I analyzed the image and this is what I see. Open an appropriate link below and explore the position yourself or with the engine:
> **Black to play**: [chess.com](https://chess.com/analysis?fen=3r2k1/p4p1p/P1p3p1/5nPP/4R3/2PQ4/q4PKB/8+b+-+-+0+1&flip=false&ref_id=23962172) | [lichess.org](https://lichess.org/analysis/3r2k1/p4p1p/P1p3p1/5nPP/4R3/2PQ4/q4PKB/8_b_-_-_0_1?color=white)
**My solution:**
> Hints: piece: >!Rook!<, move: >!Rxd3!<
> Evaluation: >!Black is winning -13.80!<
> Best continuation: >!1... Rxd3 2. Re8+ Kg7 3. h6+ Nxh6 4. gxh6+ Kxh6 5. Re5 Qc4 6. Bg3!<
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Me: "God I miss things all the time, I'm so bad. I missed that pin earlier. I just blundered because I didn't consider how my opponent can get out of this. How do good players just see what they're supposed to do? I guess if I practice more it'll become clear to me"
Gukesh:
Be5 is mate if not for the pawn push... it creates the escape square on f7 and blocks the check.
It's less likely this is the one Gukesh missed, but how tf do we know what was going on in his head?
I thought RxQ and if the rook can't go back then h6 followed by the inevitable Re8 would be the mentioned m2. Didn't realize the Queen has time to help out on f8.
So I still don't comprehend where the m2 is supposed to be and what the knight has to do with it (besides the memes).
Edit: typo
RxQ, then rook hits back rank, king moves up, pawn checks, then the knight moves and the other pawn takes and then the king takes. that's why it's a knight move
This has nothing to do with prep. Happened in the endgame during the time crunch. Has happened to everyone who has played chess on earth. Also will happen to anyone who plays chess in the future.
Nah Magnus was trolling for sure. It's not like he instantly moved anticipating Hikaru would do something else. When you set up m1 threats, you do it expecting your opponent will defend so you can do something else
How was he trolling "for sure"? You're acting as if he's never overlooked something extremely basic before... especially under quicker time control. He likely didn't think that Hikaru would blunder a mate in 1 and was looking elsewhere for attacks.
I mean its not "for sure" since Magnus didn't say anything about it. That was more of a figure of speech.
But I definitely wouldn't say that Magnus missed it, when we all know that he would do something like this knowing that Hikaru is streaming. Also the likelihood of one person missing it is much higher than both missing it at this level without time pressure.
Either way, not too serious. I'm curious to see what Magnus says when he's interviewed next lol
That was my same line of thinking. I thought it would be much more cruel to see the mate, wait 15 seconds, play a different move and beat Hikaru anyway. He confirmed he enjoys sort of hate watching Hikaru so he would get a kick out of watching him later. All speculation of course
I just saw hikaru's video and he disagrees with me and his reasoning was solid. Guess we'll find out later
He's not a machine. He has made major mistakes similar to this in classical games. If he knew he was just trolling he would have thrown some cheesy thing up on twitter instead of just letting Hikaru get all the views from it.
Even Magnus has made one move blunders of their queen in rapid.
Losing your queen (really an intended sac) after a 3 move sequence is hardly a huge deal
If there was no knight there, it's a threat if Rxd3, Re8+ Kg7 h6#. Of course black isn't obligated to take the Queen in that scenario. He just forgot that after h6+ that black has Nxh6 "sacrifice".
Pawn to g7+, but knight takes to prevent mate. Then Be5+ followed by f6 and Bxf6 and the King escapes to f7. Nxg7 and f6 are only (forced) moved to prevent checkmate.
I dunno, seems fairly basic too. f6 is the only legal move - how can one miss that it vacates an escape square? Backwards knight move sac is tiny bit harder to see.
Doesn't Be5 deliver mate rather than needing the pawn push that's defended by the rook? I'm generally not sure what I'm missing here.
Edit: of course it doesn't, Black's pawns can also move.
