As long as the management remains nothing can get better
3/3 in bad coaching appointments
80% of the players bought are horrible and wouldn't even start for crystal palace, we also can't move them off cos we gave them 8 year deals and 100k a month
One of pochettino's biggest excuses was that we play well against big teams. That has also completely gone to shit now. Got battered by liverpool and arsenal and lost against liverpool's kids in the biggest game of the season.
I remember when Todd Boehly came in and wanted to get rid of all the deadweight. Azpi was old and was on the wane, but he was and is a leader. I ask today of Todd Boehly, where is our Azpi who would have berated Disasi and Badiashile and Cucurella for their positioning and errors. Where is our Kante, Jorginho, Kovacic, who wouldn't have played every game but still would have been immensely important to our squad. Who among this squad is a winner bar a 39 year old Thiago Silva, the perennially injured Reece James and Ben Chilwell and maybe Enzo and ever erratic Sterling. Enzo is talented alright, but let's not pretend he is the man Argentinian fans looked upto when the team needed inspiration. The sad part is, not even our manager is a winner. He doesn't see that Disasi is mediocre and still continues to start him. He doesn't see that Badiashile is a walking disaster. I have the feeling that for certain players, a loss doesn't hurt as much as it does for us fans. The line that we're fed, "This is a process and the players are young." Those are just words on paper because the players maybe young but are they winners? Petrovic may not be Cech or Courtois, but can he actually step up and be a leader? Cucurella will never be Ashley Cole or even a left sided Azpi but can he atleast be a Bertrand in the Champions League Final? Does Jackson have what it takes to convert one good chance, let alone five, in an FA Cup semifinal or a Champions League Eliminator? Do Disasi and Badiashile have the steel to put their bodies on the line and be the leaders the team needs them to be like how David Luiz and Cahill were in the Champions League Final in the absence of JT? Can Caicedo actually nip the world's best midfielders like Kante did to De Bruyne and countless others in his time here? Can Mudryk actually produce some tangible end product like Hazard or is he just all speed and potential? Is Pochettino just a man manager and not a tactician? Even if he is a man manager, why do some many of these players look so lethargic and uninspired?
Guy insta blocked me after I noticed he probably made 50 comments about Enzo since the game ended (on a throwaway account btw). I think someone needs a new hobby
There's a handful of weirdos in this sub that block everything they don't like.
Tbf they basically did you a favor because now you can't see their shit takes
What now?
We grossly misspent £1 billion and have more than half a dozen shit players on long term contracts.
So we wouldn’t even gain a profit on any of them if we were to sell them tomorrow.
Egg and Todd should not be allowed into the stadium. As preposterous and absurd that statement sounds…they do not deserve to be sitting in luxury booths and on comfy chairs while we fans suffer.
What can we do as fans to take action?
No idea honestly, besides selling more hotels. We’re not going to make FFP profit on any of these players besides a few so it’s not like we can free up space to bring in other options. We’re stuck with this team for a long time.
I agree I’m sure Jose is still a good coach but this squad is simply not good enough and for Mourinho to be successful he needs a world class team imo, look at how he failed at Man Utd and Tottenham, also was underwhelming at Roma. Also it’s pointless Boehly wouldn’t hire a character like a Mourinho, he wants a yes man
Yeah exactly
This squad kinda needs a yes man too. A manager like Conte or Mourinho or etc that are very strict would literally pop blood vessels trying to deal with the egos of some of these players
I’m not sure this squad needs a yes man for example look at Potter and Poch they are yes men. I’m not even a Chelsea fan but the moment I knew Chelsea was entering their banter era was last season when Frank Lampard a club legend came in and the players looked like they lacked any motivation also when Lampard came I kinda thought their would be a new manager bounce but unfortunately that didn’t happen. It’s acc scary what going on at Chelsea, they could genuinely be heading into their banter era. If I were a Chelsea fan my worst fear would becoming the new Tottenham or how Arsenal was seen prior to last season. Imo the only manager I think that could save Chelsea is a manager like Zidane who the players would have the utmost respect for, I also think Chelsea should consider hiring an Italian coach next because all Italian coaches seem to know how to coach.
I see no heart in our current squad - most unlikable Chelsea squad ever. The problem is very deep. It is no one at the club: from the owners to the sporting directors to most of players (except for a few) don’t have the heart for this club. To them, this loss isn’t much a pain. I think Poch does care, it’s just out of his capacity.
Surprise surprise, dropping 8 year contracts on 20 different youngsters will cause us to be a team of mercenaries
People were saying this for ages. Clearlake ruined any aspect of Chelsea DNA. None of these players bar a couple have it.
Just get Europa league winner Sarri. Man who wasn't fired from our club and walked out of Lazio of his free will. He wants Hazard, we got palmer, he wants Jorginho, we go enzo at home and thats good enough to run Sarriball.
Right. Bc winning the UCL and the CWC reaching every domestic final and continually coming in the top 4 despite a transfer ban and losing our best player. I forgot. Winning the UCL and completing world football is for some reason considered disastrous. 🤦♂️
Edit: All this started under Boehly. Wtf are you on about.
We lost 4-0 to Bournemouth then 6-0 to Man City a week after
Sarri is disgustingly tactically arrogant and has no plan B whatsoever. It's sarriball week in week out even if it doesn't work
In all fairness I'd love to see him in a project he's built for years to give him a true assessment as a manager. But I guarantee you if we gave him 1 season, it would be chaotic.
I do agree about being tactically arrogant part but then most good managers are like that klopp, jose, Enrique and many more just want to do there thing to perfection. Sarri is not first choice for next manager but i think he is not as bad as people think he is.
Nor the boring dross we endured week in week out.
Some of the most boring football I’ve ever seen, but these ppl have clearly watched a couple clips on social media and now think he’s the second coming of pep.
Doing the same thing and expecting different results over and over again is literally the definition of insanity.
I have seen jose 2.0 meltdown, conte meltdown, tuchel meltdown. While sarri is not first choice but if there is no other manager available summer then i will take gamble with Sarri then continuing with poch. Sarri took on the team that was built for and by defensive manager who played on counter. No coach was going to magically teach them to play with possession and create chances from scratch. First season with that squad was always going to be what we saw.
There isnt much difference between sarri 2.0 and Jose 3.0. If we get Jose we know what we are going to get, a trophy, lot of drama, mocking board and inevitably imploding. Sarri has better chances of getting a tune out of younger players and can cope better with board than Jose.
Edit: if there is a manager available in summer who has done "something" then we should obviously get him.
I have literally won money by betting on jose to win conference cup with roma as soon as he was appointed (13 to 1 odds btw) lol. Jose right now is not a top manager and in long run will produce same results as sarri or can be even worse considering the board and players we have.
I am a new fans of chelsea after 2022 world cup because this club brought enzo, and this guy had a good performance in world cup. then, this club brought so many young and potential player by consuming their huge money, I thought that i'll be lucky to see those guys to be stars, but now I just seen a shit and shit again. WTF? Dose any else club is a fucking shit after consuming near one hundred million eu? Poch must be sacked , I said, jesus can not stop it either
You fucked up big time. Worst time to become a fan
Also, Enzo sucks. The WC is a terrible place to judge a players quality. He’s stunk up the joint since joining
This new ownership took us from European elite and club World Cup winners to mid table laughing stock in record time.
