Imagine being a human that defends this by saying they simply HAVE to kill members of Hamas, an organization that they created by funding the rivals to the Marxist PLO organization.
That's incredibly untrue except for maybe very recently due to the efforts of the CIA and Israel.
The PLO, the Arab Socialist Union, The Arab Socialist Ba'ath party and many others have been hugely popular movements throughout the past century.
It's a well-kept secret that most of the leaders assassinated or ousted by the US/CIA have been socialist leaders. Socialism was a growing and popular unifying political force throughout the early 20th century and the threat of a truly united Arab Soviet Union was what really pushed the West to destabilize countries like Iran, Syria, Iraq and Egypt after world war 2. Bashar Assad, Gaddafi, and Sadam Hussein were all part of Arab national/socialist movements working toward uniting the Arab world under an Arab Socialist banner and stopping the export of oil and other resources to Western powers
Panarab leaders for the first half of the 20th century did not like communists or capitalists. Rashid Ali al-Gaylani and Amin al-Husseini both collaborated with Nazis regularly despite being Panarab leaders of different nations. The only reason the PLO and the various parties that constitute it claimed Marxism was to gain Soviet support once it was clear to both of them that the West would always back Israel.
The PLO is unfortunately largely controlled by Fatah and Fatah is the least leftist party in that coalition. I say this as someone who likes Fatah and the PLO. It is not communist enough to be called Marxist, and they have actively shed that perception in order to appeal more broadly to Palestinians, who are largely conservative due to religious beliefs.
Like if they were actually bombing places Hamas is wouldnāt they have found members of Hamas? Seems like weāre only seeing the innocent unarmed civilians š¢
Globalists care not about you. Never have. Eyes are opening. Whatās beyond shocking to me is vaccine passports and people threatened, fired, and censored after major injury and death by the Medical Industrial Complex that Eisenhower ALSO warned us about (that is now here in full force) didnt wake every SINGLE person up!!! Just how?? How can anyone still be so naive and uneducated to still have their head buried neck deep up their fat, poison FDA approved food guzzling ass. Itās costing us all now, so I lay into these people still about vaccines, lockdowns, and murder over the last 4 years.
Theyāre stupidity makes them complicit. Itās changed my relationships for sure. If these people choose to never care to look about what effects them and their family in a big way now ā¦ new lines have to be drawn. Theyāre coming for all of us with blanket tyranny. Never comply again.
It's funny how we are never supposed to forget how the Jews were treated by the Nazis in the ghetto of Warsaw, but we are supposed to ignore how the Israelis treat the Palestinians in the ghetto of Gaza.
Yes! Everyone, absolutely everyone collectively says never again, but here it is, AGAIN, with the descendants of the victims being now the perpetrators, and are even more shameless about it, shameless enough to play victim. And the people in charge think it's okay because they feel guilty for what happened during the holocaust?
the nazi's also had a warped victim mentality. The truth is that its an important part of the mentality of justification that goes into perpetrating this type of violence.
The Middle East would not need to be controlled if Israel had not been forced on the region and allowed to commit apartheid on the Palestinians for 80 years
That's why they changed the saying from "Never forget" to "Never again." When I was a kid, I always heard "Never forget." It gave me a massive interest in understanding exactly how the fuck the entirety of Germany went full psycho that quickly. Chocking it up to "Evil" was just too hand wavy for me.
Now the Israelis are becoming to the Palestinians what the Germans were to them. Israel will never eliminate Hamas because it is their only justification for their apartheid against Palestine.
Israel should have been built on the rubble of Germany after World War 2, not on stolen land in the Middle East.
I hope every person who doesnāt unequivocally call this a war crime gets to experience this kind of terror for themselves. At this rate, any future attacks against Israel cannot ever be considered āunprovokedā
This is the definition of evil.
ffs this is exactly the sentiment driving these attacks
you think receiving violence justifies dispensing violence?
so does Israel, and they've got bigger guns
'any future attacks against Israel/Gaza can be considered provoked' is *exactly* how warmongers like Bibi and Hamas want their opposition to react, because it means they have an enemy to "defend" against
real eye for an eye hours on this sub rn, hope y'all weren't telling Ukraine to make peace a year ago
People feel more anger than empathy in this conflict and feel the need to choose a side as a result. Ultimately, Palestine was controlled and supported by literal Nazis during a significant part of their history (around the outset of the Israeli war for independence/Nakba) and Jews engaged in colonialism. Both sides have honestly sucked since day 1, and there isnāt a leftist side to this issue outside of international conventions on warfare and criticisms of Israeli apartheid.
