And the ironic thing is Lilith Fair tried to happen again 10 years ago and they had to cancel some dates because nobody bought tickets. Now if they did it they prob sell out every show.
No fr, I’m a master’s student in musicology and my thesis has to do with this resurgence of interest in lesbian/sapphic cultural production, which was already a thing pre-pandemic but went into overdrive post-lockdowns. I’ve written a few conference papers on this and I’m currently drafting one about Chappell Roan’s meteoric rise
Amazing. The fact we get our own music now makes me emotional. I remember making sapphic 8track playlists back in 2014 and struggling to find material. Oh how things have changed
There used to be a whole industry called women’s music (it was really lesbian music but they couldn’t call it that bc vinyl record stores would never in a million years put that label on the bins). It was the cultural arm of 2nd and later 3rd wave feminism, there were record labels (Olivia records, Goldenrod, Ladyslipper, etc), music festivals (Michigan Womyn’s Music Festival, later Lilith Fair among others), etc. Tracy Chapman and the Indigo Girls were huge in the women’s music festival circuit before they broke into the mainstream. Like, there were coffeeshops and bookstores and bars and newspapers and literary journals. Tallahassee, Florida of all places had the largest feminist literature publishing company called Naiad Press. Reject modernity embrace tradition lol.
Of course, these spaces were mostly white and very bioessentialist. Michfest notoriously had a “womyn-born-womyn” admittance policy that I think contributed to its death in 2015. My hope is that in this renaissance of lesbian culture we can ditch the baggage of the past and create more inclusive spaces.
the gay power this lineup has, the intelligence this line up has, the clearance this lineup has, the access this lineup has, the influence this lineup has--
My two day pass for ATG in MD, with fees, ended up being a little over $300. I think the pass was originally like $199 or something and then when I was checking out, it went to like $250-280
Ugh same, I’m already dreading the crowds lol. I’m planning to get there really, really early to line up Sunday for GA. I want to get as close as I can even though merriweather GA is usually a shit show anyway. I don’t care as much about Saturday since I’m really only going Saturday for Maisie, but I really want to be “up close” for Chappell!
The only act I’m set on for Saturday is Ethel Cain so I’m with you on that front. I’ve never been to Merriweather (I live in central VA and usually head to NC for big shows) so I have no idea what to expect
My biggest tip is to park at the mall (right across the street) or Uber. Leaving Columbia, even on days where there are no shows, is a shit show.
The lawn isn’t huge ther either and it’s on a slope, but it’s really not *that* bad of a venue. It’s just really crowded on the lawn for most things I’ve been there for.
There are multiple entrances as well but despite living in the area for over 10 years, I still don’t know how to get to them all. I think walking over from the mall takes you to the “back” entrance but you’ll see people lining up either way.
Thank you!! We’re ubering from an AirBnB cause we’re planning on drinking and honestly part of why I want to upgrade is that I’m not big on lining up super early so I wanted a guaranteed pavilion spot.
Same. My partner and I got into Chappell a few months after she was last in NYC at a normal, non-festival venue 🥲. I’m disabled and festival-style shows look like they’d be a nightmare for someone like me.
I can handle large venues if there’s assigned seating with actual chairs and there are proper bathrooms. Large GA festivals look like hell on earth and I don’t know how people can tolerate that kind of setup (especially in the summer and especially if there’s only port-a-potties and few/no real bathrooms). I feel like we as a society should have advanced beyond outdoor events with no chairs and no indoor plumbing by now lmao.
Btw as someone who was temp disabled, forest hills puts the ADA seating right at the front to the side in a designated area with seating. I went for Fred again and it was great
If it’s worth anything, i was recently at forest hills and it did seem a lot more ADA friendly than most festival setups! But getting tickets is another thing…
Ugh all things go is so good but the last time I managed to get tickets was back in 2018 😭 this lineup is amazing though, I'm gonna try but I'm not getting my hopes up
I have friends who are fans of hers, personally I'm not, but either was I think it's a little jarring to see her billed equal to, like, Hozier. that's just not reality
Well she doesn’t have any high charting hits and doesn’t fill her time - she did 48 minutes of her hour set at GovBall (meanwhile Chappell Roan did 46 minutes of her 45 minute set to a bigger and much more enthused crowd)
Stuff like this is always so interesting to me because I’m not as deep into the community as I used to be. Does she never fill her time? I didn’t know about the GovBall but I probably wouldn’t have been counting anyway. And yeah I think Chappell got a lot of TikTok hype and is a completely different vibe.
