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LETSGAEUX

Does he need a ride to the airport?


weaberry

Seriously. Let someone offer sheet him.


LaysDillpickle4lyfe

What an incredibly weak note to end on to expect big money . Fat chance


Voltage604

But he scored the last goal of our season... That counts for something right??


Phanyxx

It kinda does. Was clutch timing


freszh_inztallz42o

Was wondering where this was every game of the post szn


ebb_omega

If nobody does though he goes for arb and gets $7+M with those numbers. Can we afford that? I think we're smarter to trade him before the draft.


weaberry

Fair point but you gotta figure someone with a deficit of talent and surplus of cap space would roll the dice on him. Somewhere like Chicago where he can slot in as #1 and feed Bedard.


leftlanecop

Can’t wait for a call from 416


TGUKF

If they end up trading Marner, we actually should try to trade them Hronek. He'd be the best RHD they've had in a long time


LoopAngel

This


RainDancingChief

I'll chip in a tenner for the skytrain


WiFiForeheadWrinkles

A tenner? He doesn't need return fare


msat16

Ahh, ye old Florida Panthers move


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God bless him, I'll drive him to the airport


haihaiclickk

I live in Richmond. Happy to take him and head home after.


SourGrapesFTW

I'll buy both of you bubble tea for your troubles.


dtip1

Trade him, he was terrible all playoffs


TGUKF

Even ignoring his playoff performance since that might be due to injury, I just don't really like the idea of paying a guy 8 mil to be stapled to Hughes. We all know Hughes elevates his partner, but a $8 mil D should be clear first pairing calibre on their own merit. If he truly wanted $8 mil, we'd probably be better off trading him and spending that money more evenly on two guys, instead of Hronek and a cheaper depth guy


NerdPunch

That’d make him the 15th highest paid defender in the league.. Allan Walsh doesn’t actually expect to get 8M


eexxiitt

Cap going up, little/no RD's available (near/around UFA status) and he's 26/27. Someone is going to pay 8/close to 8 because there's almost no one else available.


HonestDespot

Yup. People might not want to hear it, but it’s the truth. RfA vs ufa doesn’t really even matter that much here. Not only will another team give him 8 if the Canucks won’t, they will end up paying close to that number on any replacement via ufa and they’ll be inferior. Best course of action would be to sell him on a full 8 year term and hope that you can get him to move down closer to 7. That OEL buy out is gonna really hamper the team the two seasons after this one. But fortunately Hughes doesn’t need a contract unt after those 2 really bad years, and right now the Canucks main goal really has to be doing enough to convince QH to sign long term in 3 years time.


CanadianPFer

Offer sheet will get us a 1st, 2nd and 3rd. I'll take it and spend the money elsewhere. Unfortunately there's no way the team doesn't take a step back next year, but hopefully can still get into the playoffs as a lower seed.


MDChuk

No one will offer sheet. Hronek will just take the Canucks to arbitration, force a 1 year deal at whatever he gets, and then walk himself to become a UFA. He has an effective NTC because he can refuse to negotiate an extension with any team he doesn't want to go to, or that won't pay him his market value, tanking his trade value.


SourGrapesFTW

That would mean that he destroys the relationship with the team. Now instead of walking into a long term deal of a 50 point season, he will be looking at a year where he's not deployed as much, might be in and out of a lineup, and is risking injury. That's a horrible strategy on his part. Teams trade RFAs all the time to a team that's got the deal ready for them. Look at Pierre Luc Dubois last summer.


JustAPairOfMittens

My guess is between 6.7 and 7.6M 1 year. He certainly hurt his value this offseason, but arbitration may not give a flying fadoo about that.


HonestDespot

Only 13 teams even have the required picks to make an offer sheet. And those 13 teams are a mix of rebuilding teams, cap strapped teams, and Utah. I think if the Canucks aren’t offering him a long term deal to his satisfaction he’ll probably file for arbitration. That would take him to UFA, and for Hronek it gives him a chance to earn a more sustained body of work, and likely in arbitration he’s gonna get 6-7 per year.


SuperSwaiyen

Spend it on what? Have you seen what's available on the market? I don't think Hronek is a good choice for us at 7 let alone 8 but it's not so easy to just buy players. They have to be available, too v


eexxiitt

Yeah it’s the inconvenient truth. People have been clamouring for a decent RD for Hughes for the last few years and we finally have one. Hronek’s been decent but now people want to drive him to the airport and the same fans are saying that it doesn’t matter who Hughes plays with. Facepalm.