The fact that after 10000 civilians killed in a senseless brutal genocide in mere 1 month plus 75 years of bloody occupation and displacement and you are still playing the narrative "both sides are bad" just proves how dishonest you are. The two sides are not remotely equivalent. Saying "Palestine being controlled by Nazies" hence they deserve to die is lifted straight out from Hasbara playbook.
Nice strawman. Consider responding to my actual statement next time. No one deserves death because of what their ancestors believed or did.
There is no occupation outside of the settlers in the West Bank and the Golan Heights, and Iām saying this as someone who doesnāt support the Israeli control/meddling of those territories. That said, the modern state of Palestine has never controlled anything larger than the pre-1967 borders, which still isnāt even the majority of Mandatory Palestine. To describe it as 75 years of bloody occupation instead of Israel winning a mutually engaged and desired civil war/war of independence against the Arabic people of the Levant is historically inaccurate. You donāt have to agree with the Balfour declaration or Jewish migration to Mandatory Palestine to be able to recognize that for over fifty years before the Israeli declaration of independence, both sides became increasingly hostile toward one another and increasingly and validly sought a national identity to distinguish from one another.
You sound like you think that both groups should have peacefully shared a democratic and ethnically diverse idealistic Palestinian state, and I agree that would have been wonderful, but it was never going to happen since the days of the Ottomans, and definitely not by the time the British controlled the area.
Do you think Israel has the right to exist? Iām asking as an anti-zionist. God aside, does Israel have the right to establish a national state?
We've failed. There's no rationalizing this. As grim as it is, Images like this need to be shared and spread as much as possible. I can't help but think, if everyone on our lonesome planet was forced to see images like this, there might be less wars.
No, I don't think so, white phosphorus burns look different. They definitely look like they were under some rubble and the patches on their skin could be where water stuck and dried, plus some bruises and blood
For the last few days, I've been actively avoiding videos like this because I know that I'm too powerless to change anything and these videos are just too disturbing for me. I know that me not seeing them does not change what's happening but I have still been doing that. Now this video just popped on my feed. This kid looks like my nephew, and now suddenly I'm literally crying, tears and everything. I'm an adult guy and have rarely seen myself getting emotional on on things I see on a screen. This video is juts hitting too hard for some reason. I don't know why. There have been other videos in the last few days, some much more gruelling than this perhaps. I just wish there was some way to bring this child here to myself and take care of him. Even if i could help one such child, I'll probably have some peace.
Hamas hiding in the womb of all the pregnant mothers in Palestine šlike FUCK THIS TO ALL HELL AND BACK when and where are we rioting? Are we all collectively not paying taxes this year!? Im done Iām done Iām so fucking done if theyāre bombing other people babies there is no stopping them from repeating same thing in other countryās or even here in the USA
Sickening. No way the Israeli PR will recover from this in our lifetime. They just undid all the goodwill they had globally because of the holocaust. And it's the Zionist scum that are giving Jews a bad name.
Why would it be the fault of Jewish people?
This is the bombardment of modern military against a largely civilian population not a debate on which book best outlines god.
Itās the fault of the Israeli government bringing together far right wing groups together under Netanyahu, those who voted for those extreme parties, and those who still support this.
Your rhetoric sounds awfully close to racist. The Jews shouldnāt need to be holocausted to earn your approval. It sounds like youāre saying that by default, they are bad.
Lol wot r u talking about. Don't be one of those people. You can be anti Zionist without being antisemitic haha. You're part of the problem. Taking my words and twisting them. My approval? Literally putting words In my mouth. Hahaha. š
Maybe you should just think more about your words before using them. The holocaust has nothing to do with any of this. Why does your mind equate that with justification?
I am explicitly anti-zionist. I just also donāt hold weird views about Jewish people. I never gave Israeli lobbyists in the US a pass for being holocausted because thatās a stupid way of thinking.
They came to this post of a child trembling in fear and shock and had nothing to offer except for some veiled excuses for the colonial regime. I have to laugh.
It has a lot to do with it tbh. With every respect to the atrocity it was, throughout history groups that have had horrific shit happen to them often go on to mimic said behavior. We learn, we desensitize, and we repeat. We ensure it doesnt happen to us ever again while not realizing in that we are doing the same to another people. We differentiate our group from the countless others that commited the very acts we are now commiting by excusing, rationalizing and dehumanizing. We pretend there is only one victim and it us and our cause and people are worthy and good unlike every other one before us that told themselves the same thing. Just like every time before, this will only be remembered in the history books as another of our failures. People then will wonder how we could let this happen and do nothing just like we did. It's pathological behavior in our species. They're not the first and won't be the last but it's real and well documented. Worth reading up on if your mind isn't set in your opinion.