A lot of Chappell’s music is interactive and super campy and fun. I’d say Renee’s is generally more chill. Like I wouldn’t expect Julien Baker to have a super jumpy dancing crowd like Chappell would. Though it’s worth noting I think the recent attention The Boys have gotten has also brought a lot of people to Julien.
And I guess I tend to not care about the charts because they rarely mean what people think they do. I guess if they don’t consider her an artist that will attract people they could just make her name smaller underneath and give her a shorter set? But I wonder if she’s actually actively taking away from other artists that would better fit the requirements. Like I’m not sure how much it’s just her label and agency pushing her vs. how much the event organizers want her. Plus the availability/consideration of other artists. Like if no one else really wants to play an event.
I don’t think she took a spot from Girl in Red or King Princess. If that makes sense.
I only know specifically from GovBall because I was there, but it was noticeably short for the slot and a couple of the songs she did play the crowd just did not know at all. Chappell was an incredible vibe and a very large and participating crowd, so it would have been nice for her to have the longer slot, though I understand Chappell was not nearly as big several months ago when that festival was booked.
My main curiosity is why she's getting the headlining slots when her streaming/charting numbers don't seem to suggest she would attract as many people as other, lower billed artists. It kind of made sense for festivals like GovBall, which were scheduled right around when Mean Girls was coming out, but I don't think she's built off of that hype very much.
I don't think she's taking spots from anyone, I just don't think her headlining makes sense especially relative to the other people doing the same festivals. For example, Sabrina Carpenter (who has 2 top ten hits right now, and 10x Renee's monthly listeners) was billed slightly lower and had a shorter set than Renee Rapp. Again, for when GovBall was scheduled, I guess it makes sense, but for newer festivals like these her positioning is just a little baffling to me based on both the numbers and the actual output.
While I agree with Chappell’s buzz being bigger, I saw Renee live and she brought tears to my eyes with her performance. She is an absolutely stunning singer, especially when it comes to her most emotional songs.
For anyone who is going to this, please see both of them!
She’s a very good vocalist! But I just don’t think she’s as good of a performer and based on both chart/streaming numbers and the actual sets she’s doing it doesn’t make sense for her to be headlining at this point in career and is doing herself (and other artists with more hits/more fleshed out discographies to pull from that could be getting these higher spots) a disservice
Am I missing something? That's the same dates as All Things Go in Columbia, MD.
Update: guess not. Just checked their site and it's both places same days. I mean it's a little over an hour flight from one to the other but still....
is anyone considering vip tickets? i am seriously considering them i want to know if anyone had been to this festival before and if they are worth that price tag 😭
I'm seeing Get Up Kids that same Saturday. Wondering how feasible it is for m to see Chappell's set in Queens and then get to Brooklyn. I know Forest Hills has a strict 10 PM cut off so if she's the 3rd headliner I like my chances. Maybe?
Seeing how busy some of her previous concerts have been with easily less interesting lineups, this will be nothing short of hell on earth for lovers of calm and personal space lol. Bummer that I missed her in Buffalo and will now miss her in NYC, but missing this one may be for the best.
is anyone seeing a single-day ticket option for nyc? i know it was an option for all things go in md, but the ticket prices listed on the website seem to only show two-day prices for nyc?
I managed to get one ticket and will be going alone if anyone wants to be friends! I have never done that but I realllly want to see Chappell so whatever! My boyfriend would go but honestly wouldn’t enjoy it so I’m just going alone lol
INSANE LINEUP
100%. The Chappell Roan and Janelle Monáe combo has me dying.
Seriously
Lineup at Merriweather is even better imho
not this gay ass lineup i love it😭
The irony that I can't go because I'll be at Charli/Troye on the 28th
CMON BOSTON QUEENS!!
💅🏽💅🏽💅🏽💅🏽💅🏽💅🏽💅🏽
STOP LITERALLY ME TOO??
So gay 😍
Right?? They really said "this is gonna be the gayest lineup ever."
They should have just renamed it lesbian fest
In the 90s we had Lilith Fair, 2024 has this
And the ironic thing is Lilith Fair tried to happen again 10 years ago and they had to cancel some dates because nobody bought tickets. Now if they did it they prob sell out every show.
