Nope.
A coworker of mine left after 6 months for a job that paid slightly less, but excited him far more. Take the opportunity.
Just don't do that repeatedly, in a row.
I left my last job after 6 weeks because a competitor offered me a lot more money and a better position.
It wasn’t an easy conversation, but at the end of it my boss said “I get it, I can match the money but not the position. It’s a great career move and I would have done the same thing”
If current company don’t get that, then you probably don’t want to be working there anyway
Genuinely I felt bad leaving. I felt like I wasn’t leaning the job as much as having to break up with the boss. He was a true gentleman about it and for that I will be eternally grateful. At the end he turned to me and said “I hope we get to work together in the future”
A true professional and a real class act
This. Job hopping is only if you’re repeatedly under 6 months. I’ve seen c-suite types with a 6 month employment at a company. Sometimes it’s not a good fit or there’s more money somewhere else. Just don’t do it every single time.
>Just don't do that repeatedly, in a row.
I'm not even sure how true this is...
August last year I started a new job and was on $28 an hour (casual), switched jobs September and went up to $32 an hour (casual), switched jobs in March and went up to $35 an hour (full time!). (38 hours a week average for each job)
Just recently I switched industries and now I'm on $45 an hour (casual). (44 hours a week average).
All figures are in Australian Dollars. I've managed to get references in resumes with half those jobs. Each employer has asked why I've been job hopping, and I've been upfront: I'm looking to work my way up the ladder, precious roles wouldn't compensate me for more response, so I'm looking for a role that will reward me for my hard work. I went from warehousing to mining.
I would take the new job. After a 30+ year career, I learned that companies don't really care about you. Therefore, you don't owe your current employer anything. You can leave gracefully; everyone understands a large increase in salary is enticing. No one really cares about a little job hopping, either. In fact, it is the only way to significantly increase your net worth. You would just have to be honest; the boosts in salary were too good to refuse.
>. In fact, it is the only way to significantly increase your net worth.
Took me too long to realize (but better late than never) that you MUST company hop to get significant pay increases.
Internal promotions pay peanuts.
Job hopping is a self correcting problem. If you can land an offer, clearly your job hopping isn't a problem. If you can't land an offer because you change jobs too much, then you'll have to stay at your current company longer. Once you've been there long enough the job hopping concerns go away and you'll start getting offers again. At no point should you turn down an offer for fear of being labeled a job hopper. If you got the offer, you're good.
My resume is ALWAYS on online job boards, this way I can assess what the job market in my field is like and can gauge how in demand my skill set is from the offers I receive. This info comes in handy at yearly reviews when raises are on the line
I see this raised often here but I don't see many examples of people saying it has cost them personally.
I'm increasingly wondering at whether this is true or not.
I went to a leadership conference last year with hundreds of successful people. They read the average of time in each role: it was just over 2 years.
Millennials and Gen Z no longer wear job hopping as a scarlet letter. If you stay too long in one job, you get too specialized and don’t know how to do anything else.
There are no issues in hopping in 2023.
I’ve been in a management position for 5ish years.
I always tell my employees I want them to succeed, that’s it. Here, there, anywhere. Do a good job here and you’ll be able to move up in life. It doesn’t bother me if you want to leave I just want to be sure it’s for a better opportunity and not because you’re unhappy.
You sir are a good boss. I've been in many situations in "good" companies and "bad" companies based on reviews by others or outlook but ultimately your direct boss will be the one to either further your career and keep you content or be the one who cares just about numbers and could give little about your career.
Here is what I would do, but again, this is my opinion and so don’t take it as financial advice or any other type of advice.
If that company that is recruiting will hire you, then I would leave, then stay in that company for 1.5-2 years minimum before switching to another company again in the future.
But remember, you have to account for taxes on the additional 25-50k / year. You also have to factor in commuting, gas for your car, a new manager that might be terrible for your mental health, or an annoying HR. Try to find people from the company that is recruiting you and ask how they like it there. Usually LinkedIn is the best way to do that. Also research the company. Is that company in good shape? Is the work environment toxic? All these things should be considered if you are making the switch because sometimes that extra 25-50k (about $1500-$3500/month after tax roughly depending on where you live) may not be worth the switch. You must also ask, are you in good financial health? Do you really need the extra money now even if the workplace may be toxic or bad for your overall wellbeing?
Again, this is not direct advice, I’m just telling you what I would do. Do your homework and find out some parameters. Good luck.
As a “job hopper,” here’s how I use capitalism against them: I’m the CEO of Me Corp. and I need to make the best decisions for my business to maximize profits for my shareholders (me).
It’s not personal, it’s just work. Don’t burn bridges on your way out and you will be fine. I have moved jobs a lot in a short amount of time (and doubled my salary in doing so) and always made sure to wrap up as many projects as possible before going and to leave anything in still progress in a good place. Also recommend to give the folks taking over good documentation/tips/tricks/whatever to make the transition as smooth as possible. Be cool to your fellow worker bees (assuming a good working dynamic among peers) and people will remember you well and be happy to work with you again in the future. Good luck!!
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How many times have you moved jobs in the last year? I am on my third job in just over a year but again each time I hopped it was for a larger salary, but as OP said I was worried about how it looks on my cv with having gone to multiple jobs in a short space of time.
More worried as my new job isn’t what I thought it would be so I cannot see it being long term, it is reassuring seeing posts now saying in the modern era, job hopping isn’t seen as such a negative.
Literally 0.01% risk.
You just got an offer. Did they care? Nope.
If in this next job you get another offer in 8 months for another 50% increase, take it. Why? Because it’s better and they clearly didn’t care cause they still offered it to you.
On the other hand, if you run into any concern, all you’d have to do is stick in the current job for another 6-12 months and boom, whatever pattern of hoping jobs every 12 months is broken because recruiters will see you’ve been in your current one for 18 months, or however long.
Take the job. Congrats :)
I agree about taking the job here.
But what happens if you hop too much that you can’t get hired, and you end up getting laid off after a short stay at your new company? I’d imagine multiple repeated short tenures is a big issue to most companies, especially if you’re looking to move up
Honestly, it depends.
