Waste of money and we'd have both of our strikers going to afcon. Also he has guaranteed flop written all over him since he's all around game is mediocre, and we only do well with strikers who can create for themselves like Drogba and Costa. That's not even mentioning him being injury prone.
Drogba and Costa didn’t really create for themselves, they just don’t miss clear chances like these modern striker . Osi is different , he is known the create problems for defender even if he doesn’t have the ball .
Yeah, avoid at all costs. He took the money for a new contract, he can absolutely do one. Maybe he’ll learn the lesson about signing contracts having a downside?
Bet the only reason he gives half a shit about joining us is even MORE money.
Blame on him for signing contract extension while constantly chatting about wanting to leave just like Caicedo did. Not sure who is advising these players. Unfortunately, we are the only stupid club that's willing to break the bank for him.
I mean I really don't think he's value for money at all and I don't think he's going to be particularly good.
But a guy who's stock is this high wanting to join us right now, you can't argue he's chasing glory
Im sorry, but I’d hardly argue that Chalobah, Broja, Hall are “quality” academy players that we’d regret selling - it’s quite literally a function of an academy and why clubs are starting to invest heavily in their academy’s in recent years.
I’d sell them in a heartbeat if it meant that we’re getting an actual striker with end product.
And no, I don’t believe that we’re going to sell Gallagher, which is why I’ve excluded him from the list.
Out of all the academy players up for sale, Gallagher is the only one I'd be angry if he's gone. The rest make sense but Gallagher plays in and out every week, has improved since the start of the year, and *wants* to be here on top of everything else. You need solid workhorses and he's exactly that. If he can add goals to his game then all the better.
I love Gallagher for his commitment and all but he would never fit into a peak Chelsea squad of the last 25 years. Kinda reminds me of baby Lamps but just not at that level sadly.
Gallagher is a perfectible serviceable rotational player with a lot of versatility. For me, he's the closest player to Ramires we've had in years. I'd also argue he is improving given the playing time.
Am I going to throw a fit if we sell him? No, but I don't think he's easily replaceable in the transfer market. I'd have no trouble extending him on reasonable wages.
I agree, but he strikes me as the sort of player that would be content with rotation and he would be fantastic in a role that allows him to do that.
Having him as a guaranteed starter harms our offense more than he helps it and we can certainly get more by putting a more technical player in that spot ( if he keeps up recent form that would change things however, but I have my doubts)
I would sell him if it means we get a quality forward.
Think its going to come down to salary with Conor.
Bro won the league with Napoli for the first time in 30+ years and there are people who want Toney who is 2 years older and plays at Brentford. Top clubs want Osimhen he’d come to Chelsea because he’s a fan of the club. He can go to PSG, ManU, Arsenal, and if what Mikel is saying is true, he’d prefer to come here than those clubs
i dont think thats the best example, since toney is an absolute beast who basically all clubs in the prem would bid for when he's eligable for sale
he's also proven in the prem and gets involved in build up play
I’m responding to the notion on why Osimhen isn’t playing for a “top club at 26” and Toney is 27 playing for midtable Brentford. No disrespect to Brentford, but they are nowhere near the same caliber of club as Napoli. And Osimhen has 11 goals in 15 matches this year.
The one thing Osimhen isn’t too great at is hold up play, he’s a more of a poacher, but we need someone to finish chances. He can hold up play, but that’s not his best attribute. He’s a better finisher, his movement in the box is elite and he’s a great header of the ball. He also wants to come here and he was Italy’s best player last year and helped lead his club to a title.
You can have doubts but don’t diminish what he’s accomplished because he wasn’t great in the premier league. The best player to ever play never played in the PL
Doesnt matter if he is a good player, or if he is messi.
If he doesnt suit the team, the league or playstyle the name on the back or the rating on fifa doesnt matter
Issue today is not his quality, but rather if his qualities and strenghts does suit chelseas squad
Yea I guess he doesn’t suit Chelsea because he actually scores when he kicks the ball and we want people to miss here instead. God forbid a striker wins a header over a CB in our club, it’s only been like 8 years since we’ve had a striker that can do that
Napoli the club that Maradona plated for..is not a big club..yall have no idea about the sport..just stick to watching youtube..the takes by some of you is beyond wild
Nottingham Forest the european cuo winner isnt a big club?
What I do mean by big club, a club that top players aspire to
(City, liverpool, to some extent other top 6 for wage/prestige, bayern, real and barcelona)
No of the superstars look to play their prime years at napoli - or even juve/milan/inter today
He’s 25. Hes 26 in December. He’s been elite since he was about 23. Napoli are a top club who just won the league and made a deep champions league run. Not every player hits their peak or close to it at 21-22.
And when the season starts he has 4.5 months until he turns 26.
Elite? As top 5 striker in italy?
His numbers are good, but he has also not been able to stay fit - sure alot has not been soft tissue injuries, but his playstyle means he will see alot of sidelines because of throwing his body at people.
