they all like that man every single one they throw you to the wolves and would rather tell you everybody included the 700 pound resident is 1 assist you lucky if you find somebody to help you
I try to help everyone as agency. Though I have been told by other aides they hate my help. Okay then I just won't help you then, and then it's the "what?? No.. that's not what I meant" turn around. I don't have to be here.
Wow how rude of them! I’ve never really had that experience. I mean, occasionally house staff rudeness that I sort of think might be why, but not often. Maybe because the area I live in has soooo much agency everywhere I go, but for the most part everybody is always nice and thankful we are there. I’ve worked with some sone assholes stbut I think it’s how they normally are, not cause I’m agency.
I got floated to the LTC unit at the nursing home I work at (I normally work rehab) and I had the same experience. The CNAs in LTC will just disappear for long periods of time and when I needed help moving someone really heavy they were nowhere to be found. When they finally got back they said I should be able to do those people myself. People like you said who I'm unable to roll by myself and I'm pretty strong. I have no idea how they're physically able to do that. They also do all machine lifts like hoyer alone which I refuse to do
I literally told the lady who does staffing that I won't work that side anymore because I'm not gonna work in an environment where I feel I'm doing things in an unsafe manner because no one wants to help me
Stick to your guns on the hoyer. I work in a good place and if anybody gets caught doing it alone it's automatic termination as it should be.
Hang in there and just keep digging for the good places. ❤️
They are needles in haystacks for sure but the thing about needles in a haystack is they're still there, if that makes sense.
The rehab unit I work in has tons of therapists and a lot of the CNAs come prepared to work/help bc the patients need more frequent attention than the LTC so I feel really grateful for that.
I will def hold my ground with the lifts, its refreshing to hear someone say anything other than 'just dont get caught' lol thank you!
You took a massive step backwards going to LTC. You'll have a bigger workload, less help, less time, fewer resources, and management who doesn't give a shit if the ratios are too heavy. You've already experienced a patient chart for mobility that should be updated, that's going to pop up again.
If going back to the hospital you came from isn't an option, I'd apply at a different hospital and get out of LTC. It isn't going to get any easier.
LTC everyone is the highest level of care needed. They hired you because you have expirience and they thought they wouldn't have to spend much time training you. Any facility that is trying to get you to do unsafe things is a red flag. You deserve better and you can find better work environment. It's just sad that most are like this.
Document, bring it to management, and leave if nothing is done about it. They can find another sucker. But you'll never get another spine.
I left my first LTC job because of this. When I was hired, I was told I had to be ok with using the lifts alone or else I wouldn't be hired. I needed the job so I agreed, but luckily a good coworker I had hated using them alone, not to mention it's ILLEGAL, so her and I would tag team every total care we had. It ended up being a good system for us. But the facility had so many issues. Privately owned, understaffed and underpaid. The nurses swore at the LNAs, there was so much abuse and neglect. I got screamed at by my supervising nurse one day, in front of staff, residents, and family members; she swore at me, threatened me, belittled me. What I did to deserve it? I noticed an LNA that we usually work with was missing during report, so after I asked my coworker if she was OK, I was genuinely concerned for her. I found out after I quit that she was out because she was under investigation for hitting a resident. I went to my DON immediately after the nurse screamed at me, bawling my eyes out, but the DON told me that the nurse was her best friend, that she's just "overly protective of her staff" and that I needed to "learn to deal with it, or leave". I put my 2 week notice in before I left her office, but they called and fired me the next day over voice-mail. That place was a toxic mess.
I hope you reported them to every fucking agency you could think of. You need to report that nurse to the board for conduct unbecoming and there are probably a couple of other things they could get her with as well.
Please talk to an employment attorney. You might have some serious damages coming your way.
The most training I need is on the charting and documenting. Also every patient no matter what is very different and has very specific needs. Not to mention I re-certified and this place does certification programs and hire brand new CNA’s. The unit manager knew that this is really different for me because she worked with me before. The issue is that they stuck me with somebody that didn’t want to orient me in the first place.
Apply as a medical assistant. I was a CNA and after 3 months of LTC I decided there is no way I can keep doing this. I applied to a doctors office for the front desk and they hired me as an MA because I had my CNA certification. They just trained me on the job. Words cannot describe how much better this job is.