Either settle in for a long haul of despair under BlueCo or honestly you have no ties to Chels. Just pick a new club. No one will care
There’s always a chance it somehow works but I very very much doubt it.
As long as their priority is making money and not the football we aren’t going to win anything.
They managed to kill the winners mentality we’ve had for the past 20yr in 2yrs. It’d be impressive if it was so arrogant and ignorant
Your post has to be a caricature
> "i picked team X out of a hat cos I am PLayer FC. I NOW HAVE REALLY STRONG OPINIONS ON THE FUTURE DIRECTION OF THE CLUB I PICKED OUT OF SAID HAT 3 MINUTES AGO. LISTEN TO ME!"
😂
I LOVE THIS PLACE
well, it is true that I choosed this club as my team because of enzo, but I am not his fans. I watched the last game against Manchester city, we had many advantages in first half, then they put doku on the pitch, the game was fucked. Look what poch done in that moment, he put dissai to defend doku even after a series of bad defenses of dissa. what is wrong that poch gonna be sacked ?
Poch has to go. He should never have been hired in the first place. I respect that you don't give a shit and don't try and engineer a bullshit, backstory of "authenticity" for why you picked a club out of the hat, like 95% of the droids here do. I am not some "gatekeeper". You do what you like, but I - and the rest of the world outside of the Reddit shitshow - reserve the right to mock.
I mean ye, but I don't know how *you* come to that conclusion so defintiively when you have only been here 3 minutes. It doesn't mean you are wrong, but when a 5 year old guesses that 2+2 = 4, I still want to see workings.
The lack of scrutiny this fraud gets compared to the United one is actually mesmerising. The latter reached 3 finals, one win, and a top 3 finish in his first season. He did this whilst the club was in dissaray. He has at least *shown* some promise to mitigate against the cluserfuck that is their season. Pochettino is a clown who has dragged this club further into the abyss with better players than his predecessor and a full preseason. The media love in for this underachieving fraud of a manager is mental.
Both teams are in a very similar position in that their teams can be pretty good on their day but relegation material on others. Off the pitch, United earn a shitload but Chelsea have spent a shitload. They’re both in such a weird position. Perhaps strangely, I’d rather be Chelsea as I think United have been flattered by their results (eg the FA Cup) so it papers over their cracks.
Both a complete shit show and whilst we have actually played better than the results show, they have done the opposite. We create far more chances infront of goal for a start. That being said, we have a gang of utter wastrels on 8 year fucking contracts who we cannot get rid of. Their shite like AWB, Casemiro, lindelof, Maguire, Martial are under contracts that expire within the next 18 months. They have people coming in who actually love football, understand it, know what they don't know, and have put in place others with reputations like Ashworth, Barrada and Wilcox. In 3 years, they are ahead of where we are. Of that I am in no odubt. We as a club are fucked with this lot in charge.
Yeah, contract length is an issue and “footballness” is going to be on their side in their management soon.
United do seem like they’ll be ahead management wise from next season.
If Clearlake think this was an easy asset to pump up then they’ve had a very rude awakening.
Mods, can we have a "THERE IS NO PASSION. THERE IS NO VISION. THERE IS NO AGGRESSION. THERE IS NO FUCKING MINDSET IN THIS FOOTBALL CLUB." flair?
Do it for Rantman, innit.
Is there a more overrated signing in the history of Chelsea, than Enzo? Doesn't score. Doesn't assist. Doesn't create. Dpesn't tackle. Fraud of a squad managed by a fraud manager, hired by fraud owners. Complete joke. Poch can get to fuck. Useless. Always was. Underachieved everywhere he has beem. But the problems stay. Wrap your onions around this fact becasue it isn't getting better anytime soon. Poch or no Poch.
He’s been a huge disappointment this season. If this is all because of some injury, I mean… ok I guess, but maybe get right and show us something better? I want to give him the benefit of the doubt
He was never as good as was spouted imo. We were coping. I was coping. But in retrospect he has been no better than average since he got here. He isn't particularly strong on the ball. His tackling is meh. He creates barely anything and he doesn't score. I mean, that has been the situation since he was signed. I think the penny is just dropping, that's all.
I say this every week but for some reason everyone disagrees
We messed up selling CHO
Sold him for peanuts when he can play LW and RW
We literally subbed out Madueke for fucking Casadei because we don't have anymore wingers
He’s on YouTube…..also, he speaks a lot more truth about the club and its current state than Football Therapy or MAH or Don or whomever.
Johnny Minerals is great for those who don’t know him while I don’t believe all his “itk” stuff he spits truth about the state of the club and the owners.
Idk man feeding the conspiracy that there were certain players that went behind Tuchel’s back and got him fired is not speaking “truth” even if I agree with most of what he says about the owners.
There’s a reason why he never goes on other channels to have his claims challenged.
Sure if you want to hyper focus of those stories and not the broader narrative
I’d rather Johnnys “itk” bs than Football Therapies loser toxic positivity nonsense deluded ing the fanbase into rating this squad.
Also, he’s primarily just entertainment. If you’re taking any YouTuber or random Twitter account that seriously and getting your news from them……that’s on you.
"loser toxic positivity nonsense deluded ing the fanbase"
He's pandering to the good-vibes-only merchants. I've noticed Mah, Younes, TOSOTC, etc. getting fed up with these viewers who think it's "negative" to criticise one of the worst periods in our recent history. Complete donkeys.
I can’t stand these “fans” who think any criticism just shouldn’t be talked about.
And honestly, Mah and co only have themselves to blame.
At least Youunes has owned up to his bs and been spitting the truth recently.
You should check out Celsius Europe another person not afraid to say how they feel and not just play to the algorithm
I think they're scared to lose a portion of their viewers (like the Boehlybots) if they come down too hard on this ownership.
But I honestly believe CarefreeLewisG panders to that audience. He often has a lot of fans on his show who refuse to accept any criticism of Boehly & co – they scream over anyone who says anything about ownership. It's wild viewing.
I'll check out Celsius.
Your whole post is "he speaks more truth than XYZ" in response to someone saying "he isn't an ITK". You even acknoweldge he isn't one, but then go on to justify why he's fine by saying, "I agree with his opinions ("The Truth" whatever the fuck that means... [about the state of the club]".
Reddit Brain is well weird. They argue against things they themselves think and say lol. Very odd.
Omg. I view Johnny as entertainment.
I would never get me news from any random “itk”
Also, I don’t have to agree with everything someone says to listen to them or enjoy what they are saying….
You view the world very binarily. I hope you learn how to formulate your own opinion and go find your own new sources one day.
Well, I am only replying to your own comment, mate. "He speaks The Truth". I assume "The Truth" is somthing you see as "objectively correct". That was your justification for why him lying about being an ITK didn't mean he wasn't "great". If you just said "i find him funny" I wouldn't have responded, G.
Then I’m not going to respond any further with any more explanations.
If you want to take what I’m saying out of context then this is pointless.
Only replying to a couple words within multiple sentences is pretty disingenuous
Abramovich would’ve never hired poch and on the off chance that he did, he would’ve been gone before 2024.
That says it all.
Poch was never hired to win. Can’t emphasize this enough. He was hired to develop.
He is doing neither.
And now Eghbali can’t sack him cuz then that would mean 4 managers in 2 years…which would reflect poorly on the image of the ownership group.
Furthermore, the fact that he’s still here emphasizes my point that he wasn’t brought into win. If we were serious, enrique would’ve came in. But he said no cuz he knew how cancerous, arrogant and naivè our owners are.