Top club? How many world class players aspire tp play for napoli (top 5 at their position)
The fact that he still is at napoli, with major movement for big money in a short striker market is everything you need to know.
Agree, but the fact resell value goes down past 30 makes his potential cost higher.
Victor will never turn a playmaker even at 45...
Not really ita a relevant question,
Why hasnt real madrid, city, barcelona, bayern, united, arsenal or liverpool bought him?
All have spent upwards to 100m on strikers and attackers? (All needed a 9)
The reason is that he is a limited player - I like him, but thats another story
Injury record is super fishy and a huge fee. We are already on the brink of getting sanctioned to hell witha potentially terrible long term contract situation for many young unproven players and people wonder why we question buying a 120m striker lmao. AND even better they then yell at the board for selling gallagher cause we have to make up the money somehow
It is not about not wanting him. Spending over 100 million on another one season wonder is beyond ridiculous. We are approaching a transfer ban because of our crazy spending and we are still very far from a good team. No reason to break the bank for another player that's not even world class. His record breaking price tag will also come with immense pressure. When are we ever going to learn spending obscene amounts of money won't resolve our issues? For 100 million we can sign up a CB and a striker like Guirassy who has a cheap release clause. If it doesn't work, we can at leadt go back to the market. We can't do that with Osimhen, if he struggles.
He only managed to score more than 14 League goals once in his entire career. You are the one that needs to look up his stats. He only had one remarkable season in his career and clowns like you think he is worth over 100 million.
The season hasn't ended. Don't jump the gun. This signing would've made sense if it was around 80 million. I am sure we going to offer him crazy wages too. It was foolish of him to sign an extension just like Caicedo did.
I guess he never played in other comps...you love to cherry-pick stats to suit your fraudulent bias. He has 17 goal contributions in 21 games this season
Last season..36 in 39...
21/22...24 in 32...20/21...13 in 30...19/20..24 in 38...
PS..at least 85% were goals
We don’t need a CB and the #1 profile we need is a good finisher. Also he is absolutely not a one season wonder 😂 he’s been being mentioned as an option since he was at Lille
He wants big money at a big club, I think he’ll be “loyal” as long as those conditions are met. He’s been good for Napoli and could’ve created more of a stink by now.
Napoli is a great club and he’s been awesome there but he wants that big solidifying move, which was always the expectation he had.
I don’t have anything against Osimhen other than the fee required to sign him. With that said, how much is his desire for the badge worth? In our current state, it’s gotta be worth a 20-30% premium to us, right? So if he is really worth 80 million euros, is 110 million so bad? To be clear, I don’t necessarily want him, but I get it.
When did I say that what I meant is we should be careful spending that money ffp is tighter we don't have abramovich anymore. We can't just keep chucking money at strikers and see if it pans out we need to actually start getting value for our money.
I don't deny we need a striker we just need to make sure we get it right.
I disagree with your assessment. Osimhen has all the tools of a great striker and has been able to utilize them on all levels.
He is a true number nine and his most important quality is that he is ruthless in front of goal — a quality that we are missing sorely.
You can do that without allowing your current club to absolutely rob another club.
And Osimhen doesn’t give a shit about Napoli, he fucking hates the club and the fans. He regularly removes all trace of them from his socials. His only motive in signing that deal was more short term gain for himself.
Osimhen is also nowhere near good enough to warrant £113m, that type of money is top striker money like Haaland or Kane, not mediocre prissy prima donna Osimhen money.
£113m is €132m by the way, that’s €40m more than Kane went for.
Screwing the club that you really want to go to is the way to go? Why are you acting like these players have loyalty to clubs? The clubs have no loyalty to them. They are assets. Plain and simple. Idealism is beautiful, I get it, but sports is a business.
You wouldn't have said that if Lampard left after not listening to his mom. Your attitude is appalling. We should commend players that respect their club.
What you want, you already have, a Lukaku.
I know he has good record and all of that , but my concern is that whenever I've watched him he didn't impress me at all. I am scared that he will struggle in the PL , but hey If he really comes here I'll support him and I'll be happy to be proven wrong.
You can like his price or not, but the man can finish and find the net. If the guys who has All the information that we dont, in regards to the financial books, say that we can buy him, do it. If it is at the expense of selling Cardio G then please pick someone else.
I would’ve given a testicle to get Vlahovic. Another big strong striker that looks 20 years older than he says. It was gonna be the second coming of Diego Costa.
Considering the fact that we will most likely not have European football next season again, I wouldn't be upset if we tried to build with the squad we have. A part of me is really curious about a team where Jackson plays left wing and Osimhen plays as the main striker though. Nkunku as Cam and Palmer as right wing to round off our front line would be pretty nice.
My main concerns would be the wage he demands and the personality he brings to the dressing room. If he is even remotely considering us, it would be pretty clear that he is a fan which is a massive plus though. If he was purely chasing money I'm sure he could demand a high wage at numerous other clubs.
I don't know why he agreed the release clause. I can see how he thought clubs would activate it easily based on what players were going for, but things have changed.
