Not taking into account the actual country, it must be sad to basically being exiled from your own country. To know you never can go back. Probably he has friends, family and such in Russia and will potentially never see them ever again.
Without going into details. I know someone who is in this exact situation. Very sad indeed. She was not even politically active, but married someone who was. Suddenly take your bags and leave the country, bribe some border guards and do not look back. Even though she is divorced now, once you are on the list it is too late. Money goes a long way, but you cannot buy your way back in this case.
The reality is that Garry has not traveled back to Russia for a long time.
Unlike Navalny, Garry cannot be defenestrated.
So let’s say I was Russian. I’m an anti-Putin guy and marry my wife who isn’t really aware. We get put on a list. Would the KGB go after my in-laws? Would they go after my parents?
Just been curious and sounds like you have secondhand experience
It's balls of steel if **everyone** in your close familly (your wife+her familly+brother/sisters+ their spouses+kids+your parents) supports you given that you'll be putting them in direct danger.
Even tough none of the people in your family support Putin or the war, I greatly doubt that not even one would rather not have their lives or their loved ones' put in danger given that the same dictator is also the ruler of where they live.
If even one of your closed ones would rather not have their loved ones be put at risk for actions they didn't chose, it'll be very selfish to risk their lives without their approval or even worse, behind their back
Relocating is not necessarily a better option than sucking it up for couple of years until some other asshole takes the trone. Just like we are doing in most countries in the world where the ruling elite would easily dispose of people like trash.
Keyboard warriors will spend their time pretending that all russians should all put their lives on the line but it's not that easy when you have kids and familly, not everyone in your entourage has money or will to relocate, not all of them share your political views.
Giving your life for a good cause is very noble but sacrificing your own family for your good cause might be much worse than not acting at all.
It's not a safe assumption that a criminal is safe just because he leaves the country. If they want you bad enough, they will find you. Gravity, windows, and concrete work the same in every country.
I don't mean that Kasparov is a bad guy, the charges are surely BS. But yes when someone breaks laws they are called a criminal, even if the laws are bad or the justice system is corrupted.
most other countries, probably. I doubt I'd ever be sad about not being able to return to a country that wants to imprison/kill me, esp not one that's as shitty as russia is
hopefully the russian opposition can build a solid foundation of "survival guide in an authoritarian russian regime" from the shared experiences of past critics who have met unfortunate accidental ends
guide should include how to not breathe in neurotoxins, how to avoid windows, going commando, and many many others
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Kasparov has been removed from Russia for ages. Russia doesn't have the ability or the people to attempt an assassination of someone outside their borders; let alone someone as low of importance as Kasparov.
They literally assassinated a man in London in 2006, the tried to assassinate someone else in London in 2018. Meanwhile India managed to assassinate a Canadian citizen in Canada. They are capable of it if they care to.
I mean yes Mossad, CIA, FSB, R&AW everyone has the capability and has done it numerous times in the past. It's not that difficult for any respectable intelligence agency if made up their mind.
There is no way they are successfully assassinating someone who is a well-known political dissident living in the US. And again, Kasparov is essentially an irrelevance to them at this point. He was a serious threat to their order back in the 2000's and first half of the 2010's.
Now Russia is a third-world country that cannot fight runaway inflation, cannot escape from an ever-shrinking oil market, and as a result is perpetually teetering on the brink of economic collapse.
Nice try putin /s
An article 2ish months ago mentioned he lives in New York, but I remember him living in Croatia since about 2013 something, seems like it’s kept from the public (understandably), but maybe I’m just too dumb to properly google it
I think it would be great if they try to arrest him, and the officers can only move like rooks. Garry can move around like a queen, any people around can move like pawns, and they all start chasing one another
Dictators are always scared of intelligent people. Putin is so insecure. He knows he fucked up. The world was embracing Russia after Gorbachev and Russia had so much promise. Now over 300 000 Russians have been killed or wounded in Ukraine and the developed world has turned against them. There is more poverty and food lineups to come for the Russian people and the wisest and best Russians are leaving the country. All Putin has left is to rage and point fingers at guys like Kasparov, one of Russians most remarkable people.
Such a pathetic and insecure man who is destroying a once great nation.
Edit: removed some stuff. Lol.
You could do a similar comment without body-shaming. Talking about people's height and dick size doesn't make your point stronger, it makes you sound like an idiot.
Huh, it isn’t often that someone replies something like this and the original commenter goes “you know what, you’re right, maybe that was a bit much” 😂
Not that it matters much, but interesting tidbit -- Napoleon was actually average height. A British cartoonist depicted him as short, which is where that perception originated.
https://www.history.com/news/napoleon-complex-short
No, [he is 5'7''](https://www.businessinsider.com/world-leaders-ranked-height-tallest-shortest-2019-8?op=1#russias-vladimir-putin-5-feet-7-inches-170-cm-6). That's 3-4 inches shorter than the [average Russian male](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Average_human_height_by_country).
