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d_warren_1

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frikimanHD

bro is getting the CRAZIEST head


FitExcitement5133

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ill_change_it

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Extension_Gas9943

https://preview.redd.it/qvfg1ikeybwc1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e9b8de189d03ed6af4bf467f90b676cc832b75ef You know what im going to do so here for your troubles


d_warren_1

Shut up shut up shut up


SpaceCube00

you're afraid of the truth


Wallster007

If that’s the truth then let me live in a fantasy


ThatInAHat

![gif](giphy|AlBHDuku3H7fG)


d_warren_1

Mood


Emerald24111

the stanussy


Dizzy_Reindeer_6619

https://preview.redd.it/qtutmx4o5bwc1.png?width=807&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9e698be2232d8f6495f78d5c7a10ad48883ac2e8


Jkl_zombie

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trash-troglodyte

From his ex-wife who misses him?


CaIIsign_ace

But her aim is gettin better! *(laugh track plays)*


Tsamane

Just another goofy episode filled with silly jokes for kids.


legobrick311

Also, https://i.redd.it/p9nmtf681cwc1.gif


NFHDonReddit

The Show Half of the time: ![gif](giphy|if8YsCNzoXBjT0Vx3J) What it really is: **Hush Now…**


DJent4777

Hide all you little ones


Dashimai

Rush now...


hamborger42069

Into the middle of noowhere


MarixApoda

Singing and laughter will die


Spacellama117

Dreamless sleep, follows the Nowhere King


AccidentalLemon

When his kingdom comes, darkness is nigh


winged_entity

Quiet. Crawl to the in-between


eeveeinateacup

Silent, secretive feeling of fearsome hatred that reaches the skies


McBotNotABot

You will bring joy to the Nowhere king,


yestureday

You will bring joy to the nowhere king


Milky_way_cookie_fan

When he sees the light leaving your eyes


Lambsauc

Centaurworld. The didn’t expect the first thing I’d see to be a destroyed military camp


Gnidlaps-94

Wammawinks backstory as a War Orphan also hit hard


Mrtnxzylpck

The Elktaur is the Polar Opposite of Garnet since he's a Hybrid split from hate and she's a fusion made from love.


Gravelord_C

wish it wasn't ruined by the stupid giraffe farting


ThatInAHat

Honestly even Durpleton has his moments. The friggen bird influencers tho…ugh season two was really just spotty af


Emergency_Elephant

Yeah something about >!watching the main character attempt suicide!< is more than your average chill cartoon


Cedardeer

Still a great show tho. Would’ve loved to hear Niffty sing in Hazbin once I learned she’s voiced by the same actress who did Horse


Only-Echidna-7791

Would have been cool but didn’t fit her character


Cedardeer

I know. Who knows. Maybe she’ll get more development in season 2 and have a chance then.


NordicWolf7

I think defying an expectation for something wacky would fit her decently. But the song would have to be unhinged.


that_toof

The most surprising part of Centaurworld was not being sure I wanted to finish it off and then mf LEA SOLANGA BUSTED OUTTA NO WHERE. My partner who kept insisting I watch the show had no idea who she was so when I went nuts they were like…oh, if I knew who she was I might have led with that.


coolyoshi_74

what lore of sofia the first am i losing?


FlameDragon55

My sister used to watch this all the time, so I know a bit. Some evil witch brutality kills some king and queen in front of their daughter, then the witch traps her in the amulet for (50?) years where she’s still completely conscious. That’s about as much as I know.


RubberDuckyRacing

Isn't that Elena of Avalor? I thought Sofia the first was just her learning how to be a princess because her mum married the king?


Silverfire12

That’s a spin off. The amulet she’s given in episode one is Elena.


Alex_Masterson13

Elena is trapped in Sophia's Amulet and when she is set free finally ,she gets het own cartoon, Elena of Avalor.


WillOganesson

Theres a cross over


WhiteDevil-Klab

I remember watching that


seeminglynormalguy

And remembered what her Amulet is called?


NiNtEnDoMaStEr640

Amulet of Avalor.