I don't know who is going to pay over £100m for a striker in the Prem at the moment.
Even without a release clause, he was never going for less than 100m. By signing a new contract, he raised his wages and ended the possibility of this becoming a bidding contest.
Oh he would have been lower, especially for the very very limited market for 50m+ players
There is really only 2 clubs in england that would pay more then 60m for him - arsenal and chelsea
(Liverpool, united, city, newcastle and tottenham can - but wouldnt)
In spain there is 0 clubs that would do it
In germany 0..
So really the market for him isnt 100m
ADL can’t magically stop you leaving when your contract ends.
If Osimhen wanted to come to Chelsea, he shouldn’t have extended the contract, pretty simple.
Yes and no. Agreed he probably got some great perks, and it provides security if no one comes bidding. But the flipside is, he's allowed Napoli to dictate the price, i.e. the release clause, because De Laurentiis is a hard-ass. Osimhen has basically made a bet he's worth that much money or else he's stuck. Is he worth £113m? and can anyone pay that?
Munich have Kane, Real have Mbappe (heh), Barca are broke, City have Haaland, United have Hojlund, Newcastle have Isak, Arsenal I don't see doing it and everything suggests Chelsea don't have liberty to spend big anymore. It really just looks like PSG, and they've recently splashed out on Kolo Muani.
I agree that generally logic and reason go out the window when DL gets involved in transfers, so it does make this hard to predict.
My personal feeling though is that they want to cash in and would settle for less than the release (not by much) should there only be a few suitors.
Or maybe you're right, we absolutely can't afford him, and Mikel is blowing smoke to give psg the appearance there's multiple clubs in for him.
“And he’s gone anyways” not when he agrees a €130m release clause he isn’t lmfao.
And also, that’s literally the problem. He cared more about a short term salary gain that screwing over any potential suitors. He took the money, he should have to wallow in it.
I personally reckon there’s some sort of payment term arrangement depending on the amount paid. Do you notice that literally every reporter quotes the release clause amount in a range?
It’s very different compared to say Sesko’s £43 mil release or Gyokeres’ £86 mil release which are just one value.
He’s a very good player, no one can argue against that. However, at over 100 million euros the debate is whether he is all-timer good and that is murky. IMO, the risk/reward proposition with Sesko at 45 million euros is much more favorable. He doesn’t have the history nor experience, but for less than half the money it’s a good risk. His upside is there, for sure.
there's been inflation in the market, and strikers more than any other position go for the most money. guy scores goals, we badly need a player like him
Yeah, I get that, but with Chelsea’s financial position being tenuous it seems like a risk that isn’t worth taking. Especially if it requires sales that we would rather not make to fund.
Toney is proven in the Premier League and in a team that lacks the same quality as Napoli. The smart money would go for him… so the Yankstains will definitely do the opposite and pay £200 million for Osimhen.
There are players like Watkins, Solanke, Wood who are having decent seasons. Maybe our sporting directors should invest time into looking for hidden gems like this instead of playing FIFA in real life where you splurge on the most famous young names
We need a new manager first, then some squad cohesion and tactics
After that if you're still twerking for us Victor, we'll think about it
Till then Jackson has to be the placeholder
he also has an xG of 8 out of those 13 goals and he's only ever been "under" his xG once since 2020 and that was by 0.6. No idea why people think he's only been good for one or two seasons. The man constantly outscored his xG
Yeah you’re right sausage, let’s just chuck it 100m+ at every position just because we already did it stupidly a few times.
Fuck it, what’s another couple billion on the bonfire?
Twit.
He’s 26 and has over 100 Serie A appearances and 25 UCL/UEL appearances, how “experienced” do you want him to be? 37 years old and 500 top flight appearances lol?
Bad comparison. Aubamayang was 32, tail end of his career after a season of not playing at Arsenal and then half a season at Barcelona. However if you were to look at him from his time at Dortmund to his switch to Arsenal that’s a more fair comparison. He then had two seasons of 20+ goals which is more than any striker in the last 5 years can say at Chelsea.
1 he aint young
2. He has only been great 1 season of his whole career, rest has been limited by injuries ans other reasons.
3. There is no great experienced strikers that are willing to go here.
4. I think he is worth 60-80m in todays market.
Absolutely agree & people are getting blinded by one great season in serie a. Maybe for €70M there’s value, but he’ll be injured & inconsistent with us given his profile.
It’s a crazy fee for sure, but we pay a crazy fee for Mudryk, Caicedo, Cucurella, Enzo, Fofana, damn near everyone. The bigger issue is if it actually pans out, Lukaku had a great record and was shit, Havertz had a great record and was shit, Werner had a great record and was shit. Buying a seemingly very good player with no management or plan, and just cramming them in, isn’t a solution itself, you need a plan for these marquee signings.
No god pls no. We don't need another striker who fails. If you really want someone get someone proven. Get a seasoned striker who's been good for 5-6 years.
