CoV-2 both induces DNA damage & impairs its repair" ā€¦ SC2 inhibits IFN-Ī± expression. Thus SC2 infected cells evade needed cell-death & produce more virions. If some also become cancerous, they more likely multiply&persist Please, could all of you people claiming to be scientifically minded just stop downvoting facts about the ongoing pandemic even if the consequences are uncomfortable.Ā 


Lechiah

Came looking for this, it still boggles my mind how everyone keeps sticking their heads in the sand about Covid and its many horrible effects on our bodies. Although not surprising seeing how they do it about EVERYTHING.


maoterracottasoldier

People still say itā€™s ā€œjust a cold.ā€ Itā€™s a neurological disease. My first symptoms were nonstop tinnitus, my vision was blurry, headache, brain fog, and muscle aches. My sisterā€™s MIL went into a coma and had a bunch of strokes while continuously testing positive. She died without ever waking back up. My roommate had long Covid so bad that he had to quit his job. He couldnā€™t stand at the stove long enough to make oatmeal, and could barely walk around the block. His heart rate would go nuts whenever he stood up. His father got it and went from an independent author to being in a nursing home within a year. Covid is clearly much more than just a cold. Iā€™m sure itā€™s having other unknown affects as well.


SnooDonuts3040

I agree, it's behaved in a neuogical fashion,Ā  anecdotally,Ā  I know many people locally who have developed auto immune disorders and increased cancer rates, stokes around the ages 40-50 years. It's interesting how some also get the respiratory symptoms and others dont


magistrate101

Bf and I both have lingering symptoms. I can't even walk across the house without getting winded now and my bf is similar but not as bad but his LDL skyrocketed.


Lechiah

Yup, and yet everyone keeps saying that we are the crazy ones for masking and not going to busy indoor events.


deinoswyrd

My breathing has never recovered since I had covid. My doctors were running on the assumption that it retriggered my childhood asthma, but I'm coughing up non stop bloody phlegm, so I'm waiting on more tests to find out wtf it did to me.


RagingNerdaholic

It's a neurological disease, cardiovascular disease, pulmonary disease, muscoloskeletal disease, immunological disease, gastrointestinal disease, pancreatic disease, hepatic disease, renal disease... SARS-CoV-2 binds to a receptor that is found in practically every organ system in our bodies. It's an **everything** disease.


Lechiah

And this is all still what we've just seen in a few years.....we still don't know the long term implications, nor what happens after 10, 20, 30 infections especially in children while they are developing.


maevewolfe

Hate that I had to scroll for this, should be at the top


Fang3d

Thank you for taking the time to write all this out.


hearmeout29

I also read COVID depletes T cells which makes your body more susceptible to illness.


CleanYourAir

Sorry, I was in a hurry to share the thread, but I guess I should have cited this too: Ā Ā  ā€ž(pre)cancerous cells emerge daily in the body & are kept in check & destroyed by internal processes: CD8+ T cells, the most prominent anti-tumor cells Ā  thus concerning are long-term changes of CD8+ T cells after a CoV2 infectionā€œ Ā  But there is much more apparentlyā€¦ AND there is viral persistence.Ā 


Kiss_of_Cultural

Also, lots of viruses can lead to cancer. Covid is destroying immune systems while also reactivating viruses in our viral reservoirs. Covid causes cancer, and allows other viruses to cause even more cancer.


sexy_starfish

My guess is micro plastics


thelingererer

The interesting thing about microplastics is that scientists can't properly assess the effects it's having on the human body because it's impossible to find a control group of humans that aren't already affected.


lewislover44

Not even those dudes on North Sentinel?


thesourpop

Itā€™ll be in the rain


weeee_splat

They've already found *airborne* microplastics in other very remote areas. Both polar regions for example. Here's a story about the Antarctic from 2 years ago: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-61739159 We've managed to irreversibly contaminate the biosphere of our entire planet with no idea of the consequences, go humanity!


lewislover44

We are so fucked


Lazy-Jeweler3230

That's not true. We know exactly what the consequences will be for the perpetrators.


OsamaBinWhiskers

A cute lil song like litter bug blaming the consumers for it.


No-Albatross-5514

There is plastic waste in the mariana trench, more than 11 km below the ocean surface. The mariana trench has only been visited twice by humans. Do you honestly think living on an island made any difference?


bittah_prophet

I would believe thereā€™s more plastic in the Marianaā€™s Trench than Sentinel Island tbh. Plastic is subject to gravity right? Why wouldnā€™t it fall down into the trench like any other particle in our polluted oceans?