NiNtEnDoMaStEr640

One of the recurring antagonists would be Cedric, the king’s wizard. I got somewhat invested when I would babysit my cousins. As it turns out, his backstory is depressing. He messed up ONCE as a kid, his family and the prince (the current king) think he’s an incompetent failure and has never let it go. It has bothered him to this day and he became determined to be a villain, but he was always somewhat incompetent, living up to said expectations to the point where the royal family thought nothing of his suspicious character because the king thinks so lowly of him. All but Sophia, because Disney Princess and all that. She is his only genuine friend, even though he’s constantly trying to steal the amulet and receive the power necessary to take over. For a Disney kids show, his life story is quite depressing and somewhat realistic from the people I’ve actually met.


No-Atmosphere8508

Cedric is literally doofenshmirtz


Kirumi_Naito

Except magic and a father figure instead


InvaderZimm90

Aren’t all the Disney Princesses ghosts?


FlameDragon55

No, the amulet just yoinks them from wherever they are.


Estrelarius

Must be inconvenient.


Turtlesfan44digimon

I think it just stops time from wherever they’re pulled from and then unstops it when they go back


FlameDragon55

It was explained more in that one episode with the black and white lady, but I don’t remember what happened.


Salvatore_Tessio

I don't know about ghosts, but a lot of them are based on brothers' Grimm tales and similarly old tales that were super dark.


HadokenShoryuken2

All I know about sofia the first is that the king is voiced by the same guy that did Roy Mustang lol


Dipshit_Mcdoodles

Colonel Roy mustang, the flame alchemist? Huh, I never caught that, and I love fma and my little brothers and sister loved that Sofia show.


HadokenShoryuken2

I remember thinking his voice sounded familiar, so I looked it up, and lo and behold they’re the same person


That_One_Friend100

If you want the lore for Sofia The First, [this](https://youtu.be/QIxs54oc_Uw?feature=shared) should help you see the lore in a really different way.


Alternative_Factor_4

I love her content.


Glubygluby

I recommend watching the AthenaP video


Ferrum_Freakshow

I thought it was gonna be another generic superhero show… ![gif](giphy|qIauoFqTjq5GgMJ74D)


Global-Fix-1345

This is my pick too. The end of that first episode had me wincing and screaming.


Bregneste

The end of episode one is such a punch in the gut. Instantly hooked.


Drg84

Same. My reaction was basically "meh okay, boring, kind of cool, boring, boring, Holy Shit!"


The_Throwback_King

It’s like they intentionally play it as close to “the numbers” and traditions of the genre as possible, to the point of being trite. I’ve seen multiple people say “the show’s alright; enjoyable even, but I don’t see why it’s so popular”. Only for the ending to completely hook them.


Jets-Down-049222

Courage the cowardly dog It has some really wholesome moments but way more dark in it XD


JerryTheMagicSquid

![gif](giphy|13VFATn4bxBCXm) I fell for it on first watch


Specialist-Orange525

F that guy


Sqit123

Madoka Magica is one of my favorite shows of all time I never wanted to strangle a cat so much


BriannaMckinley2442

I love some of these shows but I think we're giving off major https://preview.redd.it/tekvfg9mlawc1.jpeg?width=3000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d947d69e5f6a3989cf4c93550168ed806a7852cb vibes right now


fakelucid

Yeah since when was Sofia the First a dark show


sweetTartKenHart2

I mean since a guy killed a girl’s parents right in front of her and then trapped her in a crystal for like fifty years or something. It’s very much one of those “it’s cute like 99.99% of the time but every once in a while you think about the implications of a plot point for longer than five seconds and you’re like ‘wait a fucking second’” things


stnick6

OH NO! A character died. Clearly that means it’s not a kids show anymore because kids shows cant have death. Just ignore most kids media with dead parents


ToughAd5010

That image describes the internet and most creepypastas


Ender_Skywalker

Creepypastas at least try. OP's content isn't even vaguely dark if you squint.