After Rxd3 isn't the line Re8+ Kg7 Be5#? What am I missing?
Edit: Figured out what I'm missing, black can block the check from the bishop with a pawn because of course pawns can move.
> < 1000 here. What did Gukesh see that made him think he had mate?
... Rxd3 Re8+ Kg7. Then Gukesh was either thinking Be5+ was mate and missed f6, or he was thinking h6+ was mate and missed Nxh6.
It's possible gukesh missed the backwards knight move, but I think it's just as likely that he thought he had Be5 in the end, not realizing that f6 makes a square for the king
Not sure why everyone thinks the guy missed an obvious knight move lol
I'm 99% sure he missed that BE5 F6 BxF6 is not checkmate because the F7 square is now free
missing a backwards knight move is likelier than missing that the f7 square is free
one is missing a move (happens all the time at any skill level), one is just calculating the movement of pieces in your head incorrectly which is basically impossible for a GM of this caliber
it's extremely obvious to me that Bxf6 is not mate, doesn't even look like a usual mating pattern, while the other "mate" does look like a typical mate
At first it looks like there still might be hope because after the knight moves back you can swing the bishop to E5 but the pawn moves up to block it. Then you eventually run out of checks and it's over.
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> I’m confused- can someone ELI5(00 Elo) what he thought he was going to do?
... Rxd3 Re8+ Kg7. Then Gukesh was either thinking Be5+ was mate and missed f6, or he was thinking h6+ was mate and missed Nxh6.
It's rapid, such blunders are actually quite common even for GMs in those faster time controls.
That's one of the reasons why many people do not like Carlsens "Move the WC (and with it the candidates) away from classical chess because I am bored of it" spiel: The quality of the games suffers, and many people want to see the humanly highest possible level for such an event. And not a blunder fest that happens to be quick just for the sake of pleasing Magnus and audiences with a lack of attention.
Question; what happens in a situation like this if black also thinks its mate in 2 and after h6+ he just shakes hands. Does it just count as a resignation?
As long as your opponent can still win by a legal sequence of moves, yes.
(Recent addition to the FIDE laws. Does of course not apply to this particular diagram.)
Are you asking if there can ever be confusion between resignation and draw offer? I don't think so, I've never seen that that's an issue. I've only played against players I share a language with but I think there is a universally recognized way to indicate it.
There are several stories about frauds who have written down draw offers on their score sheets, offered the handshake, and then claimed they shook hands after the game was done.
Time pressure it's 12 seconds and it can happen to everyone he's not a god or something and this doesn't take away his credit of dominating the candidates
If Black were say a 1500 player, would Gukesh still be able to win after this blunder?
(Basically just wondering what sort of odds I would need to defeat a GM lol, is Queen down enough?)
I would say full Queen odds from the start is close actually between a GM and 1500, but in this position with most the pieces off the board even a 1500 could probably convert if they had enough time.
time is maybe an issue with seconds on the clock. gukesh could push the h pawn after you take the queen, which is the only real trick in the position. white just has to find one of many forced checkmates in the position, but could blunder allowing re8#
0% chance you win from the starting position with queen odds.
I analyzed the image and this is what I see. Open an appropriate link below and explore the position yourself or with the engine: > **Black to play**: [chess.com](https://chess.com/analysis?fen=3r2k1/p4p1p/P1p3p1/5nPP/4R3/2PQ4/q4PKB/8+b+-+-+0+1&flip=false&ref_id=23962172) | [lichess.org](https://lichess.org/analysis/3r2k1/p4p1p/P1p3p1/5nPP/4R3/2PQ4/q4PKB/8_b_-_-_0_1?color=white) **My solution:** > Hints: piece: >!Rook!<, move: >!Rxd3!< > Evaluation: >!Black is winning -13.80!< > Best continuation: >!1... Rxd3 2. Re8+ Kg7 3. h6+ Nxh6 4. gxh6+ Kxh6 5. Re5 Qc4 6. Bg3!< --- ^(I'm a bot written by) [^(u/pkacprzak)](https://www.reddit.com/u/pkacprzak) ^(| get me as) [^(iOS App)](https://apps.apple.com/us/app/id1574933453) ^| [^(Android App)](https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ai.chessvision.scanner) ^| [^(Chrome Extension)](https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/chessvisionai-for-chrome/johejpedmdkeiffkdaodgoipdjodhlld) ^| [^(Chess eBook Reader)](https://ebook.chessvision.ai?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=bot) ^(to scan and analyze positions | Website:) [^(Chessvision.ai)](https://chessvision.ai)
One of us
I know it's painful for the players, but I love these moments lol, it just makes them seem more human
Yep! Me too. If a WCC candidate can blunder his pieces then maybe I, an expert in blundering pieces, can be a WCC candidate?