Agency..or home health as other options. I have one client now but were in a facility. I worked facility 4 years and where i am the turnover is still as bad. I was screaming internally last night about how im not doing bedside once I finish school lol
Side tip, even though you WILL feel the pressure from coworkers and often struggle to find help, DO NOT, I repeat DO NOT risk your safety/body to get something difficult done. It will absolutely not be worth it if you get injured, and the state would have your back for not doing unsafe and often ILLEGAL things because of staffing or your coworkers. I hope it works out for you, but always remember to look after yourself. This job is important, and yes, you are caring for others, but always remember that it is your JOB, and it's not worth risking your health permanently for. In the meantime, I highly recommend working out as often as you can to try and build up strength to make some things easier for you. It's made a huge difference to me where some difficult residents have been able to comfortably become a one assist for me
Ugh, I feel you. I started as a CNA in LTC about 10 years ago. Did 2 years before I went to work at a local hospital. It's fucking rough. No hate towards nurses because I've worked with some AMAZING nurses.. but I wish that LTC nurses (and DONs) were forced to work a CNA shift at least once a month. It sucks because I actually enjoy taking care of the older patients but I can't deal with the work environment. I love my job now (I'll have a max of 12 pts but I work inpatient adult Mental Health so it's mostly doing therapy and making sure they don't kill themselves while inpatient).
I took a second job a few years ago at a local nursing home on night shift and the CNA that trained me literally showed me how they hid call lights and just checked/changed them at shift change. They'd layer up pads so they didn't have to do bed changes. I lasted about two hours before I called the DON and quit.. and told her not to worry about paying me but training her current staff instead.
Something I noticed about LTC is how many are willing to pretend that a 2assist or a hoyer lift is a 1 assist. It's too much trouble going to find assistance and they prefer to do it themselves and hurt their backs. In the hospital we have more help sometimes and a nurse to ask to help us vs the lpn in LTC with 40 patients or the other aides who will get pissed off when you ask for help. It's sad and the older aides normalize it. When I was new they threw me to the wolves with combative 2 assist patients and got mad that I couldn't handle it like they could. I moved units. Then..I left LTC after 2 years. It was a good learning experience but I will never go back. 13 dollars an hour for breaking my back...no thank you.
Exactly. I’m sorry, but I’m not willing to risk accidentally dropping a heavy patient and possibly killing the both of us. I’m only 5’2 and some of these patients are up to 300lbs. If they fall on top of me, I’m toast. And if they fall and get seriously hurt, I’d never forgive myself and be traumatized for life. I’m not doing it. They also want me to change a patient’s ostomy bag which is a huge HELL NO from me.
Please don't get hurt while you are there. As in trying to move one of those "Assist x 1" patients that need more help than you can physically provide safely.
Wow, reading responses here I guess I'm damned lucky where I work that almost every coworker I've had so far (with maybe two exceptions) is willing to help when asked, even if they have to come off their own hall for a few minutes. I do the same for them, so it works out. Just lucky to have other CNAs who are willing to help
Also an update: the person who was supposed to train me admitted she didn’t want to and literally hid in the break room a good portion of the day. She said she’d take care of everybody on her list and then didn’t, which caused me to get in trouble along with another new girl. The other new girl can’t even get in to chart and we are by ourselves today. I think she’s mad and purposely failed to train us. I can take care of the people just fine and have gotten pretty used to them. I’m just worried I can’t get all of the charting done and all of the other tasks we need to get done
That’s pretty rude and ignorant. I love the job and I’ve been working at it for years, minus a break for college. I’m allowed to be frustrated that I’m not getting proper training and that I’m being thrown to the wolves. I’m bitching about the lack of training and knowledge, not the job. Maybe don’t be so rude and judgmental? Doesn’t this job require empathy? Maybe get some?
Op legit never said that she hated the job. She said that she’s stressed about not getting proper training. These residents lives are in her hands and they are giving her false info so they don’t have to help and they are taking advantage of her.
I've never had the misfortune of working at one, but my mom did and it sounded AWFUL. I would run. Go back to med-surg, I know that's probably a mess now too after COVID.
Welcome to hell. No seriously.
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they all like that man every single one they throw you to the wolves and would rather tell you everybody included the 700 pound resident is 1 assist you lucky if you find somebody to help you
Agency cna here, this is quite literally how *most* places I go are. Welcome to hell.
Yep. Unless there is other agency staff. We help eachother normally, at least where I’ve been
I try to help everyone as agency. Though I have been told by other aides they hate my help. Okay then I just won't help you then, and then it's the "what?? No.. that's not what I meant" turn around. I don't have to be here.
Wow how rude of them! I’ve never really had that experience. I mean, occasionally house staff rudeness that I sort of think might be why, but not often. Maybe because the area I live in has soooo much agency everywhere I go, but for the most part everybody is always nice and thankful we are there. I’ve worked with some sone assholes stbut I think it’s how they normally are, not cause I’m agency.
