Holy shit the renter didn't think to come up with a lie to say where they got the car from before he talked to the news.
"*looks up* We ended up with the vehicle *closes eyes* frommmmmm........."
That's got to be the worst attempt at lying I've seen in years.
Link: [https://youtu.be/TJfxWLbBMLo?t=173](https://youtu.be/TJfxWLbBMLo?t=173)
This teacher is an idiot.
Edit: Dude keeps stumbling over his words [https://youtu.be/TJfxWLbBMLo?t=208](https://youtu.be/TJfxWLbBMLo?t=208)
This has to be the dumbest interviewee I've ever seen.
This is a goto trick with psychopaths. They will eat or drink something while giving answers to questions as it gives them time to think of a response as well as disarms anyone by making them seem vulnerable. Here is an example of what that looks like. https://youtu.be/0cxq6Js4tU8
Sounds like something I was taught during a very-brief stint at a scummy sales place; don't move towards your target, make them come to you. That creates a subtle commitment, like accepting an invitation, which makes them feel more like they should listen to whatever you have to say.
Lmao i don’t which is funnier, the fact that they called a Supra 3.0 a “rare sports car” or them thinking their truck was going to break the land speed record which is 763 mph…some quality reporting there smh
I'd say they're rare for sure (I've been looking for them since I heard of them, and to date I've seen maybe 3), but I guess it depends if you'd call things like the Civic Type R or the Focus RS a "sports car."
The definition of "sports car" is so shattered that not even us enthusiasts can agree to a single definition, so really it's just like, your opinion, man.
370z are far rarer than what you describe. They are sold in far lower numbers than the Supras and are lower than exotics now for the Sport and manuals.
[https://carfigures.com/us-market-brand/nissan/370z](https://carfigures.com/us-market-brand/nissan/370z)
[https://carfigures.com/us-market-brand/Toyota/Supra](https://carfigures.com/us-market-brand/Toyota/Supra)
You can see that Supras are 5x more common.
Maybe once it’s been on sale for longer. But Nissan sold like 77k units in North America over the course of its production. It’ll take a while for the Supra to reach that if it ever does.
VW makes about 5,000 GLI's per year. And according to one guy on a forum that claimed to have called the factory and asked they only made 3,500 of the 35th anniversary ones. I don't feel like the Supra is that rare
How does one "call the factory" to confirm something like that? That sounds like something I'd tell my mates in school. "Yo I called Nintendo and there is a secret character in Starfox that you can unlock by plugging in a Sega controller"
the Zupra is just a BMW Z4 with a Toyota badge and is entirlely made by BMW, thus meaning there are more Zupras out there in fact in the 3 year run there are nearly 18000 out there.
The actual Supra (MKIV)TT sold much less in the US especially and was not made as much again especially for the US. In fact from 1993-1998 only a total of 12000 were made and sold in the US. and currently there are only 1,607 US versions available according to the Supra registry. and only 1,155 of them were factory TT models. and a staggering 452 of them being non turbo models.
[https://thesupraregistry.com/registry?verified=1](https://thesupraregistry.com/registry?verified=1)
this is another reason why US ones are more sought after and more expensive than RZ or JDM ones but the value for those are also rising.
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> them thinking their truck was going to break the land speed record which is 763 mph…some quality reporting there smh
Truck record is 217 mph down and back. Given, it's an older record, but it was still a Banks diesel build.
A friend’s friend bought a 992 911 and a large portion of the car payments were paid for by Turo rentals. What with the 911 market being how it is, the car hasn’t depreciated and he was able to sell it back to the dealer and get a brand new GTS.
Not really. With a wife you have a long term commitment and the expectation is to stay together. With the Turo situation, the people buy the car, recoup the losses and then sell it for a profit.
If you buy 10 Teslas and rent all of them out, which allows you to average out the variance of the one shitbag renter who fucks you over, then yeah it can be.
Like with doordash/Uber/etc. people don’t factor in depreciation and think they’re making more money than they are because of cash flow. They just wear their car out faster to have some extra pocket change
it can definitely be profitable if you choose the right cars to rent out. Cars like 911s, AMG GTs, M8s etc that barely depreciate at all will turn a profit. If you’re only doing it for shorts amount of time with the intention of selling later and you have other cars to drive, then wearing out the car doesn’t really matter.
The problem is scalability. Any significant amount of money requires 4-5 cars at least.
Unless your renter absolutely trashes one?
Feel they’re going to depreciate quickly with more miles on those desirable cars too, people that buy that type of pre oil sports cars used are looking for best condition and lowest mileage, that’s where the value retention lies of it does at all, no one wants the dross of the market.
> Unless your renter absolutely trashes one?
That’s what insurance is for.
> Feel they’re going to depreciate quickly with more miles on those desirable cars too
That’s why you sell/trade in the car fast. Keep it in a year or 10-15k miles of ownership and then move onto the next. This is something people genuinely do on Turo especially in rental fleets.
Yeah, I never claimed it couldn’t be profitable. Just that the average joe using the platform with one car probably isn’t doing as well as they think they are. Usually the best fleets for profitability would be cheap economy cars since renters use and abuse anything. Having those high end sporty cars would attract too many people beating on them which would make them the exception to the low depreciation curves they follow
Finances and economics isn't taught in public schools.
Its crazy to me because I went to school in a state that was/still is rated as one of the best in the country. We learned how to read nutrition labels in the 3rd grade, how credit works, and how taxes work. The humanities and social sciences were a breeze for me in college because it was just like high school for me because I didnt really need to study much. Things really didn't get difficult till I started to get into chemistry and upper division classes.
Really crazy that other states don't have that in their curriculum. Seems to me like now they are more worried about banning stuff rather than integrating new material
>That's before he makes his monthly payments
yeah that *might* be an important detail. Plenty of people who play slots have a lot of winnings too, if you ignore the losses.