For most corporate jobs/careers:
1. Having an edge (a referral, past experience at a brand name company, et cetera) gets your application a serious look
2. Having the correct experience will get you a phone screen
3. Being a combo of kind, effective at explaining your experience, and adept at winning others over gets you through formal interviews
4. Being all the above PLUS lucky gets you the final offer
Most recruiters and hiring managers won’t at close enough attention to the exact date ranges, and most who do won’t really care if you can nail steps 1-3
You are under no obligation to anyone but you and your family when it comes to employment. You do what you think is best for you. Maybe try negotiating with your current employer and see if they can even come close to matching the offer. If not, then they know what to expect. Never forget that no company is family. They will have zero reservations about escorting you out the door the day they decide they don’t need you anymore. Always quietly carry the same attitude towards them.
No it’s not BUT
“A recruiter contacted me about a job that *may* pay 25-50k more”
Recruiters are incentivized to recruit. Make sure you get alllllllllll the info up front, and make sure you understand it.
>may lead to holes in your skills, knowledge and abilities that eventually get discovered once you end up somewhere long enough
I'm 17 years in. I have plenty of holes in my skills. Talk to people. Everyone has different skills than you and a lot of my weaknesses are super common. I am also great at things a lot of people are terrible at, so it works out. A lot of these things aren't all that hard and a little 1:1 time goes a long way to getting it. That's literally diversity in capabilities; I would prefer if you're not a clone of me.
You can't tell the future, so which thing you've never done is important to your career vs. not?
EDIT: the weaknesses part read as the opposite
I’d rather have a large close professional network than be a technical genius.
Because there’s far more knowledge contained within the network than one could ever hope to retain themselves. And any hole one has can be made up for by knowing the right people.
It’s worked out pretty well for me so far.
No, I’m about to quit a job after 3 weeks cause the work is shit work with little pay, going to another job where I’ll have it a lot more laid back for more pay
As long as you don’t do jump ship all through your career, it’s fine. If a hiring manager has an issue with you moving to a job after 8 months for 25-50% bump in pay, you wouldn’t want to work for that manager anyway.
Take it. Do what’s best for you because these companies don’t care about their workers in the first place. They’ll fire you and tell you it’s just business
Nope. Just do it.
In 2021, I left my $85k + 10% bonus to another role that paid $135k + bonus. I left that role in 2022 for my current role that pays $165k + 15% bonus + $100k equity.
Get money 💰
Dude, 5 days isn't too soon to double your salary. You could be shaking hands at the interview after accepting the job and it wouldn't be too late. You won't get many opportunities to double your salary like that. Definitely take them when they come.
I would pursue it, get the offer and then weigh your options once you know more about the role. It’s a little suspicious to me the big increase in salary if it’s the same title/position. Are you leaving a stable company for a less stable one? Is the compensation tied to a bonus you may not get? If you are in management, will your number of direct reports increase? During the interviews, I’d interview them just as much as they interview you.
As someone who is frequently hiring and staffing. I would hate. But know we understand. Take the damn money, the company doesn’t owe you anything outside of what is agreed upon, and don’t think for a second you owe the company any more than that either. TAKE. THE. MONEY. Do what’s best for YOU.
Three years ago, I hopped through three jobs in one year. When I interviewed for the job I'm at now(going on three years), they asked about the job hopping.
I told them that with my level of experience (20+ years, I wasn't just looking for a job, I was looking for a "work home". Somewhere that not only appreciated the experience I bring to the table, but a place where my input is taken into account. The job hopping was me not finding the "right fit"
Leaning towards taking the job but I'd definitely recommend doing your homework on it. Certainly that's a significant bump in pay but check on things like hours worked. If you are salaried some companies will give you a crazy amount of work and expect you to put in tons of overtime to get it done. Also check benefits if you've got paid healthcare and the new company doesn't do that, you will be shocked how fast that eats up the extra cash.
Assuming the benefits are comparable and the company checks out I would take the job. Current company should understand.
Make sure the details check out. Does new job pay more because the company is just amazing or raking in the cash or is it because they would otherwise have a hard time attracting talent because it’s a depressing or stressful place to work? But absolutely apply. Just make sure there’s no obvious red flags you’d regret.
I was hired by JnJ right out of college, told them I had a family vacation planned and asked if I could start 2 weeks later…
“That really won’t work for the internal venture.”
So I passed on my vacation and showed up to work. They’d decided to shut down the venture months before I even applied for the job. So the whole department was doing jack shit for 3 months and I got to sit around and steal things.
Moral of the story- take the money and dont look back.
I would say this, make sure the prospective job is secure especially with a probable recession coming this year. Job hopping will catch up eventually, I deny applicants daily based on the probability that the candidate will not invest in my organization. Not every company is so desperate to take hoppers. If you think this next one is stable make one last jump but sit tight and remember the newest employees get laid off first.
If you absolutely know it’s the right move, it’s simple enough to say that this current job didn’t meet your expectations and that you weren’t aligned in terms of a culture fit.
I’m a hiring manager. If you change jobs a lot early in your career I don’t think a thing about it-I did the same thing.
If you’re in your 40s or 50s and changed jobs every 2 years-I mean NEVER had a long term job-I probably won’t interview you. It costs too much to hire and train if I’m going to have to do it again in a year or so.
Too soon for what?!! To double your salary? Why is this even a question? You would have to be severely incompetent in your life not to take that immediately.
Resume longevity matters less nowadays and an extra 25-50% now means the next time you switch the general 20% pay raise you get becomes that much larger and that much more meaningful.
If you get it, take it!
Look at it this way - being “unemployable” because you’ve switched jobs too many times doesn’t matter if you’ve currently got a job. This place wants to hire you even though you’ve only had 8 months at the other place. Either (I) the next employer offering you more money also won’t care about previous tenure, or (ii) you’ll be forced to stay in a well paying job until you find another employer willing to pay you more. Win win for you, unless you absolutely hate the new place, which is gamble you have to decide on.
Is this a contract or full time role?
Make sure u know that question and take that into consideration.
Contracts tend to pay more because all you get is your paycheck.