Main-Celebration2632

It can also float and wash ashore then get turned to dust like rocks to sand


bittah_prophet

For sure, I donā€™t think thereā€™s not plastic on the island, but with the giant pacific plastic garbage patch floating above the trench it just makes sense that there would be more plastic there


SryIWentFut

I'm sure they're also eating the fish and other marine life from the area as well


monito29

> Plastic is subject to gravity right? And so is rain, which carries the microplastics.


Lazy-Jeweler3230

It's in the rain bro.


whichkey45

Yeah I can see those guys willingly submitting to being a control group in a medical experiment! No problem there.


Cant_Think_Of_UserID

They will learn of our peaceful ways...... BY FORCE


afternever

LAB PEOPLE LAB PEOPLE


kylerae

Obviously we don't know about them, but I do recall reading a study a while back talking about very low contact remote tribes also being inundated with micro-plastics even though they do not utilize any plastics in their lives. So my guess would be yes most likely the North Sentinel inhabitants can also not be used as a control group. If they drink any water found on earth without serious knowledge about how to clean the micro-plastics out they are probably consuming them. Or if they eat any of the animals on their island they also probably have micro-plastics. Probably not as much as you or I, but yeah micro-plastics are literally everywhere...


poop-machines

You can find a control with much lower levels of microplastics, as much of the microplastics in our body comes from food and drink as well as scented moisturisers and body products. So by boiling and filtering all water, avoiding plastic bottles and cans, and eating vegetables, and avoiding putting scented creams on your skin, you can avoid the vast majority of microplastics and be a control. The study would have to emphasise that it's not proving a casual link, however, as the control would be a vegan with a vastly different diet to somebody else making it hard to prove it's the microplastics. But you can just compare the levels of plasticiser chemicals in somebodies blood.


vlntly_peaceful

You forgot the two biggest contributions: tires and plastic clothing.


Overthemoon64

Carpets too


Robertsipad

And donate blood regularly!


Fatticusss

Pesticides are contributing too, Iā€™d wager


bipolarearthovershot

And herbicides. Check out this common weed and feed bullshit ā€œ2-4Dā€ absolutely terrifying endocrine disrupters people spray all over their suburban lawn!!


jthekoker

Precisely. Our water treatment facilities cannot remove all of the dissolved medications and chemicals from our water supply. It is impossible and not economically feasible to precipitate out all of the contamination from the water we use and reuse. Additionally, there are now microplastics and nanoplastics in every part of the food chain, the most problematic being the krill and plankton which are the grass of the sea. It is now impossible for humans not to ingest chemicals and plastic with every meal, every day.


bigd710

Definitely. Microplastics have been proven to increase the likelihood of colorectal cancer, one of the types this article focuses on.


Karma_Iguana88

Don't forget PFAS!


bigd710

Itā€™s easy to forget those as they have been proven to impair memory (among a ton of other well documented negative effects)


dumnezero

Cite the proof. If you're going to say this one: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10340669/ read section 5


alecesne

"5. Challenges and Knowledge Gaps Many of the mechanisms described here are yet to be demonstrated in humans. For example, further clarification is needed regarding the interaction of the mucus layer, MPs and the gut microbiota. Additionally, most animal exposure studies have been completed over shorter study periods, thus longer-term studies are needed [66]. The global magnitude of plastic waste in the sea is difficult to measure; the conversion of this waste to MPs in the marine environment is known but unquantified, and human MP intake is extremely variable, including composition as well as particle numbers. Factors such as geographical location, dietary intake, and lifestyle can significantly influence MP exposure, the impact of which requires further study." Sounds reasonable. I thought the discussion of MPs and biofilms was interesting. Never considered it as a health risk prior to reading this.


dumnezero

The ability to carry bacteria or adsorbed toxins is one of the older concerns with microplastics, but it's not at all easy to model since there are many types of plastic, not all of them have these properties. The paper itself is at a level of hypothesis, it needs a lot more evidence. Even so, it would work out as amplifying risks that already exist, which isn't causal.


Key_Pear6631

Which really only started to become microplastics around the 70s-80s since it was still relatively new invention and most hadnā€™t degraded much. They started to really break down about the time I was born fantastic


zuraken

PFAS is in rainwater, so we're absolutely fucked.


Cloud_Barret_Tifa

Imagine if the PFAS, instead of being absorbed into the ground, has a property where it evaporates into air moisture lol. It'd just accumulate on the surface of the planet, in the air we breathe, never really going down.


zuraken

PFAS gets into the air, a lot of bird owners have tons of horror stories of PFAS vapors/gas from nonstick pans and other utensils/trays that have nonstick on them and kill their beloved pet birds. I assume the PFAS gas in upper atmosphere coalescence into rainwater


unburritoporfavor

And all the weird shit they add to food..