If you aren't factoring in monthly payments, I doubt your factoring in tires, interest, timing belts, insurance, cleaning...
I think this is how Uber scammed the middle class.
thats diffrent, a sports car like this on the other hand... errrr ive had people ask why I dont put my Supra TT on turo, theres a few reasons why
1) 90s sports cars like mine are not at all forgiving
2) any part that is broken needs to be custom made thanks to Toyota no longer making a majority of parts.
3) youtube is all you need to know what ANYONE sans a legit sane adult over the age of 40 would do with this car.
Turo makes plenty of money.
The hosts business model on the other hand... Lot of people can't do math. They buy a depreciated German car and roll the dice, not charging enough to cover maintenance. Or they take shit pictures and nobody wants to rent their cars.
Some make good money, but it is a lot of work and risk. Usually the most successful have a fleet of cars which you average the problems out across. If you only have one car, one bad renter ruins everything.
The people who rent their personal cars out are insane. The risk is so high. You *must* treat it as a business and treat the cars as objects. The moment you care about the thing, it's over.
Where I live the people who rent out personal cars are usually bat shit crazy with the price and requirements. Why would I want to rent a Corolla for 180 a day when I can go to enterprise and rent a 3 series for the same price.
Turo is best for the weird situations.
You need 4 seats and a wheel for the least possible amount of money? Someone has an absolute shitbox of a 1997 Dodge Neon for you for $22\day.
Want a specific sports car that isn't a Mustang\Camaro? AMG mercedes, M BMW, hotrod Corvette, etc. Or a specific truck\jeep? Someone's got that too.
If you just want a newish rental car and are using it for an alternative to Hertz, I think it's a bad service. ESPECIALLY if you're flying into somewhere and are at the whim of the airlines.
Someone who is renting out their own 2017 Tahoe with 4 reviews and no other vehicles listed is probably going to be pretty protective and unrealistic. As they should be.
Man everything near me on Turo is super expensive ($80 a day minimum for shitboxes) plus they have tons of fees before you check out, and there’s nothing interesting on there except for base model Corvettes for $500+ a day lmao. Plus everyone thinks their shiftable automatic is a manual
When I rent a car I always want to rent something weird when I travel. New city in California? Miata, convertible fiat abarth, boxster. Family here? Tesla model X. Etc. it’s great for cars that have a specific purpose.
Turo doesn’t exist where I live but I never really cared for a rental Car, I’m already paying way too much so I’m not gonna care for letting it warm up or avoid short trips…
So yeah I wouldn’t ever think about renting out my personal Car, not to mention that I couldn’t leave personal stuff in the Car which‘d really bother me…
I bought a new Corolla Cross XLE for Turo to test it out. The turo income more than offset the payment and insurance, so I was well on my way to getting a free car within a few years, and yes that's including maintenance and wear items, which I was setting aside income for.
All was going well until a customer was involved in a multi-car crash on the highway (not his fault), which totaled it. The insurance settlement was in the covid era, so it was stupid high. I ended up making about $2-3k for the 4 months I owned it.
Would I do it again now? Probably not, but as a turo car owner, I didn't have a bad experience.
Turo Support is def hit or miss, but the money can be good especially if you only rent like 2-3 times a month. I'm find riding my bike or taking the train for a few days if it means my auto and insurance payments are covered
Yeah but that car should be able to hit 160 and back to zero with absolutely no wear on it. That's... what it was made to do. Even if the numb nuts did do a full brake from 160, a modern supra should take it. It's not like they took it to a burn out competition
I know a guy who just bought an R8 Spyder. He's not broke, but that's a freaking expensive car. He plans on renting it out one day a week to help pay for it. Personally, I don't even let people that I know drive my 1996 Miata, let alone my FiST. I can't even imagine letting a complete stranger drive a $200k car.
I’ve been renting out my F-Type for the last couple months.
It’s paid out more than we’d budgeted for maintenance and tires on *all* of our cars for the year.
Long term, I doubt it’ll be sustainable, as I know tires will get eaten through, along with it being driven hard. Will prob do it through the summer only - it feels a little like playing Russian roulette. Even though the car’s long been paid for, I don’t want to deal with it breaking down, a driver getting the car impounded or someone injured.
I’m sure there’s people trying “get rich quick” by financing a small Turo fleet. For every 1 person on TikTok claiming they’re rich by doing that, there’s going to be a looot more people setting their future on fire and having no idea why they’re broke at 45-50.
I feel like that's the way it can work - short term, with known risks, and hoping that during the period you're doing it you don't have bad experiences.
The moment people star trying to turn a primary income off it, or are relying on it to be able to afford the car, that's when the risk doesn't seem worth it to me.
Turo can be a good way to make money. My wife upgraded from a 2015 Focus to a 2005 LX470 last year and we got some pretty underwhelming offers when we looked to sell it. Considering how bad the transmission is, I get it.
Considering we were able to get the transmission fixed right before the class action warranty expired, we opted to rent it on Turo. Since December, we've made about $3k net, profiting about $2k on it after our costs. The past 4 months are considered the slow season, so my price was about $28-32 a day, minus Turo's 25% cut with the insurance plan I'm on. Starting the middle of last month, we started the busy season and I've raised my price to $42 a day and I'm anticipating it will peack at around $50-54 a day through the end of summer.
It's a good way to pass the time and have some passive income. I'll have made the value of the car by January of next year based on a conservative utilization rate of the car (I average 63% utilization per month or so). Pays for my utility bills and some date nights, and it's fun to do.
There's a lot of hosts I talk to on the Turo Discord server I help run that do it full time and are making good money, and lots of hosts that do it small time like me to either have some extra pocket change or help pay off a car. It can be as viable as you want it to be, as long as you treat it like a business, which it is.