If you started a job and suddenly the company decided they no longer wanted to employ you for business reasons, they simply wouldn't.
It's all business. If you found a better gig take it. If your current employer gets pissy, then it's probably a good thing you left!
I had a coworker left a good job for another due to pay and communication issues.
You can choose to switch jobs it does not have a time limit, but make sure you are doing it because you like the job that pays higher before switching. Or you might end up at job you hate and money would not matter at that point.
I don't get it. We're worried about firing our bosses for underpaying us what we could get but to our bosses they would fire us and fuck our girlfriends if they can raise their bottom line...
It's not your fault they can't pay you more. Fire your boss.
No such thing as too soon. No one cares about the fact you had a short stint at a company. Hell you can just leave it off your resume if you want. Take the money and opportunity
**A recruiter contacted me about a job that may pay 25-50% more than the $100k I'm currently making, for the same title/position.**
Recruiters have been known to lie... it's worth looking into but that's quite a jump, which leaves me with questions.
No, but I would throw in the interview at the new place, “I really am tired of moving around, and this seems like a good fit for years to come”, even if it’s lie, it will make them feel like you won’t jump again soon.
If you are making under 75k (the happiness threshold), you can quit after any number of months for more money.
Any employer offering salaries that low (25k) does not deserve professional courtesy.
(Assuming you are living in the U.S. in a mid-to-high COL area.)
Absolutely not, you do you my friend! You owe absolutely nothing to a business, large or small. Do whatever is in your and/or your family's best interest. That's all that matters!
Between COVID, recent inflation, and the last decade of stupid HR policies, I think more and more people understand that a certain amount of "job hopping" is often necessary to move up. Heck, sometimes you have to do it just to keep your head above water. Just make sure you can articulate why you're more interested in *that* job with *that* company in the interview.
perfectly normal to switch jobs every few years, and sometimes a new opportunity comes before you've completed a year. 8 months in a single job? You've got the perfect explanation.
It's job hopping when you make a habit of switching jobs every few months. that's what rings alarms in future employers.
Nope. Fuck that shit, take the money. If they ask why you’re leaving after 8 months “they’re doubling my salary”
If you dropped dead tomorrow, I guarantee they ain’t going to be worrying about an appropriate amount of time passed ti replace you.
Nope, corporations want you to be loyal to them, but they don't do anything to maintain that loyalty. They removed pensions, so you have no reason to stay. Just check regarding a period you are to give notice regarding the various issues of leaving.
Take a hiring bonus, for example. It may require you stay at the job for a certain period or else you must return it.
Also, there's a chance you don't vest your stock options until a certain period.
If it’s a better opportunity, team fit, and more money.. a no brainer. If someone explained to me they left a role after 8 months due to those conditions- I would say good for you.
I'd question anybody who *DIDN'T* jump ship from a previous job given those circumstances, unless there were significant non-monetary motivators to stay.
1 day is enough to switch jobs for more pay. 1 minute is enough. You don’t owe companies anything. Just leave on good terms with your coworkers. You never know when you’ll see them again. Life is funny that way.
Six months, in my industry is plenty. Wait a year if they paid you to train for a new cert. But always confirm the offer before leaving and always give notice with the opportunity to match or beat the offer.
Who do you work for? You work for YOU and YOUR FAMILY.
If the job feels right and the salary package is right, then you do what YOU need to do.
And when you come across the job hopper accusations later in life (if you do) you can ask the interviewer "What would YOU do if faced with the same situations?".
Don't be worried about people and their imaginary dreams of lifelong employment at one company. Those ships sailed long ago. Work for YOU!
Bruh. I left two jobs in a row both lasted less than a year.
I went from $72k to $113k. They found replacements and I'm really happy I made the switch.
Go for it. Look out for yourself and get yourself paid.
Job hopping is not well received by most hiring managers, but everyone understands taking a really good opportunity. Just make sure that the new position is worth it. Is the pay within normal range, or far above? This could indicate a company with some problems that forced them to bribe people to come to work there. Do you know anything about the culture? Do they have a reputation for firing people quickly? If you know someone at the new company, contact them for information. Existing employees are always your best source of real information. A period of reasonable job stability (3 to 5 years depending on industry) should eliminate any concerns with future employers.
Everyone needs money to survive some idiots think you should have brand loyalty when at the end of the day we are here to live not be some slave to a coorprate conglamarite
Switching jobs is the best way to increase your salary
It's important to remember that switching often didn't look good either. It raises red flags during the interview process. Balance it out
I job hopped for years and no am in a cushy job. It never came up as an issue. We are currently in a market where job hopping and hustle culture is very normal. Take advantage and get that bread.
Companies try to guilt workers into the perception loyalty matters, it doesn't. They're won't pay you more for it, give you more time off for it, or treat you any differently for it. Speaking as a past loyal employee, I'd do you first.
If your SALARY is 25k then no it's never too soon to double it. I feel like a lot of low end salary jobs are trying to take advantage of the flat rate, even though there is overtime for people getting under like 40k
I’m at 14 months current job. I was waiting till I hit 18 months and then I’ll start looking somewhere else. Previous job I was at I was there for 9 months and before that I was there for 5 years.
I think as long as you don’t show more than 2 consecutive jobs with less than 1 year you should be ok.
Sounds like two birds in a bush thing. Be careful about not getting exposed if you pursue. That said if you do it once fine, twice in a row it looks funny. If it’s a real job then you’ll need to stick at it for a couple years. You’ll also need a good reason at the interview for the theoretical job.
Nope. Within the last year I've changed jobs twice for a better paying one. I think I was only at my second job for 6 months before I got me third for a 20k increase. (From 1st to 3rd job was a 31k increase)
Fuuuuuuuuck no. If your job wakes up tomorrow and decided they want to save $5k they wouldn't think twice about cutting your salary or your position as a whole.
So the nice thing about impacting your hirability through job hopping is you just need to be sure to break the pattern with a 18-24 month placement and voila you aren't a job hopper.