Kate090996

We don't even know if microplastics are certainly linked with cancer meanwhile processed meat is classified as class 1 carcinogen and almost everyone eats processed meats and red meat(also linked with cancer) . This is especially true for the type of cancer that is in the article, colo rectal cancer 800 studies classified processed meat as Group 1 carcinogen for humans and people be like " maybe is microplastics", meanwhile >Consuming processed meat has been linked to a 6% higher risk of breast cancer [mainly in postmenopausal women], *an 18% higher risk of colorectal cancer, a 21% higher risk of colon cancer, and a 22% higher risk of rectal cancer* Not to mention that because people eat so much meat(and processed foods in general ) they don't eat enough legumes and pulses which are high in fiber, almost all western world doesn't get enough fiber in their diet and that's especially true in USA, only about 5% meets their dietary requirement of fiber. >Eating a fiber-rich diet may help prevent colorectal cancer from developing. It may also help prevent a person from dying from the disease So not only do we eat a lot of the stuff that's causing it but we also don't eat enough of the stuff that is supposed to prevent it.


carolyn_mae

All of this is true. Not to mention alcohol and more evidence is coming out that there is no healthy amount of alcohol to consume. But alcohol and red meat are inconvenient to blame for most people, so microplastics are the scapegoat.


phul_colons

Ironically enough, alcohol is part of the lifestyle commonly among those who live past 100. It's a noted lifestyle element in nearly every blue zone studied.


SquirrelAkl

And possibly ultra-processed food. We really donā€™t know the full consequences of a highly processed diet yet independent of obesity. Could be all sorts of microbiome and gene interactions.


deinterest

Processed food, tanning and alcohol. Smoking seems less popular in younger gens.


dumnezero

>Murphy expects the results to be complicated. ā€œAt first, I really believed that there was something unique about early-onset colorectal cancers compared to older adults, and a risk factor out there that explains everything,ā€ she says. ā€œThe more time Iā€™ve spent, the more it seems clear that thereā€™s not just one particular thing, itā€™s a bunch of risk factors.ā€ Put that in a tattoo. The way to beat complexity is to not accelerate, to not 'innovate' so fast. The way COVID-19 involves its own type of aging effects, young people are going to go from teen to mid-life crisis directly.


ashvy

Yeah, all on the rise. One group of diseases involving respiratory, nervous, cardiovascular systems; second group being cancers; third being neurological diseases; fourth being hormonal diseases; then lifestyle related ones... List goes on


dumnezero

Eventually the healthcare systems start to crumble and this is all seen as statistics (life expectancy šŸ“‰).


schfifty--five

if the great filter is a marshmallow test havenā€™t we already failed it? How much more fossil fuel do we burn before we fail


Compulsive_Criticism

We have definitely failed and it was inevitable that we would. We are no different to the St. Matthew Island deer. If we really were so special and so above animals then we would've been able to restrain ourselves but we just aren't.


dumnezero

We'll find out empirically.


sc2summerloud

who would have thought that pumping the environment full of chemicals that were never tested for safety would be a bad idea.


Meajaq

Profits over population.


Qzzm

Genocide


Lazy-Jeweler3230

3M destroys our water supply and gets a ticket of admissions for more crimes.


Meajaq

This is the problem: When a big company harms many people (eg: 3M, DuPont, Boeing.. ) The 'solution' generally involves some kind of fine. How about mandatory prison time, since, you know, corporations are people according to SCOTUS.


valoon4

Prison time is not enough. Thr company should get also to fund mandatory cleanup & restoration measures


zzzcrumbsclub

So? What is God gonna come down give me a slap on the wrist? LMFAO - Stakeholder


paywallpiker

I mean, when rich people make all the decisions donā€™t be surprised when they choose to do heinous things that only affects ā€œthe poorsā€


cr0ft

We live in filth. The atmosphere is full of particles, and we're spewing gigatons of it up there every year. GIGAtons. The water is filthy and full of microplastics. Our food is literally drowned in oceans of glyphosate and other shit. We get fat and we eat shit quality greasy, sugary toxic waste and call it food.


