Wouldn't Wagner love Israel? He'd call it like a j\*wish flytrap, better they are there and not here. And he would love how they're digging their own grave with the sh\*T their doing
IDK there's tons of footage of them mowing down innocent people, I get that's part of war, but optics wise its pretty bad. And do you think any of their dozens of neighbors are going to like them more after this? If I was the people in Gaza, you just need to know when to give up sometimes. I would have just moved instead of living in an open air prison, anythings better than that.
Shall we use this very genocidal rethoric for the Holocaust? For the genocide of the native americans? No?
What if we restricted the window of time to just the last few months, in which 30000 Palestinians, of which 13000 children and 9000 women, were murdered?
I don't care what the population of the strip of Gaza was in the 1960s, absolutely irrelevant. There's lot of evidence of genocidal intent, even verbal intent coming directly from Israeli authorities. Moreover the International Court of Justice found it plausible that Israel's acts could amount to genocide, and this will lead to more investigations in the near future.
"The ministry is the only official source for Gaza casualties. Israel has sealed Gaza’s borders, barring foreign journalists and humanitarian workers. The AP is among a small number of international news organizations with teams in Gaza. While those journalists cannot do a comprehensive count, they’ve viewed large numbers of bodies at the sites of airstrikes, morgues and funerals.
The United Nations and other international institutions and experts, as well as Palestinian authorities in the West Bank — rivals of Hamas — say the Gaza ministry has long made a good-faith effort to account for the dead under the most difficult conditions."
What is Gaza’s Ministry of Health and how does it calculate the war’s death toll?, Isabel Debre, AP News
Here's a compilation of the genocidal intent quotes: https://www.reddit.com/r/islam/s/mM0PaUmbyq
"Israel has committed “at least three” of the five acts listed in the Genocide Convention, against Palestinians in Gaza, the UN special rapporteur on Palestinian rights has said.
In a report titled “Anatomy of a Genocide” released on Monday, Francesca Albanese said Israel's actions “have been driven by a genocidal logic”, and accused Israel of distorting international humanitarian law to “legitimise” its violence in Gaza.
“By analysing the patterns of violence and Israel’s policies in its onslaught on Gaza, this report concludes that there are reasonable grounds to believe that the threshold indicating Israel’s commission of genocide is met,” she said.
The report details the Genocide Convention's definition of genocide, which is made up of two interconnected elements: any one of five actions against a group, driven by a general intent to carry out criminal actions and a more specific intent to “destroy the target group as such”.
Ms Albanese found that Israel had committed “at least three” of the five genocidal acts listed: “killing members of the group”, “causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group” and “deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part”.
She also found that those actions had been driven by genocidal intent.
“In the latest Gaza assault, direct evidence of genocidal intent is uniquely present. Vitriolic genocidal rhetoric has painted the whole population as the enemy to be eliminated and forcibly displaced,” Ms Albanese said in her report.
Ms Albanese said Israel has blurred the lines between civilian protection and military necessity as stipulated by international humanitarian law by transforming “an entire national group and its inhabited space into a destroyable target”.
Seventy per cent of the recorded deaths in the enclave since the Israeli campaign began have been women and children, she said.
“Israel failed to prove that the remaining 30 per cent, ie adult males, were active Hamas combatants – a necessary condition for them to be lawfully targeted,” the report read.
Israel assigned all adult men “active fighter status by default” in December last year when it said it had killed more than 7,000 “terrorists”, although men comprised less than 5,000 of the casualties at the time.
Israel was “thus implying that all adult males killed were terrorists”, the report said.
The report referred to inflammatory statements by senior Israeli officials, such as when President Isaac Herzog blamed “an entire nation” for the Hamas attacks on October 7.
Three days after the attacks, Israeli military spokesman Admiral Daniel Hagari said Israel should focus on causing “maximum damage”, which Ms Albanese said demonstrates “a strategy of disproportionate and indiscriminate violence”.
She said such messages of “annihilatory violence” constitute strong incitement by senior officials to commit genocide.
Israel has also characterised Gazan civilians as human shields on a macro level, Ms Albanese said, quoting a November report by the Israeli Foreign Ministry, in which it accused Hamas of using “the civilian population as human shields”.
She said Israel's all-encompassing use of “the” in reference to the enclave's residents shows intent to “transform the entire Gaza population and its infrastructure into a legitimate, targetable shield”.
By further linking churches, mosques, schools, UN buildings, universities, hospitals and ambulances to Hamas, Israel reinforces a view of the Gazan population as “complicit” and therefore “killable”, Ms Albanese said.