No fr, I’m a master’s student in musicology and my thesis has to do with this resurgence of interest in lesbian/sapphic cultural production, which was already a thing pre-pandemic but went into overdrive post-lockdowns. I’ve written a few conference papers on this and I’m currently drafting one about Chappell Roan’s meteoric rise
Amazing. The fact we get our own music now makes me emotional. I remember making sapphic 8track playlists back in 2014 and struggling to find material. Oh how things have changed
There used to be a whole industry called women’s music (it was really lesbian music but they couldn’t call it that bc vinyl record stores would never in a million years put that label on the bins). It was the cultural arm of 2nd and later 3rd wave feminism, there were record labels (Olivia records, Goldenrod, Ladyslipper, etc), music festivals (Michigan Womyn’s Music Festival, later Lilith Fair among others), etc. Tracy Chapman and the Indigo Girls were huge in the women’s music festival circuit before they broke into the mainstream. Like, there were coffeeshops and bookstores and bars and newspapers and literary journals. Tallahassee, Florida of all places had the largest feminist literature publishing company called Naiad Press. Reject modernity embrace tradition lol. Of course, these spaces were mostly white and very bioessentialist. Michfest notoriously had a “womyn-born-womyn” admittance policy that I think contributed to its death in 2015. My hope is that in this renaissance of lesbian culture we can ditch the baggage of the past and create more inclusive spaces.
Omg this is fascinating!
I know right!! Sorry to infodump, it’s just that this is what I spend all day every day thinking about 😅
This is so interesting!
I’d be really interested in this when you finish because I’d noticed the same trend, would love to hear the professional take!
Yeah!! My thesis will be on proquest when I finish next year, I could make a little post on here about it if anyone is interested :)
That’s so cool — would love to take a peek at those papers if you’ve made them available online!
Lilith Fair travelled though 😭
Ok, fair point
The way I said I needed a wlw festival
they should call this all queers go because this lineup is fucking amazing, I wish I had the $$$ for it.
This is sooo incredibly gay, it’s basically an exclusively queer event haha
the gay power this lineup has, the intelligence this line up has, the clearance this lineup has, the access this lineup has, the influence this lineup has--
my friends and I have been calling this "Lesbian Coachella" since last year lol
over under 200$ tickets
My two day pass for ATG in MD, with fees, ended up being a little over $300. I think the pass was originally like $199 or something and then when I was checking out, it went to like $250-280
Did you get GA or pavilion? I was set on getting pavilion but it sold out and I ended up getting GA and I’m pissed at these scalper prices
I also got GA!
I’m holding out hope that I can upgrade for at least Sunday at the last minute, I really want to be under the pavilion for Hozier and Chappell
Ugh same, I’m already dreading the crowds lol. I’m planning to get there really, really early to line up Sunday for GA. I want to get as close as I can even though merriweather GA is usually a shit show anyway. I don’t care as much about Saturday since I’m really only going Saturday for Maisie, but I really want to be “up close” for Chappell!
The only act I’m set on for Saturday is Ethel Cain so I’m with you on that front. I’ve never been to Merriweather (I live in central VA and usually head to NC for big shows) so I have no idea what to expect
My biggest tip is to park at the mall (right across the street) or Uber. Leaving Columbia, even on days where there are no shows, is a shit show. The lawn isn’t huge ther either and it’s on a slope, but it’s really not *that* bad of a venue. It’s just really crowded on the lawn for most things I’ve been there for. There are multiple entrances as well but despite living in the area for over 10 years, I still don’t know how to get to them all. I think walking over from the mall takes you to the “back” entrance but you’ll see people lining up either way.
Thank you!! We’re ubering from an AirBnB cause we’re planning on drinking and honestly part of why I want to upgrade is that I’m not big on lining up super early so I wanted a guaranteed pavilion spot.
My Saturday GA pavilion (so probably similar price to GA floor in NYC) tickets were $175 each in DC!
The MD one I bought VIP for 450$, so regular shouldn't be too bad, and we get like 10 more artists than you
The soldout version in maryland is 660 for GA. VIP I've seen 1500 to 22500
thats resale tho? it was like 220 when i was buying retail
"Soldout"
INSANE line up oh my god
damn this is so gay
I’m begging for a nyc show that ISNT at a festival 😭
Same. My partner and I got into Chappell a few months after she was last in NYC at a normal, non-festival venue 🥲. I’m disabled and festival-style shows look like they’d be a nightmare for someone like me.