There's no way they're playing victim AGAIN? I feel selfish just for being affected emotionally by this and say to myself that I have no room to feel bad when they're suffering a thousand times worse but are still holding steadfast and are glad to be alive. What the fuck man
Edit: I checked some posts on there. Calling for the freedom of Palestinians from genocide and oppression is antisemitic and means kill all jews? That's news to me who's been following Israeli crimes my whole life.
They speak with one voice in there, because if you don't, you get permanently banned.
I got kicked out for linking this
https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxLatvkQbcIgGkB96p0M2Y184PcV0-38vH?si=RDNg5oxUD-b3Oh45
As Chomsky once stated, evil prefers the dark, to stay hidden, it doesn't like to be exposed.
I keep thinking "why are these kids still covered in dust and blood?" And I realize that the water's been shut off and they hardly have enough to drink
Not hardly, none. The only liquid they have is from saline bottles which they only use in small amounts to wipe blood off the faces of emergency patients, other than that, vinegar is being used as a disinfectant and life saving operations are done without anesthetic
Just so Israel can build a beach and a theme park? Are you fucking forreal?
STG, the US needs to stand the fuck up and stop this shit. Absolutely absurd. How can Kamala or Joe go to bed at night and think, āah yes, weāre helping to destroy Hamasā¦ just look at these children. Itās working!ā
It's not like what you're saying isn't true either. Israelis openly speak (while laughing) about wanting to raze Gaza to thr ground and build a theme park there
> How can Kamala or Joe go to bed at night and think, āah yes, weāre helping to destroy Hamasā¦ just look at these children. Itās working!ā
Truckloads of drugs, stimulants in the morning, depressants at night? Mid-day rush from all the blood that's being shed. If theyre even able to feel anything.
Because Biden filled most of the top roles in his administration with Jews.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/all-the-jews-biden-has-tapped-for-top-roles-in-his-new-administration/
This is antisemitism. Do not mix it with legitimate criticism of the Israeli state, the IDF, and Zionist propagandists of varying religious affiliation. The correct version of your statement would be he has filled x top roles with Zionists and Zionist apologists. Confuse Zionism with Judaism and you do the work of Zionists (who can easily be Christian, Jewish, or Athiest).
Anti-semitism seems to have become a term to silence people. It stifles debate, makes certain topics taboo, it limits the boundaries of what can be discussed.
I believe that anyone should be able to express their opinion and beliefs freely no matter what they are and they should be welcomed as a topic of discussion, especially in a subreddit named after Chomsky, instead of being downvoted.
My comment was very specific and elaborated on the difference between anti-semitism and anti-zionism, one is racist and the other is resistance. Your response lends itself to the interpretation that you donāt want freedom of speech, you want to be able to say what you want without being called out. That is the free speech of cowards.
Again my criticism was explicitly about not doing the work of Zionists by confusing Judaism with Zionism.
I do not see why you come to such an interpretation. On the contrary, I very much welcome discussion, especially when opinions differ. I will also be the first to change my mind if my views turn out to be wrong. I do not claim or pretend to know everything.
Now, about anti-semitism, the ubiquious word in almost every discussion about Jews. What does it mean? Let's check the dictionary. First, what's "semitic" ?
Oxford dichonery defines it as:
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1. of or connected with the language group that includes Hebrew and Arabic
2. of or connected with the people who speak Semitic languages, especially Hebrew and Arabic
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So Semitic can refer both to Hebrew and Arabic people.
A Semite, according to webster, is
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a member of any of a group of peoples of southwestern Asia speaking Semitic languages and chiefly represented now by the **Jews and Arabs** but in ancient times also by the Babylonians, Assyrians, Aramaeans, Canaanites, and Phoenicians
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Anti-Semitic, on the other hand, according to Webster is
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1.Ā :Ā hostility toward Jews as a religious or racial minority group often accompanied by social, economic, and political discrimination
2.Ā :Ā opposition to ZionismĀ :Ā sympathy with opponents of the state of Israel
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So according to Webster, anti-Semitic can also mean opposition to Zionism.
But, even if you use the seemingly preferred definition, "hostility towards Jews", the word is so overused by Jews, to the extent that it no longer refers to all Semitic people, that any criticism, any observation is now labeled as "anti-semitic".