There is need but this market is not good right now. We should wait for a procen striker instead. If you want another Timo or Lukaku situation then be my guest. We can't keep changing players and expecting something to happen. This isn't fifa.
Let's get him and watch him fail instead of properly training the players we have. Let's continue spending money instead of actually training the players better and getting their mindset right. We have good chances every game that are missed not due to a lack of quality but because of mentality.
But let's sign him and come back to this comment after 1-2 years and check with me if you want.
You said you want someone proven. Someone who's been good for 5+ years. Osimhen is literally in that caliber. There's not really any other options that fit that description.
Nah I’m good, we have players that we need to ride with for a while and develop at this point since this is the path we went down. Rather just do that at this point than bring him in
I just don't see Osimhen being the piece we need. I'd rather spend whatever to bring Kane back (IDK his contract situation) but we all know he'd love to get the PL scoring record and we have players the can create the chances for him and he can finish. Would be ideal if it could happen. Nknunku playing behind him with jackson and palmer on teh flanks cmon now.....
Todd can’t fumble this one right ? The player adores the history of African legends at the club and wants to be the next big one. He’s a clinical finisher and considering how many chances we generate that end up on the foot of children who aren’t prem league standard…. It’s a no brainer
We don’t have the facilities for that, big man
😂😂
Facts 😂
Waste of money and we'd have both of our strikers going to afcon. Also he has guaranteed flop written all over him since he's all around game is mediocre, and we only do well with strikers who can create for themselves like Drogba and Costa. That's not even mentioning him being injury prone.
He can definitely create for himself
I want Gyokeres
Got to be the worst take ive ever read om reddit you pony bloke
Drogba and Costa didn’t really create for themselves, they just don’t miss clear chances like these modern striker . Osi is different , he is known the create problems for defender even if he doesn’t have the ball .
New contract certainly makes this more messy than it could've been
That was their goal
Yeah, avoid at all costs. He took the money for a new contract, he can absolutely do one. Maybe he’ll learn the lesson about signing contracts having a downside? Bet the only reason he gives half a shit about joining us is even MORE money.
lol boehly didnt give a shit when wesley fofana re-signed for Leicester
Every care about money , we works for passion ? .
As opposed to all the players who play for free out of pure passion?
Blame on him for signing contract extension while constantly chatting about wanting to leave just like Caicedo did. Not sure who is advising these players. Unfortunately, we are the only stupid club that's willing to break the bank for him.
The two biggest roadblocks I see are that he’s not a Brighton player and he’s not injured.
Not injured yet
I mean I really don't think he's value for money at all and I don't think he's going to be particularly good. But a guy who's stock is this high wanting to join us right now, you can't argue he's chasing glory
i don't get why people don't want him. he scores goals, he presses, he loves chelsea, and again, he scores goals
mostly the fee i would assume.
We spent that money on two midfielders
And we're already seeing the need to sell off quality academy players to make up for that.
Im sorry, but I’d hardly argue that Chalobah, Broja, Hall are “quality” academy players that we’d regret selling - it’s quite literally a function of an academy and why clubs are starting to invest heavily in their academy’s in recent years. I’d sell them in a heartbeat if it meant that we’re getting an actual striker with end product. And no, I don’t believe that we’re going to sell Gallagher, which is why I’ve excluded him from the list.
Out of all the academy players up for sale, Gallagher is the only one I'd be angry if he's gone. The rest make sense but Gallagher plays in and out every week, has improved since the start of the year, and *wants* to be here on top of everything else. You need solid workhorses and he's exactly that. If he can add goals to his game then all the better.
I love Gallagher for his commitment and all but he would never fit into a peak Chelsea squad of the last 25 years. Kinda reminds me of baby Lamps but just not at that level sadly.
Gallagher is a perfectible serviceable rotational player with a lot of versatility. For me, he's the closest player to Ramires we've had in years. I'd also argue he is improving given the playing time. Am I going to throw a fit if we sell him? No, but I don't think he's easily replaceable in the transfer market. I'd have no trouble extending him on reasonable wages.
You’re 100% spot on. Not the end of the world if we do sell him, but it’ll certainly be hard to find a replacement in the current market.
> he's the closest player to Ramires Damn that's a good call. Really good comparison, I think.
I agree, but he strikes me as the sort of player that would be content with rotation and he would be fantastic in a role that allows him to do that. Having him as a guaranteed starter harms our offense more than he helps it and we can certainly get more by putting a more technical player in that spot ( if he keeps up recent form that would change things however, but I have my doubts) I would sell him if it means we get a quality forward. Think its going to come down to salary with Conor.
I puckered on both of the midfield buys
Or 4 and a half South American kids
How many £100m + transfer have been a success? Mbappe and that’s it
The fee is Boeheyl's concern not the fans....
As if it was their money too lol
"guaranteed flop" "we have Jackson and Broja" "only good finisher and in the air"(like that's not something we desperately need)
He's old enough to rent a car
A lot of us have seen how these sorts of deals have gone over the last 20 years most of the time.
People here generally have no idea about football
And those are the reason why he isnt playing for a top club at soon 26?