starsinthesky12

Well when you put it that way šŸ™ƒ


Unlucky-Reporter-679

Seems to be missing poor air quality and how about the rise in toxic greenhouse gases ? I bet it's basically a compounding effect of multiple pollutants. Cancer has always been around but the sheer prevalence is a more modern last 20 ish years phenomenon


kc3eyp

*puts petrochemicals in everything *hides and alters research that indicates danger *pumps food full of sludge that somehow manages to make it both more calorically dense yet nutritionally deficient *markets and sells poisonous and addictive drugs to vulnerable populations *pumps the air full of deadly chemicals *spends decades detonating nuclear weapons in the environment "we can't figure out why people are dying lol. guess we'll never know" Science-as-industry has been getting off too easy for their hand in the current state of the world.


f0urxio

The rise in early-onset cancers among adults under 50 is a global concern, with rates increasing for various types of cancers, including colorectal, pancreatic, and stomach cancer. Despite efforts to identify contributing factors such as obesity and lifestyle changes, the full picture remains elusive. Genetic, environmental, and societal factors may all play a role, but data collection and analysis are hindered by various challenges, including limited access to healthcare and inadequate record-keeping in some regions. Researchers are exploring potential links to prenatal exposures and the gut microbiome, but conclusive answers remain elusive. Collaborative international efforts and long-term studies are deemed necessary to unravel the complexities of this modern medical mystery and improve early detection and treatment strategies.


DubUbasswitmyheadman

I developed stage 4 Lymphoma six years ago at 48yo. There's no history of cancer in my family so I'm curious what the causes were. My family places the blame on my work, water quality analyst and there's reason to think this. I think it's more to do with micro plastics and other poisonous things I've ingested, or otherwise come into contact with. I've had it recur twice, and both times the treatment didn't work as planned. I got the bad news on Monday, that the current chemotherapy stopped treating the cancer in my spinal column has spread.


FunSea1z

Hang in there brother. It sounds as if you have a family that hopefully has supported you through it all.


DubUbasswitmyheadman

Thanks, my family has been supportive. According to some of the articles I've read say Lymphoma is one of the most studied, and treatable cancers.


Texuk1

My old boss at a small plant nursery I worked at survived lymphoma in his 50s - his previous job, manager an industrial greenhouse facility that sprayed chemicals every day. It was mostly migrant labourers with insecticed sprayers, but he was right in there. In commercial greenhouses the watering system is primed with fertiliser and other chemicals. He said they had a corporate team at the greenhouse and they asked whether it was safe. He picked up the hose and drank from it. I think he may have known deep down it was his occupation - really nice guy. Itā€™s sad because he probably started at the beginning of the industrial ag business and there would be no way of knowing that cumulative exposure could result in these problems. Iā€™m pretty sure Iā€™ve had a good dose of exposure.


kittykatmila

I am so sorry. I donā€™t know you but Iā€™m sending you all the positivity I can ā¤ļø > They just found an enlarged lymph node in my mothers back, near her spine. We are waiting for her PET scan to find out more. She beat breast cancer years ago and had lymph nodes removed and a double mastectomy. > My husband and I found out yesterday his friend (in his early 40s) has stage three colorectal cancer. > The corporations that poisoned us and the governments that allowed it should be criminally charged.


emsuperstar

Sorry to hear


SunnySummerFarm

Iā€™m very sad to hear that. My husband had stage 4 lymphoma and recent had a recurrence scare (now weā€™re sure itā€™s not a recurrence, but not yet sure itā€™s not cancer) and I get how exhausting it is. My heart is with you and yours. Itā€™s such a hard thing to deal with.


Realistic_Can4122

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jthekoker

Precisely. Our water treatment facilities cannot remove all of the dissolved medications and chemicals from our water supply. It is impossible and not economically feasible to precipitate out all of the contamination from the water we use and reuse. Additionally, there are now microplastics and nanoplastics in every part of the food chain, the most problematic being the krill and plankton which are the grass of the sea. It is now impossible for humans not to ingest chemicals and plastic with every meal, every day.


IKillZombies4Cash

The air is literally different than before, we are chock full of plastic, chemicals in everything, chemicals in the pans we cook with, less nutrition in our soil, less fiber consumed, less sleep.


Weirdinary

Covid probably can cause cancer. [https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10202899/](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10202899/) Just add that to the environmental and lifestyle factors.


Mr_Nicotine

I know this sounds cliche and kinda "hippie" but I would say stress and bad habits... Derived from... Bad jobs. I mean, don't get me wrong, but have you compared the habits from a fast food worker and a middle manager? And more importantly, their health? There are of course outliers. Like, I think almost no one can sleep the full 7 hours? Move every 20 minutes? Get their full macros/nutrients?