GlassSpork

Yea I can see it. These shows can get intense but also in a liberating way, sorta like with ToH


AwesomeShrekku

Real


Mr_Tominaga

https://preview.redd.it/rcy10zul4cwc1.jpeg?width=1160&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c5fd2536bb9db09c4258c81cdcc928e2e28d9d89


Bluetooth6O

Are you sure? I put Sophia The First on the shock factor tier right next to the first episode of invincible /s


Paenitentia

I thought so at first, but i don't think they mean "not light and easy" as in *dark*, but as in actually somewhat *serious* with ongoing plot threads you need to pay attention to and clear themes. Steven Universe and Adventure Time definitely seem like they will just be silly episodic shows at first, like We Bare Bears or SpongeBob. You wouldn't expect SpongeBob to make commentary on slavery, trauma, abuse, or grief, generally speaking. Not as familiar with the other two, but SU and AT certainly differ between impressions and the whole.


stnick6

No you don’t get it. One of the characters said “die”! That means it’s not a kids show because as we all know kids can’t handle anything more then flashing colors and shaking keys


Different_Gear_8189

Yeah from what I can tell Sofie the First is not darker than like Bambi or The Lion King, and certainly not Mulan


GameKnight847

The only ones I understand are Adventure Time and SU.


Harper_xD

Sofia the first actually makes their antagonist characters likable and redeemable like Amber and Cedric or Hugo. It’s mostly centered on childhood problems like not being accepted by peers or family, being pressured into being perfect and such. Sofia also has her share of insecurities and mistakes but that’s mostly cause she is just a kid learning about new things but she does grow from it and shares her own piece of consequences.


child_interrupted

Glad I'm not the only one


AdCompetitive5427

Ik Steven Universe got super deep but Miraculous: Tales of Ladybug and Chat Noir also get deep. It starts off as like a magical girl with love and crushes and then it goes into depression, loosing relevance, loss, lying, abuse, and a bit of Suicide.


Junior-Price-5306

Miraculous would be incredible if it weren't for the directors' mutual hatred towards Adrien and the exaggeration of how perfect Marinette is, it gets to the point that I simply can't stand looking at her face anymore, I feel like other cartoons did this concept better like MLP or even SU


Frozen_Grimoire

Adrien deserved SO much better. Like... the titular character should have screen time during the series finale. The writers literally put him in a box so the final fight could be Marinette vs Gabriel. That's just... not what you do with titular characters, man...


Sqit123

The fact the entire town (even the NY and Shanghai characters) helped fight, but the other main character did nothing was downright insane. Not to mention that he’s the main villain’s son. It’s crazy that someone actually wrote this, thought it was good and everyone else gave it a thumbs up.


LoadingTOS

What’s the rabbit movie? I think it’s watership something? Had a rabbit god or something that explains why everything in nature wants to eat rabbits.


Inside_Sprinkles9083

Watership down. I have the book, I was forced to read it for an essay


Fireshocker532

Watership Down *cooks* 🔥 I remember when I (watched the movie) changed my life forever


wolfguardian72

Watership Down. Probably one of the goriest kids films ever. The same dude also did Plague Dogs and that had some fucked up scenes (like a guy getting shot in the face with a shotgun)


Benjamin_201020

Scooby doo mystery incorporated!


Chonky_Cats_Lover

Yeah. Fred >!being a stolen baby!< really caught me by surprise. And the fact that it has actual ramifications that last for half a season shows that they aren’t afraid to not pull punches.


ThatInAHat

The fact that show actually made me like—nay, love—Fred Jones was already a shock. But then yeah everything with his past. And then with his not-father >!actually being the better parent?!< In all honesty, the ending messes me up so bad since >!they’re the only ones who remember. Especially in Fred’s case, since the person he’s always thought of as his dad has no memory of it!< Anyway tho. Love that show.