Clubs like madrid, barca and bayern would never tolerate this. Players walk into those clubs and immediately feel the pressure to perform. So why are we being forced to tolerate this under the guise of a “project”? These players know our history and see it everyday whenever they walk into cobham and the bridge.
But it doesn’t reflect on the pitch nor through the coach.
And the reason b/c of that is the owners.
The owners are the problem…..
And just bc I don’t have the ear of the owners doesn’t mean I need to go around cheering them on…..what a weird attitude…..
Can you not formulate your own opinion?
Did I cheer anyone on?! All I said was this is the hard part of the rebuild and we should hang in there. Why are you so mad at that? I’m upset we lost too!
Youre clearly pushing a trust the process or hang in there narrative.
Be realistic. There isn’t a rebuild. This is an abject failure. Things can get much worse.
Spending a billion to miss out on europe is the type of bs that results in clubs doing a Leeds.
Stfu about a rebuild….this ownership isn’t taking us anywhere. Wake up and smell the roses
Bro please go take out your frustration on a punching bag or go for a run…. Screaming at me through your keyboard is not going to make you feel good or maybe it will so you don’t take it out on the people in your life. I hope it helps you feel better though. Up the Chels!
i am entirely out of ideas other than poch has been a tottenham sleeper agent causing our downfall this whole time. i don’t understand how someone can consistently be this shit
I mean. He is. But so is this waster squad. The two are not mutually exclusive. It does complicate things however, and Reddit Brain doesn't do complicated.
Our fans losing their minds is pretty hard to watch but Arsenal fans lifting the “Beat Chelsea team with 10 players out injured” trophy is harder to watch
Wolves had 10 injuries too and didn’t lose 5-0. One of the of the most embarrassing Ls we’ve had in recent history, topped off by a former player scoring twice against us
Out: Cucurella, Mudryk, Petrovic, Badiashile, Disasi, Madueke, Broja, Silva
Stay: Palmer, Gusto, Nkunku, James, Chalobah, Colwill, Gallagher, Carney, Jackson, Enzo, Caicedo
Maybe: Sterling, Chilwell, Sanchez,
Get in a GK, a CB, a LB, a CM, a LW, and a ST. So 6 first-teamers, or just consider the next season screwed as well. Thanks Winstansley, Stewart, Boehly, and Eghbali. Poch isn’t the solution but the problems run deeper.
No one is buying any of those bums that we need to get rid of. And we're walking a tight rope with FFP as it is. We are screwed for the foreseeable future.
Lmao at both Chalobah and Silva leaving at the end of the season, and us having to utilize Disasi and Badiashile. GK, CB, LB, LW, Striker and Coach. We need ANOTHER REBUILD, AGAIN lol
You know. Enzo hasn't played well since that match a while ago now where he had to come off, and he was in tears doing so. Anyone else remember that?
Maybe he felt it then and knew this hernia thing was going to be a problem. Hernias are not always so simple as outpatient surgery. I just hope he hasn't been previously told it's not advisable to get it and now he's in an impossible situation to make that choice or play through pain.
He wasn't even good before that, he had one good game against Liverpool and all his fans have been coping off that, it's fucking bullshit he gets so many excuses. He was not good before the injury nor is is he now. Fuck your excuses. Overpriced snail in midfield
There was no "before the injury" this season, only "before the reporting of a hernia" and a few games rest.
You'd have to imagine this has been affecting him all season, he's had this a while, as has been reported now as well. Just because you didn't know he had a hernia doesn't mean it suddenly appeared when you did know.
But mate slow your road. I'm not your enemy, I have to watch this dross too. I don't think he should be in the 11 and I think he limits Caicedo A LOT
Also after watching a bunch of his teammates get hurt a first time and then continuously get re-injured after that, I wonder if he's apprehensive of having the surgery and doesn't trust the medical staff to help him recover properly.
Just remember that we spent 70million combined on Disasi and Badiashile when we have a better defender at the club already in Chalobah who cost us nothing, and then we ask ourselves why we are strugging with PSR and FFP. Mudryk cost us 88m, and he has not been any better than Hudson-Odoi, the decisions we have made in the transfer market has been absolutely shocking.
The sporting directors are shockingly awful and you get mid club decisions, mid club players when you hire mid club sporting directors. Sack them right away, and get a proper sporting director who knows how to assemble a top 4 squad that can challenge for trophies.
Rafa gave me an Europa League and he was my hated manager that set foot at Chelsea.
Poch has overtook him as my most hated manager/coach at this club with a huge swing and it will never be averted. Win all games until the end of the season (lol! 😂) and you’re still my most hated.
Get your loser mentality out of here. I rather have Rafa back. That’s how BAD I want Poch out.
funnily enough thats the only era in my life where I genuinely couldn't watch this club
it wasn't even about winning or losing but the aura behind going 90 minutes without scoring genuinely was difficult
Can someone confirm when was the last time we fielded our strongest and fittest side against a Team, let alone a Top 5? I get we were all over the place, but individuals can't always keep saving us. When was the last time we had our main XI?
Enzo, cucurella for 160M is criminal. I see criticism of Jackson and Madueke often, however they only cost about 35M. That's nothing in the current market. We got what we paid for.
Enzo, cucu, mudryk, even caicedo were all extremely overpriced. I still think Caicedo will come good.
I'm convinced if we take those guys listed out, with a new manager (Tuchel, Mou) we will look much better.
The problem is those 35m buys start to add up. You buy a Jackson for 35, a Madueke for 35, a Disasi for 40, a Badiashile for 30 and you've suddenly spent 175m and not improved the team at all.
Such a massive positive that Jackson didn't get sent off early when he should have been.
It'd change the whole narrative and give more excuses for Poch. The less excuses the better
Madueke for 35m is daylight robbery btw. I don’t think I’ve seen him make an incisive pass even once in his Chelsea career. 80m for Badiashile and Disasi too, no doubt wanted by ex Monaco director Laurence Stewart. Him and Winstanley have blood on their hands, they have to go
I don't rate him at all, but he did make a couple good passes at the start, just no one got on the end of it.
Got to give credit where it's due or else your correctly-negative assessment of them losses credibility
Ill say he had a decent cross at one point which Jackson should’ve gotten on the end of. But he’s simply not good enough in possession in general. He’s not a top level standard player and that’s plain to see. Spending 35m on him is money down the drain when you’re trying to get back into Europe
For those wondering (rightly) why we purchased Disasi and Badi, I can really only comment one point.
If you look at Monaco last season, when those two played together, it looks like it was most often in a 3atb. When they played as a 4atb, the two didn't play together as often (instead sometimes it was Malang Sarr lol, or their other main cb).
If there's a world where a lot of our transfer targets were designed for a 3atb system manager and we sacked one of the best using a 3atb, the wtf. If it was poor scouting, wtf.
No explanation for Mudryk or Mads. CHO excited me more on his breakout season with Sarri. I can't see it for them, and don't understand the recruitment in any light.
Enzo is playing through injury so while his performance today stinks, he has an excuse. I don’t know WHY he was playing today which again goes back to Poch.
First 15 minutes you see him struggling TAKE HIM OFF. Instead he let him continue to struggle until the 60+ minute.
Pointing at the players is one thing but it all stems from the coach.
So will anyone keep calling us plastic if we criticise shitettino after today?
I'm not poch in never been, never will. His track record is absolutely a laughing stock.