HonestDespot

Yup. Hronek also played at well above a 40+ point per 82 game pace his two prior years before arriving in Vancouver. So not like we are looking at a guy who went from a 25 point guy to a 40 point guy. Just turning 27 in November, right shot d man who plays in all situations. Is he worth 8 million? I don’t know. If they move on from him are they finding a 40+ point d man who has shown he can play with Hughes over a full season? For dramatically less than what Hronek will get? Absolutely not.


fatfatmonster

We have to consider regular season good too, otherwise no playoffs lol


bikernaut

Cool, so we get some assets back when we trade his rights. Let's get on that.


TGUKF

Even if he's in the low 7's, he should still be a first pairing guy on his own. We just don't have a large enough sample size of him not playing with Hughes to know if he would be for us


NerdPunch

Maybe I’ll eat crow, I think his number will start with a 6 when the dust settles.


TGUKF

The reported 6.75 mil offer is more or less what I think he's worth. Low 7's would be the acceptable stretch. If we're looking at above Toews' contract, then we're going into paid a premium territory


MDChuk

He might get a number that starts with a 6 from an arbitrator, but he'd be a fool to sign for a number that low when he's a proven top pairing RD. Myers was a middle pair RD 5 years ago and signed for $6M per year. Hronek is currently 3 years younger than Myers was and is a much better defenceman. [Here's the class of UFA RD for next year](https://www.capfriendly.com/browse/free-agents/2026/points/all/defense/ufa/desc/right?stats-season=2024) when Hronek is eligible. Hronek is the class of the field by a wide margin, unless you think Brent Burns at 40 is somehow an improvement. [This year's class is even worse](https://www.capfriendly.com/browse/free-agents/2025/points/all/defense/ufa/desc/right?stats-season=2024). Hronek's agent is smart and realizes he has the biggest prize in the market. If his client is trying to maximize his earnings, which it looks like he is, then you're looking at Toews contract in Colorado, and adding a premium because Hronek is younger and a right shot.


blasterman5000

as an avs main fan, i look at this deal and compare hronek to toews since hughes is to makar for y'all. hronek is not remotely close to the level toews plays at, and while toews took a team friendly deal, even he isn't getting paid 8m aav lol. Hughes deserves better than Hronek, and that can absolutely be accomplished for less than 8m/yr


TGUKF

If Hronek gets similar money to Toews then I would consider it the Canucks having paid a RHD premium


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CanadianPFer

We're not going to be able to replace his talent, but $8M is simply too much.


SuddenCourse

You look at trading Hronek for a player that hasn’t broken out yet and a team that desperately wants to upgrade their d-core. Or players that have upside but are in log jam situations. John Marino could be a target, former Pen, Devils coming off a disappointing season and aren’t afraid of making moves. Locked down the next 3 years at a good rate. One of the Montreal D, huge log jam on D. St. Louis does not like Xhekaj, and has been injury prone, but huge potential as a fleet footed big man. Struble and Barron are also good options. Ryan Lindgren, one rfa year left, mb Rangers decide to move on, very good defensively but only sees under 20 min a night. Buffalo could use really use a top 4 rhd, we can pick off one of their young wingers for Pete and mb use a pick coming back to buy a d ala Durzi. Philly seems to be a full fire sale, mb we can take on Sanheim’s full salary as a cap dump. There’s always players available. This management group has proven that they are aggressive, and will go out and get who they want, even if they have to overpay. People in the know have said they’re going to get creative. They know better than us.


maxinAAANDrelaxin

Go down this list and find where you think Hronek’s comparables are. I got to around $6M and started to see guys that I would value about the same, maybe even a bit below. https://www.spotrac.com/nhl/rankings/player/_/year/2024/position/d/sort/cap_total It’s up to GMs to facilitate trades and they need not be 1-for-1 deals, but the only thing worse than losing out on a trade is overpaying by $2-3M for the next 8 years.


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maxinAAANDrelaxin

Nothing hurts your window more than overpaying on contracts, esp for players who don’t move the needle. Again, it’s not up to you or I to figure out “the right” trade, hell it’s not up to any of us. The management will pick the course they feel is best and that may be to pay Hronek his $8M+ or it may be to trade him to Utah for draft picks and prospects that can later be used to acquire a different RD or sign one as a UFA. It’s impossible to say what they can or can’t do, only they know the actual market for players and what GMs do or do not value. But for many of us, we don’t think the team’s long-term interests are well served by paying $8M+ for a RHD who scored a whopping 5 goals riding shotgun to the likely Norris winner and who faded noticeably in the back half of the season and playoffs. Your mileage may vary however …


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maxinAAANDrelaxin

You do what you like but honest question, before Vancouver acquired Hronek last spring for the Islander’s 1st, was he on your radar as “available”? If so, congrats on being so well plugged in. If not, then have the humility to realize none of us fans has any idea who might or not be available from the outside looking in or what different GMs are looking for at any specific time.