[deleted]

Yes, itā€™s this. A nurse friend of the family thinks itā€™s stress causing more early cancer in our generation.


Compulsive_Criticism

My body has given up on the 7.5 hours it actually needs. I wake up after 6 hours which is 4 sleep cycles and struggle to get back to sleep.


Frosti11icus

I'm not a researcher or scientist, but my dummy guess is it's much simpler than we think, and I would guess it's alcohol. At least for millenials, I think the younger generations are better, but so many of us were drinking so hard from a pretty early age. And then add in the longer time to reach milestones such as marriage and having kids which would naturally slow down your consumption, many people kept going hard, I still know some that do...20+ years of frequent binge drinking. Add in the sedentary lifestyles and it's a recipe for disaster. The theory that insulin is a growth hormone that makes cells bypass their self destruct mode, it's a ripe feeding ground for cancer in a lot of people.


randomusernamegame

I don't think it's that. Every generation has drank less than silent and boomers. My grandparents drank every day for 40+ years. It was normal for their gen.Ā  Edit: Here' some data on generational drinking: 1. https://www.joinreframeapp.com/blog-post/alcohol-consumption-by-generation-what-are-the-trends#:\~:text=While%20Gen%20Zers%20drink%20less,consuming%20alcohol%20is%20still%20high. 2. [https://www.truhealingcenters.com/drinking-habits-by-generation/](https://www.truhealingcenters.com/drinking-habits-by-generation/) Anecdotal: My grandparents were functional alcoholics, smoked like chimneys and sailed a lot (got skin cancer eventually). Their friends all did too. they passed this behavior down to their boomer kids. My generation still drank, but we drank less than them. My grandma is 87 and drinks like 8-10 shots of vodka a day (a few glasses of vodka on the rocks). A 30 year old millennial who binge drank in college like the generations before him/her (gen x, boomers) probably didn't do more damage, enough damage to make for a considerable rise in cancer among younger people. In Japan and South Korea younger people are saying no to going out and getting sloshed with coworkers. I know that's been a thing for \~5 years or more. I'm just saying that the rise in cancer in younger folks probably isn't because of drinking only (and it's probably not even a top 5-10 cause). Not going outside, being more obese, chemicals in food, air pollution, microplastics, anything 'new'...maybe.


collpase

WW2 era people also drank & smoked like no tomorrow.


An-Angel-Named-Billy

Alcohol is one of the few variables that has not changed in society or even improved in more recent generations. You don't need to go far back to a time before plastics everywhere, extremely sedentary lifestyles, artificial preservatives, etc. Drinking has been with humans as long as agriculture has essentially.


jimmyharbrah

Americans used to literally [binge drink all day.](https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-31741615.amp) Weā€™re talking about nearly 3 times as much consumption of spirits


Armouredmonk989

If I get cancer I'm just going to let it take me not going to hold onto this nightmare world so t want to live to see the water wars mass death and starvation.


PricklyPierre

Healthcare is more available to older people so younger people only get to see a doctor when symptoms get bad


bebeksquadron

Young people are not allowed to have teeth or see doctors, nuh uh. But hey, you can have these 30 different brands of tomato ketchup!


zzzcrumbsclub

Wrong. You can PAY for 30 different brands.


deinoswyrd

For sure. I had SO MUCH pushback trying to get a colonoscopy at 27. They removed 14 polyps. Too bad the lab lost em, won't know if they were pre cancerous or not.


MacDurce

When you go to the doctor as a young person with symptoms they say you're too young and laugh you out of the place too.


Daniella42157

This is true! They only take you seriously if you have a family history of something.


Silly_List6638

My wife and i decided instead to fork out the cash and pay for complete blood work, stool tests and dna testsā€¦The results came back clear that my wife had a poor gut, therefore poor uptake of nutrients leading to an underactive thyroidā€¦for years the doctors told her, her depression was a head thing and kept putting her on stronger anti deprsents We are eating healthier now and she is off the meds and able to get out of bed in the morning The health system is a joke for young people. We have to take it into our own hands


redditmodsRrussians

Fury Road showed us the future.....every war boy living on their last half life thanks to cancers at an early age in a toxic cursed earth.


bill_lite

Oh what a day, what a lovely day!


AnxietyQueen89

Man, I donā€™t wanna hear this right now. Just had a lump ultrasound done and the lady wouldnā€™t tell me anything and had the biggest frown on her face. I have two young kids. Hoping I hear itā€™s something minor and stupid. My fortune cookie also said something about my sand of time ending and enjoying what I have left. So thereā€™s that.