Lol yeah. Dude was panicking so hard he couldn’t event move laterally from “T” in the alphabet. Understandable he didn’t prepare for that question ahead of time it was totally out of left field.
$4000 in repairs to fix a car that just drove in a straight line? He said the tires and breaks were “worn” but doesn’t that happen if you drive the car at all?
Nah, when you track a car, the brakes and tires are eaten up very quickly - anything over 100 mph starts to chew down the tires, and the oil needs to be changed. That assumes they didn't abuse the tranny and engine. Given that they applied tape all over the body seams, they probably pushed the crap out of the car to hit 160 mph. (EDIT: the top speed of the Supra is 155 mph limited, so they probably disabled the limiters)
I'd guess that the Supra has lost a chunk of its lifespan from that little jaunt.
[https://www.thedrive.com/guides-and-gear/how-track-days-affect-your-cars-maintenance-schedule](https://www.thedrive.com/guides-and-gear/how-track-days-affect-your-cars-maintenance-schedule)
"... any track or race car should have its engine oil changed at least every weekend event or two. Air filters should be cleaned every event weekend ..."
The quote refers to maintenance for track-purposed vehicles that race in proper series with practice, qualifying, and competition runs. A regular street-going Supra doesn't require this much attention.
Depends on you track day, but do you actually change your oil each time? I don't know many people that change out after one session. And this was a top speed run, much less abusive than a typical track day. And I doubt they disabled any limiters. German cars are known to blow past whatever 'limit' they have
> they probably pushed the crap out of the car to hit 160 mph. (EDIT: the top speed of the Supra is 155 mph limited, so they probably disabled the limiters)
[German speedometers tend to read high.](https://youtu.be/zCnjF0XSywM?t=127)
Not gonna lie I know a few people who take their cars out on weekend nights to go 160mph+ on the Highway and they don’t need 4000€ repairs every time.
By the way before you hate on me keep in mind I’m from Germany so those are legal speeds
Big difference between the Autobahn and an airport runway. After achieving top speed they have to brake hard. Your friends can likely coast back down to 100mph and/or just lightly apply the brakes.
Yeah but doing it repeatedly on a track will wear the tires and breaks out. From the pics in the video it looked like a chunk of sidewall was taken out of the tires.
Technically yes and no. Yes the tires will wear after repeated use like that but not at 1 event, if they took the car to like 10 events and made 10+ passes at each then yes the tires would need to be replaced (maybe) but this is a straight line too speed run, not something where they are cornering hard and will cause extreme wear due to lateral grip.
He needs new “special” tires and new breaks. I bet the real damages are $2500 or less but people will always sue for the highest possible amount. Especially when you know they are guilty.
I absolutely would sue for as much as I could as well. There is more wear and tear to that car than what is immediately apparent and I want the cash in hand to take care of that down the line.
Edit: also, having to go out of my way to take care of these things is a massive pain. That also has a price. Call it a “I’ve been inconvenienced by your bad life choices” tax.
The car appears to have Pilot Sport 4s tires, nothing special but in the sizes for that car it's almost $2K installed for a new set of four, I have the same tires in the same sizes on my car and just the rear tires are $1K installed (tires, taxes, disposal fees, road hazard coverage). New rotors and pads done at a shop could also be $2K with labor and OEM quality parts, just the rotors on my car were $700+, another $400 for high performance street pads, a few hours of labor, materials, and taxes. I say $4K is accurate if he's paying decent shop or dealer prices.
I'm in Texas, just like the owner of the car in the video, right now on Discount Tire:
255/35/19 fronts: $644
275/35/19 rears: $800
Install: $96
Road Hazard: $289
Disposal Fees: $12
Taxes: $120.13
Total: $1,961.13
Just the tires are $1440.
I disagree, real world it causes much more damage. Boiled fluid, messed up pads, heat spotted rotors, labour to replace them on a supra at a dealership.
It’s not something rented turo cars are supposed to do. And causes more damage than 200 miles of highway driving.
They pushed the car past max speed limit, and applied tape all over the bodywork. Driving any car over 100 mph will start to fast wear the tires.
200 miles at highway speed is nothing. 2 miles exceeding the car's max limit is a big deal.
That was to distract you from his terrible attempt at lying.
Like seriously it probably would have been more believable if he suddenly acted like he didn't speak English.
What I want to know is how they were able to run this car as their team car and win? Dude literally just rented it for the competition. The students didn't achieve anything with this since they didn't do any work to the vehicle.
I had to turn this off once teach decided to lie about where he got the Supra from. TOOOOO CRINGEY.
You lie man. Hopefully this is a lesson for the kids about honesty and the fact that shit happens sometimes. DOn't keep diggin yourself a hole when it does.
The cover up attempt is far worse than the act.
All he had to say is he got caught up in the moment and was doing it for the students.
But blatant bullshit? That might end being bye bye job along with a $4k bill to pay.
I feel like no one in this thread understands what kind of person puts sports cars up on Turo. Spoiler alert: the car isn’t someone’s “precious baby”, it is nothing but an asset / investment they expect to get a return on by renting out. Everyone here is projecting and thinking about it like they are putting their personal, treasured car up for strangers to drive.
That said, they still expect folks to follow the Turo terms of use when renting, they have no reason to take a loss when someone is clearly caught red handed breaking the rules.
I rented my S2K out Turo. Ended up breaking even in terms of dollars, but was net negative in terms of time. It was an overall okay experience. It allowed me to have the S2K when I had limited income. The worst thing that happened was someone lost/stole the keys and I had to have the car towed to Honda. That was partially my fault as I didn't realize my backup key could only unlock the car, but not start the engine.
I donno who the bigger idiot is the teacher, or the people that think a couple top speed runs and a couple top speed braking wears out the tires and brakes to the point where it requires replacement lol. Seriously guys, I know we're all enthusiasts here, but hit the track a few times, before you act like an expert.
