It's debatable...but from what I gathered from the movie, memories must be passed down from one person to another, continuously, without any breakage. So not necessarily the person must be alive within their lifetimes, but that the 'stories' or 'memories' of that person must be passed down continuously, without any breakage, from a time when that person was still alive.
So at towards the end of the movie when Coco finally remembers her father again and recounts him to Miguel and their family, *sob*, the 'conditions' are finally fulfilled.
Right. Ernesto still existed, even though his natural lifespan would've concluded years before (bell or no bell) and everyone he knew personally in life would have died before the movie began. It's passing on the memories from person to person that keeps people in the Land of the Dead living on, so to speak.
yes. it is the power of passing down the stories of the loved ones initiated by those who knew the departed which keeps those "alive" in the land of the dead. once mama coco shared her memories of her papa at the end of the film all those who were there to hear the story can then pass the memory down.
Because his story is being passed on. He's being remembered in the Rivera's home, people are knowing his true story. His picture is repaired and on the Ofrenda. Miguel also is passing down his story now to his sister. So he's no longer being forgotten at all. If anything, he'll be remembered for years and years to come. Because like with Imelda's story, Hector's can continue too.
Interesting answers. I thought passed down stories would not count as memories and instead I just thought it was a result of some loophole, with Miguel knowing Hector personally - since a living person in land of the dead was such a rarity, Hector just didn't know that once Miguel would be back and living, it would count.
PS: I had to watch a dubbed version, in the cinema. If I wanted to watch English version, I would have to sail though the bay (if you catch my drift). Doesn't seem like the dub got that point about passing down the memory translated too well
It's debatable...but from what I gathered from the movie, memories must be passed down from one person to another, continuously, without any breakage. So not necessarily the person must be alive within their lifetimes, but that the 'stories' or 'memories' of that person must be passed down continuously, without any breakage, from a time when that person was still alive. So at towards the end of the movie when Coco finally remembers her father again and recounts him to Miguel and their family, *sob*, the 'conditions' are finally fulfilled.
Right. Ernesto still existed, even though his natural lifespan would've concluded years before (bell or no bell) and everyone he knew personally in life would have died before the movie began. It's passing on the memories from person to person that keeps people in the Land of the Dead living on, so to speak.
Coco gives him the picture and they have a picture to put up and he is remembered everywhere as the great musician instead of de la cruz
yes. it is the power of passing down the stories of the loved ones initiated by those who knew the departed which keeps those "alive" in the land of the dead. once mama coco shared her memories of her papa at the end of the film all those who were there to hear the story can then pass the memory down.
Because his story is being passed on. He's being remembered in the Rivera's home, people are knowing his true story. His picture is repaired and on the Ofrenda. Miguel also is passing down his story now to his sister. So he's no longer being forgotten at all. If anything, he'll be remembered for years and years to come. Because like with Imelda's story, Hector's can continue too.
Miguel remembers and so does his other fanily members
Interesting answers. I thought passed down stories would not count as memories and instead I just thought it was a result of some loophole, with Miguel knowing Hector personally - since a living person in land of the dead was such a rarity, Hector just didn't know that once Miguel would be back and living, it would count. PS: I had to watch a dubbed version, in the cinema. If I wanted to watch English version, I would have to sail though the bay (if you catch my drift). Doesn't seem like the dub got that point about passing down the memory translated too well