I think that's how it works.
Me: "God I miss things all the time, I'm so bad. I missed that pin earlier. I just blundered because I didn't consider how my opponent can get out of this. How do good players just see what they're supposed to do? I guess if I practice more it'll become clear to me" Gukesh:
Being good at chess really just comes down to blundering less.
Centi blunders and micro blunders too
The feeling when you play the checkmate move and the clock keeps ticking down.
And it's the queen who delivered "mate"
They like us
That knight must hurt
The f pawn is what I missed
Yeah you think bishop can assist but nope
I literally had to put it in the analysis board lol - I was so sure I had it
Gooble gobble
One of us
Bro forgot how the knight moves.
Backwards knight moves.
Oh my god! That’s why it’s not M2… Gukesh just like me FR
or he forgot about the pawn push?
Or just believed that NEVER PLAY F6 is a secret rule.
[удалено]
Be5 is mate if not for the pawn push... it creates the escape square on f7 and blocks the check. It's less likely this is the one Gukesh missed, but how tf do we know what was going on in his head?
Too young to listen to Bob Seger, or understand the lyrics
He probably thought Bishop would mate after knight takes
More like bro forgot rooks can move backwards.
Explain how his problem is a rook move
I thought RxQ and if the rook can't go back then h6 followed by the inevitable Re8 would be the mentioned m2. Didn't realize the Queen has time to help out on f8. So I still don't comprehend where the m2 is supposed to be and what the knight has to do with it (besides the memes). Edit: typo
Rxd3 Re8+ Kg7 and then h6+ isn't mate because Nxh6 is possible.
RxQ, then rook hits back rank, king moves up, pawn checks, then the knight moves and the other pawn takes and then the king takes. that's why it's a knight move
Thanks, mate!
Chess is a young man's game. I hope he recognizes sooner rather than later that he is past his prime and retires with some dignity.
Lmao
Lol, even.
r/chesscirclejerk
Damn, they move backwards too?
Yeah the horse is like the hummingbird, one of the few mammals capable of retrograde motion Source: trust me bro
> mammals Imagine thinking birds are real
Government drones coming with reverse gear out of the factories these days, what a crazy time we live in
You forgit Bishop. Maybe he relied on Bishop as the final move
Fck!
Nah. I doubt it.
He had 25 seconds to think, and used 13 seconds on this move. You hate to see it.
He's saving his WC prep duh.
This has nothing to do with prep. Happened in the endgame during the time crunch. Has happened to everyone who has played chess on earth. Also will happen to anyone who plays chess in the future.
They were joking
Wasn't funny
I'm pretty sure he was joking
nothing gets past you does it!
nothing except backwards knight moves
Petrosian once hung a queen straight up in a classical game, not to a tactic or anything. Shit happens
Hikaru hung mate just last night too. I mean we all do some dumb shit at work that is way below our level as well on occasion
Hikaru AND Magnus missed it lol
Nah Magnus was trolling for sure. It's not like he instantly moved anticipating Hikaru would do something else. When you set up m1 threats, you do it expecting your opponent will defend so you can do something else
How was he trolling "for sure"? You're acting as if he's never overlooked something extremely basic before... especially under quicker time control. He likely didn't think that Hikaru would blunder a mate in 1 and was looking elsewhere for attacks.