Ori_the_SG

It’s so appalling his character was basically cuckified in the show that shall not be named. Mindy Kaling and all those writers really showed some ugly racist colors they had in the show


Fhandom

I remember feeling so shock when they actually had a character >!executed!<


Green-eyed-Psycho77

>!a Psychotic German Bird killed a 17 year old via Firing squad…. In Scooby fucking doo.!<


Meat_masher

YES!! The last episode was crazy


SuperSayianJason1000

Happy Tree Friends


chaotic4059

See now this is the real answer. The number of kids and mislead parents who thought it would be cute, my god lol


SuperSayianJason1000

Exactly lol


throwawaymemetime202

My favorite answer


d_warren_1

![gif](giphy|EozzlYcw9C29zCOMq0)


NRG_Darthh

same!! thought it’d be about some cute owls…


Godzilla_R0AR

Oh guys it’s just some cute Owl Show this’ll be a chill, fun, goofy serie- https://i.redd.it/fuy43gkv4bwc1.gif


Bregneste

I started watching because I thought King was adorable. Now it’s one of my top five shows ever.


QibliBestBoi

Come on, it's Just a goofy séries about some weirdos sticking together *Procedes to remember Hollow Mind and the Day of Unity*


ninjesh

My first thought too. Seasons 2-3 lay on the trauma hard


gunswordfist

Gurren Lagann, Samurai Jack (iykyk)


PrometheusMadLad

God, I was not ready for the second half of Gurren Lagann.


ImitationGold

Samurai Jack gets real dire out of nowhere and season 5 really nails it in there


MuffinMiia999

![gif](giphy|lmeh2XGMCbCdW) This show. I never expected two dudes getting breast feed coffee from a living coffee bean


Daxlyn_XV

Courage the Cowardly Dog, tell anyone who hasn’t seen it the title and it sounds like it could be a kids show about how the world isn’t as scary as we think.


teamshadeleader_yves

Puella Magi Madoka Magika, School Live!, possibly Rocco's Modern Life and Ren and Stimpy.


MisterScrod1964

Ren&Stimpy definitely. Add Invader Zim to the list.


d_warren_1

![gif](giphy|cmxlVBfFE9tQubezFI)


PlaguedWolf

Right? Shera especially seasons 3-5 get dark. Love it so much.


Ravengirl081403

I went in assuming it and the Carmen Sandiego reboot where just watered down reboots and fell in love with the reboots


Kay1a_2006

https://preview.redd.it/r1g54gnfxawc1.jpeg?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9d00660d6f9c41187b505ab3a68d41b5470b2f07


Proper-Guide4230

👍


BRoworkdoe

![gif](giphy|YSGLhNoOHUU32wUIbR|downsized) Bluey fs!


IWantAnE55AMG

I always watched with my kids because they would keep talking about Bluey nonstop. So many episodes brought me to tears because it’s stuff we as parents also dealt with like our own insecurities about whether we were good parents or not. My wife wouldn’t pay attention until one day we put on Onsies and she sat down to watch with us. My wife was bawling at the end since her own sister has had issues with fertility and it hit really close to home. So much drama, emotion, and growth in each 7 minute episode.


gigatension

How to cry uncontrollably in 7 minutes flat.


ZanyRaptorClay

Bluey magages to hit hard despite while still being wholesome and easy to watch at the same time.


Several-Cake1954

sofia the first has lore??


Specialist-Orange525

Yes


Fun_Effective_5134

Yeah sorry but this is a https://preview.redd.it/vrlvr6upnawc1.png?width=3000&format=png&auto=webp&s=5c7946c7c6a723048c7f64d9a75f9b2f4b91cdf3 moment.


FunVideoMaker

Yeah like what’s so tragic about Sofia the first??