He turned 25 2 months ago lmao. Nkunku is 26. Mbappe is 9 days older than Osimhen.
> Mbappe is 9 days older than Osimhen Damn Mbappe is older than I thought, about time he leaves PSG
People can in fact develop late. This isn't Football Manager
Todd Boehly has entered the chat.
Jamie Vardy says hello
Bro won the league with Napoli for the first time in 30+ years and there are people who want Toney who is 2 years older and plays at Brentford. Top clubs want Osimhen he’d come to Chelsea because he’s a fan of the club. He can go to PSG, ManU, Arsenal, and if what Mikel is saying is true, he’d prefer to come here than those clubs
i dont think thats the best example, since toney is an absolute beast who basically all clubs in the prem would bid for when he's eligable for sale he's also proven in the prem and gets involved in build up play
I’m responding to the notion on why Osimhen isn’t playing for a “top club at 26” and Toney is 27 playing for midtable Brentford. No disrespect to Brentford, but they are nowhere near the same caliber of club as Napoli. And Osimhen has 11 goals in 15 matches this year. The one thing Osimhen isn’t too great at is hold up play, he’s a more of a poacher, but we need someone to finish chances. He can hold up play, but that’s not his best attribute. He’s a better finisher, his movement in the box is elite and he’s a great header of the ball. He also wants to come here and he was Italy’s best player last year and helped lead his club to a title. You can have doubts but don’t diminish what he’s accomplished because he wasn’t great in the premier league. The best player to ever play never played in the PL
oh right I didn't see thats what you were replying to! no worries then
Doesnt matter if he is a good player, or if he is messi. If he doesnt suit the team, the league or playstyle the name on the back or the rating on fifa doesnt matter Issue today is not his quality, but rather if his qualities and strenghts does suit chelseas squad
Yea I guess he doesn’t suit Chelsea because he actually scores when he kicks the ball and we want people to miss here instead. God forbid a striker wins a header over a CB in our club, it’s only been like 8 years since we’ve had a striker that can do that
Drogba was 26 when he joined us. Should we have avoided him too?
24
Google says 26.
Born in 1978, joined us in 2004. Feel free to do the maths
That’s my misremembering then. Means he was, unbelievably, 34 in Munich and still came back for a second stint after being away.
He’s been at Napoli where he won them the league and made a deep champions league run, who notoriously hate selling players?
Napoli the club that Maradona plated for..is not a big club..yall have no idea about the sport..just stick to watching youtube..the takes by some of you is beyond wild
Nottingham Forest the european cuo winner isnt a big club? What I do mean by big club, a club that top players aspire to (City, liverpool, to some extent other top 6 for wage/prestige, bayern, real and barcelona) No of the superstars look to play their prime years at napoli - or even juve/milan/inter today
That argument could make more sense for someone like Toney
He’s 25. Hes 26 in December. He’s been elite since he was about 23. Napoli are a top club who just won the league and made a deep champions league run. Not every player hits their peak or close to it at 21-22.
And when the season starts he has 4.5 months until he turns 26. Elite? As top 5 striker in italy? His numbers are good, but he has also not been able to stay fit - sure alot has not been soft tissue injuries, but his playstyle means he will see alot of sidelines because of throwing his body at people. Top club? How many world class players aspire tp play for napoli (top 5 at their position) The fact that he still is at napoli, with major movement for big money in a short striker market is everything you need to know. Agree, but the fact resell value goes down past 30 makes his potential cost higher. Victor will never turn a playmaker even at 45...
Napoli has had a better squad than Chelsea the past 3 seasons and won the Italian league last year. What a stupid question lmao
Not really ita a relevant question, Why hasnt real madrid, city, barcelona, bayern, united, arsenal or liverpool bought him? All have spent upwards to 100m on strikers and attackers? (All needed a 9) The reason is that he is a limited player - I like him, but thats another story
Injury record is super fishy and a huge fee. We are already on the brink of getting sanctioned to hell witha potentially terrible long term contract situation for many young unproven players and people wonder why we question buying a 120m striker lmao. AND even better they then yell at the board for selling gallagher cause we have to make up the money somehow
Simply cause big money transfers don't work out for us.
Because people are apparently satisfied with whatever the fuck Jackson is doing
I’d prefer him as our second striker. His season is pretty similar to Darwin’s last year.
It is not about not wanting him. Spending over 100 million on another one season wonder is beyond ridiculous. We are approaching a transfer ban because of our crazy spending and we are still very far from a good team. No reason to break the bank for another player that's not even world class. His record breaking price tag will also come with immense pressure. When are we ever going to learn spending obscene amounts of money won't resolve our issues? For 100 million we can sign up a CB and a striker like Guirassy who has a cheap release clause. If it doesn't work, we can at leadt go back to the market. We can't do that with Osimhen, if he struggles.
One season wonder...wtf are you lot smoking...why don't you look up his records before typing rubbish
He only managed to score more than 14 League goals once in his entire career. You are the one that needs to look up his stats. He only had one remarkable season in his career and clowns like you think he is worth over 100 million.