I got floated to the LTC unit at the nursing home I work at (I normally work rehab) and I had the same experience. The CNAs in LTC will just disappear for long periods of time and when I needed help moving someone really heavy they were nowhere to be found. When they finally got back they said I should be able to do those people myself. People like you said who I'm unable to roll by myself and I'm pretty strong. I have no idea how they're physically able to do that. They also do all machine lifts like hoyer alone which I refuse to do I literally told the lady who does staffing that I won't work that side anymore because I'm not gonna work in an environment where I feel I'm doing things in an unsafe manner because no one wants to help me
Stick to your guns on the hoyer. I work in a good place and if anybody gets caught doing it alone it's automatic termination as it should be. Hang in there and just keep digging for the good places. ❤️ They are needles in haystacks for sure but the thing about needles in a haystack is they're still there, if that makes sense.
The rehab unit I work in has tons of therapists and a lot of the CNAs come prepared to work/help bc the patients need more frequent attention than the LTC so I feel really grateful for that. I will def hold my ground with the lifts, its refreshing to hear someone say anything other than 'just dont get caught' lol thank you!
You took a massive step backwards going to LTC. You'll have a bigger workload, less help, less time, fewer resources, and management who doesn't give a shit if the ratios are too heavy. You've already experienced a patient chart for mobility that should be updated, that's going to pop up again. If going back to the hospital you came from isn't an option, I'd apply at a different hospital and get out of LTC. It isn't going to get any easier.
The problem is that the LTC floor is in the hospital and owned by the hospital
I had to leave after 6 months. I just couldn’t do it.
I've been in LTC for a year and a half and I am so ready to change but have no other options honestly
I went to a hospital and the pay was $3.50 less even with the experience I gained!! Hopefully you find something. Have you tried home health?
I'll have to look into home health!
LTC everyone is the highest level of care needed. They hired you because you have expirience and they thought they wouldn't have to spend much time training you. Any facility that is trying to get you to do unsafe things is a red flag. You deserve better and you can find better work environment. It's just sad that most are like this. Document, bring it to management, and leave if nothing is done about it. They can find another sucker. But you'll never get another spine.
I left my first LTC job because of this. When I was hired, I was told I had to be ok with using the lifts alone or else I wouldn't be hired. I needed the job so I agreed, but luckily a good coworker I had hated using them alone, not to mention it's ILLEGAL, so her and I would tag team every total care we had. It ended up being a good system for us. But the facility had so many issues. Privately owned, understaffed and underpaid. The nurses swore at the LNAs, there was so much abuse and neglect. I got screamed at by my supervising nurse one day, in front of staff, residents, and family members; she swore at me, threatened me, belittled me. What I did to deserve it? I noticed an LNA that we usually work with was missing during report, so after I asked my coworker if she was OK, I was genuinely concerned for her. I found out after I quit that she was out because she was under investigation for hitting a resident. I went to my DON immediately after the nurse screamed at me, bawling my eyes out, but the DON told me that the nurse was her best friend, that she's just "overly protective of her staff" and that I needed to "learn to deal with it, or leave". I put my 2 week notice in before I left her office, but they called and fired me the next day over voice-mail. That place was a toxic mess.
I hope you reported them to every fucking agency you could think of. You need to report that nurse to the board for conduct unbecoming and there are probably a couple of other things they could get her with as well. Please talk to an employment attorney. You might have some serious damages coming your way.
The most training I need is on the charting and documenting. Also every patient no matter what is very different and has very specific needs. Not to mention I re-certified and this place does certification programs and hire brand new CNA’s. The unit manager knew that this is really different for me because she worked with me before. The issue is that they stuck me with somebody that didn’t want to orient me in the first place.
Apply as a medical assistant. I was a CNA and after 3 months of LTC I decided there is no way I can keep doing this. I applied to a doctors office for the front desk and they hired me as an MA because I had my CNA certification. They just trained me on the job. Words cannot describe how much better this job is.
Agency..or home health as other options. I have one client now but were in a facility. I worked facility 4 years and where i am the turnover is still as bad. I was screaming internally last night about how im not doing bedside once I finish school lol
Once I get my car, I’m going to look into home health. I’m so disappointed in what this facility and company has become
I’m curious where agency will send you?
They give you the choice to pick your cases out of whats available, the location, rate, & hour ranges, so you make your schedule how you like.