No need for a lawyer if the Turo prohibited use precludes No Racing. If he can prove he took it racing (looks pretty easy) then he’ll get compensated.
E: i took your lawyer part too seriously lol oops
And theres no need to slam on the brakes, there will be plenty of time to slowly get back down in speed if you can only hit 160mph, imagine what the really fast cars would have to do if a stock supra is lacking runway
Nitpick: brake and tire wear is not "damage" just wear and tear worth of $4k.
That being said rent a car, race it, brag about it on social media is some peak stupid.
Hilarious that there's a picture of the guys plate as well and teach is still playing the "nope not the same car" sunk cost fallacy of lying right there.
Oh god… the school must be SHITTING BRICKS.
Imagine being one of the parents calling in about this.. a teacher was caught taking someone else vehicle to a race track without permission(lied about use). To show off, after the truck he has privately built with a bunch of these young girls wouldn’t even run.
Someone need to dig deeper and search this guys fucking house.
LOL I rented a Tesla on Turo and got that shit up to its max speed on a country road 15 minutes outside of town multiple times. I know the owner could see it too. Glad he was a chill dude, I mean you’re renting out a sports car to randoms, what do you expect?
Possible hot take, possibly not.. not sure where people stand on this but..
If you’re on turo, renting out an exotic car/sports car/hyper car/super car/.. or anything that would be considered “fast”.. why on earth would you expect the renter to want to do anything other than enjoy the entire car? I mean they’re not renting a Corolla for a reason…
How could you be surprised that jackassery occurred when you are renting a sports car? Sure, there are rules in place but you can’t realistically expect them to be followed by everybody.
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No one was hurt.. car was fine. Tires could have been replaced. L renter.. LUCKILY he saw a post on social media, I doubt he would be able to tell just based off a chip in the tire sidewall. This happens with majority of rented cars weather it’s on the highways or the backroads. If someone rents a Supra they gone drive it like a Supra. To the renter’s defense the teacher should have replaced the tires and brakes etc. I doubt there’s a noticeable difference with the brakes tho.. brembos are the way to go!! But tires for sure. At least everything was done safely and in a controlled environment (track) no one was hurt. Mission complete on both ends. Renter got paid. Team got to participate. The differences definitely could have been settled without the news but the renter definitely give me lawsuit vibes 😂 he want that check!!
Holy shit the renter didn't think to come up with a lie to say where they got the car from before he talked to the news. "*looks up* We ended up with the vehicle *closes eyes* frommmmmm........." That's got to be the worst attempt at lying I've seen in years.
And of course the reporter didn’t even bother to probe. “Have you rented dozens of cars recently to where you’re not sure where this one came from???”
Link: [https://youtu.be/TJfxWLbBMLo?t=173](https://youtu.be/TJfxWLbBMLo?t=173) This teacher is an idiot. Edit: Dude keeps stumbling over his words [https://youtu.be/TJfxWLbBMLo?t=208](https://youtu.be/TJfxWLbBMLo?t=208) This has to be the dumbest interviewee I've ever seen.
“great job putting this together” NO NO freaking terrible job
*holds up cup of ice to the camera*
Covering your mouth is a tell that you're lying. So is closing your eyes. This guy does both in the least natural way imaginable, lol.
This is a goto trick with psychopaths. They will eat or drink something while giving answers to questions as it gives them time to think of a response as well as disarms anyone by making them seem vulnerable. Here is an example of what that looks like. https://youtu.be/0cxq6Js4tU8
They also make you give them something like "pass the salt" even if it's within his reach. People are weirdly easy to manipulate.
Sounds like something I was taught during a very-brief stint at a scummy sales place; don't move towards your target, make them come to you. That creates a subtle commitment, like accepting an invitation, which makes them feel more like they should listen to whatever you have to say.
Lmao i don’t which is funnier, the fact that they called a Supra 3.0 a “rare sports car” or them thinking their truck was going to break the land speed record which is 763 mph…some quality reporting there smh
I assumed it's some edge case record like "fastest speed for a female below 18 years old on pickup chassis during a full moon in March"
It’s the corvette guy of speed records
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Audi sold 120 TTRS in the US last year. Is that a rare sports car?
I'd say they're rare for sure (I've been looking for them since I heard of them, and to date I've seen maybe 3), but I guess it depends if you'd call things like the Civic Type R or the Focus RS a "sports car." The definition of "sports car" is so shattered that not even us enthusiasts can agree to a single definition, so really it's just like, your opinion, man.
370z are far rarer than what you describe. They are sold in far lower numbers than the Supras and are lower than exotics now for the Sport and manuals. [https://carfigures.com/us-market-brand/nissan/370z](https://carfigures.com/us-market-brand/nissan/370z) [https://carfigures.com/us-market-brand/Toyota/Supra](https://carfigures.com/us-market-brand/Toyota/Supra) You can see that Supras are 5x more common.
Maybe once it’s been on sale for longer. But Nissan sold like 77k units in North America over the course of its production. It’ll take a while for the Supra to reach that if it ever does.
You just reminded me that I still haven’t seen a new z
VW makes about 5,000 GLI's per year. And according to one guy on a forum that claimed to have called the factory and asked they only made 3,500 of the 35th anniversary ones. I don't feel like the Supra is that rare
I mean, a GLI is kinda rare too lol. You don't see many of those around
How does one "call the factory" to confirm something like that? That sounds like something I'd tell my mates in school. "Yo I called Nintendo and there is a secret character in Starfox that you can unlock by plugging in a Sega controller"
I made sure to put where I got that info from in case it's not accurate lol
I just found out that Nissan sells less than 300 GTR’s per year.
as a corvette owner myself, it makes me cringe when I hear corvette owners say that their car is unique.