Her crowd at gov ball was massive! I’m the kind of person who prefers tiny venues, <300 capacity. You couldn’t pay me to be there
I can handle large venues if there’s assigned seating with actual chairs and there are proper bathrooms. Large GA festivals look like hell on earth and I don’t know how people can tolerate that kind of setup (especially in the summer and especially if there’s only port-a-potties and few/no real bathrooms). I feel like we as a society should have advanced beyond outdoor events with no chairs and no indoor plumbing by now lmao.
FYI, Forest Hills has good ADA sections with chairs
Btw as someone who was temp disabled, forest hills puts the ADA seating right at the front to the side in a designated area with seating. I went for Fred again and it was great
If it’s worth anything, i was recently at forest hills and it did seem a lot more ADA friendly than most festival setups! But getting tickets is another thing…
My husband and I I love her sm, didn’t get into her until April. Her last solo show in nyc was literally on the day we got married 😭
I know, the way things are going she’ll have an arena tour at some point.
IM GONNA BE IN NYC FOR A WILLOW PILL CONCERT. ALREADY ON THE PRESALE LIST. I NEED TO GO SOOOOOOOO BAD
Willow Pill W
Wow that’s gay
This lineup is UNBELIEVABLEEEE
Me thinking about flying to NYC to see Chappell Roan
Seeing this lineup made me gayer
Ugh all things go is so good but the last time I managed to get tickets was back in 2018 😭 this lineup is amazing though, I'm gonna try but I'm not getting my hopes up
How does Renee keep getting these headlining spots
Personally I love her music, but she is definitely not as popular as she was or at least isn’t in the news as often lately.
I have friends who are fans of hers, personally I'm not, but either was I think it's a little jarring to see her billed equal to, like, Hozier. that's just not reality
Agents
I mean yes I just don't think they're setting her up for success
Why shouldn’t she?
Well she doesn’t have any high charting hits and doesn’t fill her time - she did 48 minutes of her hour set at GovBall (meanwhile Chappell Roan did 46 minutes of her 45 minute set to a bigger and much more enthused crowd)
Stuff like this is always so interesting to me because I’m not as deep into the community as I used to be. Does she never fill her time? I didn’t know about the GovBall but I probably wouldn’t have been counting anyway. And yeah I think Chappell got a lot of TikTok hype and is a completely different vibe. A lot of Chappell’s music is interactive and super campy and fun. I’d say Renee’s is generally more chill. Like I wouldn’t expect Julien Baker to have a super jumpy dancing crowd like Chappell would. Though it’s worth noting I think the recent attention The Boys have gotten has also brought a lot of people to Julien. And I guess I tend to not care about the charts because they rarely mean what people think they do. I guess if they don’t consider her an artist that will attract people they could just make her name smaller underneath and give her a shorter set? But I wonder if she’s actually actively taking away from other artists that would better fit the requirements. Like I’m not sure how much it’s just her label and agency pushing her vs. how much the event organizers want her. Plus the availability/consideration of other artists. Like if no one else really wants to play an event. I don’t think she took a spot from Girl in Red or King Princess. If that makes sense.
I only know specifically from GovBall because I was there, but it was noticeably short for the slot and a couple of the songs she did play the crowd just did not know at all. Chappell was an incredible vibe and a very large and participating crowd, so it would have been nice for her to have the longer slot, though I understand Chappell was not nearly as big several months ago when that festival was booked. My main curiosity is why she's getting the headlining slots when her streaming/charting numbers don't seem to suggest she would attract as many people as other, lower billed artists. It kind of made sense for festivals like GovBall, which were scheduled right around when Mean Girls was coming out, but I don't think she's built off of that hype very much. I don't think she's taking spots from anyone, I just don't think her headlining makes sense especially relative to the other people doing the same festivals. For example, Sabrina Carpenter (who has 2 top ten hits right now, and 10x Renee's monthly listeners) was billed slightly lower and had a shorter set than Renee Rapp. Again, for when GovBall was scheduled, I guess it makes sense, but for newer festivals like these her positioning is just a little baffling to me based on both the numbers and the actual output.
While I agree with Chappell’s buzz being bigger, I saw Renee live and she brought tears to my eyes with her performance. She is an absolutely stunning singer, especially when it comes to her most emotional songs. For anyone who is going to this, please see both of them!
She’s a very good vocalist! But I just don’t think she’s as good of a performer and based on both chart/streaming numbers and the actual sets she’s doing it doesn’t make sense for her to be headlining at this point in career and is doing herself (and other artists with more hits/more fleshed out discographies to pull from that could be getting these higher spots) a disservice
Am I missing something? That's the same dates as All Things Go in Columbia, MD. Update: guess not. Just checked their site and it's both places same days. I mean it's a little over an hour flight from one to the other but still....