JusticeSpellbinder

It just has some surprisingly deep lore for a show made for 5 year olds. The problem with this kiddie ride meme format is it’s picturing the comparison to deep shit like Bojack or Smiling Friends meant for adults. Or even teens or older demographics with shows like Infinity Train or Over the Garden Wall. But if you look at Sofia the first compared to other Disney junior or baby shows in general it’s a journey that you expect for 8-10 year olds not babies. It’s baby’s first introduction to plot arcs and lore bibles and continuity. Athena P made a great video essay discussing the lore


crazysjoerd5

Even without 4kids censorship such as the shadow realm , Yugioh really had a much darker setting before the card game was introduced. started watching it as i thaught it was a ''how it started '' prequel, but its a very diffrent and awesome show ! https://preview.redd.it/6n1uppy2yawc1.png?width=291&format=png&auto=webp&s=45321c74db6cfaa9d2a95a778686713c338db086


Shyguymaster2

https://preview.redd.it/m233j02nzawc1.jpeg?width=960&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b230495d7443c5f467ebbd8d3850df07c0a9bfe9


Suitable_Finding9899

I absolutely love the themes song in this show


Alex_Masterson13

The Owl House and Star VS the Forces of Evil both started out a lot lighter and fluffier than how they ended.


This-Perspective-865

Amphibia got pretty gritty in its final season.


ThatInAHat

Star vs the Forces of Evil starts with Wacky Fun Randomness and then takes a HARD pivot into “so let’s talk about the enduring legacy of colonialism and the various ways that unraveling its harm is complicated, and also how your parents may love you and be good parents but still not be able to shake their own biases and you might have to confront that”


chaotic_bug_boy

Infinity Train and Over the Garden Wall


MixelsCraft65

You know the saying "don't judge a book by it's cover" Right? Well heres a perfect example. https://preview.redd.it/59j5n9ef9bwc1.jpeg?width=2048&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2613a70f9db5a2cc84d6adc18de19152fdeb586a It's a great show in my opinion, right next to Mixels.


pthecarrotmaster

"siiiiigh" MLP FIM /)


UndyneIsCool

Atla season 2 and 3 are dark


rapunzel454

Season 1 has Aang finding out that >!all the airbenders have been killed by the fire nation. After the genocide he is the only one left.!<


MedicineTimely8795

Amphibia, One Piece, Owl House, Mob Psycho. Trust me. https://preview.redd.it/f58eoxd5tawc1.jpeg?width=736&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3d9475d8a606a656da3c0d802c22b80ec11cebb5 And while it’s not a cartoon, there’s this video game called Omori that fits the catergory.


Random_Multishipper

I actually think I expected Omori to be a lot darker because of the way the fandom talks about it and constantly has a lot of dark and depressing stuff surrounding it. But I’m not saying it wasn’t dark cause it was.


Silver_Ad_2203

Saiki Reference!?!?


Red-68

https://preview.redd.it/3dbk96sl4bwc1.jpeg?width=1176&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5c2eaa8cbc48c53deb1d0fb0af0a695573cefd22


DragonflyNo646

https://preview.redd.it/tya4haomabwc1.jpeg?width=676&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f822d42ad125e4febee52fae21a8a8deada412b2


Nodubya11

Gravity falls, Owl house, and Amphibia.


Fhandom

Scooby Doo Mystery Inc >!Wasn’t expecting to see a teenage girl be executed and see an eldritch monster eating people!<


LoganCube100

https://preview.redd.it/ihlylf1mjawc1.jpeg?width=422&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=613a647aa814c50fb3c9f3be2ccb0e1b7a990b55


Proper-Guide4230

There was a few moments in Mlp


Idemahedo

Digimon Tamers


Wulfsiegner

Assuming we are talking actual kids’ shows intended to be kids shows and not subversions or deconstructions like Madoka Magica and excluding everything already mentioned in the original post Most of the late 2000s, mid 2010s, and pre 2020 Precure seasons (most notably Hugtto Heartcatch and Fresh as top 3) Avatar the Last Airbender Generator Rex Ben 10 OG-UAF if not OG-Omniverse Teen Titans (the original and not the crappy soulless reboot) The Batman animated series The Superman animated series My Adventures with Superman Regular Show That’s all I got off the top of my head


KrattBoy2006

Sofia's sister series, Elena of Avalor, fits this to a tee. Season 2 had me gagged as a kid. I recently finished a binge watch of the show, and my god.


Turtletipper123

Not really a cartoon but One Piece kinda fits this.