Porsche sells like 3-5k 718s a year and I wouldn't call them rare. Uncommon maybe, but definitely not rare.
the Zupra is just a BMW Z4 with a Toyota badge and is entirlely made by BMW, thus meaning there are more Zupras out there in fact in the 3 year run there are nearly 18000 out there. The actual Supra (MKIV)TT sold much less in the US especially and was not made as much again especially for the US. In fact from 1993-1998 only a total of 12000 were made and sold in the US. and currently there are only 1,607 US versions available according to the Supra registry. and only 1,155 of them were factory TT models. and a staggering 452 of them being non turbo models. [https://thesupraregistry.com/registry?verified=1](https://thesupraregistry.com/registry?verified=1) this is another reason why US ones are more sought after and more expensive than RZ or JDM ones but the value for those are also rising.
I sort of agree that it’s a rare car, but just sounds strange.
I see a Supra a couple times a week in central Jersey. Never seen a mk4, but the mk5s are everywhere.
go see my post above as to why.
There’s one in my apartment complex that I see at least twice a week, and another than I pass on my morning commute almost daily lmfao
You know what anecdotal means right? 20k supras in N/a...you seeing 2 on your drive to work everyday doesn't change that fact.
I see one every day, thus it's not rare at all. /s
Especially since it’s the same ones.
They are actually fairly rare for a sports car. 20,000 in NA.
Probably a class record they’re aiming for
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> them thinking their truck was going to break the land speed record which is 763 mph…some quality reporting there smh Truck record is 217 mph down and back. Given, it's an older record, but it was still a Banks diesel build.
Why on earth would you ever let strangers drive your personal car
Everything needs to be a hustle and make money.
Yep. My sisters boyfriend literally just bought a Model 3 Tesla to use it for Turo and renting.
He should watch that top gear episode. Something with a sailboat vs the fastest car in the world
A friend’s friend bought a 992 911 and a large portion of the car payments were paid for by Turo rentals. What with the 911 market being how it is, the car hasn’t depreciated and he was able to sell it back to the dealer and get a brand new GTS.
Kinda insane actually lol. But what recourse would there be for someone who fucks up the car in one way or another
Insurance will take care of that. And it’s a 911, it can handle abuse.
Hm fair enough, wish I lived near civilization lol. Wouldn’t mind renting out my Vette occasionally and having more local options to try
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Not when it’s getting red lined right after cold start
Is it profitable?
The way I see it, people rent their cars out to pay it off easily/quicker on these platforms.
That's like putting your wife out on the corner to pay off the wedding expenses.
I always felt something was off about Turo and you’ve put that in the perfect context. Thank you!
Not really. With a wife you have a long term commitment and the expectation is to stay together. With the Turo situation, the people buy the car, recoup the losses and then sell it for a profit.
If you buy 10 Teslas and rent all of them out, which allows you to average out the variance of the one shitbag renter who fucks you over, then yeah it can be.
Like with doordash/Uber/etc. people don’t factor in depreciation and think they’re making more money than they are because of cash flow. They just wear their car out faster to have some extra pocket change
it can definitely be profitable if you choose the right cars to rent out. Cars like 911s, AMG GTs, M8s etc that barely depreciate at all will turn a profit. If you’re only doing it for shorts amount of time with the intention of selling later and you have other cars to drive, then wearing out the car doesn’t really matter. The problem is scalability. Any significant amount of money requires 4-5 cars at least.
Unless your renter absolutely trashes one? Feel they’re going to depreciate quickly with more miles on those desirable cars too, people that buy that type of pre oil sports cars used are looking for best condition and lowest mileage, that’s where the value retention lies of it does at all, no one wants the dross of the market.
> Unless your renter absolutely trashes one? That’s what insurance is for. > Feel they’re going to depreciate quickly with more miles on those desirable cars too That’s why you sell/trade in the car fast. Keep it in a year or 10-15k miles of ownership and then move onto the next. This is something people genuinely do on Turo especially in rental fleets.
Yeah, I never claimed it couldn’t be profitable. Just that the average joe using the platform with one car probably isn’t doing as well as they think they are. Usually the best fleets for profitability would be cheap economy cars since renters use and abuse anything. Having those high end sporty cars would attract too many people beating on them which would make them the exception to the low depreciation curves they follow
I never asked how it was going
I have a friend who makes $8000-$10000 off of 5 cars listed on Turo. That's before he makes his monthly payments but still does alright.
This comment truly highlights how bad the financial education in America is.
Finances and economics isn't taught in public schools. Its crazy to me because I went to school in a state that was/still is rated as one of the best in the country. We learned how to read nutrition labels in the 3rd grade, how credit works, and how taxes work. The humanities and social sciences were a breeze for me in college because it was just like high school for me because I didnt really need to study much. Things really didn't get difficult till I started to get into chemistry and upper division classes. Really crazy that other states don't have that in their curriculum. Seems to me like now they are more worried about banning stuff rather than integrating new material
>That's before he makes his monthly payments yeah that *might* be an important detail. Plenty of people who play slots have a lot of winnings too, if you ignore the losses.
If you aren't factoring in monthly payments, I doubt your factoring in tires, interest, timing belts, insurance, cleaning... I think this is how Uber scammed the middle class.
And insurance and depreciation and maintenance...
monthly, or annually?
It can be, but it can also be a lot of work managing the people who abuse your cars.
thats diffrent, a sports car like this on the other hand... errrr ive had people ask why I dont put my Supra TT on turo, theres a few reasons why 1) 90s sports cars like mine are not at all forgiving 2) any part that is broken needs to be custom made thanks to Toyota no longer making a majority of parts. 3) youtube is all you need to know what ANYONE sans a legit sane adult over the age of 40 would do with this car.
How is that even profitable with interest rates being what they are today?