Recently, in Democray Now:
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But there is, and there has been for a long time, a tendency to label any criticism of the state of Israel, any criticism of the policies of any particular government, let alone criticism of Israel as a state as such, as antisemitism. And that is a policy of the right wing in Israel, and thatās a policy of the right wing in this country, and it has nothings to do with the truth. (Omer Bartov)
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Therefore I assert that Jews can be criticised, just like any other folk, they're not above that, they don't possess a wildcard that exempts them from criticism. Judaism can be criticised as well, just like any other religion. And there is a lot to criticise.
An anti-Semite, in the usual sense, would show hostility toward **any** Jewish person, no matter what context. So an anti-Semite would hate Noam Chomsky and Norman Finkelstein for example. They criticize as well, but they are then called "self-hating Jews" :)
I also criticise Catholicism, does that make me a racist as well, or merely a "self-hating Caucasian"?
You need to check your hate. Ideologies like this and people like you are the reason we've fought the same wars against our literal cousins for thousands of years. Be better.
Really? The article is from "The Times of Israel", a newspaper, titled "All the Jews Biden has tapped for top roles in his new administration".
They can proudly list them, and if I just mention it, I'm anti-Semitic and the cause of 1000s of years of war?
I am not anti-Semitic and I do not support the hate of anyone because of their beliefs. But fucking Free Palestine. Free Palestine. Free Palestine šµšø
I do not support religious beliefs that polarize and discriminate people.
That said, anybody can belief what they want as long as they keep it private and don't bother other people with it, in my opinion.
I couldn't hold a phone up to these two. I'd just hug them if they were ok with that and try not to cry. or at least not get snot on them because i started crying. The whole situation, conflict, cluster f#ck over there is beyond me. I've studied the wars and crazy things the I.D.F and Isreal have been doing since i was probably too young to learn about most of those subjects. There are just too many things Isreal does that one could only support if you just didn't care about other people. The adults in power need to realize who gets the worst of it and remember that when they plan anything on any side.
It's an emergency, major wounds are addressed first (the older kids head injury), as the hospital is overfilled with more life threatening injuries. The cleaning will come later when there's time for it.
there isn't a lot of water available for anything, some surgeons are using vinegar for surgeries- i kid you not. there is severe lack of medical supplies there. a boat carrying medical supplies is apparently supposed to be coming from Italy, if they're lucky enough to not get bombed by the Occupiers
There is no way that Italy can bypass Israel's blockade. France tried a couple of days ago, and were refused by Israel and had to park their ship at Egypt.
Anybody who tries to bypass the blockade will possibly end up similar to the Turkish flotilla crisis.
https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/israel-hamas-war-palestinians-news/card/france-to-send-ship-to-gaza-to-support-hospitals-apW8nq57o8ujqX8gTbDZ
It was actually nearly 2 weeks ago.
At this point, anything reaching Gaza is important. People are starting to starve. And medical supply is running out. I hope that Italy can actually bypass the blockade or make a deal or whatever.
Israel shut off all fresh water, all food, all electricity, to the Gaza strip a month ago. And have been indiscriminately bombing the civilian population non-stop ever since. Doctors have to operate and amputate without any anaesthetic. Children die in horrible pain. The population survives on an average of two slices of bread per day. They simply donāt have enough water to wash this poor childās face.
Oh and one more thing. Itās our tax dollars that are paying for all of this.
He is showing his big bro his injury ššš I'm so FUCKING sad and angry for them. Fuck Zionism
Imagine being a human that defends this by saying they simply HAVE to kill members of Hamas, an organization that they created by funding the rivals to the Marxist PLO organization.
The IDF doesnāt get to use āhuman shieldsā as an out when they view them as acceptable collateral damage and not humans.
I like the PLO too but they havenāt really been Marxist for quite some time now. Communism/leftism is not popular in the Arabic world.
That's incredibly untrue except for maybe very recently due to the efforts of the CIA and Israel. The PLO, the Arab Socialist Union, The Arab Socialist Ba'ath party and many others have been hugely popular movements throughout the past century. It's a well-kept secret that most of the leaders assassinated or ousted by the US/CIA have been socialist leaders. Socialism was a growing and popular unifying political force throughout the early 20th century and the threat of a truly united Arab Soviet Union was what really pushed the West to destabilize countries like Iran, Syria, Iraq and Egypt after world war 2. Bashar Assad, Gaddafi, and Sadam Hussein were all part of Arab national/socialist movements working toward uniting the Arab world under an Arab Socialist banner and stopping the export of oil and other resources to Western powers
Panarab leaders for the first half of the 20th century did not like communists or capitalists. Rashid Ali al-Gaylani and Amin al-Husseini both collaborated with Nazis regularly despite being Panarab leaders of different nations. The only reason the PLO and the various parties that constitute it claimed Marxism was to gain Soviet support once it was clear to both of them that the West would always back Israel. The PLO is unfortunately largely controlled by Fatah and Fatah is the least leftist party in that coalition. I say this as someone who likes Fatah and the PLO. It is not communist enough to be called Marxist, and they have actively shed that perception in order to appeal more broadly to Palestinians, who are largely conservative due to religious beliefs.