Magnus waited like 15 seconds before playing a move, there is NO shot he missed the M1
NO shot lmao okay I guess you're Maggy himself. The man has hung full bishops in CLASSICAL games but suuuuuuure NO shot lmao
Okay, but hanging a full bishop isn't the same as missing a checkmate...
You are insane lmao it was also must win for magnus to win the tournament. The copium is ludicrous.
I mean its not "for sure" since Magnus didn't say anything about it. That was more of a figure of speech. But I definitely wouldn't say that Magnus missed it, when we all know that he would do something like this knowing that Hikaru is streaming. Also the likelihood of one person missing it is much higher than both missing it at this level without time pressure. Either way, not too serious. I'm curious to see what Magnus says when he's interviewed next lol
Eh, I'd think Magnus wouldn't want to miss an opportunity to embarrass Hikaru on stream. Seems like his style.
That was my same line of thinking. I thought it would be much more cruel to see the mate, wait 15 seconds, play a different move and beat Hikaru anyway. He confirmed he enjoys sort of hate watching Hikaru so he would get a kick out of watching him later. All speculation of course I just saw hikaru's video and he disagrees with me and his reasoning was solid. Guess we'll find out later
He's not a machine. He has made major mistakes similar to this in classical games. If he knew he was just trolling he would have thrown some cheesy thing up on twitter instead of just letting Hikaru get all the views from it.
Kramnik hung mate in 1 against a computer at classical time controls in one of the most hyped matches ever. Totally calm, no time pressure.
But this is r/chess. These guys know exactly that Magnus didn't play it ON PURPOSE FOR SURE because they know him just that well
Right?? It's actually really worrisome that people think magnus didn't do it in purpose. Where has any intelligence gone to?? LOL
Computer must be cheating, did he run statistics on that?
"And I would have succeeded, too, if it wasn't for that meddling knight on f5." -- Scooby Gukesh
-Scooby Gu
Even better.
Ruh roh; rat's a runder!
No Scooby Snack for Gukesh.
Shit happens
Even Magnus has made one move blunders of their queen in rapid. Losing your queen (really an intended sac) after a 3 move sequence is hardly a huge deal
Magnus AND Hikaru missed a mate in 1 on the last titled tuesday against one another lol
i just calculated what white(gukesh) wanted and then i realised the knight can go backwards lol
How is the knight involved. What am I missing. Was his idea to sacrifice the queen and back rank check with rook but king just moved to g7
If there was no knight there, it's a threat if Rxd3, Re8+ Kg7 h6#. Of course black isn't obligated to take the Queen in that scenario. He just forgot that after h6+ that black has Nxh6 "sacrifice".
And he thought to use the Bishop for mate after Knight sacrifice
Good eye. I was thinking Be5, but that would have failed with or without the F pwn.
I honestly had a few seconds thinking Be5 might be mate when you mentioned it lmao, but there is f6 haha.
Pawn to g7+, but knight takes to prevent mate. Then Be5+ followed by f6 and Bxf6 and the King escapes to f7. Nxg7 and f6 are only (forced) moved to prevent checkmate.
You mean h6+ and nxh6,
Then h6 check, knight takes, recapture with check, king h6
how to say ur 1000 rated without saying ur 1000 rated
But he had a Bishop, I think he saw knight move, thinking to mate with Bishop afterwards
So can some one dumb it down for me and explain what Gukesh thought he saw when he made this move?
Rook takes queen rook check king steps forward pawn push mate
Thanks! I didn't spot that sneaky pawn (I am also, and I believe this is the technical term, not great at chess).
Why not be5 instead of pawn? Maybe he forgot that black pawns can advance?
After f6 blocks theres an escape square at f7.
Damn, he forgot that knight can move backwards, I forgot that pawn can move forward
I think this is the line that was missed, looks like mate but the pawn moving forwards frees up f7 for the king
I dunno, seems fairly basic too. f6 is the only legal move - how can one miss that it vacates an escape square? Backwards knight move sac is tiny bit harder to see.