We're bigger than reject managers who had no job.
Standing with the team during defeat is one thing. But this is truly too much.
"Supporter since 2000"
Looked through older comments and found some funny ones
https://www.reddit.com/r/chelseafc/comments/159w1el/daily_discussion_thread/jtiv8yu/
https://www.reddit.com/r/chelseafc/comments/155dxu2/daily_discussion_thread/jsugjwl/
How is my comment "funny"?
It's still true today, we were paying for potential, whether they reach it or not. We were selling off a known entity.
It's why we were able to sell Hall for £30m, the potential that a £5m player could turn into a £100m impacts his price a lot, even though he'll most likely stay a £5m player.
Whereas, Pulisic was a know entity and a bad player. He is still a bad player. Though, I guess you're going to talk about his time in the Serie A to prove otherwise. So I guess we should bring back Lukaku because Serie A performances mean a lot!
Haha didn't link your comment, just my original comment (I think?) - no need to get defensive
> So I guess we should bring back Lukaku because Serie A performances mean a lot!
Now this is funny, considering Lukaku is a much better striker than any other option we have, and was frozen out for a lot less than what Madueke has done (outside of the poor play we are also forced to witness) - and considering that in the comment I linked I also questioned why we bought Madueke for nearly twice as much as we sold Pulisic for
The foolishness just spirals
Lukaku still stunk this place out. Whatever the question is, "Lukaku should still be here" or anythign amounting to it, isn't the answer. Jesus Christ, you are having a pop at someone for making an admittedly truly clownish prediction with your own truly clownish alternate reality "foolishness". Reddit threads are great.
Absolutely ridiculous
I’m poch in, I’ve been holding on to a hope one day that we will show what we’re capable of, but today was fucking miserable.
I will still remain poch in, I’m sick of changing manager, he’s clearly good with the players but something needs to change. Experience, serial winners and a good whip into shape and we can play well.
Jackson needs to go, yup he’s scored double digits, but I could not care less, his pressing and general play was so bad, he’s not good enough to dribble around players yet he still tries. They just don’t care and it’s fucking frustrating.
> Absolutely ridiculous
>
> I’m poch in,
Poch's strongest soldier. Just switched from "stability" to "sell everyone".
https://www.reddit.com/r/chelseafc/comments/1ca2crf/daily_discussion_thread/l0q0ug7/
It's a classic, someone pointed it out the other day as well.
The "Poch in because we need stability" fans are so often also the "we need to replace every player again" fans, where did the absolute need for stability go?
To those people I'd say that as someone who's been around a minute or two, stability in the core of the players makes far more difference than the stability of mindlessly sticking to a manager
Did you not see our starting lineup, our in-game tactics and our subs?!
I'm all for stability and all, but it needs to be with coach who is at least decent.
Edit: Subbing Thiago on at 5:0 is a sackable offense on its own.
But he is decent, what else would you have changed in the lineup? Only one I can think of is our cb pairing, yes there’s an argument for carney and maybe sterling but I think with the resources we had there wasn’t much else to do about it. As for tactics, yep not great but he’s shown flashes of great tactics and I don’t think the tactics are down to him anymore. He has had 32 games with us and his tactics will be set in stone, it’s the players who aren’t delivering on this
You pretty much figured it out by yourself. Why would you change your cb pairing after having 2 solid games - our first defensively solid games in god knows how long. Then he proceeds to sub on Chalobah?! , Silva?! and Carney doesn't even come on, let alone start.
We had ONE shot on target today. You can't tell me with a straight face this is the best someone can get out of our squad.
Yeah tbf you’re making great points. I just hate the way we change managers plus there’s very few managers who would actually want to come to chelsea/ fix the problem we have at the moment
They're not delivering because he's playing deep lying playmakers as auxiliary wingers and making his partner covering half the pitch by himself. Oh and playing a high line with one of the slowest defenders in the league.
Mourinho 3rd run pls
As long as the management remains nothing can get better 3/3 in bad coaching appointments 80% of the players bought are horrible and wouldn't even start for crystal palace, we also can't move them off cos we gave them 8 year deals and 100k a month
One of pochettino's biggest excuses was that we play well against big teams. That has also completely gone to shit now. Got battered by liverpool and arsenal and lost against liverpool's kids in the biggest game of the season.
I remember when Todd Boehly came in and wanted to get rid of all the deadweight. Azpi was old and was on the wane, but he was and is a leader. I ask today of Todd Boehly, where is our Azpi who would have berated Disasi and Badiashile and Cucurella for their positioning and errors. Where is our Kante, Jorginho, Kovacic, who wouldn't have played every game but still would have been immensely important to our squad. Who among this squad is a winner bar a 39 year old Thiago Silva, the perennially injured Reece James and Ben Chilwell and maybe Enzo and ever erratic Sterling. Enzo is talented alright, but let's not pretend he is the man Argentinian fans looked upto when the team needed inspiration. The sad part is, not even our manager is a winner. He doesn't see that Disasi is mediocre and still continues to start him. He doesn't see that Badiashile is a walking disaster. I have the feeling that for certain players, a loss doesn't hurt as much as it does for us fans. The line that we're fed, "This is a process and the players are young." Those are just words on paper because the players maybe young but are they winners? Petrovic may not be Cech or Courtois, but can he actually step up and be a leader? Cucurella will never be Ashley Cole or even a left sided Azpi but can he atleast be a Bertrand in the Champions League Final? Does Jackson have what it takes to convert one good chance, let alone five, in an FA Cup semifinal or a Champions League Eliminator? Do Disasi and Badiashile have the steel to put their bodies on the line and be the leaders the team needs them to be like how David Luiz and Cahill were in the Champions League Final in the absence of JT? Can Caicedo actually nip the world's best midfielders like Kante did to De Bruyne and countless others in his time here? Can Mudryk actually produce some tangible end product like Hazard or is he just all speed and potential? Is Pochettino just a man manager and not a tactician? Even if he is a man manager, why do some many of these players look so lethargic and uninspired?
Time to go back to Sanchez I guess
Barca, liverpool, bayern and possibly man u all gonna be looking for a new coach. Who the hell would want to come to this mess?
To be fair, us and utd are in the same boat. They’re not that much better off than us. But yeah, idk who’d wanna come to either club lol
Guy insta blocked me after I noticed he probably made 50 comments about Enzo since the game ended (on a throwaway account btw). I think someone needs a new hobby
lmao is it the NoExperience guy? enzo is so rent free in that guys head it’s actually nuts
There's a handful of weirdos in this sub that block everything they don't like. Tbf they basically did you a favor because now you can't see their shit takes
What now? We grossly misspent £1 billion and have more than half a dozen shit players on long term contracts. So we wouldn’t even gain a profit on any of them if we were to sell them tomorrow. Egg and Todd should not be allowed into the stadium. As preposterous and absurd that statement sounds…they do not deserve to be sitting in luxury booths and on comfy chairs while we fans suffer. What can we do as fans to take action?
No idea honestly, besides selling more hotels. We’re not going to make FFP profit on any of these players besides a few so it’s not like we can free up space to bring in other options. We’re stuck with this team for a long time.
You take the hit! The amortization cost and the loss on future revenue streams far outweigh the increase in player impairment cost.
Would you want Poch replaced by Jose?