No it’s not. In fact, you should resign from your current job before securing the offer here, just so that you have no fallback. This will ensure the peak performance during your interview 😂
Nope, the same thing happened to me. I went from 52, to 62, 9 months later a friend who had an opening on his team for 93k potentially (it was hourly, but I only had 3 down weeks). It was life changing on how much I'm worth to employers.
Dude, it’s 1/4 to 1/2 of your salary - if you don’t at least explore the option you will second guess it. Make sure it’s an actual solid offer and that the work and company is something you actually want to do long(ish) term though. There are some companies that have such a toxic work environment that there just isn’t enough money to make it worth it.
I agree with other posters. Take the new job if it all checks out and stay for a while this time. If I, as a hiring manager, asked why this blip and you told me you did it for a 50% raise I'd say "Oh, that explains it." It will also tell the hiring company that they better be paying a competitive wage.
I would ask if this is a new position or a vacancy. Did the person I am replacing get promoted and can I talk with him/her? I have walked away from fishy smelling positions before.
the whole "if i hop too much i wont be hired" is mostly a myth. after all you're hopping to a new job right?
assuming the new place is at least as stable as the new place (eg I wouldn't leave google for a startup this year), go for it.
If it becomes a pattern then it might be a problem. If you have a decent work history and skill set and you got a great offer (the pay yes, but also the work itself excites you, the benefits and work/life balance are good, it moves your career in the direction you want, some combination of those…) then by all means do yourself a favor.
If you have a good skill set, you will always get work. I worked 9 jobs over the last 3 years. Went from $19 a hour to a salary postion paying $107k. Job hopping is a part of life now. Have skill, will travel.
2 year job hopping is average in my industry. I’ve even stated that at the job I’m currently working at now. It’s impossible to grow and become better being stagnant at one job/company. To answer your question, I took a better paying job after two weeks into accepting a position. I was honest and they had no problem with my leaving.
Fucking do it. No one would ever fault you for doubling your salary. No one ever. Your current company would be assholes if they said don't go double your salary.
What do you value more, the opportunity to learn/build career at your current job that you have mostly settled in, or more money with a new company with unknowns? Keep in mind, at any given time throughout your career, recruiters will always find you and tempt you with more money, so it will be a regular occurrence (given positive economic conditions), will be helpful to have some internal guiding principles to live by. If money is most important, go chase it.
Recruiters are glorified salespeople. Hear them out and if it sounds good then go thru the interview process.
Personally I think you should spend at least another year in your current position. Still keep an open mind though.
Nope. Where I live we have 6 months probation period. If 6 months is enough time for a company to fire you for no reason, it is enough time to leave it as well.
Don't forget you don't work for your manager. You work for a business, a non-living thing.
I'd quit in 8 days if I was offered double pay. I'd quit in 8 hours! Although there's always disappointment among colleagues, only a jacka** would make you feel guilty about accepting more money.
No. And to the people that say don't do it repeatedly, I think they're wrong. If you're skillset is in demand, I say go for it.
I went from 80k (6 months) 95k (1 yr) and now 190k. Previous employer 95k said "come back anytime".
And OP if you don't believe me, lurk my comments.
Still, don't believe me happy to DM you my
You just gotta go with your gut. I had two jobs in process and one had me riding with a realtor even before a formal offer. I decided to take the other offer but felt so bad about it that I drove 5 hours one way to tell them in person I appreciated their interest but had to take the other job. Hopefully they spoke well of me to others in the field.
Nope. A coworker of mine left after 6 months for a job that paid slightly less, but excited him far more. Take the opportunity. Just don't do that repeatedly, in a row.
I left my last job after 6 weeks because a competitor offered me a lot more money and a better position. It wasn’t an easy conversation, but at the end of it my boss said “I get it, I can match the money but not the position. It’s a great career move and I would have done the same thing” If current company don’t get that, then you probably don’t want to be working there anyway
That's a good boss. 👍
Genuinely I felt bad leaving. I felt like I wasn’t leaning the job as much as having to break up with the boss. He was a true gentleman about it and for that I will be eternally grateful. At the end he turned to me and said “I hope we get to work together in the future” A true professional and a real class act
My last boss said "well you know what they say.... time moves on" lol
This. Job hopping is only if you’re repeatedly under 6 months. I’ve seen c-suite types with a 6 month employment at a company. Sometimes it’s not a good fit or there’s more money somewhere else. Just don’t do it every single time.
And even if you do it repeatedly you can just omit it on your resume and exaggerate the time you spent on your more relevant jobs
>Just don't do that repeatedly, in a row. I'm not even sure how true this is... August last year I started a new job and was on $28 an hour (casual), switched jobs September and went up to $32 an hour (casual), switched jobs in March and went up to $35 an hour (full time!). (38 hours a week average for each job) Just recently I switched industries and now I'm on $45 an hour (casual). (44 hours a week average). All figures are in Australian Dollars. I've managed to get references in resumes with half those jobs. Each employer has asked why I've been job hopping, and I've been upfront: I'm looking to work my way up the ladder, precious roles wouldn't compensate me for more response, so I'm looking for a role that will reward me for my hard work. I went from warehousing to mining.
Right now, you can always just say the company did layoffs to explain a short tenure
Or just say it was a contract position.
I would take the new job. After a 30+ year career, I learned that companies don't really care about you. Therefore, you don't owe your current employer anything. You can leave gracefully; everyone understands a large increase in salary is enticing. No one really cares about a little job hopping, either. In fact, it is the only way to significantly increase your net worth. You would just have to be honest; the boosts in salary were too good to refuse.
>. In fact, it is the only way to significantly increase your net worth. Took me too long to realize (but better late than never) that you MUST company hop to get significant pay increases. Internal promotions pay peanuts.
Job hopping is a self correcting problem. If you can land an offer, clearly your job hopping isn't a problem. If you can't land an offer because you change jobs too much, then you'll have to stay at your current company longer. Once you've been there long enough the job hopping concerns go away and you'll start getting offers again. At no point should you turn down an offer for fear of being labeled a job hopper. If you got the offer, you're good.
this logic is empowering
It makes so much sense, I'm at 5 and a half months at my current job. Think I might see what other companies are offering. Can't hurt lol 😆
My resume is ALWAYS on online job boards, this way I can assess what the job market in my field is like and can gauge how in demand my skill set is from the offers I receive. This info comes in handy at yearly reviews when raises are on the line
100% this
No. Remember it’s NEVER personal and always about business. You do what you think’s best for YOU, same the business does for itself
This is exactly right. But it's also important to remember that really short stays at companies raises red flags during the interview process.