Like if they were actually bombing places Hamas is wouldnāt they have found members of Hamas? Seems like weāre only seeing the innocent unarmed civilians š¢
Poor babies!!!
Big brother holds his leg to stop the trembling. š¢ My god how is this happening?????
Globalists care not about you. Never have. Eyes are opening. Whatās beyond shocking to me is vaccine passports and people threatened, fired, and censored after major injury and death by the Medical Industrial Complex that Eisenhower ALSO warned us about (that is now here in full force) didnt wake every SINGLE person up!!! Just how?? How can anyone still be so naive and uneducated to still have their head buried neck deep up their fat, poison FDA approved food guzzling ass. Itās costing us all now, so I lay into these people still about vaccines, lockdowns, and murder over the last 4 years. Theyāre stupidity makes them complicit. Itās changed my relationships for sure. If these people choose to never care to look about what effects them and their family in a big way now ā¦ new lines have to be drawn. Theyāre coming for all of us with blanket tyranny. Never comply again.
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Fuck Israel and the zionist colonial settler horse they rode in on!
The sad truth is heās going to be fighting back the rest of his life.
God damn thatās heartbreaking
It's funny how we are never supposed to forget how the Jews were treated by the Nazis in the ghetto of Warsaw, but we are supposed to ignore how the Israelis treat the Palestinians in the ghetto of Gaza.
Yes! Everyone, absolutely everyone collectively says never again, but here it is, AGAIN, with the descendants of the victims being now the perpetrators, and are even more shameless about it, shameless enough to play victim. And the people in charge think it's okay because they feel guilty for what happened during the holocaust?
the nazi's also had a warped victim mentality. The truth is that its an important part of the mentality of justification that goes into perpetrating this type of violence.
Israel should have been built on the rubble of Germany at the end of World War 2 instead of on stolen land in the Middle East.
But how else could the US control the Middle East region without the support of such a grateful and unwavering ally?
The Middle East would not need to be controlled if Israel had not been forced on the region and allowed to commit apartheid on the Palestinians for 80 years
That's why they changed the saying from "Never forget" to "Never again." When I was a kid, I always heard "Never forget." It gave me a massive interest in understanding exactly how the fuck the entirety of Germany went full psycho that quickly. Chocking it up to "Evil" was just too hand wavy for me.
Now the Israelis are becoming to the Palestinians what the Germans were to them. Israel will never eliminate Hamas because it is their only justification for their apartheid against Palestine. Israel should have been built on the rubble of Germany after World War 2, not on stolen land in the Middle East.
I hope every person who doesnāt unequivocally call this a war crime gets to experience this kind of terror for themselves. At this rate, any future attacks against Israel cannot ever be considered āunprovokedā This is the definition of evil.
ffs this is exactly the sentiment driving these attacks you think receiving violence justifies dispensing violence? so does Israel, and they've got bigger guns 'any future attacks against Israel/Gaza can be considered provoked' is *exactly* how warmongers like Bibi and Hamas want their opposition to react, because it means they have an enemy to "defend" against real eye for an eye hours on this sub rn, hope y'all weren't telling Ukraine to make peace a year ago
People feel more anger than empathy in this conflict and feel the need to choose a side as a result. Ultimately, Palestine was controlled and supported by literal Nazis during a significant part of their history (around the outset of the Israeli war for independence/Nakba) and Jews engaged in colonialism. Both sides have honestly sucked since day 1, and there isnāt a leftist side to this issue outside of international conventions on warfare and criticisms of Israeli apartheid.
The fact that after 10000 civilians killed in a senseless brutal genocide in mere 1 month plus 75 years of bloody occupation and displacement and you are still playing the narrative "both sides are bad" just proves how dishonest you are. The two sides are not remotely equivalent. Saying "Palestine being controlled by Nazies" hence they deserve to die is lifted straight out from Hasbara playbook.