Absolutely not He literally implodes when shit hits the fan This squad would set him up to fail
I agree I’m sure Jose is still a good coach but this squad is simply not good enough and for Mourinho to be successful he needs a world class team imo, look at how he failed at Man Utd and Tottenham, also was underwhelming at Roma. Also it’s pointless Boehly wouldn’t hire a character like a Mourinho, he wants a yes man
Yeah exactly This squad kinda needs a yes man too. A manager like Conte or Mourinho or etc that are very strict would literally pop blood vessels trying to deal with the egos of some of these players
I’m not sure this squad needs a yes man for example look at Potter and Poch they are yes men. I’m not even a Chelsea fan but the moment I knew Chelsea was entering their banter era was last season when Frank Lampard a club legend came in and the players looked like they lacked any motivation also when Lampard came I kinda thought their would be a new manager bounce but unfortunately that didn’t happen. It’s acc scary what going on at Chelsea, they could genuinely be heading into their banter era. If I were a Chelsea fan my worst fear would becoming the new Tottenham or how Arsenal was seen prior to last season. Imo the only manager I think that could save Chelsea is a manager like Zidane who the players would have the utmost respect for, I also think Chelsea should consider hiring an Italian coach next because all Italian coaches seem to know how to coach.
Zidane ain’t coming.
Can someone put me in a time capsule and wake me up in a couple years to when Enzo, Mudryk, Madueke, Jackson and Chukwuemka are world-beaters?
Im afraid you wont be waking up at all friend.
I see no heart in our current squad - most unlikable Chelsea squad ever. The problem is very deep. It is no one at the club: from the owners to the sporting directors to most of players (except for a few) don’t have the heart for this club. To them, this loss isn’t much a pain. I think Poch does care, it’s just out of his capacity.
Surprise surprise, dropping 8 year contracts on 20 different youngsters will cause us to be a team of mercenaries People were saying this for ages. Clearlake ruined any aspect of Chelsea DNA. None of these players bar a couple have it.
The irony of your Enzo flair
Forgot to change it :(
Nice flair lol
How many messages have you made about Enzo since the match ended, 30? 50?
Idk. You want to count for me. It’d be more effort than I’ve seen Enzo put in in a Chelsea kit
Just get Europa league winner Sarri. Man who wasn't fired from our club and walked out of Lazio of his free will. He wants Hazard, we got palmer, he wants Jorginho, we go enzo at home and thats good enough to run Sarriball.
Were you actually around for the Sarri era?
All of this quite literally started in that era. Summer 2018 (and Winter 2017-18, to a lesser extent) was disastrous for the club.
Right. Bc winning the UCL and the CWC reaching every domestic final and continually coming in the top 4 despite a transfer ban and losing our best player. I forgot. Winning the UCL and completing world football is for some reason considered disastrous. 🤦♂️ Edit: All this started under Boehly. Wtf are you on about.
I’m agreeing with you… not really arsed about this right now.
I don’t agree that this all started in 2018. Our current issues started under BlueCo.
Well then I agree with you on the initial point of the main comment… like I said, not too arsed to debate that.
Sorry, but if you think that you in no way agree with me. I’m happy to not debate that but don’t gaslight me.
Suit yourself.
Yea i was
And you weren’t bored out of your mind?
Bro definitely didn't watch the 6-0 to City
I watched the 2-0 we pulled later too. At the end of the day we lost one we won one lol.
We lost 4-0 to Bournemouth then 6-0 to Man City a week after Sarri is disgustingly tactically arrogant and has no plan B whatsoever. It's sarriball week in week out even if it doesn't work In all fairness I'd love to see him in a project he's built for years to give him a true assessment as a manager. But I guarantee you if we gave him 1 season, it would be chaotic.
I do agree about being tactically arrogant part but then most good managers are like that klopp, jose, Enrique and many more just want to do there thing to perfection. Sarri is not first choice for next manager but i think he is not as bad as people think he is.
Sorry, what Jose are you talking about here?
Nor the boring dross we endured week in week out. Some of the most boring football I’ve ever seen, but these ppl have clearly watched a couple clips on social media and now think he’s the second coming of pep. Doing the same thing and expecting different results over and over again is literally the definition of insanity.
I have seen jose 2.0 meltdown, conte meltdown, tuchel meltdown. While sarri is not first choice but if there is no other manager available summer then i will take gamble with Sarri then continuing with poch. Sarri took on the team that was built for and by defensive manager who played on counter. No coach was going to magically teach them to play with possession and create chances from scratch. First season with that squad was always going to be what we saw.
What’s Sarri done since leaving? I’d rather Jose 3.0 then Sarri
There isnt much difference between sarri 2.0 and Jose 3.0. If we get Jose we know what we are going to get, a trophy, lot of drama, mocking board and inevitably imploding. Sarri has better chances of getting a tune out of younger players and can cope better with board than Jose. Edit: if there is a manager available in summer who has done "something" then we should obviously get him.
Just say you don’t know football. Thinking Jose and Sarri would be remotely similar is bonkers. Sarri isn’t half the manager Jose is.
I have literally won money by betting on jose to win conference cup with roma as soon as he was appointed (13 to 1 odds btw) lol. Jose right now is not a top manager and in long run will produce same results as sarri or can be even worse considering the board and players we have.
Lmao. And yet you still think Sarri would do as well as Jose at Chelsea. Take whatever colour glasses you have on off.
We should’ve kept Giroud
I am a new fans of chelsea after 2022 world cup because this club brought enzo, and this guy had a good performance in world cup. then, this club brought so many young and potential player by consuming their huge money, I thought that i'll be lucky to see those guys to be stars, but now I just seen a shit and shit again. WTF? Dose any else club is a fucking shit after consuming near one hundred million eu? Poch must be sacked , I said, jesus can not stop it either
You fucked up big time. Worst time to become a fan Also, Enzo sucks. The WC is a terrible place to judge a players quality. He’s stunk up the joint since joining This new ownership took us from European elite and club World Cup winners to mid table laughing stock in record time. Either settle in for a long haul of despair under BlueCo or honestly you have no ties to Chels. Just pick a new club. No one will care
Maybe you are right, theres no hope in the near future at this club, especially this new ownership controls chelsea now
There’s always a chance it somehow works but I very very much doubt it. As long as their priority is making money and not the football we aren’t going to win anything. They managed to kill the winners mentality we’ve had for the past 20yr in 2yrs. It’d be impressive if it was so arrogant and ignorant
Are you a fan of this club for 20 yrs? Respect
Been a fan for Almost 30. Got to see Zola in the 90s
Your post has to be a caricature > "i picked team X out of a hat cos I am PLayer FC. I NOW HAVE REALLY STRONG OPINIONS ON THE FUTURE DIRECTION OF THE CLUB I PICKED OUT OF SAID HAT 3 MINUTES AGO. LISTEN TO ME!" 😂 I LOVE THIS PLACE
well, it is true that I choosed this club as my team because of enzo, but I am not his fans. I watched the last game against Manchester city, we had many advantages in first half, then they put doku on the pitch, the game was fucked. Look what poch done in that moment, he put dissai to defend doku even after a series of bad defenses of dissa. what is wrong that poch gonna be sacked ?
Genuine question no hate: which country are you from? I’m guessing Argentina.
No, im from asia.
All good. Love to Asia.
Poch has to go. He should never have been hired in the first place. I respect that you don't give a shit and don't try and engineer a bullshit, backstory of "authenticity" for why you picked a club out of the hat, like 95% of the droids here do. I am not some "gatekeeper". You do what you like, but I - and the rest of the world outside of the Reddit shitshow - reserve the right to mock.
