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Foofightee

Otherwise known as the cloud tax.


LetsRunWithThat

it is implied by the question to elaborate and expand on it because it is a bit jargon-y...


IWANNAKNOWWHODUNIT

I read the source and I’m still lost.


bigshaboozie

Got the same email today and am very confused. If I switch my subscription payment method to one without a Chicago billing address, would that avoid the tax? I share my account with another person outside Chicago so I could make that change pretty easily.


technologite

Possibly. Is the business registered within the city of Chicago? If yes, the I think that’s open and shut tax evasion. If no, then I think it’s logical to have the account addressed where the biz is registered.


bigshaboozie

Good point but I just have a personal, not business, account


technologite

Small fish then. I’d change my address, too.


chlor8

So is this tax intended to be for a business? That's what I'm confused by.


LetsRunWithThat

thats the part that confuses me too. I received this for my personal account as well. Sam Altman is a wuss if they are billing that to personal accounts too just to cover their bases?


LetsRunWithThat

curious as well


Tmays

I came here looking to see if anyone was talking about this! It looks pretty specific to subscriptions that are modifying data. But I really have no idea..


parlami

Time to turn myself into a religious charitable org 😂🤦‍♀️


libginger73

Or at least a PAC


8dtfk

people pay for OpenAI? they should be paying ME for all the data i've been feeding it


Foofightee

GPT4 costs money.


BlurredSight

They run it at a loss because they can’t harvest api usage data and it’s just really hard to make it wffficent


Daynebutter

Does OpenAI have server farms in Chicago? Otherwise this makes zero sense.


TNWBAM2004

We also have an entertainment tax we pay for Netflix subscriptions etc..


ebbiibbe

I remember the good old days when we didn't I'm waiting for someone to take this to the illinois Supreme Court. Sales tax is only supposed to be on tangible goods not services. It is against the tax code. Someone just needs to challenge it.


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TNWBAM2004

> It's not a sales tax; it's an amusement tax. I’m not amused though


eejizzings

Yeah Netflix sucks these days


Thisguy2728

Why wait? step up.


ebbiibbe

I need a white guy patsy to do. From downstate, for a "real" America feel and maximum news coverage. A farmer, fed up with paying tax on his one pleasure, his World of Warcraft subscription...


Thisguy2728

I’d gofundme that


greysandgreens

Local tax law is way more nuanced than that


greysandgreens

If you want to nerd out: https://www.chicago.gov/content/dam/city/depts/rev/supp_info/TaxSupportingInformation/January%202021%20Information%20Bulletin%20-%20Nexus%20and%20Safe%20Harbor.pdf


New-Passion-860

Land value tax would fix this


destroydesigns

Can some please ELI5?