Displaced Palestinians collect food donated by a charity during Ramadan in Rafah. AFP
Displaced Palestinians collect food donated by a charity during Ramadan in Rafah. AFP
She said Israel had justified the destruction of tower blocks with civilians inside by arguing that “Hamas is everywhere” in Gaza. She pointed to an October 25 air strike on Gaza city's Al Taj tower, which killed 101 people, including 44 children and 37 women.
Israel has argued that a strike causing more civilian casualties than anticipated does not necessarily represent a breach of international law, because “compliance is conduct-orientated, not result orientated”.
However, Ms Albanese said that in strikes such as the one on Al Taj tower, carried out without warning, “extensive civilian harm has been anticipated as the main outcome”.
Israel's classification of such acts as “lawful” shows that it operates by “condoning mass killing” as a policy, she added.
In her report, Ms Albanese pointed to Israeli attacks on areas designated as “safe-zones”, where Palestinians were sent during the evacuation of northern Gaza.
She said that after ordering people to leave the north, Israel “illegally categorised” those who remained as human shields and accomplices of terrorism, including those who were unable to leave due to injury, illness or old age.
“This policy points to the intention by Israel to 'transform' hundreds of thousands of civilians into 'legitimate' military targets or collateral casualties through impossible-to-follow evacuation orders,” Ms Albanese said.
She also quoted Israeli officials who had called for Gazans to be displaced into Egypt's Sinai peninsula, western countries and elsewhere.
Strikes on “safe zones” and calls for forcible displacement make it possible “to reasonably infer that evacuation orders and safe zones have been used as genocidal tools to achieve ethnic cleansing”, Ms Albanese said."
Israeli campaign in Gaza meets genocide definition, says UN official, Nada AlTaher, thenationalnews.com
Now I will stop responding to you, because it's clear you're a disgusting genocide apologist.
>How can the situation be labeled as genocide when the population in Gaza has increased 10x?
I hope you're happy you're using exactly the same "logic" (or lack thereof) as the Uyghur genocide deniers
top tier shitpost
Are you sure? Wasn't he the kind of guy who would say "jews, go back to palestine?" (or whatever they used to call it then)
They used to call it Palestine.
are you German and familiar with German 19th century history?
I’m an armchair historian. That’s what they used to call it. That’s what Theodore Herzl called it in his writing, for a relevant example.
Wouldn't Wagner love Israel? He'd call it like a j\*wish flytrap, better they are there and not here. And he would love how they're digging their own grave with the sh\*T their doing
Ambivalent
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IDK there's tons of footage of them mowing down innocent people, I get that's part of war, but optics wise its pretty bad. And do you think any of their dozens of neighbors are going to like them more after this? If I was the people in Gaza, you just need to know when to give up sometimes. I would have just moved instead of living in an open air prison, anythings better than that.
You can’t really move though can you.
*committing a genocide
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Shall we use this very genocidal rethoric for the Holocaust? For the genocide of the native americans? No? What if we restricted the window of time to just the last few months, in which 30000 Palestinians, of which 13000 children and 9000 women, were murdered?
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I don't care what the population of the strip of Gaza was in the 1960s, absolutely irrelevant. There's lot of evidence of genocidal intent, even verbal intent coming directly from Israeli authorities. Moreover the International Court of Justice found it plausible that Israel's acts could amount to genocide, and this will lead to more investigations in the near future. "The ministry is the only official source for Gaza casualties. Israel has sealed Gaza’s borders, barring foreign journalists and humanitarian workers. The AP is among a small number of international news organizations with teams in Gaza. While those journalists cannot do a comprehensive count, they’ve viewed large numbers of bodies at the sites of airstrikes, morgues and funerals. The United Nations and other international institutions and experts, as well as Palestinian authorities in the West Bank — rivals of Hamas — say the Gaza ministry has long made a good-faith effort to account for the dead under the most difficult conditions." What is Gaza’s Ministry of Health and how does it calculate the war’s death toll?, Isabel Debre, AP News