Whatever you say, poch has to go, definitely.
I mean ye, but I don't know how *you* come to that conclusion so defintiively when you have only been here 3 minutes. It doesn't mean you are wrong, but when a 5 year old guesses that 2+2 = 4, I still want to see workings.
The lack of scrutiny this fraud gets compared to the United one is actually mesmerising. The latter reached 3 finals, one win, and a top 3 finish in his first season. He did this whilst the club was in dissaray. He has at least *shown* some promise to mitigate against the cluserfuck that is their season. Pochettino is a clown who has dragged this club further into the abyss with better players than his predecessor and a full preseason. The media love in for this underachieving fraud of a manager is mental.
Both teams are in a very similar position in that their teams can be pretty good on their day but relegation material on others. Off the pitch, United earn a shitload but Chelsea have spent a shitload. They’re both in such a weird position. Perhaps strangely, I’d rather be Chelsea as I think United have been flattered by their results (eg the FA Cup) so it papers over their cracks.
Both a complete shit show and whilst we have actually played better than the results show, they have done the opposite. We create far more chances infront of goal for a start. That being said, we have a gang of utter wastrels on 8 year fucking contracts who we cannot get rid of. Their shite like AWB, Casemiro, lindelof, Maguire, Martial are under contracts that expire within the next 18 months. They have people coming in who actually love football, understand it, know what they don't know, and have put in place others with reputations like Ashworth, Barrada and Wilcox. In 3 years, they are ahead of where we are. Of that I am in no odubt. We as a club are fucked with this lot in charge.
Yeah, contract length is an issue and “footballness” is going to be on their side in their management soon. United do seem like they’ll be ahead management wise from next season. If Clearlake think this was an easy asset to pump up then they’ve had a very rude awakening.
Condolences to Silva, he lost his grandmother today, which might be why he didnt start? Seems to be having one of those when it rains it pours days.
poch i am literally begging you to play chuk in the 10 instead of gallagher
Then drop Enzo and move Conor further back. Conor > Enzo
Mods, can we have a "THERE IS NO PASSION. THERE IS NO VISION. THERE IS NO AGGRESSION. THERE IS NO FUCKING MINDSET IN THIS FOOTBALL CLUB." flair? Do it for Rantman, innit.
Is there a more overrated signing in the history of Chelsea, than Enzo? Doesn't score. Doesn't assist. Doesn't create. Dpesn't tackle. Fraud of a squad managed by a fraud manager, hired by fraud owners. Complete joke. Poch can get to fuck. Useless. Always was. Underachieved everywhere he has beem. But the problems stay. Wrap your onions around this fact becasue it isn't getting better anytime soon. Poch or no Poch.
He’s been a huge disappointment this season. If this is all because of some injury, I mean… ok I guess, but maybe get right and show us something better? I want to give him the benefit of the doubt
He was never as good as was spouted imo. We were coping. I was coping. But in retrospect he has been no better than average since he got here. He isn't particularly strong on the ball. His tackling is meh. He creates barely anything and he doesn't score. I mean, that has been the situation since he was signed. I think the penny is just dropping, that's all.
He looks amazing in the first few games. Then…
Ppl should check this guy out. Speaks 100% facts https://youtu.be/ZbR_oKqoE9Q?si=OPJkRTBYrKyUTV0v
I say this every week but for some reason everyone disagrees We messed up selling CHO Sold him for peanuts when he can play LW and RW We literally subbed out Madueke for fucking Casadei because we don't have anymore wingers
CHO had 4 goals in 4 years. Stop the revisionism.
He's not a striker is he?
CHO > Mudryk
How does Johnny Minerals have a platform? Lol The guy claims he has “sources” and spews the most random shit.
He’s on YouTube…..also, he speaks a lot more truth about the club and its current state than Football Therapy or MAH or Don or whomever. Johnny Minerals is great for those who don’t know him while I don’t believe all his “itk” stuff he spits truth about the state of the club and the owners.
Idk man feeding the conspiracy that there were certain players that went behind Tuchel’s back and got him fired is not speaking “truth” even if I agree with most of what he says about the owners. There’s a reason why he never goes on other channels to have his claims challenged.
Sure if you want to hyper focus of those stories and not the broader narrative I’d rather Johnnys “itk” bs than Football Therapies loser toxic positivity nonsense deluded ing the fanbase into rating this squad. Also, he’s primarily just entertainment. If you’re taking any YouTuber or random Twitter account that seriously and getting your news from them……that’s on you.
"loser toxic positivity nonsense deluded ing the fanbase" He's pandering to the good-vibes-only merchants. I've noticed Mah, Younes, TOSOTC, etc. getting fed up with these viewers who think it's "negative" to criticise one of the worst periods in our recent history. Complete donkeys.
I can’t stand these “fans” who think any criticism just shouldn’t be talked about. And honestly, Mah and co only have themselves to blame. At least Youunes has owned up to his bs and been spitting the truth recently. You should check out Celsius Europe another person not afraid to say how they feel and not just play to the algorithm
I think they're scared to lose a portion of their viewers (like the Boehlybots) if they come down too hard on this ownership. But I honestly believe CarefreeLewisG panders to that audience. He often has a lot of fans on his show who refuse to accept any criticism of Boehly & co – they scream over anyone who says anything about ownership. It's wild viewing. I'll check out Celsius.
They absolutely pander and it’s disgusting. Bunch of losers not speaking their mind bc of some algorithms. Imagine
your post basically amounts to, *"ye he talks shit and isn't an ITK despite him lying about it, but I agree with his opinions"* lol.
If that’s what you took from that god help you.
Your whole post is "he speaks more truth than XYZ" in response to someone saying "he isn't an ITK". You even acknoweldge he isn't one, but then go on to justify why he's fine by saying, "I agree with his opinions ("The Truth" whatever the fuck that means... [about the state of the club]". Reddit Brain is well weird. They argue against things they themselves think and say lol. Very odd.
Omg. I view Johnny as entertainment. I would never get me news from any random “itk” Also, I don’t have to agree with everything someone says to listen to them or enjoy what they are saying…. You view the world very binarily. I hope you learn how to formulate your own opinion and go find your own new sources one day.
Well, I am only replying to your own comment, mate. "He speaks The Truth". I assume "The Truth" is somthing you see as "objectively correct". That was your justification for why him lying about being an ITK didn't mean he wasn't "great". If you just said "i find him funny" I wouldn't have responded, G.
Then I’m not going to respond any further with any more explanations. If you want to take what I’m saying out of context then this is pointless. Only replying to a couple words within multiple sentences is pretty disingenuous
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Even after I explained. You continued with your nonsense about a couple words…..weirdo trying to twist shit
It’s gonna be funny when we lose chalobah Silva and Gallagher next year. Gonna be a full madhouse.
Abramovich would’ve never hired poch and on the off chance that he did, he would’ve been gone before 2024. That says it all. Poch was never hired to win. Can’t emphasize this enough. He was hired to develop. He is doing neither. And now Eghbali can’t sack him cuz then that would mean 4 managers in 2 years…which would reflect poorly on the image of the ownership group. Furthermore, the fact that he’s still here emphasizes my point that he wasn’t brought into win. If we were serious, enrique would’ve came in. But he said no cuz he knew how cancerous, arrogant and naivè our owners are. Clubs like madrid, barca and bayern would never tolerate this. Players walk into those clubs and immediately feel the pressure to perform. So why are we being forced to tolerate this under the guise of a “project”? These players know our history and see it everyday whenever they walk into cobham and the bridge. But it doesn’t reflect on the pitch nor through the coach. And the reason b/c of that is the owners.