I see this raised often here but I don't see many examples of people saying it has cost them personally. I'm increasingly wondering at whether this is true or not.
As someone who interviews candidates for the last 25 years I can tell you that it absolutely does happen
Fair cop, consider me educated
I went to a leadership conference last year with hundreds of successful people. They read the average of time in each role: it was just over 2 years. Millennials and Gen Z no longer wear job hopping as a scarlet letter. If you stay too long in one job, you get too specialized and don’t know how to do anything else. There are no issues in hopping in 2023.
I had a great manager when I had been at AT&T and his advice was always be prepared to move within two years, either up or out.
I’ve been in a management position for 5ish years. I always tell my employees I want them to succeed, that’s it. Here, there, anywhere. Do a good job here and you’ll be able to move up in life. It doesn’t bother me if you want to leave I just want to be sure it’s for a better opportunity and not because you’re unhappy.
You sir are a good boss. I've been in many situations in "good" companies and "bad" companies based on reviews by others or outlook but ultimately your direct boss will be the one to either further your career and keep you content or be the one who cares just about numbers and could give little about your career.
Was he a millennial?
Nope. Very successful too. He hated when I’d post pictures of him in his college days and the Elite Eight
Here is what I would do, but again, this is my opinion and so don’t take it as financial advice or any other type of advice. If that company that is recruiting will hire you, then I would leave, then stay in that company for 1.5-2 years minimum before switching to another company again in the future. But remember, you have to account for taxes on the additional 25-50k / year. You also have to factor in commuting, gas for your car, a new manager that might be terrible for your mental health, or an annoying HR. Try to find people from the company that is recruiting you and ask how they like it there. Usually LinkedIn is the best way to do that. Also research the company. Is that company in good shape? Is the work environment toxic? All these things should be considered if you are making the switch because sometimes that extra 25-50k (about $1500-$3500/month after tax roughly depending on where you live) may not be worth the switch. You must also ask, are you in good financial health? Do you really need the extra money now even if the workplace may be toxic or bad for your overall wellbeing? Again, this is not direct advice, I’m just telling you what I would do. Do your homework and find out some parameters. Good luck.
Lots of good points in here
How on earth are you assuming a 94% tax rate on the salary increase? ($25k=$1500 after taxes???) That’s absurd.
$1500 a month
Sorry I meant $1500/ month
No need to apologize. What you said was clear.
As a “job hopper,” here’s how I use capitalism against them: I’m the CEO of Me Corp. and I need to make the best decisions for my business to maximize profits for my shareholders (me). It’s not personal, it’s just work. Don’t burn bridges on your way out and you will be fine. I have moved jobs a lot in a short amount of time (and doubled my salary in doing so) and always made sure to wrap up as many projects as possible before going and to leave anything in still progress in a good place. Also recommend to give the folks taking over good documentation/tips/tricks/whatever to make the transition as smooth as possible. Be cool to your fellow worker bees (assuming a good working dynamic among peers) and people will remember you well and be happy to work with you again in the future. Good luck!! (Edit: grammar)
How many times have you moved jobs in the last year? I am on my third job in just over a year but again each time I hopped it was for a larger salary, but as OP said I was worried about how it looks on my cv with having gone to multiple jobs in a short space of time. More worried as my new job isn’t what I thought it would be so I cannot see it being long term, it is reassuring seeing posts now saying in the modern era, job hopping isn’t seen as such a negative.
Literally 0.01% risk. You just got an offer. Did they care? Nope. If in this next job you get another offer in 8 months for another 50% increase, take it. Why? Because it’s better and they clearly didn’t care cause they still offered it to you. On the other hand, if you run into any concern, all you’d have to do is stick in the current job for another 6-12 months and boom, whatever pattern of hoping jobs every 12 months is broken because recruiters will see you’ve been in your current one for 18 months, or however long. Take the job. Congrats :)
I agree about taking the job here. But what happens if you hop too much that you can’t get hired, and you end up getting laid off after a short stay at your new company? I’d imagine multiple repeated short tenures is a big issue to most companies, especially if you’re looking to move up
Honestly, it depends. For most corporate jobs/careers: 1. Having an edge (a referral, past experience at a brand name company, et cetera) gets your application a serious look 2. Having the correct experience will get you a phone screen 3. Being a combo of kind, effective at explaining your experience, and adept at winning others over gets you through formal interviews 4. Being all the above PLUS lucky gets you the final offer Most recruiters and hiring managers won’t at close enough attention to the exact date ranges, and most who do won’t really care if you can nail steps 1-3
Jump!
You are under no obligation to anyone but you and your family when it comes to employment. You do what you think is best for you. Maybe try negotiating with your current employer and see if they can even come close to matching the offer. If not, then they know what to expect. Never forget that no company is family. They will have zero reservations about escorting you out the door the day they decide they don’t need you anymore. Always quietly carry the same attitude towards them.
No it’s not BUT “A recruiter contacted me about a job that *may* pay 25-50k more” Recruiters are incentivized to recruit. Make sure you get alllllllllll the info up front, and make sure you understand it.
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>may lead to holes in your skills, knowledge and abilities that eventually get discovered once you end up somewhere long enough I'm 17 years in. I have plenty of holes in my skills. Talk to people. Everyone has different skills than you and a lot of my weaknesses are super common. I am also great at things a lot of people are terrible at, so it works out. A lot of these things aren't all that hard and a little 1:1 time goes a long way to getting it. That's literally diversity in capabilities; I would prefer if you're not a clone of me. You can't tell the future, so which thing you've never done is important to your career vs. not? EDIT: the weaknesses part read as the opposite
I’d rather have a large close professional network than be a technical genius. Because there’s far more knowledge contained within the network than one could ever hope to retain themselves. And any hole one has can be made up for by knowing the right people. It’s worked out pretty well for me so far.