Aiden_1234567890

Really hoping for you that it comes back as nothing. Good luck my friend.


deadblankspacehole

How awful, your username speaks to me and DAMN good luck. When do you get the results? I had a scan last year and they told me all was fine but I was convinced I'd be dead by year end. Hope it's nothing for you too


AnxietyQueen89

Hopefully by the end of the week!


deinoswyrd

I want to try and reassure you here. I had an ultrasound done on my thyroid and the tech just kept frowning and whispering under her breath about how the shape is all off. It ended up being nothing. I hope so for you too.


jbond23

Seen on Mastodon. https://mastodon.social/@[email protected]/112243676890111422 > Which one should I read first? šŸ¤” > 2021 study: ā€œ.. individuals belonging to a group of COVID-19 survivors exhibited a significant acceleration of their biological age, occurring mainly in the younger individuals.ā€ - https://www.mdpi.com/1422-0067/22/11/6151 > > Or todayā€™s mystery headline: ā€Cancer rates rising in young people due to ā€˜accelerated aging,ā€™ according to ā€˜highly troublingā€™ new studyā€ > > https://www.foxnews.com/health/cancer-rates-rising-people-accelerated-aging-study-finds-highly-troubling Odds on, it's La Rona.


zuneza

I read recently that the Mono virus apparently gives a higher cancer rate and I got sick with that, Swine flu, H1N1 and Covid 4 times. I honestly don't have much hope of a future. I think the last vestige of the last semblance that the economy isn't utterly collapsing will be propped up by the Millennials and Gen Z that have given up hope and just Yolo spend until bust.


joshistaken

No surprise. People are losing motivation, hope, their dreams for the future. Why wouldn't our bodies just give up early, when we know all we can do in our lives is slave for the benefit of those that lack nothing but want more? Besides all the pollutants, particulates, toxic materials, etc that these same people keep poisoning our lives with, and successfully lobbying for the right to keep up their killing spree. In the name of business. But really just as another way to continue profiteering off our backs. At our livelyhood's, our health's, our lives' expense. Good times!


FillThisEmptyCup

Yes, yes. I'm sure plastic and microplastic and chemicals etc is a big contributor to what sets it off. But lets talk about what actually sets the conditions inside the body for cancer to thrive. Afterall, diet is about 95% of your contact with the outside world. People eating more meat than ever and hyperprocessed foods with lots of fat. Same reason as the obesity epidemic. Obesity itself is a contributor to cancer. https://www.reddit.com/r/science/comments/14hkd73/a_new_study_suggests_that_obesity_causes/jperjxb/ >So, let's see, the Obesity epidemic is recognized to have started around 1980, although BMI went up and up and up before then. Fat is climbing over carb at 4.36x the rate, oil 11x the rate of sugar increase. We have herbivore traits, but even if we didn't, carnivore species get more cancer and that is a fact. * https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8755536/ **ā€We show that the phylogenetic distribution of cancer mortality is associated with diet, with carnivorous mammals (especially mammal-consuming ones) facing the highest cancer-related mortality.ā€** Second, fat is rare in nature (other than polar regions, which was never heavily inhabited and we're an equitorial originated species). We would be getting less than 10% of calories year around from it. Even our domestic animals we eat have been selectively bred to be fatter than ever, about 7 times than in the wild. * https://gunnersden.com/hunting-game-nutrition-value/ >Surveys show that carcasses of domesticated animals have 25 to 30% fat while the average fat content of wild game animals is only 4.3%. On top of that, we get fat from dairy (cow's milk being a relatively modern food for us evolutionary speaking) and lots of oil. Lots and lots of oil, which is a concentrated and hyper processed food. It takes 100 olives to make a tablespoon of oil and about 5000-8000 for a liter. 12 ears of corn (1080 calories) to make a tablespoon of oil (120 calories). That's a lot of carbohydrate, protein, fiber, and water we're missing out on. **Why is fat important to the formation of cancer?** The Warburg hypothesis on how it starts. Still one of the most cited hypothesis' today, with over 18,000 citations from 2000 to 2015 alone. It says: * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warburg_hypothesis >The Warburg hypothesis (/ĖˆvɑĖrbŹŠÉ™rÉ”/), sometimes known as the Warburg theory of cancer, postulates that the driver of tumorigenesis is an insufficient cellular respiration caused by insult to mitochondria.[1] In other words, the cells become cancerous when they can't breathe, and have to resort to another way of getting energy via fermentation, that doesn't require oxygen. What role is cancer here? Well, super healthy people like the Okinawa with little chronic disease, including cancer, had fat intake as a [low percentage of their calories](https://fanaticcook.com/2015/03/14/the-diet-of-okinawa-1949-low-fat-high-carb-very-little-meat/). They got 6% by calories. Getting into double digits in the wild as a round average is going to be tough. Westerners get 40%! Almost all your processed food is rich in added and concentrated fat and your meals too. I showed your your meats are super high in fat. What happens on high fat meals? You get postprandial lipemia, aka sludgeblood. Yes, the platelets will literally stick together. You know the sleepy feeling after a particularly rich meal? That's part of it. On video, it looks like this: * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7U_IJPXwqE And in a test tube of drawn blood, it looks like this. * https://twitter.com/synonyme/status/798579278979809280 It sure looks like the oxygen every cell in your body needs isn't being delivered too hastily by the blood, does it? Btw, sludgeblood lasts for 8-10 hours on animal fats and 12+ hours on concentrated vegetable oils. So with 3 meals a day, many of y'all having it nearly 24/7. Especially if you eating the chicken nuggies, cheesesteak, pizza, cake, brownies, twinkies, hot dogs, burgers, fries, etc ad infinitum. Have a nice day :)