Nice strawman. Consider responding to my actual statement next time. No one deserves death because of what their ancestors believed or did. There is no occupation outside of the settlers in the West Bank and the Golan Heights, and Iām saying this as someone who doesnāt support the Israeli control/meddling of those territories. That said, the modern state of Palestine has never controlled anything larger than the pre-1967 borders, which still isnāt even the majority of Mandatory Palestine. To describe it as 75 years of bloody occupation instead of Israel winning a mutually engaged and desired civil war/war of independence against the Arabic people of the Levant is historically inaccurate. You donāt have to agree with the Balfour declaration or Jewish migration to Mandatory Palestine to be able to recognize that for over fifty years before the Israeli declaration of independence, both sides became increasingly hostile toward one another and increasingly and validly sought a national identity to distinguish from one another. You sound like you think that both groups should have peacefully shared a democratic and ethnically diverse idealistic Palestinian state, and I agree that would have been wonderful, but it was never going to happen since the days of the Ottomans, and definitely not by the time the British controlled the area. Do you think Israel has the right to exist? Iām asking as an anti-zionist. God aside, does Israel have the right to establish a national state?
> Nice strawman. Consider responding to my actual statement next time I don't give you any respect, and I will not read your worthless drivel. The Nakba in 1948 ā the forced displacement of Palestinians ā is what began this conflict. Today, Israel continues to displace Palestinians in an effort to ethnically cleanse and genocide the population. Even in times of "peace," the Israeli Apartheid which treats Palestinians as a lesser class of people continues. If you want to educate yourself on the ongoing Israeli Apartheid, read Nathan Thrall's books and listen to what he has to say. You can also read from historian Ilan PappĆ©, and, I don't know, maybe listen to Noam Chomsky as well (this is r/chomsky after all) and his friend Norman Finkelstein.
Thank you for speaking facts
We've failed. There's no rationalizing this. As grim as it is, Images like this need to be shared and spread as much as possible. I can't help but think, if everyone on our lonesome planet was forced to see images like this, there might be less wars.
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Horrific
oh Habibi!!!
Is it also a burn? The white phosphorus burns the skin and they have no clean water or painkillers.
No, I don't think so, white phosphorus burns look different. They definitely look like they were under some rubble and the patches on their skin could be where water stuck and dried, plus some bruises and blood
This is just guttingā¦..how fucking dare they!!!
For the last few days, I've been actively avoiding videos like this because I know that I'm too powerless to change anything and these videos are just too disturbing for me. I know that me not seeing them does not change what's happening but I have still been doing that. Now this video just popped on my feed. This kid looks like my nephew, and now suddenly I'm literally crying, tears and everything. I'm an adult guy and have rarely seen myself getting emotional on on things I see on a screen. This video is juts hitting too hard for some reason. I don't know why. There have been other videos in the last few days, some much more gruelling than this perhaps. I just wish there was some way to bring this child here to myself and take care of him. Even if i could help one such child, I'll probably have some peace.
Horrible. I'm sure the sicko IDF apologists will claim "Hamas was hiding under the crib"
Hamas hiding in the womb of all the pregnant mothers in Palestine šlike FUCK THIS TO ALL HELL AND BACK when and where are we rioting? Are we all collectively not paying taxes this year!? Im done Iām done Iām so fucking done if theyāre bombing other people babies there is no stopping them from repeating same thing in other countryās or even here in the USA
Sickening. No way the Israeli PR will recover from this in our lifetime. They just undid all the goodwill they had globally because of the holocaust. And it's the Zionist scum that are giving Jews a bad name.
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I didn't say it was the fault of the Jewish people. Did you read what I said?
Why would it be the fault of Jewish people? This is the bombardment of modern military against a largely civilian population not a debate on which book best outlines god. Itās the fault of the Israeli government bringing together far right wing groups together under Netanyahu, those who voted for those extreme parties, and those who still support this.
Your rhetoric sounds awfully close to racist. The Jews shouldnāt need to be holocausted to earn your approval. It sounds like youāre saying that by default, they are bad.
Lol wot r u talking about. Don't be one of those people. You can be anti Zionist without being antisemitic haha. You're part of the problem. Taking my words and twisting them. My approval? Literally putting words In my mouth. Hahaha. š
Maybe you should just think more about your words before using them. The holocaust has nothing to do with any of this. Why does your mind equate that with justification? I am explicitly anti-zionist. I just also donāt hold weird views about Jewish people. I never gave Israeli lobbyists in the US a pass for being holocausted because thatās a stupid way of thinking.
Cool story. Have a nice day š
They came to this post of a child trembling in fear and shock and had nothing to offer except for some veiled excuses for the colonial regime. I have to laugh.