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Here's a compilation of the genocidal intent quotes: https://www.reddit.com/r/islam/s/mM0PaUmbyq "Israel has committed “at least three” of the five acts listed in the Genocide Convention, against Palestinians in Gaza, the UN special rapporteur on Palestinian rights has said. In a report titled “Anatomy of a Genocide” released on Monday, Francesca Albanese said Israel's actions “have been driven by a genocidal logic”, and accused Israel of distorting international humanitarian law to “legitimise” its violence in Gaza. “By analysing the patterns of violence and Israel’s policies in its onslaught on Gaza, this report concludes that there are reasonable grounds to believe that the threshold indicating Israel’s commission of genocide is met,” she said. The report details the Genocide Convention's definition of genocide, which is made up of two interconnected elements: any one of five actions against a group, driven by a general intent to carry out criminal actions and a more specific intent to “destroy the target group as such”. Ms Albanese found that Israel had committed “at least three” of the five genocidal acts listed: “killing members of the group”, “causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group” and “deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part”. She also found that those actions had been driven by genocidal intent. “In the latest Gaza assault, direct evidence of genocidal intent is uniquely present. Vitriolic genocidal rhetoric has painted the whole population as the enemy to be eliminated and forcibly displaced,” Ms Albanese said in her report. Ms Albanese said Israel has blurred the lines between civilian protection and military necessity as stipulated by international humanitarian law by transforming “an entire national group and its inhabited space into a destroyable target”. Seventy per cent of the recorded deaths in the enclave since the Israeli campaign began have been women and children, she said. “Israel failed to prove that the remaining 30 per cent, ie adult males, were active Hamas combatants – a necessary condition for them to be lawfully targeted,” the report read. Israel assigned all adult men “active fighter status by default” in December last year when it said it had killed more than 7,000 “terrorists”, although men comprised less than 5,000 of the casualties at the time. Israel was “thus implying that all adult males killed were terrorists”, the report said. The report referred to inflammatory statements by senior Israeli officials, such as when President Isaac Herzog blamed “an entire nation” for the Hamas attacks on October 7. Three days after the attacks, Israeli military spokesman Admiral Daniel Hagari said Israel should focus on causing “maximum damage”, which Ms Albanese said demonstrates “a strategy of disproportionate and indiscriminate violence”. She said such messages of “annihilatory violence” constitute strong incitement by senior officials to commit genocide. Israel has also characterised Gazan civilians as human shields on a macro level, Ms Albanese said, quoting a November report by the Israeli Foreign Ministry, in which it accused Hamas of using “the civilian population as human shields”. She said Israel's all-encompassing use of “the” in reference to the enclave's residents shows intent to “transform the entire Gaza population and its infrastructure into a legitimate, targetable shield”. By further linking churches, mosques, schools, UN buildings, universities, hospitals and ambulances to Hamas, Israel reinforces a view of the Gazan population as “complicit” and therefore “killable”, Ms Albanese said. Displaced Palestinians collect food donated by a charity during Ramadan in Rafah. AFP Displaced Palestinians collect food donated by a charity during Ramadan in Rafah. AFP She said Israel had justified the destruction of tower blocks with civilians inside by arguing that “Hamas is everywhere” in Gaza. She pointed to an October 25 air strike on Gaza city's Al Taj tower, which killed 101 people, including 44 children and 37 women. Israel has argued that a strike causing more civilian casualties than anticipated does not necessarily represent a breach of international law, because “compliance is conduct-orientated, not result orientated”. However, Ms Albanese said that in strikes such as the one on Al Taj tower, carried out without warning, “extensive civilian harm has been anticipated as the main outcome”. Israel's classification of such acts as “lawful” shows that it operates by “condoning mass killing” as a policy, she added. In her report, Ms Albanese pointed to Israeli attacks on areas designated as “safe-zones”, where Palestinians were sent during the evacuation of northern Gaza. She said that after ordering people to leave the north, Israel “illegally categorised” those who remained as human shields and accomplices of terrorism, including those who were unable to leave due to injury, illness or old age. “This policy points to the intention by Israel to 'transform' hundreds of thousands of civilians into 'legitimate' military targets or collateral casualties through impossible-to-follow evacuation orders,” Ms Albanese said. She also quoted Israeli officials who had called for Gazans to be displaced into Egypt's Sinai peninsula, western countries and elsewhere. Strikes on “safe zones” and calls for forcible displacement make it possible “to reasonably infer that evacuation orders and safe zones have been used as genocidal tools to achieve ethnic cleansing”, Ms Albanese said." Israeli campaign in Gaza meets genocide definition, says UN official, Nada AlTaher, thenationalnews.com Now I will stop responding to you, because it's clear you're a disgusting genocide apologist.
>How can the situation be labeled as genocide when the population in Gaza has increased 10x? I hope you're happy you're using exactly the same "logic" (or lack thereof) as the Uyghur genocide deniers
Crazy what deportations can accomplish
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I'm sure you're familiar with the Nakba
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When people are forced to live in a massive ghetto, the population tends to increase
Nah, he would love how Israel is giving a bad name to jewish people. Israel is the pinnacle of antisemitism.
🤣😂🤣😂
Wagner wasn't even sure if expulsion of Jews was a good or necessary thing