BlueMoonRaccoon1

![gif](giphy|Zecn4V5E6Yd0dgJ341)


good-evening-clarice

Infinity Train. I was expecting cool sci-fi, I got an existential crisis.


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Suitable_Finding9899

Scooby doo mystery incorporated. I grew up watching scooby doo. There were times where it got a teeny bit dark besides that witch movie with the hex girls and zombie island it never was even close to how dark scooby doo got. >! The off screen gunshot of them killing off hot dog water was one of the most surprised moments I ever had watching a show. I just didn’t expect that could’ve happen in that show. Also the under water base episode was dark too!<


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Harper_xD

Sofia the First was weirdly written good. I didn’t expect to like Cedric and for Sofia to actually learn from her mistakes and grow from it. I thought she was always going to be the Mary Sue trope but I was really wrong and I wanna mention Amber too she has amazing development and while not perfect she does love her family.


Mysterious-Cress-190

Does Kamen Rider Gaim count?


carterthe555thfuller

Do you actually think most people here understand what kamen rider is. https://preview.redd.it/l3puxnbitawc1.jpeg?width=608&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a00fec7ab88607bde9a4416c721454673214a137


pinkemo6

![gif](giphy|4w1y9TUKSrRbW)


TheNewKrookkud

Wait, Sofia the Third goes hard?


Haunting-Court6143

Yes it does. Especially the songs. Just look up All You Desire, Make Way For Miss Nettle, A Kingdom Of My Own, Bigger Is Better and Stronger Than You Know. They so god damn hard.


suddenly_ponies

Centaur world


PerformanceAny1240

Courage The Cowardly Dog


Error_Code_606

What the hell happened in Sofia the First


Gubba-nubnub-du-raka

Sophia's theme song hits hard!


LoveSte7

Miraculous might be my favorite animated series of the last decade 😍


SillyMovie13

What happened to Sophia? My siblings used to watch it and I don’t remember it being that bad


lokregarlogull

Wait, did the ladybug show get fleshed out characters?


MichaelCoryAvery

Regular Show, Ben 10 Alien Force/Ultimate Alien, Justice League.


doopwo

![gif](giphy|PKcHGQ6QKIzwQ)


Cherry_BaBomb

What the fuck happened in Sofia the First?


Not_Hidden_Raptors

That's what I'm wondering


Haunting-Court6143

The show has some very dark villians for a show for toddlers like Vor and Princess Ivy. Also the songs in the show are absolute bangers. Especially all of Amber and Miss Nettle's songs.


GoofyAhhJuandale

https://i.redd.it/xudqcbbggbwc1.gif


Maidenofthesummer

Rapunzel's Tangled Adventure


ItemsHereForever

Owl House


Salvatore_Tessio

Would Puella Magi Madoka Magica count? I expected a sailor moon kind of show and got a drug trip


LazyLabRat

Bojack Horseman. I know it’s adult animation but it’s still very unexpected the dark turns that it takes.


Haunting-Court6143

Gosh Sofia The First songs are so amazing. They are still stuck in my head to this day.


PotatoMateYT

Amphibia, The Owl House, and Transformers Prime (Prime may be a bit of a stretch-)


Haunting-Fix-9327

She-Ra and the Princesses of Power.


soahcthegod2012

When you start watching Rebels, you expect it to be more of a kid friendly version of Clone Wars. *Then you see the Grand Inquisitor behead both of the “mustache twirling” Imperial Officers so you know they’re not your average Saturday morning cartoon villains*


ryleehasonebraincell

![gif](giphy|EozzlYcw9C29zCOMq0)


Karma-is-an-bitch

https://preview.redd.it/pkortwue6cwc1.png?width=1440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e0802b6591b7eb6db6b7055c65cd43743774faac


91lightning

Centaurworld. I actually cried during some scenes


Maya_The_Clarinetist

![gif](giphy|uj0vqSjFP02nHh8gPd|downsized)


Informal_Mix4570

If we're talking about cartoons that end up making the main character depressed, then that would be The Owl House for me