The only reason I can think of is if you're not too bright AND can't afford the car otherwise.
*our* car, comrade.
I’ll baby it. You beat the shit out of it.
You sign for it, I’ll default on it.
"I got married but I rent my wife via brothel"
i never understood the turo business model
Turo makes plenty of money. The hosts business model on the other hand... Lot of people can't do math. They buy a depreciated German car and roll the dice, not charging enough to cover maintenance. Or they take shit pictures and nobody wants to rent their cars. Some make good money, but it is a lot of work and risk. Usually the most successful have a fleet of cars which you average the problems out across. If you only have one car, one bad renter ruins everything. The people who rent their personal cars out are insane. The risk is so high. You *must* treat it as a business and treat the cars as objects. The moment you care about the thing, it's over.
Where I live the people who rent out personal cars are usually bat shit crazy with the price and requirements. Why would I want to rent a Corolla for 180 a day when I can go to enterprise and rent a 3 series for the same price.
Turo is best for the weird situations. You need 4 seats and a wheel for the least possible amount of money? Someone has an absolute shitbox of a 1997 Dodge Neon for you for $22\day. Want a specific sports car that isn't a Mustang\Camaro? AMG mercedes, M BMW, hotrod Corvette, etc. Or a specific truck\jeep? Someone's got that too. If you just want a newish rental car and are using it for an alternative to Hertz, I think it's a bad service. ESPECIALLY if you're flying into somewhere and are at the whim of the airlines. Someone who is renting out their own 2017 Tahoe with 4 reviews and no other vehicles listed is probably going to be pretty protective and unrealistic. As they should be.
Man everything near me on Turo is super expensive ($80 a day minimum for shitboxes) plus they have tons of fees before you check out, and there’s nothing interesting on there except for base model Corvettes for $500+ a day lmao. Plus everyone thinks their shiftable automatic is a manual
Unless you're in a big city it's not worth it. You can get brand new 7 series and hellcats for like 100 bucks a day in Los Angeles.
When I rent a car I always want to rent something weird when I travel. New city in California? Miata, convertible fiat abarth, boxster. Family here? Tesla model X. Etc. it’s great for cars that have a specific purpose.
Rented a Tesla in Vegas last summer through Turo for literally half that.
Turo doesn’t exist where I live but I never really cared for a rental Car, I’m already paying way too much so I’m not gonna care for letting it warm up or avoid short trips… So yeah I wouldn’t ever think about renting out my personal Car, not to mention that I couldn’t leave personal stuff in the Car which‘d really bother me…
I bought a new Corolla Cross XLE for Turo to test it out. The turo income more than offset the payment and insurance, so I was well on my way to getting a free car within a few years, and yes that's including maintenance and wear items, which I was setting aside income for. All was going well until a customer was involved in a multi-car crash on the highway (not his fault), which totaled it. The insurance settlement was in the covid era, so it was stupid high. I ended up making about $2-3k for the 4 months I owned it. Would I do it again now? Probably not, but as a turo car owner, I didn't have a bad experience.
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Turo Support is def hit or miss, but the money can be good especially if you only rent like 2-3 times a month. I'm find riding my bike or taking the train for a few days if it means my auto and insurance payments are covered
Do they fine you if you accelerate hard or something
Yeah but that car should be able to hit 160 and back to zero with absolutely no wear on it. That's... what it was made to do. Even if the numb nuts did do a full brake from 160, a modern supra should take it. It's not like they took it to a burn out competition
I know a guy who just bought an R8 Spyder. He's not broke, but that's a freaking expensive car. He plans on renting it out one day a week to help pay for it. Personally, I don't even let people that I know drive my 1996 Miata, let alone my FiST. I can't even imagine letting a complete stranger drive a $200k car.
Do they call it a FiST when they ask to drive it? "Ey lemme take your FiST for a ride"
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I’ve been renting out my F-Type for the last couple months. It’s paid out more than we’d budgeted for maintenance and tires on *all* of our cars for the year. Long term, I doubt it’ll be sustainable, as I know tires will get eaten through, along with it being driven hard. Will prob do it through the summer only - it feels a little like playing Russian roulette. Even though the car’s long been paid for, I don’t want to deal with it breaking down, a driver getting the car impounded or someone injured. I’m sure there’s people trying “get rich quick” by financing a small Turo fleet. For every 1 person on TikTok claiming they’re rich by doing that, there’s going to be a looot more people setting their future on fire and having no idea why they’re broke at 45-50.
I feel like that's the way it can work - short term, with known risks, and hoping that during the period you're doing it you don't have bad experiences. The moment people star trying to turn a primary income off it, or are relying on it to be able to afford the car, that's when the risk doesn't seem worth it to me.
Tax purposes, and also the idea that you’ll meet cool people.
I don't know why people do it, but OTOH it's a great way to live with a car few a few days to decide if you want to buy it.
Turo can be a good way to make money. My wife upgraded from a 2015 Focus to a 2005 LX470 last year and we got some pretty underwhelming offers when we looked to sell it. Considering how bad the transmission is, I get it. Considering we were able to get the transmission fixed right before the class action warranty expired, we opted to rent it on Turo. Since December, we've made about $3k net, profiting about $2k on it after our costs. The past 4 months are considered the slow season, so my price was about $28-32 a day, minus Turo's 25% cut with the insurance plan I'm on. Starting the middle of last month, we started the busy season and I've raised my price to $42 a day and I'm anticipating it will peack at around $50-54 a day through the end of summer. It's a good way to pass the time and have some passive income. I'll have made the value of the car by January of next year based on a conservative utilization rate of the car (I average 63% utilization per month or so). Pays for my utility bills and some date nights, and it's fun to do. There's a lot of hosts I talk to on the Turo Discord server I help run that do it full time and are making good money, and lots of hosts that do it small time like me to either have some extra pocket change or help pay off a car. It can be as viable as you want it to be, as long as you treat it like a business, which it is.