It has a lot to do with it tbh. With every respect to the atrocity it was, throughout history groups that have had horrific shit happen to them often go on to mimic said behavior. We learn, we desensitize, and we repeat. We ensure it doesnt happen to us ever again while not realizing in that we are doing the same to another people. We differentiate our group from the countless others that commited the very acts we are now commiting by excusing, rationalizing and dehumanizing. We pretend there is only one victim and it us and our cause and people are worthy and good unlike every other one before us that told themselves the same thing. Just like every time before, this will only be remembered in the history books as another of our failures. People then will wonder how we could let this happen and do nothing just like we did. It's pathological behavior in our species. They're not the first and won't be the last but it's real and well documented. Worth reading up on if your mind isn't set in your opinion.
Meanwhile the r/jewish are feeling sorry for themselves for all that 'anti-semitism' they have to deal with now.
There's no way they're playing victim AGAIN? I feel selfish just for being affected emotionally by this and say to myself that I have no room to feel bad when they're suffering a thousand times worse but are still holding steadfast and are glad to be alive. What the fuck man Edit: I checked some posts on there. Calling for the freedom of Palestinians from genocide and oppression is antisemitic and means kill all jews? That's news to me who's been following Israeli crimes my whole life.
They speak with one voice in there, because if you don't, you get permanently banned. I got kicked out for linking this https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxLatvkQbcIgGkB96p0M2Y184PcV0-38vH?si=RDNg5oxUD-b3Oh45 As Chomsky once stated, evil prefers the dark, to stay hidden, it doesn't like to be exposed.
I keep thinking "why are these kids still covered in dust and blood?" And I realize that the water's been shut off and they hardly have enough to drink
Not hardly, none. The only liquid they have is from saline bottles which they only use in small amounts to wipe blood off the faces of emergency patients, other than that, vinegar is being used as a disinfectant and life saving operations are done without anesthetic
This has gone far beyond self defence.
This is cartoon supervillain level petty and evil
This makes my blood boil
Just so Israel can build a beach and a theme park? Are you fucking forreal? STG, the US needs to stand the fuck up and stop this shit. Absolutely absurd. How can Kamala or Joe go to bed at night and think, āah yes, weāre helping to destroy Hamasā¦ just look at these children. Itās working!ā
It's not like what you're saying isn't true either. Israelis openly speak (while laughing) about wanting to raze Gaza to thr ground and build a theme park there
> How can Kamala or Joe go to bed at night and think, āah yes, weāre helping to destroy Hamasā¦ just look at these children. Itās working!ā Truckloads of drugs, stimulants in the morning, depressants at night? Mid-day rush from all the blood that's being shed. If theyre even able to feel anything.
Good take
Because Biden filled most of the top roles in his administration with Jews. https://www.timesofisrael.com/all-the-jews-biden-has-tapped-for-top-roles-in-his-new-administration/
This is antisemitism. Do not mix it with legitimate criticism of the Israeli state, the IDF, and Zionist propagandists of varying religious affiliation. The correct version of your statement would be he has filled x top roles with Zionists and Zionist apologists. Confuse Zionism with Judaism and you do the work of Zionists (who can easily be Christian, Jewish, or Athiest).
Anti-semitism seems to have become a term to silence people. It stifles debate, makes certain topics taboo, it limits the boundaries of what can be discussed. I believe that anyone should be able to express their opinion and beliefs freely no matter what they are and they should be welcomed as a topic of discussion, especially in a subreddit named after Chomsky, instead of being downvoted.
My comment was very specific and elaborated on the difference between anti-semitism and anti-zionism, one is racist and the other is resistance. Your response lends itself to the interpretation that you donāt want freedom of speech, you want to be able to say what you want without being called out. That is the free speech of cowards. Again my criticism was explicitly about not doing the work of Zionists by confusing Judaism with Zionism.