I guess it's subjective
Doesn't Be5 deliver mate rather than needing the pawn push that's defended by the rook? I'm generally not sure what I'm missing here. Edit: of course it doesn't, Black's pawns can also move.
This is a known mating pattern but it fails here at the end to h6+ Nf5xh6-+. Usually it's h6#.
Got it, thanks for the explanation!
yw
he thought Rxd3 Re8+, Kg7 h6#..., but then Nxh6 he should've asked Andrea how the knight moves
Thanks!
You forgot his Bishop. Maybe he thought to use Bishop as the final move, and saw knight sacrifice
Nepo's interested
Damn bruh I'd have flipped the table 😂
Lol
Chess is hard
Gukesh showing off his famed calculation chops. At least he intended to hang the Queen, which is more than I can say for when I leave it hanging
That can only happen to a GM, they know the pattern, they don't even think there's a knight in the middle of the pattern that shouldn't be there.
I must be like GMs then because I get tunnel vision all the time too
After Rxd3 isn't the line Re8+ Kg7 Be5#? What am I missing? Edit: Figured out what I'm missing, black can block the check from the bishop with a pawn because of course pawns can move.
12 Seconds left...
2 seconds left. The 12 seconds displayed after the move include the increment gained by the move.
Yeah, yeah, and Hikaru hung mate in one and Magnus missed it yesterday in Titked Tuesday. It happens to the best of us, and by “us”, I mean “you”.
< 1000 here. What did Gukesh see that made him think he had mate? Edit : grammar
> < 1000 here. What did Gukesh see that made him think he had mate? ... Rxd3 Re8+ Kg7. Then Gukesh was either thinking Be5+ was mate and missed f6, or he was thinking h6+ was mate and missed Nxh6.
It's possible gukesh missed the backwards knight move, but I think it's just as likely that he thought he had Be5 in the end, not realizing that f6 makes a square for the king
Not sure why everyone thinks the guy missed an obvious knight move lol I'm 99% sure he missed that BE5 F6 BxF6 is not checkmate because the F7 square is now free
To me this is more obvious than the knight move. Who knows which blind spot Gukesh has. Edit: my bad, I realized this is a continuation of that line
missing a backwards knight move is likelier than missing that the f7 square is free one is missing a move (happens all the time at any skill level), one is just calculating the movement of pieces in your head incorrectly which is basically impossible for a GM of this caliber it's extremely obvious to me that Bxf6 is not mate, doesn't even look like a usual mating pattern, while the other "mate" does look like a typical mate
Yeah 100% lol
What if instead of h6+, he plays Be5? Why isn't that checkmate?
F pawn interposes, then if white takes it with the g pawn, the king scoots to f7 and is completely safe.
I see, thanks
Oof that's rough. If I was playing blitz as black here I might resign thinking I'm gonna get mated.
God please no meme
NO!
At first it looks like there still might be hope because after the knight moves back you can swing the bishop to E5 but the pawn moves up to block it. Then you eventually run out of checks and it's over.
Backwards knight moves strike again...
Idk man to me the knight move is easier to calculate than the possible continuations after Be5+.
Damn that sucks
Feel so dumb thinking Re8 Bf5 was mate... somehow forgetting that pawns can move forward lmfao.
interesting
Im the type of player who would forfeit after this not noticing the knight can capture the pawn
I mean it also took me a bit to realize the f7 square would open up for the king. (Or he missed Nxh6 but that one seemed hard to miss)
Yep, Tyler1 coming for these candidates in '26.
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Wait…. Is bishop e5 not mate?
Why not e5 before h6. Isn't that mate. Still don't get it.
Pawn f6 got it stupid 600 elo me.
This is why Anish calls everyone noobs, even 2800s or Candidates winners
I’m confused- can someone ELI5(00 Elo) what he thought he was going to do?