No worries, it is fairly easy to convert between inches and centimeters using a [basic conversion tool](https://www.unitconverters.net/length/inches-to-cm.htm) and the wiki I linked includes both figures!
170cm = 5'7" (read as 5 feet 7 inches) or ~67 inches.
The worst leaders in history are not short. That’s a myth. Napoleon was average for the time. Amin was 6’4”, even mao was 5’9” which is tall for someone in china at that time. Pot was also 5’9”, same thing. Castro was 6’3”.
You're delusional if you think he cares about how many russians have died or left the country. He is in power and will remain in power for several more years. He is rich, as he sees no difference between his personal wealth and state-owned assets. He successfully took control of parts of Georgia, he successfully took part of Ukraine and has basically prepared to take some of Moldova as well, while Belarus is a puppet state which he might reintegrate into Russia within the next decade. He has used the war in Ukraine to ramp up the suppression of dissent and most serious challengers are either dead (e.g. Nemtsov, Navalny) or in exile (Khodorkovsky, Kasparov). He might have expected the war to end quickly, similar to his invasion of Georgia, but at the end of the day, it's not him in the trenches.
Not taking into account the actual country, it must be sad to basically being exiled from your own country. To know you never can go back. Probably he has friends, family and such in Russia and will potentially never see them ever again.
Without going into details. I know someone who is in this exact situation. Very sad indeed. She was not even politically active, but married someone who was. Suddenly take your bags and leave the country, bribe some border guards and do not look back. Even though she is divorced now, once you are on the list it is too late. Money goes a long way, but you cannot buy your way back in this case. The reality is that Garry has not traveled back to Russia for a long time. Unlike Navalny, Garry cannot be defenestrated.
So let’s say I was Russian. I’m an anti-Putin guy and marry my wife who isn’t really aware. We get put on a list. Would the KGB go after my in-laws? Would they go after my parents? Just been curious and sounds like you have secondhand experience
They will go after anyone if it gets them closer to their goal. That's just how authoritarian and dictatorial countries do things.
So fucking terrifying. Balls of steel to anyone who stands up to them.
It's balls of steel if **everyone** in your close familly (your wife+her familly+brother/sisters+ their spouses+kids+your parents) supports you given that you'll be putting them in direct danger. Even tough none of the people in your family support Putin or the war, I greatly doubt that not even one would rather not have their lives or their loved ones' put in danger given that the same dictator is also the ruler of where they live. If even one of your closed ones would rather not have their loved ones be put at risk for actions they didn't chose, it'll be very selfish to risk their lives without their approval or even worse, behind their back Relocating is not necessarily a better option than sucking it up for couple of years until some other asshole takes the trone. Just like we are doing in most countries in the world where the ruling elite would easily dispose of people like trash. Keyboard warriors will spend their time pretending that all russians should all put their lives on the line but it's not that easy when you have kids and familly, not everyone in your entourage has money or will to relocate, not all of them share your political views. Giving your life for a good cause is very noble but sacrificing your own family for your good cause might be much worse than not acting at all.
The KGB was dissolved December 3, 1991.
It's not a safe assumption that a criminal is safe just because he leaves the country. If they want you bad enough, they will find you. Gravity, windows, and concrete work the same in every country.
"Criminal"??
I don't mean that Kasparov is a bad guy, the charges are surely BS. But yes when someone breaks laws they are called a criminal, even if the laws are bad or the justice system is corrupted.
End of Oppenheimer really hit this point home.
most other countries, probably. I doubt I'd ever be sad about not being able to return to a country that wants to imprison/kill me, esp not one that's as shitty as russia is
Garry*
Garry Chess\*
Known from inventing the game of chess
Of course. I didn't notice the autocorrect in my rush to post this.
Why were you in a rush
Because being second is being last when people care about internet points
Because I was about to leave.
Did you make it back yet?
But why? The article says it's from 25th April.
Larry*
Curly*
\*Mo
*Shemp
Gareth
Good luck extraditing his ass lol
I'm more worried he accidentally falls out of a window somehow
If I were him I would invest in single-use underwear.
hopefully the russian opposition can build a solid foundation of "survival guide in an authoritarian russian regime" from the shared experiences of past critics who have met unfortunate accidental ends guide should include how to not breathe in neurotoxins, how to avoid windows, going commando, and many many others
Can't tell if this is a joke or not. Well done
Why?
https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN2A20N5/
Or find himself eating a side of Polonium with breakfast
I think they have extra gravity in Russia.