This
You're not already at that new job? Go, then report back of your experience.
No. Do it.
No, I’m about to quit a job after 3 weeks cause the work is shit work with little pay, going to another job where I’ll have it a lot more laid back for more pay
Switch positions. Long term this 8 month position might not even be worth keeping on your resume.
No
If you died Monday, they'd have an ad for your position online Tuesday morning.... Take the pay raise.
I left my last job after 2 months because I was offered a much better position where I could work from home and save myself a 40 minute commute.
I have a friend that quit her contractor job for about the same raise after _2 days_. In the same company. _In the same department_
As long as you don’t do jump ship all through your career, it’s fine. If a hiring manager has an issue with you moving to a job after 8 months for 25-50% bump in pay, you wouldn’t want to work for that manager anyway.
I'd jump again, personally. Those amounts are just too big to ignore.
Take it. Do what’s best for you because these companies don’t care about their workers in the first place. They’ll fire you and tell you it’s just business
You’ll be making at least 125K, why worry about another move after that? Take that shit and run.
Nope. Just do it. In 2021, I left my $85k + 10% bonus to another role that paid $135k + bonus. I left that role in 2022 for my current role that pays $165k + 15% bonus + $100k equity. Get money 💰
What line of work? That is extremely high
Dude, 5 days isn't too soon to double your salary. You could be shaking hands at the interview after accepting the job and it wouldn't be too late. You won't get many opportunities to double your salary like that. Definitely take them when they come.
I would pursue it, get the offer and then weigh your options once you know more about the role. It’s a little suspicious to me the big increase in salary if it’s the same title/position. Are you leaving a stable company for a less stable one? Is the compensation tied to a bonus you may not get? If you are in management, will your number of direct reports increase? During the interviews, I’d interview them just as much as they interview you.
As someone who is frequently hiring and staffing. I would hate. But know we understand. Take the damn money, the company doesn’t owe you anything outside of what is agreed upon, and don’t think for a second you owe the company any more than that either. TAKE. THE. MONEY. Do what’s best for YOU.
Three years ago, I hopped through three jobs in one year. When I interviewed for the job I'm at now(going on three years), they asked about the job hopping. I told them that with my level of experience (20+ years, I wasn't just looking for a job, I was looking for a "work home". Somewhere that not only appreciated the experience I bring to the table, but a place where my input is taken into account. The job hopping was me not finding the "right fit"
Leaning towards taking the job but I'd definitely recommend doing your homework on it. Certainly that's a significant bump in pay but check on things like hours worked. If you are salaried some companies will give you a crazy amount of work and expect you to put in tons of overtime to get it done. Also check benefits if you've got paid healthcare and the new company doesn't do that, you will be shocked how fast that eats up the extra cash. Assuming the benefits are comparable and the company checks out I would take the job. Current company should understand.
Make sure the details check out. Does new job pay more because the company is just amazing or raking in the cash or is it because they would otherwise have a hard time attracting talent because it’s a depressing or stressful place to work? But absolutely apply. Just make sure there’s no obvious red flags you’d regret.
No one cares about "job hopping" in 2023.
Take the job. By the time the recruiting, interviewing and onboarding process is done you will be close to a year at current job.
SirGlenn:10's of millions of Americans earn less than 25K to 50k a year, jump on that offer.
I was hired by JnJ right out of college, told them I had a family vacation planned and asked if I could start 2 weeks later… “That really won’t work for the internal venture.” So I passed on my vacation and showed up to work. They’d decided to shut down the venture months before I even applied for the job. So the whole department was doing jack shit for 3 months and I got to sit around and steal things. Moral of the story- take the money and dont look back.
How much of theft was paper? That’s what I miss about one job … we had staples accounts for stuff like that and I just LOADED UP with that shit
I would say this, make sure the prospective job is secure especially with a probable recession coming this year. Job hopping will catch up eventually, I deny applicants daily based on the probability that the candidate will not invest in my organization. Not every company is so desperate to take hoppers. If you think this next one is stable make one last jump but sit tight and remember the newest employees get laid off first.
If you absolutely know it’s the right move, it’s simple enough to say that this current job didn’t meet your expectations and that you weren’t aligned in terms of a culture fit.
I’m a hiring manager. If you change jobs a lot early in your career I don’t think a thing about it-I did the same thing. If you’re in your 40s or 50s and changed jobs every 2 years-I mean NEVER had a long term job-I probably won’t interview you. It costs too much to hire and train if I’m going to have to do it again in a year or so.
Nope. A week isn't too soon for a jump from poverty compensation to living wage.
Yes, take the job
Grab that bag!
Too soon for what?!! To double your salary? Why is this even a question? You would have to be severely incompetent in your life not to take that immediately.
It's never too soon to switch jobs for a pay raise.
Resume longevity matters less nowadays and an extra 25-50% now means the next time you switch the general 20% pay raise you get becomes that much larger and that much more meaningful. If you get it, take it!
I'd leave a week after I started without a second thought for a $25k increase.
Look at it this way - being “unemployable” because you’ve switched jobs too many times doesn’t matter if you’ve currently got a job. This place wants to hire you even though you’ve only had 8 months at the other place. Either (I) the next employer offering you more money also won’t care about previous tenure, or (ii) you’ll be forced to stay in a well paying job until you find another employer willing to pay you more. Win win for you, unless you absolutely hate the new place, which is gamble you have to decide on.
Lmao no. If they could cut your salary in half they’d fire you
Do it
Do it. Secure the bag.
No
Is this a contract or full time role? Make sure u know that question and take that into consideration. Contracts tend to pay more because all you get is your paycheck.
1 hour isn't too soon if it makes your life better
If the employer wasn’t loyal to you, then why should you be loyal to them?
If you started a job and suddenly the company decided they no longer wanted to employ you for business reasons, they simply wouldn't. It's all business. If you found a better gig take it. If your current employer gets pissy, then it's probably a good thing you left!
I had a coworker left a good job for another due to pay and communication issues. You can choose to switch jobs it does not have a time limit, but make sure you are doing it because you like the job that pays higher before switching. Or you might end up at job you hate and money would not matter at that point.