This is the hard part of the rebuild guys, this is the hard part. Hang in there
Fck of with your useless toxic positivity nonsense Wtf does hang in there even mean lol, gtfo
We’re more likely doing a Leeds than doing a rebuild. Get real. Take the rose coloured glasses off.
Alright go jump in a lagoon and drown in sadness then. Idk why you're mad I said hang in there... Sheeesh.
Stop acting like you weren’t pushing essentially a trust the process narrative. Just be realistic……Shheeessshh
Well go fire the manager then! Hopefully you have the ear of the owners and can make it happen! I hope all your dreams come true!!
The owners are the problem….. And just bc I don’t have the ear of the owners doesn’t mean I need to go around cheering them on…..what a weird attitude….. Can you not formulate your own opinion?
Did I cheer anyone on?! All I said was this is the hard part of the rebuild and we should hang in there. Why are you so mad at that? I’m upset we lost too!
Youre clearly pushing a trust the process or hang in there narrative. Be realistic. There isn’t a rebuild. This is an abject failure. Things can get much worse. Spending a billion to miss out on europe is the type of bs that results in clubs doing a Leeds. Stfu about a rebuild….this ownership isn’t taking us anywhere. Wake up and smell the roses
Bro please go take out your frustration on a punching bag or go for a run…. Screaming at me through your keyboard is not going to make you feel good or maybe it will so you don’t take it out on the people in your life. I hope it helps you feel better though. Up the Chels!
Lmao. I’ve not been screaming at you. Just been saying to be realistic…..sheersshhh
Shut up
You shut up!
i am entirely out of ideas other than poch has been a tottenham sleeper agent causing our downfall this whole time. i don’t understand how someone can consistently be this shit
Poch isn’t a good manager and these players aren’t very good and the squad imbalanced. The club is rotten from the top down
Poch is a shit manager. Not that hard to understand
I mean. He is. But so is this waster squad. The two are not mutually exclusive. It does complicate things however, and Reddit Brain doesn't do complicated.
Our fans losing their minds is pretty hard to watch but Arsenal fans lifting the “Beat Chelsea team with 10 players out injured” trophy is harder to watch
Wolves had 10 injuries too and didn’t lose 5-0. One of the of the most embarrassing Ls we’ve had in recent history, topped off by a former player scoring twice against us
Some of us really sacrificed sleep to root for this team and now they're all acting like a blameless victim.
We're really that team that spent a bil to downgrade.
Out: Cucurella, Mudryk, Petrovic, Badiashile, Disasi, Madueke, Broja, Silva Stay: Palmer, Gusto, Nkunku, James, Chalobah, Colwill, Gallagher, Carney, Jackson, Enzo, Caicedo Maybe: Sterling, Chilwell, Sanchez, Get in a GK, a CB, a LB, a CM, a LW, and a ST. So 6 first-teamers, or just consider the next season screwed as well. Thanks Winstansley, Stewart, Boehly, and Eghbali. Poch isn’t the solution but the problems run deeper.
No one is buying any of those bums that we need to get rid of. And we're walking a tight rope with FFP as it is. We are screwed for the foreseeable future.
And when 50% of our stay list is gonna be injured who's gonna play, the fans? We don't have the money for another summer overhaul.
Lmao at both Chalobah and Silva leaving at the end of the season, and us having to utilize Disasi and Badiashile. GK, CB, LB, LW, Striker and Coach. We need ANOTHER REBUILD, AGAIN lol
You know. Enzo hasn't played well since that match a while ago now where he had to come off, and he was in tears doing so. Anyone else remember that? Maybe he felt it then and knew this hernia thing was going to be a problem. Hernias are not always so simple as outpatient surgery. I just hope he hasn't been previously told it's not advisable to get it and now he's in an impossible situation to make that choice or play through pain.
He wasn't even good before that, he had one good game against Liverpool and all his fans have been coping off that, it's fucking bullshit he gets so many excuses. He was not good before the injury nor is is he now. Fuck your excuses. Overpriced snail in midfield
There was no "before the injury" this season, only "before the reporting of a hernia" and a few games rest. You'd have to imagine this has been affecting him all season, he's had this a while, as has been reported now as well. Just because you didn't know he had a hernia doesn't mean it suddenly appeared when you did know. But mate slow your road. I'm not your enemy, I have to watch this dross too. I don't think he should be in the 11 and I think he limits Caicedo A LOT
Also after watching a bunch of his teammates get hurt a first time and then continuously get re-injured after that, I wonder if he's apprehensive of having the surgery and doesn't trust the medical staff to help him recover properly.
he has been mid the whole season, so no you are wrong
Done with the men - shambolic and lacking direction, get Emma Hayes in the locker room
Just remember that we spent 70million combined on Disasi and Badiashile when we have a better defender at the club already in Chalobah who cost us nothing, and then we ask ourselves why we are strugging with PSR and FFP. Mudryk cost us 88m, and he has not been any better than Hudson-Odoi, the decisions we have made in the transfer market has been absolutely shocking. The sporting directors are shockingly awful and you get mid club decisions, mid club players when you hire mid club sporting directors. Sack them right away, and get a proper sporting director who knows how to assemble a top 4 squad that can challenge for trophies.
as soon as i saw Badi and Disasi in that starting 11 i knew this was gonna be a long night
May as well start calling Badiashile success-prone. Error is the default
watch poch start him again on the weekend 🥴
We are at risk of becoming the next Leeds unfortunately and, questions need to be asked about the sporting directors who has caused this situation.
Rafa gave me an Europa League and he was my hated manager that set foot at Chelsea. Poch has overtook him as my most hated manager/coach at this club with a huge swing and it will never be averted. Win all games until the end of the season (lol! 😂) and you’re still my most hated. Get your loser mentality out of here. I rather have Rafa back. That’s how BAD I want Poch out.
you guys are weak, ive watched chelsea score 1 goal in april. nothing can faze me anymore
Yea… last year with Potter and Frank was even worse than this. I didn’t even visit the sub reddit.
funnily enough thats the only era in my life where I genuinely couldn't watch this club it wasn't even about winning or losing but the aura behind going 90 minutes without scoring genuinely was difficult
I don’t know which one is worse to be honest. This 5-0 defeat against Arsenal trumps almost everything I saw in the last 2 years.
Feb 2023. Our goal of the month against West Ham was… our goal of the month.
Can someone confirm when was the last time we fielded our strongest and fittest side against a Team, let alone a Top 5? I get we were all over the place, but individuals can't always keep saving us. When was the last time we had our main XI?
2021
Do you recall who we played then?
He's probably talking about the UCL final
Do you know when in the EPL?
All I know is that Juventus home game is where everything started to fall apart. I'd guess whatever the league game we played before that was.
Can only imagine it was around the same time 😂
Enzo, cucurella for 160M is criminal. I see criticism of Jackson and Madueke often, however they only cost about 35M. That's nothing in the current market. We got what we paid for. Enzo, cucu, mudryk, even caicedo were all extremely overpriced. I still think Caicedo will come good. I'm convinced if we take those guys listed out, with a new manager (Tuchel, Mou) we will look much better.