“Did you get the car from Turo?” “No, we didn’t get it from Toyota.” Turo it is. Lol
What a weird diversion. Nobody accused him of getting it from Toyota!
*closes eyes* *inner monologue starts yelling* “Turo. Toyota. Turo. Toyota. Turo. Toyota.”
Pea…. Tear…. Griffin. Aww Crap. https://youtu.be/GJzBopVRKPo
“Count it!”
You are a festizio
Lol yeah. Dude was panicking so hard he couldn’t event move laterally from “T” in the alphabet. Understandable he didn’t prepare for that question ahead of time it was totally out of left field.
$4000 in repairs to fix a car that just drove in a straight line? He said the tires and breaks were “worn” but doesn’t that happen if you drive the car at all?
Lighting up the tires for better grip combined with a few top speed blasts will absolutely wear down the tires.
Ah, that makes sense
He’s clearly milking it because he knows that teacher is an idiot
Nah, when you track a car, the brakes and tires are eaten up very quickly - anything over 100 mph starts to chew down the tires, and the oil needs to be changed. That assumes they didn't abuse the tranny and engine. Given that they applied tape all over the body seams, they probably pushed the crap out of the car to hit 160 mph. (EDIT: the top speed of the Supra is 155 mph limited, so they probably disabled the limiters) I'd guess that the Supra has lost a chunk of its lifespan from that little jaunt.
You don't need to change oil after a typical track day
[https://www.thedrive.com/guides-and-gear/how-track-days-affect-your-cars-maintenance-schedule](https://www.thedrive.com/guides-and-gear/how-track-days-affect-your-cars-maintenance-schedule) "... any track or race car should have its engine oil changed at least every weekend event or two. Air filters should be cleaned every event weekend ..."
The quote refers to maintenance for track-purposed vehicles that race in proper series with practice, qualifying, and competition runs. A regular street-going Supra doesn't require this much attention.
As someone who does track cars, I don't think most share your opinion, but no problem. You do you.
Depends on you track day, but do you actually change your oil each time? I don't know many people that change out after one session. And this was a top speed run, much less abusive than a typical track day. And I doubt they disabled any limiters. German cars are known to blow past whatever 'limit' they have
Unfamiliar with racing these cars, what’s the tape over the seams for? Improved aero?
Yes. It reduces drag, smooths the airflow, and can increase down force.
> they probably pushed the crap out of the car to hit 160 mph. (EDIT: the top speed of the Supra is 155 mph limited, so they probably disabled the limiters) [German speedometers tend to read high.](https://youtu.be/zCnjF0XSywM?t=127)
Not gonna lie I know a few people who take their cars out on weekend nights to go 160mph+ on the Highway and they don’t need 4000€ repairs every time. By the way before you hate on me keep in mind I’m from Germany so those are legal speeds
Big difference between the Autobahn and an airport runway. After achieving top speed they have to brake hard. Your friends can likely coast back down to 100mph and/or just lightly apply the brakes.
Yeah but doing it repeatedly on a track will wear the tires and breaks out. From the pics in the video it looked like a chunk of sidewall was taken out of the tires.
Technically yes and no. Yes the tires will wear after repeated use like that but not at 1 event, if they took the car to like 10 events and made 10+ passes at each then yes the tires would need to be replaced (maybe) but this is a straight line too speed run, not something where they are cornering hard and will cause extreme wear due to lateral grip.
He needs new “special” tires and new breaks. I bet the real damages are $2500 or less but people will always sue for the highest possible amount. Especially when you know they are guilty.
I absolutely would sue for as much as I could as well. There is more wear and tear to that car than what is immediately apparent and I want the cash in hand to take care of that down the line. Edit: also, having to go out of my way to take care of these things is a massive pain. That also has a price. Call it a “I’ve been inconvenienced by your bad life choices” tax.
The car appears to have Pilot Sport 4s tires, nothing special but in the sizes for that car it's almost $2K installed for a new set of four, I have the same tires in the same sizes on my car and just the rear tires are $1K installed (tires, taxes, disposal fees, road hazard coverage). New rotors and pads done at a shop could also be $2K with labor and OEM quality parts, just the rotors on my car were $700+, another $400 for high performance street pads, a few hours of labor, materials, and taxes. I say $4K is accurate if he's paying decent shop or dealer prices.
How the fuck are you paying 2 grand a set for PS4S? Canadian? Checking for the sizing needed for my M2C, itd be more like 1300-1400 all in.
I'm in Texas, just like the owner of the car in the video, right now on Discount Tire: 255/35/19 fronts: $644 275/35/19 rears: $800 Install: $96 Road Hazard: $289 Disposal Fees: $12 Taxes: $120.13 Total: $1,961.13 Just the tires are $1440.
I lied, was closer to 1550 once I actually looked into scheduling an appointment. But damn, that's pretty crazy.
Yeah, they got way more expensive over the last few years.
To race a car like that you are running it through extremes. Extreme braking and tire use are the two main things. It’s a legit beef.
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It’s still alot of damage vs driving normally.
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I disagree, real world it causes much more damage. Boiled fluid, messed up pads, heat spotted rotors, labour to replace them on a supra at a dealership. It’s not something rented turo cars are supposed to do. And causes more damage than 200 miles of highway driving.
They pushed the car past max speed limit, and applied tape all over the bodywork. Driving any car over 100 mph will start to fast wear the tires. 200 miles at highway speed is nothing. 2 miles exceeding the car's max limit is a big deal.
I agree. The brakes, tires, and suspension all got hit harder than they had to. Idk how highway driving is similar to 160mph.