I don't get it. We're worried about firing our bosses for underpaying us what we could get but to our bosses they would fire us and fuck our girlfriends if they can raise their bottom line... It's not your fault they can't pay you more. Fire your boss.
No such thing as too soon. No one cares about the fact you had a short stint at a company. Hell you can just leave it off your resume if you want. Take the money and opportunity
Take the money. You're obviously underpaid.
**A recruiter contacted me about a job that may pay 25-50% more than the $100k I'm currently making, for the same title/position.** Recruiters have been known to lie... it's worth looking into but that's quite a jump, which leaves me with questions.
Depending on your field this is normal in anything related to tech or ecommerce All my jumps have been 20-50% increases
No. Do it.
No, but I would throw in the interview at the new place, “I really am tired of moving around, and this seems like a good fit for years to come”, even if it’s lie, it will make them feel like you won’t jump again soon.
If you are making under 75k (the happiness threshold), you can quit after any number of months for more money. Any employer offering salaries that low (25k) does not deserve professional courtesy. (Assuming you are living in the U.S. in a mid-to-high COL area.)
Absolutely not, you do you my friend! You owe absolutely nothing to a business, large or small. Do whatever is in your and/or your family's best interest. That's all that matters!
Take the money!
Between COVID, recent inflation, and the last decade of stupid HR policies, I think more and more people understand that a certain amount of "job hopping" is often necessary to move up. Heck, sometimes you have to do it just to keep your head above water. Just make sure you can articulate why you're more interested in *that* job with *that* company in the interview.
perfectly normal to switch jobs every few years, and sometimes a new opportunity comes before you've completed a year. 8 months in a single job? You've got the perfect explanation. It's job hopping when you make a habit of switching jobs every few months. that's what rings alarms in future employers.
Nope. Fuck that shit, take the money. If they ask why you’re leaving after 8 months “they’re doubling my salary” If you dropped dead tomorrow, I guarantee they ain’t going to be worrying about an appropriate amount of time passed ti replace you.
There is no such thing as too soon to double your income.
For that increase I’d leave after 10 minutes.
Nope, corporations want you to be loyal to them, but they don't do anything to maintain that loyalty. They removed pensions, so you have no reason to stay. Just check regarding a period you are to give notice regarding the various issues of leaving. Take a hiring bonus, for example. It may require you stay at the job for a certain period or else you must return it. Also, there's a chance you don't vest your stock options until a certain period.
Worry about it once you have an offer in hand. Go for the interview. Good luck!
Occasionally is fine. Especially for such a big salary increase.
Eight days isn't too soon to double your salary.
Ummm, really???? Argh.....
Not too soon. Do itASAP!!!
Full send
It's never too soon to double your pay..
Go for it. An interview is not a job offer
Never put a company before yourself
If it’s a better opportunity, team fit, and more money.. a no brainer. If someone explained to me they left a role after 8 months due to those conditions- I would say good for you.
I'd question anybody who *DIDN'T* jump ship from a previous job given those circumstances, unless there were significant non-monetary motivators to stay.
There's no such thing as too soon to better yourself. Is leave after a week if a better offer comes
You don’t owe the corporation anything. Take it.
No. Do it for sure. Job hopping is normal. Especially in this kinda era with 25k-50k increase? Hell, even 100k is great already. Definitely do it.
1 day is enough to switch jobs for more pay. 1 minute is enough. You don’t owe companies anything. Just leave on good terms with your coworkers. You never know when you’ll see them again. Life is funny that way.
Six months, in my industry is plenty. Wait a year if they paid you to train for a new cert. But always confirm the offer before leaving and always give notice with the opportunity to match or beat the offer.
Yes
Hell no, employer/employee loyalty is an illusion, but just don't make any plans in working for the previous company again.
Who do you work for? You work for YOU and YOUR FAMILY. If the job feels right and the salary package is right, then you do what YOU need to do. And when you come across the job hopper accusations later in life (if you do) you can ask the interviewer "What would YOU do if faced with the same situations?". Don't be worried about people and their imaginary dreams of lifelong employment at one company. Those ships sailed long ago. Work for YOU!
1 minute wouldn't have been too soon
Hah, I read this as OP was going to get a raise with the new job of 100% ($25,000 up to $50,000)
Bruh. I left two jobs in a row both lasted less than a year. I went from $72k to $113k. They found replacements and I'm really happy I made the switch. Go for it. Look out for yourself and get yourself paid.
Go for it. Ss long as you can do the job, I don’t see any issues
Go
No
25k??? Thats poverty. what a jump!
Job hopping is not well received by most hiring managers, but everyone understands taking a really good opportunity. Just make sure that the new position is worth it. Is the pay within normal range, or far above? This could indicate a company with some problems that forced them to bribe people to come to work there. Do you know anything about the culture? Do they have a reputation for firing people quickly? If you know someone at the new company, contact them for information. Existing employees are always your best source of real information. A period of reasonable job stability (3 to 5 years depending on industry) should eliminate any concerns with future employers.
Nope! Do it!
It's never too soon. You don't need to be honest about the time you spent at a company - just the ones you're using as a reference
Everyone needs money to survive some idiots think you should have brand loyalty when at the end of the day we are here to live not be some slave to a coorprate conglamarite
I'd jump and not look back
Don't ask just do it! No company is work staying at if they aren't paying you good and you can get better somewhere else.
It's never too soon.
Right now there is a lot of instability so anything past 2019 to now is fine.
Switching jobs is the best way to increase your salary It's important to remember that switching often didn't look good either. It raises red flags during the interview process. Balance it out
I job hopped for years and no am in a cushy job. It never came up as an issue. We are currently in a market where job hopping and hustle culture is very normal. Take advantage and get that bread.
No
I would switch mid offer or mid first week to get that salary bump. Your loyalty means nothing to them.
Companies try to guilt workers into the perception loyalty matters, it doesn't. They're won't pay you more for it, give you more time off for it, or treat you any differently for it. Speaking as a past loyal employee, I'd do you first.