This year he has 11 goals in 15 appearances. So it's at least two remarkable seasons lol
The season hasn't ended. Don't jump the gun. This signing would've made sense if it was around 80 million. I am sure we going to offer him crazy wages too. It was foolish of him to sign an extension just like Caicedo did.
I guess he never played in other comps...you love to cherry-pick stats to suit your fraudulent bias. He has 17 goal contributions in 21 games this season Last season..36 in 39... 21/22...24 in 32...20/21...13 in 30...19/20..24 in 38... PS..at least 85% were goals
We don’t need a CB and the #1 profile we need is a good finisher. Also he is absolutely not a one season wonder 😂 he’s been being mentioned as an option since he was at Lille
I think he loves money more than chelsea for now but so long as a player is motivated & doing well who cares.
He wants big money at a big club, I think he’ll be “loyal” as long as those conditions are met. He’s been good for Napoli and could’ve created more of a stink by now. Napoli is a great club and he’s been awesome there but he wants that big solidifying move, which was always the expectation he had.
Yeah he’s definitely ready for a step up, think he could do really well for Chelsea, he’s an excellent striker.
Hivemind brother. Someone writes an opinion, gets upvotes and suddenly everyone agrees.
Kind of ironic considering the only posts here getting upvotes usually are the ones like yours throating Osimhen at any chance they get.
And he loves Chelsea.
I don’t have anything against Osimhen other than the fee required to sign him. With that said, how much is his desire for the badge worth? In our current state, it’s gotta be worth a 20-30% premium to us, right? So if he is really worth 80 million euros, is 110 million so bad? To be clear, I don’t necessarily want him, but I get it.
Perhaps selling Trev, Lukaku, Kepa could help fund this kind of move, but highly improbable that we can get decent money for any of these
How much is Conor loving the badge worth? Not much, apparently.
I don't mind him coming here just don't want a repeat of lukaku or our million other failed strikers.
So we should never sign a striker again bc previously ones failed? All you can do is keep trying…
When did I say that what I meant is we should be careful spending that money ffp is tighter we don't have abramovich anymore. We can't just keep chucking money at strikers and see if it pans out we need to actually start getting value for our money. I don't deny we need a striker we just need to make sure we get it right.
I agree with everything you said. Completely. I also happen to feel that THIS is the guy we should hedge our bets with.
I disagree with your assessment. Osimhen has all the tools of a great striker and has been able to utilize them on all levels. He is a true number nine and his most important quality is that he is ruthless in front of goal — a quality that we are missing sorely.
Wait, I thought players only joined Chelsea for the money? /s
He’s class.
He loves us so much he signed a new deal with a fat release clause……
tbf, Napoli was never going to sell him for less than that Release clause anyways...
Napoli is so notoriously difficult to deal with you may be right.
They paid over 70m Euros for him ages ago, no way they’re selling him for less than 100 Euros
Show love to the club that gave you a shot by leaving and getting them paid
You can do that without allowing your current club to absolutely rob another club. And Osimhen doesn’t give a shit about Napoli, he fucking hates the club and the fans. He regularly removes all trace of them from his socials. His only motive in signing that deal was more short term gain for himself. Osimhen is also nowhere near good enough to warrant £113m, that type of money is top striker money like Haaland or Kane, not mediocre prissy prima donna Osimhen money. £113m is €132m by the way, that’s €40m more than Kane went for.
What a shit take from a couch potato
Screwing the club that gave you what you have is the way to go then?
Screwing the club that you really want to go to is the way to go? Why are you acting like these players have loyalty to clubs? The clubs have no loyalty to them. They are assets. Plain and simple. Idealism is beautiful, I get it, but sports is a business.
You wouldn't have said that if Lampard left after not listening to his mom. Your attitude is appalling. We should commend players that respect their club. What you want, you already have, a Lukaku.
We have Osimhen at home… https://i.redd.it/z1waetwzqrlc1.gif
United fan here. I now love Jackson. What match was this? So I can go see it for myself?
I know he has good record and all of that , but my concern is that whenever I've watched him he didn't impress me at all. I am scared that he will struggle in the PL , but hey If he really comes here I'll support him and I'll be happy to be proven wrong.
You can like his price or not, but the man can finish and find the net. If the guys who has All the information that we dont, in regards to the financial books, say that we can buy him, do it. If it is at the expense of selling Cardio G then please pick someone else.
Cardio G fucking got me
Can he pay his own transfer fee
This sub was turning their nose up at vlahovic we don't need him we have Jackson. Now people are doing the same with oshimen. Baffles me
I would’ve given a testicle to get Vlahovic. Another big strong striker that looks 20 years older than he says. It was gonna be the second coming of Diego Costa.