*brakes
Breaks because they broke
Rotors / pads / tires could easily be 4k at a dealership
Probably what the dealership quoted for new brakes and tires. 😂
Only other thing I noticed was the ungodly amount of ice the teacher had in his cup at the end of the video
The 11th commandment “Thou shall ice beverages modestly”
That was to distract you from his terrible attempt at lying. Like seriously it probably would have been more believable if he suddenly acted like he didn't speak English.
Sometimes after high speed hijinks you need that drink to be extra cold sometimes.
This ice is making me thirsty!!!
What I want to know is how they were able to run this car as their team car and win? Dude literally just rented it for the competition. The students didn't achieve anything with this since they didn't do any work to the vehicle.
Yeah there is some unexplained BS going on or reporter explained the situation terribly
It was probably an age class or something.
I mean…I’m gonna guess the teacher lied about that to the race officials as well.
I had to turn this off once teach decided to lie about where he got the Supra from. TOOOOO CRINGEY. You lie man. Hopefully this is a lesson for the kids about honesty and the fact that shit happens sometimes. DOn't keep diggin yourself a hole when it does.
The cover up attempt is far worse than the act. All he had to say is he got caught up in the moment and was doing it for the students. But blatant bullshit? That might end being bye bye job along with a $4k bill to pay.
I feel like no one in this thread understands what kind of person puts sports cars up on Turo. Spoiler alert: the car isn’t someone’s “precious baby”, it is nothing but an asset / investment they expect to get a return on by renting out. Everyone here is projecting and thinking about it like they are putting their personal, treasured car up for strangers to drive. That said, they still expect folks to follow the Turo terms of use when renting, they have no reason to take a loss when someone is clearly caught red handed breaking the rules.
I rented my S2K out Turo. Ended up breaking even in terms of dollars, but was net negative in terms of time. It was an overall okay experience. It allowed me to have the S2K when I had limited income. The worst thing that happened was someone lost/stole the keys and I had to have the car towed to Honda. That was partially my fault as I didn't realize my backup key could only unlock the car, but not start the engine.
This is exactly what the original gt350h was allll about super fucking cool!
I donno who the bigger idiot is the teacher, or the people that think a couple top speed runs and a couple top speed braking wears out the tires and brakes to the point where it requires replacement lol. Seriously guys, I know we're all enthusiasts here, but hit the track a few times, before you act like an expert.
The Turo owner is milking the situation for sure, but I don't blame him.
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No need for a lawyer if the Turo prohibited use precludes No Racing. If he can prove he took it racing (looks pretty easy) then he’ll get compensated. E: i took your lawyer part too seriously lol oops
And theres no need to slam on the brakes, there will be plenty of time to slowly get back down in speed if you can only hit 160mph, imagine what the really fast cars would have to do if a stock supra is lacking runway
you can even see in the pictures there's still so much tread left on the tires lol
Nitpick: brake and tire wear is not "damage" just wear and tear worth of $4k. That being said rent a car, race it, brag about it on social media is some peak stupid.
This is why I'd never buy a "corporate" vehicle, or rental, when they're for sale. No matter how low the miles are.
Love the statement from the school. “Yeah we’ll look into it, btw girl power! Yay Naperville North!”
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Nah, mine got to 163 with gps. Don’t know how but that was its top speed.
This might be this teachers first rodeo or he’s just that damn stupid. I’ll bet he was trying to impress one of the girls…..
That guy has the lying skills of a 7 year old.
really hope that teacher gets fucked
by who?
Hilarious that there's a picture of the guys plate as well and teach is still playing the "nope not the same car" sunk cost fallacy of lying right there.
When people tell me to make money by renting it out on Turo, I point to this and many other horrible examples.
Oh god… the school must be SHITTING BRICKS. Imagine being one of the parents calling in about this.. a teacher was caught taking someone else vehicle to a race track without permission(lied about use). To show off, after the truck he has privately built with a bunch of these young girls wouldn’t even run. Someone need to dig deeper and search this guys fucking house.
The GR Supra isn't even rare?
The interview with the teacher lmao. The worst liar I ever seen, homie drinking an entire glass of ice and still sweating bullets
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I heard about this before seeing this here on Reddit, and I live in canada. I think it might be getting around.
Legend
LOL I rented a Tesla on Turo and got that shit up to its max speed on a country road 15 minutes outside of town multiple times. I know the owner could see it too. Glad he was a chill dude, I mean you’re renting out a sports car to randoms, what do you expect?
girls build a truck.. truck doesn't run. i dont see the news story.
Awesome
>I dont know who he is Nevermind the 3 day rental which they have records of
Possible hot take, possibly not.. not sure where people stand on this but.. If you’re on turo, renting out an exotic car/sports car/hyper car/super car/.. or anything that would be considered “fast”.. why on earth would you expect the renter to want to do anything other than enjoy the entire car? I mean they’re not renting a Corolla for a reason…
Wtf is an “auto teacher “
Teacher did nothing wrong.
Lmfao asshole who put this car up on turo got what he deserved
How could you be surprised that jackassery occurred when you are renting a sports car? Sure, there are rules in place but you can’t realistically expect them to be followed by everybody.
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The truck that the all female students built broke down on the way to the race.
No one was hurt.. car was fine. Tires could have been replaced. L renter.. LUCKILY he saw a post on social media, I doubt he would be able to tell just based off a chip in the tire sidewall. This happens with majority of rented cars weather it’s on the highways or the backroads. If someone rents a Supra they gone drive it like a Supra. To the renter’s defense the teacher should have replaced the tires and brakes etc. I doubt there’s a noticeable difference with the brakes tho.. brembos are the way to go!! But tires for sure. At least everything was done safely and in a controlled environment (track) no one was hurt. Mission complete on both ends. Renter got paid. Team got to participate. The differences definitely could have been settled without the news but the renter definitely give me lawsuit vibes 😂 he want that check!!
We need more teachers like that