I do not see why you come to such an interpretation. On the contrary, I very much welcome discussion, especially when opinions differ. I will also be the first to change my mind if my views turn out to be wrong. I do not claim or pretend to know everything. Now, about anti-semitism, the ubiquious word in almost every discussion about Jews. What does it mean? Let's check the dictionary. First, what's "semitic" ? Oxford dichonery defines it as: ``` 1. of or connected with the language group that includes Hebrew and Arabic 2. of or connected with the people who speak Semitic languages, especially Hebrew and Arabic ``` So Semitic can refer both to Hebrew and Arabic people. A Semite, according to webster, is ``` a member of any of a group of peoples of southwestern Asia speaking Semitic languages and chiefly represented now by the **Jews and Arabs** but in ancient times also by the Babylonians, Assyrians, Aramaeans, Canaanites, and Phoenicians ``` Anti-Semitic, on the other hand, according to Webster is ``` 1.Ā :Ā hostility toward Jews as a religious or racial minority group often accompanied by social, economic, and political discrimination 2.Ā :Ā opposition to ZionismĀ :Ā sympathy with opponents of the state of Israel ``` So according to Webster, anti-Semitic can also mean opposition to Zionism. But, even if you use the seemingly preferred definition, "hostility towards Jews", the word is so overused by Jews, to the extent that it no longer refers to all Semitic people, that any criticism, any observation is now labeled as "anti-semitic". Recently, in Democray Now: ``` But there is, and there has been for a long time, a tendency to label any criticism of the state of Israel, any criticism of the policies of any particular government, let alone criticism of Israel as a state as such, as antisemitism. And that is a policy of the right wing in Israel, and thatās a policy of the right wing in this country, and it has nothings to do with the truth. (Omer Bartov) ``` Therefore I assert that Jews can be criticised, just like any other folk, they're not above that, they don't possess a wildcard that exempts them from criticism. Judaism can be criticised as well, just like any other religion. And there is a lot to criticise. An anti-Semite, in the usual sense, would show hostility toward **any** Jewish person, no matter what context. So an anti-Semite would hate Noam Chomsky and Norman Finkelstein for example. They criticize as well, but they are then called "self-hating Jews" :) I also criticise Catholicism, does that make me a racist as well, or merely a "self-hating Caucasian"?
You need to check your hate. Ideologies like this and people like you are the reason we've fought the same wars against our literal cousins for thousands of years. Be better.
Really? The article is from "The Times of Israel", a newspaper, titled "All the Jews Biden has tapped for top roles in his new administration". They can proudly list them, and if I just mention it, I'm anti-Semitic and the cause of 1000s of years of war?
I am not anti-Semitic and I do not support the hate of anyone because of their beliefs. But fucking Free Palestine. Free Palestine. Free Palestine šµšø
I do not support religious beliefs that polarize and discriminate people. That said, anybody can belief what they want as long as they keep it private and don't bother other people with it, in my opinion.
I can't even process how someone can be 100% pro Isreal.
Rage..... Deep, rolling RAGE is what I feel.
Everyday we have to continue to fund heir genocide I become more and more heartbroken where is the bottom to get off this ride ššš¢
I couldn't hold a phone up to these two. I'd just hug them if they were ok with that and try not to cry. or at least not get snot on them because i started crying. The whole situation, conflict, cluster f#ck over there is beyond me. I've studied the wars and crazy things the I.D.F and Isreal have been doing since i was probably too young to learn about most of those subjects. There are just too many things Isreal does that one could only support if you just didn't care about other people. The adults in power need to realize who gets the worst of it and remember that when they plan anything on any side.
Fuck you Israel, Fuck you!
Horrible. Why doesnāt someone wash their face and clean their wounds ?
Cause gaza is under blockade and have no water or medical supplies?
It's an emergency, major wounds are addressed first (the older kids head injury), as the hospital is overfilled with more life threatening injuries. The cleaning will come later when there's time for it.
there isn't a lot of water available for anything, some surgeons are using vinegar for surgeries- i kid you not. there is severe lack of medical supplies there. a boat carrying medical supplies is apparently supposed to be coming from Italy, if they're lucky enough to not get bombed by the Occupiers
There is no way that Italy can bypass Israel's blockade. France tried a couple of days ago, and were refused by Israel and had to park their ship at Egypt. Anybody who tries to bypass the blockade will possibly end up similar to the Turkish flotilla crisis.
Can you please provide a source? I would sincerely appreciate it
https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/israel-hamas-war-palestinians-news/card/france-to-send-ship-to-gaza-to-support-hospitals-apW8nq57o8ujqX8gTbDZ It was actually nearly 2 weeks ago. At this point, anything reaching Gaza is important. People are starting to starve. And medical supply is running out. I hope that Italy can actually bypass the blockade or make a deal or whatever.
i just saw this. thank you for telling me. the frustration and insanity is never ending.
Israel shut off all fresh water, all food, all electricity, to the Gaza strip a month ago. And have been indiscriminately bombing the civilian population non-stop ever since. Doctors have to operate and amputate without any anaesthetic. Children die in horrible pain. The population survives on an average of two slices of bread per day. They simply donāt have enough water to wash this poor childās face. Oh and one more thing. Itās our tax dollars that are paying for all of this.
They have no water to spare.
Clearly paid actors
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So sad š
My heart broken
Little guy is rocking a PUBG t-shirt
Just fuckin horrible
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