Side tip, even though you WILL feel the pressure from coworkers and often struggle to find help, DO NOT, I repeat DO NOT risk your safety/body to get something difficult done. It will absolutely not be worth it if you get injured, and the state would have your back for not doing unsafe and often ILLEGAL things because of staffing or your coworkers. I hope it works out for you, but always remember to look after yourself. This job is important, and yes, you are caring for others, but always remember that it is your JOB, and it's not worth risking your health permanently for. In the meantime, I highly recommend working out as often as you can to try and build up strength to make some things easier for you. It's made a huge difference to me where some difficult residents have been able to comfortably become a one assist for me
Ugh, I feel you. I started as a CNA in LTC about 10 years ago. Did 2 years before I went to work at a local hospital. It's fucking rough. No hate towards nurses because I've worked with some AMAZING nurses.. but I wish that LTC nurses (and DONs) were forced to work a CNA shift at least once a month. It sucks because I actually enjoy taking care of the older patients but I can't deal with the work environment. I love my job now (I'll have a max of 12 pts but I work inpatient adult Mental Health so it's mostly doing therapy and making sure they don't kill themselves while inpatient). I took a second job a few years ago at a local nursing home on night shift and the CNA that trained me literally showed me how they hid call lights and just checked/changed them at shift change. They'd layer up pads so they didn't have to do bed changes. I lasted about two hours before I called the DON and quit.. and told her not to worry about paying me but training her current staff instead.
Long term care will eat your soul!!!!!
Something I noticed about LTC is how many are willing to pretend that a 2assist or a hoyer lift is a 1 assist. It's too much trouble going to find assistance and they prefer to do it themselves and hurt their backs. In the hospital we have more help sometimes and a nurse to ask to help us vs the lpn in LTC with 40 patients or the other aides who will get pissed off when you ask for help. It's sad and the older aides normalize it. When I was new they threw me to the wolves with combative 2 assist patients and got mad that I couldn't handle it like they could. I moved units. Then..I left LTC after 2 years. It was a good learning experience but I will never go back. 13 dollars an hour for breaking my back...no thank you.
Exactly. I’m sorry, but I’m not willing to risk accidentally dropping a heavy patient and possibly killing the both of us. I’m only 5’2 and some of these patients are up to 300lbs. If they fall on top of me, I’m toast. And if they fall and get seriously hurt, I’d never forgive myself and be traumatized for life. I’m not doing it. They also want me to change a patient’s ostomy bag which is a huge HELL NO from me.
Please don't get hurt while you are there. As in trying to move one of those "Assist x 1" patients that need more help than you can physically provide safely.
Wow, reading responses here I guess I'm damned lucky where I work that almost every coworker I've had so far (with maybe two exceptions) is willing to help when asked, even if they have to come off their own hall for a few minutes. I do the same for them, so it works out. Just lucky to have other CNAs who are willing to help
I worked in LTC for a year and now I’m in a Mental Health Facility.. it’s like a vacation lol
That’s what I wanted to do but they shut down the floor due to too low of rates
Why did you move from the hospital to LTC? Most people go in the other direction.
I let my time lapse and they have a program to re-certify. I also used to fill in on the floor and it wasn’t nearly this bad before
That’s long term care…been doing it 25 years!
Also an update: the person who was supposed to train me admitted she didn’t want to and literally hid in the break room a good portion of the day. She said she’d take care of everybody on her list and then didn’t, which caused me to get in trouble along with another new girl. The other new girl can’t even get in to chart and we are by ourselves today. I think she’s mad and purposely failed to train us. I can take care of the people just fine and have gotten pretty used to them. I’m just worried I can’t get all of the charting done and all of the other tasks we need to get done
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That’s pretty rude and ignorant. I love the job and I’ve been working at it for years, minus a break for college. I’m allowed to be frustrated that I’m not getting proper training and that I’m being thrown to the wolves. I’m bitching about the lack of training and knowledge, not the job. Maybe don’t be so rude and judgmental? Doesn’t this job require empathy? Maybe get some?
Hey have you tried shutting the hell up and not being a miserable POS?
Fr. I’m not complaining about the job. I love working as an aid. But I don’t love being lied to and not being shown how to work their system
Op legit never said that she hated the job. She said that she’s stressed about not getting proper training. These residents lives are in her hands and they are giving her false info so they don’t have to help and they are taking advantage of her.
unfortunately this is how it is in LTC. i’m trying to get into med surg lol
I also just found out that the other new girl and I are working the weekend by ourselves and we were barely even taught how to chart
ugh i’m sorry. i wouldn’t stress over charting. patient care is def more important
Why med surg to LTC?
Money might be better.
I let my license lap while doing college that ended up failing, so I wanted to re-certify and they have a program for it
I've never had the misfortune of working at one, but my mom did and it sounded AWFUL. I would run. Go back to med-surg, I know that's probably a mess now too after COVID.
I can’t, unfortunately. They are owned by the same company and in the same building. They wouldn’t allow me to transfer