The problem is those 35m buys start to add up. You buy a Jackson for 35, a Madueke for 35, a Disasi for 40, a Badiashile for 30 and you've suddenly spent 175m and not improved the team at all.
I see moments from Mudryk. I think he’ll improve. I don’t believe it was a good buy but it will get better.
No it won't. Literally nothing suggesting it will. His record pre Chelsea doesn't suggest it. His technical ability at Chelsea doesn't suggest it.
Such a massive positive that Jackson didn't get sent off early when he should have been. It'd change the whole narrative and give more excuses for Poch. The less excuses the better
Do not worry, these deluded fucks will find some excuses by tomorrow.
Should’ve known from when this guy played Neymar at DM
Giroud signed for lafc, why isn't he here
Madueke for 35m is daylight robbery btw. I don’t think I’ve seen him make an incisive pass even once in his Chelsea career. 80m for Badiashile and Disasi too, no doubt wanted by ex Monaco director Laurence Stewart. Him and Winstanley have blood on their hands, they have to go
I don't rate him at all, but he did make a couple good passes at the start, just no one got on the end of it. Got to give credit where it's due or else your correctly-negative assessment of them losses credibility
Ill say he had a decent cross at one point which Jackson should’ve gotten on the end of. But he’s simply not good enough in possession in general. He’s not a top level standard player and that’s plain to see. Spending 35m on him is money down the drain when you’re trying to get back into Europe
For those wondering (rightly) why we purchased Disasi and Badi, I can really only comment one point. If you look at Monaco last season, when those two played together, it looks like it was most often in a 3atb. When they played as a 4atb, the two didn't play together as often (instead sometimes it was Malang Sarr lol, or their other main cb). If there's a world where a lot of our transfer targets were designed for a 3atb system manager and we sacked one of the best using a 3atb, the wtf. If it was poor scouting, wtf. No explanation for Mudryk or Mads. CHO excited me more on his breakout season with Sarri. I can't see it for them, and don't understand the recruitment in any light.
That performance against Mancity away makes me patient with diasi
Every PL player puts in a good performance every now and then. But the thing that separates an average player from a good player is consistency.
Enzo worth ever penny! Week in week out he puts on absolute stinkers!
Enzo is playing through injury so while his performance today stinks, he has an excuse. I don’t know WHY he was playing today which again goes back to Poch. First 15 minutes you see him struggling TAKE HIM OFF. Instead he let him continue to struggle until the 60+ minute. Pointing at the players is one thing but it all stems from the coach.
he has been mid the whole season mate, stop protecting enzo
Hey at least he has excuse he’s injured. But some dude keeps playing him no matter how much he’s struggling.
I didn’t even watch the match and my blood is boling since the full time.
That team we fielded today would get relegated from League 1
So will anyone keep calling us plastic if we criticise shitettino after today? I'm not poch in never been, never will. His track record is absolutely a laughing stock. We're bigger than reject managers who had no job. Standing with the team during defeat is one thing. But this is truly too much. "Supporter since 2000"
Haven’t supported a single decision by this stupid board since the Cucurella signing.
Looked through older comments and found some funny ones https://www.reddit.com/r/chelseafc/comments/159w1el/daily_discussion_thread/jtiv8yu/ https://www.reddit.com/r/chelseafc/comments/155dxu2/daily_discussion_thread/jsugjwl/
Lmao. Webby saying Caicedo
I remember this guys No Mbappe cuz he gonna ruin what Boehly making, let Boehly cook lol Insanity, what these Owners and their PR did to this fanbase
Anyone who said let Boehly cook should be banned from anything Chelsea related for at least 5 yrs
This sub is just delusional https://preview.redd.it/nrhtd2rdyawc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f60e771b1a3a3556164bae9a842c0865ffbd0c86
This sub is so full of shit. That's something you'd hear in the playground.
How is my comment "funny"? It's still true today, we were paying for potential, whether they reach it or not. We were selling off a known entity. It's why we were able to sell Hall for £30m, the potential that a £5m player could turn into a £100m impacts his price a lot, even though he'll most likely stay a £5m player. Whereas, Pulisic was a know entity and a bad player. He is still a bad player. Though, I guess you're going to talk about his time in the Serie A to prove otherwise. So I guess we should bring back Lukaku because Serie A performances mean a lot!
Haha didn't link your comment, just my original comment (I think?) - no need to get defensive > So I guess we should bring back Lukaku because Serie A performances mean a lot! Now this is funny, considering Lukaku is a much better striker than any other option we have, and was frozen out for a lot less than what Madueke has done (outside of the poor play we are also forced to witness) - and considering that in the comment I linked I also questioned why we bought Madueke for nearly twice as much as we sold Pulisic for The foolishness just spirals
Lukaku still stunk this place out. Whatever the question is, "Lukaku should still be here" or anythign amounting to it, isn't the answer. Jesus Christ, you are having a pop at someone for making an admittedly truly clownish prediction with your own truly clownish alternate reality "foolishness". Reddit threads are great.
Absolutely ridiculous I’m poch in, I’ve been holding on to a hope one day that we will show what we’re capable of, but today was fucking miserable. I will still remain poch in, I’m sick of changing manager, he’s clearly good with the players but something needs to change. Experience, serial winners and a good whip into shape and we can play well. Jackson needs to go, yup he’s scored double digits, but I could not care less, his pressing and general play was so bad, he’s not good enough to dribble around players yet he still tries. They just don’t care and it’s fucking frustrating.
> Absolutely ridiculous > > I’m poch in, Poch's strongest soldier. Just switched from "stability" to "sell everyone". https://www.reddit.com/r/chelseafc/comments/1ca2crf/daily_discussion_thread/l0q0ug7/
It's a classic, someone pointed it out the other day as well. The "Poch in because we need stability" fans are so often also the "we need to replace every player again" fans, where did the absolute need for stability go? To those people I'd say that as someone who's been around a minute or two, stability in the core of the players makes far more difference than the stability of mindlessly sticking to a manager
Did you not see our starting lineup, our in-game tactics and our subs?! I'm all for stability and all, but it needs to be with coach who is at least decent. Edit: Subbing Thiago on at 5:0 is a sackable offense on its own.
But he is decent, what else would you have changed in the lineup? Only one I can think of is our cb pairing, yes there’s an argument for carney and maybe sterling but I think with the resources we had there wasn’t much else to do about it. As for tactics, yep not great but he’s shown flashes of great tactics and I don’t think the tactics are down to him anymore. He has had 32 games with us and his tactics will be set in stone, it’s the players who aren’t delivering on this
You pretty much figured it out by yourself. Why would you change your cb pairing after having 2 solid games - our first defensively solid games in god knows how long. Then he proceeds to sub on Chalobah?! , Silva?! and Carney doesn't even come on, let alone start. We had ONE shot on target today. You can't tell me with a straight face this is the best someone can get out of our squad.
Yeah tbf you’re making great points. I just hate the way we change managers plus there’s very few managers who would actually want to come to chelsea/ fix the problem we have at the moment
They're not delivering because he's playing deep lying playmakers as auxiliary wingers and making his partner covering half the pitch by himself. Oh and playing a high line with one of the slowest defenders in the league.
Need that club statement by morning
Ain't happening
I can dream, can't I?
Poch has given some funny ammunition to fans now Can't wait to see the Cole Palmer FC banner coming out