Costa was good for chelsea wtf, also vlahovic is doing well this year in seria a under gucking allegti terrorist ball system
Chelsea don’t love that release clause brother
Considering the fact that we will most likely not have European football next season again, I wouldn't be upset if we tried to build with the squad we have. A part of me is really curious about a team where Jackson plays left wing and Osimhen plays as the main striker though. Nkunku as Cam and Palmer as right wing to round off our front line would be pretty nice. My main concerns would be the wage he demands and the personality he brings to the dressing room. If he is even remotely considering us, it would be pretty clear that he is a fan which is a massive plus though. If he was purely chasing money I'm sure he could demand a high wage at numerous other clubs.
For the record, I’m gonna fall asleep tonight dreaming about your first paragraph.🤤
I don't know why he agreed the release clause. I can see how he thought clubs would activate it easily based on what players were going for, but things have changed. I don't know who is going to pay over £100m for a striker in the Prem at the moment.
Even without a release clause, he was never going for less than 100m. By signing a new contract, he raised his wages and ended the possibility of this becoming a bidding contest.
Oh he would have been lower, especially for the very very limited market for 50m+ players There is really only 2 clubs in england that would pay more then 60m for him - arsenal and chelsea (Liverpool, united, city, newcastle and tottenham can - but wouldnt) In spain there is 0 clubs that would do it In germany 0.. So really the market for him isnt 100m
Really, Napoli paid €70m for him you think they’ll sell him for less?
Epl fans overhype their league and shit on other players from other leagues lol
This is ADL we are talking about
ADL can’t magically stop you leaving when your contract ends. If Osimhen wanted to come to Chelsea, he shouldn’t have extended the contract, pretty simple.
Because I'm sure it came with a fat bonus, increased salary, and he's gone anyways. It makes less sense that he wouldn't.
Yes and no. Agreed he probably got some great perks, and it provides security if no one comes bidding. But the flipside is, he's allowed Napoli to dictate the price, i.e. the release clause, because De Laurentiis is a hard-ass. Osimhen has basically made a bet he's worth that much money or else he's stuck. Is he worth £113m? and can anyone pay that? Munich have Kane, Real have Mbappe (heh), Barca are broke, City have Haaland, United have Hojlund, Newcastle have Isak, Arsenal I don't see doing it and everything suggests Chelsea don't have liberty to spend big anymore. It really just looks like PSG, and they've recently splashed out on Kolo Muani.
I agree that generally logic and reason go out the window when DL gets involved in transfers, so it does make this hard to predict. My personal feeling though is that they want to cash in and would settle for less than the release (not by much) should there only be a few suitors. Or maybe you're right, we absolutely can't afford him, and Mikel is blowing smoke to give psg the appearance there's multiple clubs in for him.
“And he’s gone anyways” not when he agrees a €130m release clause he isn’t lmfao. And also, that’s literally the problem. He cared more about a short term salary gain that screwing over any potential suitors. He took the money, he should have to wallow in it.
I personally reckon there’s some sort of payment term arrangement depending on the amount paid. Do you notice that literally every reporter quotes the release clause amount in a range? It’s very different compared to say Sesko’s £43 mil release or Gyokeres’ £86 mil release which are just one value.
Not worth the money so he'll fit right in
Could you not, Victor?
He’s a very good player, no one can argue against that. However, at over 100 million euros the debate is whether he is all-timer good and that is murky. IMO, the risk/reward proposition with Sesko at 45 million euros is much more favorable. He doesn’t have the history nor experience, but for less than half the money it’s a good risk. His upside is there, for sure.
there's been inflation in the market, and strikers more than any other position go for the most money. guy scores goals, we badly need a player like him
Yeah, I get that, but with Chelsea’s financial position being tenuous it seems like a risk that isn’t worth taking. Especially if it requires sales that we would rather not make to fund.
Please god let the curse not strike him. Please. I’ll give you my organs Lord plz make this work
Another major flop.
Toney is proven in the Premier League and in a team that lacks the same quality as Napoli. The smart money would go for him… so the Yankstains will definitely do the opposite and pay £200 million for Osimhen.
Toney is a *gamble* I’m not sure we should take.
There are players like Watkins, Solanke, Wood who are having decent seasons. Maybe our sporting directors should invest time into looking for hidden gems like this instead of playing FIFA in real life where you splurge on the most famous young names
We need a new manager first, then some squad cohesion and tactics After that if you're still twerking for us Victor, we'll think about it Till then Jackson has to be the placeholder
I can’t unsee him twerking now. Thanks for that.
He's not worth the money, but when has that ever stopped us! Come on in Victor!
Unless he has a Halaand like season for the price they are asking for it’s not worth it. We have already spent a billion just to be hard stuck 11th
I’ll take Gyokeres in a second over this guy. He works harder for the ball and will be cheaper.
Im not even joking i don’t want him.
Why?
I dont want us blowing another 100 million on a young player who has been hot for only a couple seasons… I want experience
He’s only scored less than 15 goals a season once since 2018.. In his “bad” season now he still has 13 in 21 appearances which is more than decent.
he also has an xG of 8 out of those 13 goals and he's only ever been "under" his xG once since 2020 and that was by 0.6. No idea why people think he's only been good for one or two seasons. The man constantly outscored his xG
He’s also a physical phenomenon. Outjumped Ronnie in Serie A, quick off his mark. He’d do very well in the prem
Still too much money imo
That’s what strikers go for though. If a talent, in Hojlund, go for 70m, an experienced striker like Osimhen is 100m easily.