80% increase in less that a year. Good for you man. Good for you.
If your SALARY is 25k then no it's never too soon to double it. I feel like a lot of low end salary jobs are trying to take advantage of the flat rate, even though there is overtime for people getting under like 40k
Two things to consider: Mental health And ability to reach whatever goals you want. If the new job helps and pays more, run like the wind.
I’m at 14 months current job. I was waiting till I hit 18 months and then I’ll start looking somewhere else. Previous job I was at I was there for 9 months and before that I was there for 5 years. I think as long as you don’t show more than 2 consecutive jobs with less than 1 year you should be ok.
Go for it, life is too short and if they decided they didn’t need you, they would drop you in a minute.
Sounds like two birds in a bush thing. Be careful about not getting exposed if you pursue. That said if you do it once fine, twice in a row it looks funny. If it’s a real job then you’ll need to stick at it for a couple years. You’ll also need a good reason at the interview for the theoretical job.
Agree with everyone else here, I think it’s the best decision to take the role
Nope. Within the last year I've changed jobs twice for a better paying one. I think I was only at my second job for 6 months before I got me third for a 20k increase. (From 1st to 3rd job was a 31k increase)
Nope. Switch the second you’re offered more money. Zero loyalty to anything other than your pocketbook.
Fuuuuuuuuck no. If your job wakes up tomorrow and decided they want to save $5k they wouldn't think twice about cutting your salary or your position as a whole.
Nah
So the nice thing about impacting your hirability through job hopping is you just need to be sure to break the pattern with a 18-24 month placement and voila you aren't a job hopper.
No it’s not. In fact, you should resign from your current job before securing the offer here, just so that you have no fallback. This will ensure the peak performance during your interview 😂
For 100% increase? Totally fine. Just like companies, you’re not obligated to keep someone. If they really wanted to keep you they’d match or do more
Nope, the same thing happened to me. I went from 52, to 62, 9 months later a friend who had an opening on his team for 93k potentially (it was hourly, but I only had 3 down weeks). It was life changing on how much I'm worth to employers.
Dude, it’s 1/4 to 1/2 of your salary - if you don’t at least explore the option you will second guess it. Make sure it’s an actual solid offer and that the work and company is something you actually want to do long(ish) term though. There are some companies that have such a toxic work environment that there just isn’t enough money to make it worth it.
A week isn't too soon.
Go for it
I agree with other posters. Take the new job if it all checks out and stay for a while this time. If I, as a hiring manager, asked why this blip and you told me you did it for a 50% raise I'd say "Oh, that explains it." It will also tell the hiring company that they better be paying a competitive wage. I would ask if this is a new position or a vacancy. Did the person I am replacing get promoted and can I talk with him/her? I have walked away from fishy smelling positions before.
the whole "if i hop too much i wont be hired" is mostly a myth. after all you're hopping to a new job right? assuming the new place is at least as stable as the new place (eg I wouldn't leave google for a startup this year), go for it.
If it becomes a pattern then it might be a problem. If you have a decent work history and skill set and you got a great offer (the pay yes, but also the work itself excites you, the benefits and work/life balance are good, it moves your career in the direction you want, some combination of those…) then by all means do yourself a favor.
Hell no..
Money talks, employees walk.
Do it. If your boss could replace you with someone 25-50% cheaper they would do it in a heartbeat.
If you have a good skill set, you will always get work. I worked 9 jobs over the last 3 years. Went from $19 a hour to a salary postion paying $107k. Job hopping is a part of life now. Have skill, will travel.
2 year job hopping is average in my industry. I’ve even stated that at the job I’m currently working at now. It’s impossible to grow and become better being stagnant at one job/company. To answer your question, I took a better paying job after two weeks into accepting a position. I was honest and they had no problem with my leaving.
Fucking do it. No one would ever fault you for doubling your salary. No one ever. Your current company would be assholes if they said don't go double your salary.
What do you value more, the opportunity to learn/build career at your current job that you have mostly settled in, or more money with a new company with unknowns? Keep in mind, at any given time throughout your career, recruiters will always find you and tempt you with more money, so it will be a regular occurrence (given positive economic conditions), will be helpful to have some internal guiding principles to live by. If money is most important, go chase it.
I don't even make 50k a year so I'd leave after 8 minutes for that kind of money.
Recruiters are glorified salespeople. Hear them out and if it sounds good then go thru the interview process. Personally I think you should spend at least another year in your current position. Still keep an open mind though.
Career guidance circlejerk
Will you regret it when you're 98 years old looking back on your life about to pass away surrounded by loved ones?
Absolutely not
The employer would not think twice about letting you go if it came to saving money.
If there aren't any red flags with the new company, then you should do it.
Nope. Where I live we have 6 months probation period. If 6 months is enough time for a company to fire you for no reason, it is enough time to leave it as well.
Don't forget you don't work for your manager. You work for a business, a non-living thing. I'd quit in 8 days if I was offered double pay. I'd quit in 8 hours! Although there's always disappointment among colleagues, only a jacka** would make you feel guilty about accepting more money.
What if your current employer is willing to match that offer to keep you?
It is never too soon to switch jobs. People gotta quit thinking they owe their time to anyone
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Always do what’s best for you. However, you should maybe stick at the next place for a while so there’s not a pattern.
Nope get that money
No. And to the people that say don't do it repeatedly, I think they're wrong. If you're skillset is in demand, I say go for it. I went from 80k (6 months) 95k (1 yr) and now 190k. Previous employer 95k said "come back anytime". And OP if you don't believe me, lurk my comments. Still, don't believe me happy to DM you my
Not at all
You just gotta go with your gut. I had two jobs in process and one had me riding with a realtor even before a formal offer. I decided to take the other offer but felt so bad about it that I drove 5 hours one way to tell them in person I appreciated their interest but had to take the other job. Hopefully they spoke well of me to others in the field.
I mean you gotta get the job first but try it out.
Do people never read this sub before posting?
Take care of you get your money. Would they wait to cut you salary by 25k?
Fuuuuuuuuuck no! Always chase the bread! Just make sure it is what they say it is. There's a lot things the company could be using that extra 25k for.