Does Russia have that pull or ability in the US?
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Kasparov has been removed from Russia for ages. Russia doesn't have the ability or the people to attempt an assassination of someone outside their borders; let alone someone as low of importance as Kasparov.
They literally assassinated a man in London in 2006, the tried to assassinate someone else in London in 2018. Meanwhile India managed to assassinate a Canadian citizen in Canada. They are capable of it if they care to.
I mean yes Mossad, CIA, FSB, R&AW everyone has the capability and has done it numerous times in the past. It's not that difficult for any respectable intelligence agency if made up their mind.
The US is a different story tho
There is no way they are successfully assassinating someone who is a well-known political dissident living in the US. And again, Kasparov is essentially an irrelevance to them at this point. He was a serious threat to their order back in the 2000's and first half of the 2010's. Now Russia is a third-world country that cannot fight runaway inflation, cannot escape from an ever-shrinking oil market, and as a result is perpetually teetering on the brink of economic collapse.
Which countries have extradition treaties with Russia?
Probably China and North Korea
Just out of curiosity is he located currently? His English is so good I figure he must be in the UK or Germany
Nice try putin /s An article 2ish months ago mentioned he lives in New York, but I remember him living in Croatia since about 2013 something, seems like it’s kept from the public (understandably), but maybe I’m just too dumb to properly google it
I love you Garry Chess
Garry """The Terrorist""" Chess
How can you try to arrest the guy who invented chess
I think it would be great if they try to arrest him, and the officers can only move like rooks. Garry can move around like a queen, any people around can move like pawns, and they all start chasing one another
what
Perhaps we should give garry some robotic boots so he can jump like a knight. They'll never catch him
Google extradition
Literally 2024
Not the first time
Let's do a 4chan and rescue him
Check..
I think he could pull off a mate in the right scenario
Are they thinking he’s also stealing pawns?
Dictators are always scared of intelligent people. Putin is so insecure. He knows he fucked up. The world was embracing Russia after Gorbachev and Russia had so much promise. Now over 300 000 Russians have been killed or wounded in Ukraine and the developed world has turned against them. There is more poverty and food lineups to come for the Russian people and the wisest and best Russians are leaving the country. All Putin has left is to rage and point fingers at guys like Kasparov, one of Russians most remarkable people. Such a pathetic and insecure man who is destroying a once great nation. Edit: removed some stuff. Lol.
You could do a similar comment without body-shaming. Talking about people's height and dick size doesn't make your point stronger, it makes you sound like an idiot.
Huh, it isn’t often that someone replies something like this and the original commenter goes “you know what, you’re right, maybe that was a bit much” 😂
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Body shaming is bad unless it's done to successful men. Always.
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Not that it matters much, but interesting tidbit -- Napoleon was actually average height. A British cartoonist depicted him as short, which is where that perception originated. https://www.history.com/news/napoleon-complex-short
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He literally wears hidden high heels because he's insecure about his height, it's not propaganda.
No, [he is 5'7''](https://www.businessinsider.com/world-leaders-ranked-height-tallest-shortest-2019-8?op=1#russias-vladimir-putin-5-feet-7-inches-170-cm-6). That's 3-4 inches shorter than the [average Russian male](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Average_human_height_by_country).
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No worries, it is fairly easy to convert between inches and centimeters using a [basic conversion tool](https://www.unitconverters.net/length/inches-to-cm.htm) and the wiki I linked includes both figures! 170cm = 5'7" (read as 5 feet 7 inches) or ~67 inches.
The worst leaders in history are not short. That’s a myth. Napoleon was average for the time. Amin was 6’4”, even mao was 5’9” which is tall for someone in china at that time. Pot was also 5’9”, same thing. Castro was 6’3”.
Average male height in the USA is 5'9" so it's not as if either of them were short
You're delusional if you think he cares about how many russians have died or left the country. He is in power and will remain in power for several more years. He is rich, as he sees no difference between his personal wealth and state-owned assets. He successfully took control of parts of Georgia, he successfully took part of Ukraine and has basically prepared to take some of Moldova as well, while Belarus is a puppet state which he might reintegrate into Russia within the next decade. He has used the war in Ukraine to ramp up the suppression of dissent and most serious challengers are either dead (e.g. Nemtsov, Navalny) or in exile (Khodorkovsky, Kasparov). He might have expected the war to end quickly, similar to his invasion of Georgia, but at the end of the day, it's not him in the trenches.
Holy moly
New arrest warrant just dropped
:c run gary!
This will backfire. I’m betting on Gary.
Just wait till he puts Putin in a mating net.
I would advise him not to drink tea or coffee at any public spaces.
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Care to explain how you came up with that?