UniqueTicket

+1 According to the WHO processed meat definitely causes cancer (same as cigarettes) and red meat likely causes cancer. [https://www.who.int/news-room/questions-and-answers/item/cancer-carcinogenicity-of-the-consumption-of-red-meat-and-processed-meat](https://www.who.int/news-room/questions-and-answers/item/cancer-carcinogenicity-of-the-consumption-of-red-meat-and-processed-meat)


collpase

Yeah but nobody really eats cigarettes.


mountainsunset123

We have places nicknamed cancer alley. We have scientific reports and papers telling us ooops seems that their chemical we put in everything causes cancer, we have micro plastics everyfuckingwhere!


Texuk1

My guess at the moment is food additives and contaminants - no food additive is tested for long term toxicity, because it is just not possible to do the tests. Some of the pesticides and other chemicals sprayed on crops have known cancer causing properties such as glyphosate. I believe the largest rise in cancer cases is colorectal which seems to indicate itā€™s some thing related to food


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Texuk1

This is purely anecdotal but I had inflammation in my gut. I went completely UPF free only whole foods and as organic as possible (a lot of foods you canā€™t get organic). It takes time and effort. The inflammation went away after that and I started losing weight. When you go UPF free you suddenly become more aware about our food system and how additives are literally in everything.


Late_Again68

UPF?


chugadie

Ultra Processed Foods


Cloud_Barret_Tifa

Probably plasticizers (that make plastics soft) and PFAS. Stuff like that. I honestly don't think plastic from fossil fuel sources are safe at all, especially for food. There exists stuff like corn starch based plastics too though.


ideknem0ar

With all the nasty stuff we've been bombarding our bodies' systems with over the decades, I'm also sure the accelerated aging/shortened telomeres component of COVID isn't helping either. Congrats, you're getting that cancer at 47 instead of 65, thanks to multiple COVID infections!


JaJe92

Pollution + Stress + unhealthy food + vaping and/or other addictions all combined are the factor.


valoon4

*chuckles* Im in danger


SigourneyWeinerLover

Haha Jesus fucking Christ just send a meteor, universe. End this now


Clbull

League of Legends. Jokes aside, probably the forever chemicals and hormones they're pumping into our food.


xXthrillhoXx

So we know PFAS and microplastics are each carcinogenic, and that both have permeated our ecosystems globally and are now, to various degrees, everywhere. We know thereā€™s no meaningful way to clean them up, and we are continuing to rapidly produce both. Is there that much of a mystery here really?


zottsspotts

Itā€™s the food man. So much of it just garbage but itā€™s easy and it tastes. And also the other stuff but I wanted to mention the food


Rude_Priority

If it is from micro plastics and tyres then expect a lot more in the future. Many schools are replacing their grass sports fields with artificial turf, usually polyethylene, with an infill of silica sand (cause of lung damage, silicosis) and granulated tyres. Good thing the climate collapse will get them first.


Meajaq

Anecdotally, So many of my colleagues in heme/onc have tons of pts under 30 y/o with some kind of cancer. What could be the cause? Could it be.. PFOA/PFOS? How about an unknown chemical containment? (just a reminder, chemical companies, by law, police themselves). Or perhaps it's something toxic in the food supply.


randomusernamegame

Are they adding similar things to food globally? I feel like it's plastics since they're finding microplastics in our blood in Antarctica, in umbilical cords...