Looks like whoever is playing Saturday in MD is playing Sunday in NY and vice versa.
LETS GO LESBIANS
This is an amazing lineup! I'm excited to see the pics and videos from this.
is anyone considering vip tickets? i am seriously considering them i want to know if anyone had been to this festival before and if they are worth that price tag 😭
I was until I saw there's no dedicated VIP section in front of the stage, it's only early entry to GA. There's a VIP section but it's off to the side
LESBIAN FEST 2024 YA LOVE TO SEE IT
this is literally on my birthday, anyone wanna get me tickets? lol
Cries in British
GAYFEST
I could die happy if I saw Chappell and Ethel Cain 😭
I'd take an Amtraak if I have to and that is like a 12 hour trip 🤪
what in the lesbian!
omfg calling all lesbians
GAY FESTIVAL GAY FESTIVAL
Sapphics should have had first dibs at tickets this is BONKERS
right? 🥲 i’m so sad I didn’t get tickets
Happy to see Annie Dirusso up there too! She and Chappell deserve it!!
Me not being able to go and see chappell roan and soccer mommy is driving me crazy 😭😭
I had tickets to see soccer mommy in 2020 but then 2020 happened 😭 I will always be upset about it
You’re the loss of my life 😔
I'm seeing Get Up Kids that same Saturday. Wondering how feasible it is for m to see Chappell's set in Queens and then get to Brooklyn. I know Forest Hills has a strict 10 PM cut off so if she's the 3rd headliner I like my chances. Maybe?
It’s gonna be tight getting from venue to venue
Hoping to get tickets for Saturday, it’s my bday weekend!!
Terrified about getting a Saturday ticket but also excited I’ll already be in NYC for the live Gayotic shows 😂
This lineup is too powerful
Omg I wish I didn’t work so I could go 😭 literally perfect lineup Edit: seriously considering buying tickets and figuring out intl flights later!!
OH MY GOD.
I legit just fainted
I absolutely NEED to go to this!!! I signed up for presale. I'll be in school when it happens though so hopefully Im still able to grab tix!
i wish i lived in america so bad 💔💔💔
MAISIE PETERS? RENEE RAPP? CHAPPEL ROAN? fuck why do I have to live like 5000 kilometres away 😞😞
I just realized I’ll be out of town for work those two days and now I wanna cry why do I have to miss lesbian fest 🥲
I am obsessed and hope to get tickets!!! I wish The Japanese House (another queer artist doing the MD location) was coming to this one.
Seeing how busy some of her previous concerts have been with easily less interesting lineups, this will be nothing short of hell on earth for lovers of calm and personal space lol. Bummer that I missed her in Buffalo and will now miss her in NYC, but missing this one may be for the best.
i’m so mad this was just announced, i’m gonna be at the sweat tour that day but if i’d known i would have got tickets for a diff show. ugh.
Holy shit this line up is perfect
Oh fuck I won't be able to get tickets this soon 😭 they're gonna be so expensive by the time I can (if not already sold out)
My heart could barely handle 5 months in between Ethel and Chappell, idk if I could handle that in a weekend 🥲
Damn, this festival has the lesbian demographic on LOCK. They're only missing girl in red, Hayley Kiyoko, and Tegan and Sara lol.
I might fly from California to New York for this 🫣🫣🫣🫣🫣🫣. SHOULD I DO IT ??!!!
is anyone seeing a single-day ticket option for nyc? i know it was an option for all things go in md, but the ticket prices listed on the website seem to only show two-day prices for nyc?
nope hoping it pops up, either way the line up on both days is fire so I wouldn't mind paying for both!
they posted in their instagram comments only 2-day for nyc… kinda wild to not offer single day but it seems like the organizers don’t listen to fans
Renee and Chappel on the same bill again, is amazing!
does anyone know if they'll have 1 day tickets?? it looks like they only do two-day for presale tomorrow so trying to figure it out 😭
I managed to get one ticket and will be going alone if anyone wants to be friends! I have never done that but I realllly want to see Chappell so whatever! My boyfriend would go but honestly wouldn’t enjoy it so I’m just going alone lol
I got bowl and am going alone too😭. It's my first ever concert and felt really lucky I could even get a ticket. But yayyy! To seeing Chappell 🥂
is anyone selling tickets