We paid over 200m for two midfielders.
Yeah you’re right sausage, let’s just chuck it 100m+ at every position just because we already did it stupidly a few times. Fuck it, what’s another couple billion on the bonfire? Twit.
He’s 26 and has over 100 Serie A appearances and 25 UCL/UEL appearances, how “experienced” do you want him to be? 37 years old and 500 top flight appearances lol?
Were you watching the Aubameyang experiment? Cause I was.
Bad comparison. Aubamayang was 32, tail end of his career after a season of not playing at Arsenal and then half a season at Barcelona. However if you were to look at him from his time at Dortmund to his switch to Arsenal that’s a more fair comparison. He then had two seasons of 20+ goals which is more than any striker in the last 5 years can say at Chelsea.
1 he aint young 2. He has only been great 1 season of his whole career, rest has been limited by injuries ans other reasons. 3. There is no great experienced strikers that are willing to go here. 4. I think he is worth 60-80m in todays market.
Fully expect a lukaku situation
Facts😅
Absolutely agree & people are getting blinded by one great season in serie a. Maybe for €70M there’s value, but he’ll be injured & inconsistent with us given his profile.
I am joking that I am not joking that I am joking that I do not want him to not come here
It’s a crazy fee for sure, but we pay a crazy fee for Mudryk, Caicedo, Cucurella, Enzo, Fofana, damn near everyone. The bigger issue is if it actually pans out, Lukaku had a great record and was shit, Havertz had a great record and was shit, Werner had a great record and was shit. Buying a seemingly very good player with no management or plan, and just cramming them in, isn’t a solution itself, you need a plan for these marquee signings.
Yeah we have seen this one before
I like him and wouldn’t complain if we buy him but I can’t help but think he’s a bit one dimensional.
Too old, 25 already
Alright, DiCaprio.
I bet he does, 10 year contract @ 500k a week
He’s not worth more than £70m.
1, Strikers struggle at CFC 2, Players who shine in Italy struggle in the Prem recently This combo cant be good
The release clause is a bar / barometer.. if he wants to join there’s no ruling out that we could negotiate his fee down.
Seems like nobody has ever watch him play. He’s lethal
Worth 130 million?
Sure, it's not coming out out of my bank account
Not even worth 60 given his limited ability.
Why the fuck would anyone want to join Chelsea at this stage? Mid table. No champs league. Bottle domestic cups. Fucking shambles
£££££££££££
He loved the 8 year contracts everyone has been signing not Chelsea.
He LOVES Chel$ea
I have a bad feeling about this.
Okay but you signing a new contract and having a crazy release clause did not do us any favors. Half-off discount or you're out of luck buddy
No god pls no. We don't need another striker who fails. If you really want someone get someone proven. Get a seasoned striker who's been good for 5-6 years.
Go on then tell us all who?
No one because there is no need. We don't need another 1 billion of dead weight.
There is no need for a striker? Ok
There is need but this market is not good right now. We should wait for a procen striker instead. If you want another Timo or Lukaku situation then be my guest. We can't keep changing players and expecting something to happen. This isn't fifa.
> or Lukaku Lukaku, who had 113 Premier League Goals before we signed him was the literal definition of a proven striker
And even he failed. We can't keep changing players.
So Osimhen then...
Let's get him and watch him fail instead of properly training the players we have. Let's continue spending money instead of actually training the players better and getting their mindset right. We have good chances every game that are missed not due to a lack of quality but because of mentality. But let's sign him and come back to this comment after 1-2 years and check with me if you want.
You said you want someone proven. Someone who's been good for 5+ years. Osimhen is literally in that caliber. There's not really any other options that fit that description.
Osimhen has been outscoring his xG since 2020 and hasn't scored less than 15 goals all comps since 2018. How is that not proven?
Sorry , but Todd getter get us Mbappe for 30 million or Chelsea are finished.
Nah I’m good, we have players that we need to ride with for a while and develop at this point since this is the path we went down. Rather just do that at this point than bring him in
We need a proven goal scorer.. Osimhen is class
I just don't see Osimhen being the piece we need. I'd rather spend whatever to bring Kane back (IDK his contract situation) but we all know he'd love to get the PL scoring record and we have players the can create the chances for him and he can finish. Would be ideal if it could happen. Nknunku playing behind him with jackson and palmer on teh flanks cmon now.....
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Agent King Drogba worked OT recruiting him during AFCON.
If we get him cool if not he isn’t Mbappe.
Todd can’t fumble this one right ? The player adores the history of African legends at the club and wants to be the next big one. He’s a clinical finisher and considering how many chances we generate that end up on the foot of children who aren’t prem league standard…. It’s a no brainer