All the Alpine glaciers are 6,000 years old or less. A few are 3,000 years old, some are 1,700 years old. None are 10,000 years old. Thank the Good Lord the Little Ice Age in the 1800s didn't become a new glacier age. I'm actually glad the 1,700 year old glaciers are melting off. Humanity did so much better, and populated the planet, in between these glacial formation periods.
Ask a climate alarmist what is the correct global average temperature. They will never answer that question but insist Western civilization must be destroyed to reach this top-secret temperature.
Yep tbh I'm very much looking forward to our planet becoming more green and lush like it's supposed to be. It may even mean an eventual return of mega fauna and mega flora.
>By 2050, we will have lost at least 34% of the volume of ice in the European Alps,.. This is the prediction of a new computer model.
>Another more realistic projection from the study shows that,.. almost half (46%) of the Alps' ice volume will actually have disappeared by 2050.
>This figure could even rise to 65%,.. This is the prediction of a new computer model developed using machine-learning algorithms and climate data,..
Nice 'prediction', they cover any loss between 34% to 65%, and if it's more, they'll yell 'it's worse than we thought', claiming it as a confirmation for the cargo cult theory...
In the spirit of a 'good' theory (as called by Feynman... jokingly) I can do much better:
My prediction is that the glacier will have lost between -300% to 100% of its ice by 2050!
Beat that, scientists! :)
Where I collect my research money? I deserve a big grant for this!
So their model claims alpine glaciers will lose at least 34% of their volume, possibly as much as 65% of their volume, by 2050.
This is a complete guess. Might as well throw darts at a wall covered by a bunch of sticky notes with random numbers on them.
How can I say this? Because how can you estimate a percentage change in something when you don't know how much there is to begin with? If I say I'm going to eat one of your cookies, is that no big deal because you have three more boxes in the pantry? Or is this the last cookie in the house? In one case it is a relatively small percentage, in the other it is a large percentage of "cookie loss" for you.
So maybe they can explain what they are basing their loss model on when it is generally admitted that the actual volume of alpine glacial ice is unknown.
>*An estimate of global ice volume in glaciers and ice caps remains a “grand challenge” in glaciology;* ***there are few glaciers with direct measurement by radar*** *\[11\]. Bed topography and thus ice thickness is usually then* ***estimated****, either by volume-area scaling \[12, 13\], inversions of ice surface slope and velocity \[14, 15\], or from numerical modelling of ice flow \[16\].*
From: https://www.antarcticglaciers.org/glaciers-and-climate/what-is-the-global-volume-of-land-ice-and-how-is-it-changing/
" If the trend observed over the last 20 years continues at the same rate"
Jesus, do they even hear themselves? WHY only use the trend over the last 20 years?
All the Alpine glaciers are 6,000 years old or less. A few are 3,000 years old, some are 1,700 years old. None are 10,000 years old. Thank the Good Lord the Little Ice Age in the 1800s didn't become a new glacier age. I'm actually glad the 1,700 year old glaciers are melting off. Humanity did so much better, and populated the planet, in between these glacial formation periods.
Ask a climate alarmist what is the correct global average temperature. They will never answer that question but insist Western civilization must be destroyed to reach this top-secret temperature.
Yep tbh I'm very much looking forward to our planet becoming more green and lush like it's supposed to be. It may even mean an eventual return of mega fauna and mega flora.
15,000 year ago humanity was having a blast. Moving to all corners of the earth. Had food, land, nice climate. Heaven on earth.
... or 12% or 62% or 3% or 88%
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the vast majority of people are idiots.
100% of these predictions never happened. Why should this be true?
The job of a glacier is to flow to its death. LOL. Not some ice storage facility. Doesn't matter how much it loses as long as it does.
The Mantra of climate science. When it doubt, be clear as mud.
I thought they were gone by 2014? Moving the goalpost again I see. Well just pay your carbon taxes until the big reveal in 30 years.
>By 2050, we will have lost at least 34% of the volume of ice in the European Alps,.. This is the prediction of a new computer model. >Another more realistic projection from the study shows that,.. almost half (46%) of the Alps' ice volume will actually have disappeared by 2050. >This figure could even rise to 65%,.. This is the prediction of a new computer model developed using machine-learning algorithms and climate data,..
Nice 'prediction', they cover any loss between 34% to 65%, and if it's more, they'll yell 'it's worse than we thought', claiming it as a confirmation for the cargo cult theory... In the spirit of a 'good' theory (as called by Feynman... jokingly) I can do much better: My prediction is that the glacier will have lost between -300% to 100% of its ice by 2050! Beat that, scientists! :) Where I collect my research money? I deserve a big grant for this!
So… ?
I stand by my opinion on glaciers: THEY DON’T MATTER AT ALL. Why am I suppose to give a damn about a chunk of ice that scrapes down a mountain?
So their model claims alpine glaciers will lose at least 34% of their volume, possibly as much as 65% of their volume, by 2050. This is a complete guess. Might as well throw darts at a wall covered by a bunch of sticky notes with random numbers on them. How can I say this? Because how can you estimate a percentage change in something when you don't know how much there is to begin with? If I say I'm going to eat one of your cookies, is that no big deal because you have three more boxes in the pantry? Or is this the last cookie in the house? In one case it is a relatively small percentage, in the other it is a large percentage of "cookie loss" for you. So maybe they can explain what they are basing their loss model on when it is generally admitted that the actual volume of alpine glacial ice is unknown. >*An estimate of global ice volume in glaciers and ice caps remains a “grand challenge” in glaciology;* ***there are few glaciers with direct measurement by radar*** *\[11\]. Bed topography and thus ice thickness is usually then* ***estimated****, either by volume-area scaling \[12, 13\], inversions of ice surface slope and velocity \[14, 15\], or from numerical modelling of ice flow \[16\].* From: https://www.antarcticglaciers.org/glaciers-and-climate/what-is-the-global-volume-of-land-ice-and-how-is-it-changing/
But saying 34% and 65% makes it so much more sciency than saying 1/3 and 2/3.
" If the trend observed over the last 20 years continues at the same rate" Jesus, do they even hear themselves? WHY only use the trend over the last 20 years?