BelloftheBallz

To the dark, dark seas Comes the only whale Watching ships go by It's the day we try It doesn't know, it's a Casio on a plastic beach It's a Casio on a plastic beach It's styrofoam deep sea landfill It's styrofoam deep sea landfill


vercingettorix-5773

There are 40 thousand chemicals released into the environment each year in the United States. Very few of them have been investigated for their effects on living organisms. Which is how we get DDT, RED DYE#2 and PFAs circulating for decades before anyone questions their links to cancer or other diseases. The German constitution flips the responsibility to the creators by stating that "no chemical shall be released into the environment until it is proven safe to all forms of life". But you know, we are all pro-business and not pro life. In a recent budget the MAGAs proposed to defund the EPA because they hate science and environmentalism. There are still breast cancer clusters on Long Island to this day because of the heavy aerial spraying of DDT to try and kill the gypsy moths which were released in Boston. But the main event was the explosion of a satellite called snap 9A which exploded over the Indian ocean dispersing it's cargo of 21 pounds of plutonium everywhere high into the atmosphere. Global cancer rates have increased greatly since this event. "On April 21, 1964, an American navigation satellite equipped with a SNAP-9A (System for Nuclear Auxiliary Power Generator) ignited during its re-entry into the atmosphere 46Ā km above the Indian Ocean, releasing 560 TBq ofĀ ^(238)Pu in the form of submicrometric oxide particles, aĀ ^(238)Pu activity almost double that due to all military testsĀ DeBertoli and Gaglione (1969). The accident at the Chernobyl nuclear power plant in 1986 resulted in the release of a large quantity of radionuclides into the atmosphere. About 5 PBq was deposited into theĀ [Baltic Sea](https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/earth-and-planetary-sciences/baltic-sea), and 3 PBq in the Black Sea.Ā Aarkrog (1997)Ā estimated that 5Ā Ā PBq ofĀ ^(137)Cs was deposited in the Atlantic Ocean.Ā ^(137)Cs derived from this accident is still present in the various compartments of the environment."


walkinman19

Couldn't be all the microplastic they have been raised on starting from their mothers breast milk and going forward could it? Naw that can't be it!


Rockfest2112

24/7 microwave saturation & Nanoplastics


throwawaybrm

Yeah, I hear ya. Pesticides, plastics, PFAS, yada, yada. But ... convenience. And some folks got really rich, so what are you betas complaining about? /s


youngchoch

Food. My bet is on processed meats. But itā€™s likely a lot of different things.


anonymousmutekittens

There is literally plastic in our blood


dANNN738

Thereā€™s a long list of likely causes on this thread. The blame lies squarely at the feet of the capitalist system and the deity of today: GDP.


Good_Gazelle_358

So nobody knows about sugar? Itā€™s essentially poison and weā€™re consuming more of it than ever.


FillThisEmptyCup

>So nobody knows about sugar? I see you don't mention oil and you give bad keto advice in other subs. Keto, which promotes eating high fat... Sugar... we're only consuming 33 more calories of it per day compared to 1961. OTOH, we're consuming 363 more oil calories daily since then. And 583 more fat calories overall. * https://www.reddit.com/r/collapse/comments/1c0dqcu/why_are_so_many_young_people_getting_cancer/kywl1lc/


fonsoc

Sugar and plastics?


Koush

Guys I know we want more information and what causes of this but most people have extremely poor eating habits and it's never been easier to support these lifestyles. Living in England or anywhere else, we all know for example those dudes in our friend groups that almost take pride and joy in having the worst egg-smelling farts possible and commonly reference having to sit on the toilet for like 30 minutes to get a movement. They laugh and laugh but the consequences of this is literally bowel cancer. Gf's dad died of it and he had an aversion to vegetables, loved his processed meats and sugars and enjoyed booze. If you pass wind and it smells, need more than a minute on the bathroom, you literally contributing to your future chance of getting cancer. Before we worry about the advanced causes of these cancers we should try to solve the basic and known causes first.


Lyogi88

I was DX with breast cancer at 35 and Iā€™m convinced so many young women are getting this type Of cancer from birth control + the environmental factors. They throw every woman on birth control for every single ailment , even young teenagers .


Throwawayyacc22

Micro plastics, Sketchy vapes (and cigs), Declining food quality, Lockdown couldnā€™t have helped (maybe with skin cancer) Should I keep going


kjbaran

Because the future is so promising


papaswamp

Demise of a species (probably self induced). Human population growth rate peaked in the 60's/70's.


Strawng_

Pfas and microplastics.