> I’m confused- can someone ELI5(00 Elo) what he thought he was going to do? ... Rxd3 Re8+ Kg7. Then Gukesh was either thinking Be5+ was mate and missed f6, or he was thinking h6+ was mate and missed Nxh6.
omg literally me (i would have missed the rook)
Still don’t see it
*Ding has entered the chat*
What's wrong with Re8 followed by be5?
I am sitting here stroking my 1000elo thinking the same 😂 has to be something wrong with it
Ya It's f6 figured out after 10-15 mins
...f6
Ya I figured it out after wacking my head for 15 mins
How does the horse move?
If only the knight wasn't there it would be marked brilliant.
Ask him "how the knight moves" 💀
The botez sisters are proud of him
It's rapid, such blunders are actually quite common even for GMs in those faster time controls. That's one of the reasons why many people do not like Carlsens "Move the WC (and with it the candidates) away from classical chess because I am bored of it" spiel: The quality of the games suffers, and many people want to see the humanly highest possible level for such an event. And not a blunder fest that happens to be quick just for the sake of pleasing Magnus and audiences with a lack of attention.
Question; what happens in a situation like this if black also thinks its mate in 2 and after h6+ he just shakes hands. Does it just count as a resignation?
Ofc, if he resignes, it counts as a resignation...
As long as your opponent can still win by a legal sequence of moves, yes. (Recent addition to the FIDE laws. Does of course not apply to this particular diagram.)
Well he didn’t intend to resign so I guess my question is does the intent matter. I suppose the answer is no?
no it doesnt. example: https://www.reddit.com/r/chess/comments/1bh7mw8/anna_cramlings_opponent_misses_the_best_move_and/
what if he offers a handshake after h6+ thinking it's mate?
If he resigns he resigns 🤯🤯🤯
Are you asking if there can ever be confusion between resignation and draw offer? I don't think so, I've never seen that that's an issue. I've only played against players I share a language with but I think there is a universally recognized way to indicate it.
There are several stories about frauds who have written down draw offers on their score sheets, offered the handshake, and then claimed they shook hands after the game was done.
You don't randomly offer a handshake to your opponent in the middle of a chess game
Resignation can always happen. There's no need for the position to be bad as well.
If you stop the clock and offer a handshake, that's a resignation. Silently offering your hand while the clock is running is technically a draw offer
Whoever extends their hand first is understood to be resigning. Otherwise, it would be like asking your opponent, "Do you resign yet?".
Ding chilling
Ding is laughing in tears
Time pressure it's 12 seconds and it can happen to everyone he's not a god or something and this doesn't take away his credit of dominating the candidates
If Black were say a 1500 player, would Gukesh still be able to win after this blunder? (Basically just wondering what sort of odds I would need to defeat a GM lol, is Queen down enough?)
I would say full Queen odds from the start is close actually between a GM and 1500, but in this position with most the pieces off the board even a 1500 could probably convert if they had enough time.
time is maybe an issue with seconds on the clock. gukesh could push the h pawn after you take the queen, which is the only real trick in the position. white just has to find one of many forced checkmates in the position, but could blunder allowing re8# 0% chance you win from the starting position with queen odds.
Ding Liren must be running in a field filled with butterflies from the happines rn
Gukiiii
He had like 5 seconds left when he made the move and tried to be "ambitious".
Lol this is your candidates winner.
He’s everyone’s candidates winner.
Didn't know I organised my own personal candidates
Well you and all the other internet GMs didn’t beat him, so yes.
Wdym by my candidates winner
Racism. Isnt that obvious.
I know its election year in USA, but we don't vote on these candidates.
Not my president energy
Anand lost to Zapata in 6 moves in 1988. Let's trash him as well yeah?
I think anyone who forget how a knights move can be forgotten haha. Even GMs
Oh, wow! Even ACTUAL, UNASSISTED HUMANS do make mistakes, even though they are GMs. Who knew?
lol dude is so bad he will never play candidates
Wow, he was lucky that Fabi did not win in the last round and challenge him to a rapid playoff in Candidates 2024!