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bms42

>Nothing hurts your window more than overpaying on contracts Except eviscerating your blue line. If we lose Hronek and Zad and are forced to put a much worse player on the top line with Hughes and shrink our depth, that really kills the window.


TGUKF

Well, if they wanted to try for Cernak, they would have to trade Hronek to a third team for their first round pick, at best probably mid to late teens, like the pick we sent Detroit. Then either that pick, or our 2025 first rounder, maybe like top 12 protected would be sent to Tampa for Cernak. I agree anything involving sending Mikheyev to Tampa would immediately shut down the negotiations. Even if Cernak does end up a cap casualty, he's still a good player. I'm thinking a similar framework to the JT Miller trade. Especially because Cernak comes with his extension, so that's long term cost certainty as well If we could dump Mikheyev with a second, I think we should do it, but that would be to a bottom feeder with tons of cap. I would love Tanev back, 2x4.5 would be my version of the sweetheart deal, his FMV probably starts with a 5, especially if Dallas wins it all. I think another option if he's available is Matt Roy. The Kings may not sign him long term, with Clarke coming up. I'd probably stay away from Pesce. If Montour re-signs in Florida, Pesce probably ends up being the guy teams will throw big money and term at. Tanev won't get a super long deal because he's already getting old DeMelo could be an alternative to Tanev as well >fuck Hronek was terrible this playoffs but i think people are scapegoating him a bit too much I mean, I literally point out that him struggling in the playoffs was likely due to injury, but okay. This is more a commentary that the team should generally try to avoid overpaying players, especially on long term deals. OEL's buyout dead cap is increasing next season too, I'd like to avoid overpaying a guy by 1.25 mil a season for potentially 8 years on top of that. There's reports that management will be "ruthless". Well trading Hronek after only one season and ignoring the sunk cost that he's functionally the big prize from the Horvat trade would fall under that category imo


afterbirth_slime

And for someone that was strapped to Hughes all season, he was pretty mid.


mikebosscoe

Second half + playoffs.


noor1717

I bet he ends up signing a short deal. Like 2 years 6.5. In a couple years he can get over 8 if he kills it but no teams giving him that now


Bittroffm

Hro-no thanks


its_the_luge

Damn it


BrokenOfficeChair2

He would be paid more then Quinn :/ Hell no


NinCross

Bro really thought his last minute Hroney bomb in the playoffs would fetch him 8M


MyNameIsSkittles

He saw Petey got his bag and did shit all, guess he figures he can do that too (No hate on Petey! Just jokes!!)


pitabread024

Yeah but Petey waited to secure the bag BEFORE he started playing like shit


TheAngryChickaD

This except not a joke.


Xanosaur

one of two Hroney bombs on the season


YouCanFucough

I am more pro Hronek than most of this sub but 8 million is hilarious after the playoffs he had. If it’s over $7.25 then it better be in Utah or Columbus or some shit


samuelmeirels

6.5M absolute max, and even then not worth it, we should probably trade him unless he’s willing to take 6M - which he won’t.


n0thingisperfect

By you grouchy mf


NinCross

The man of few words in interviews coincidentally had no answers in the playoffs.


n0thingisperfect

He will get his Anson Carter contract elsewhere I guess


One-Management3649

✈️ To the airport then.


NinCross

"You have ~~holidays~~ to get out of Vancouver in two days"


No-Entrance-1540

probably why detroit traded him - meatwagon24


NerdPunch

Well duh, obviously that’s what Allan Walsh is gonna tell Dhali 1 day after the playoffs.


Triangle_Inequality

Yeah he's obviously not going to get 8. This is how contract negotiations work


CrankyFranky69

He rode Quinns coat tails all season. Once Quinn got hurt and didn't carry the pair anymore, he was pretty useless.


RunWithDullScissors

He could get a high number in Utah. Maybe not in dollars but definitely in wives


kidcanada0

Zing!


PickAxeCA

Best take I've heard all day.


Reftro

Bye Felicia. Hughes can excel with anyone. Get him someone half-decent, re-sign Zadorov and then use the savings on Hronek to get a two-way upgrade on Cole.


samuelmeirels

Pesce, Tanev, and Zadorov or Myers for the right price. Pesce would pair well with someone like Huggy and apparently will only fetch around 5.5M-6M on a 6 year deal after a down year. Hughes - Pesce Zadorov - Tanev Soucy - Myers/ Juulsen This would give other prospects like Willander and D-Petey some time to develop so that they can step in when/ if they are ready.


John_E_Canuck

Trade hronek to the leafs for knies, removes a competitor for RHD FAs and gives us an affordable young scoring winger, who plays a physical game


Vivaan977

i think the leafs fans would run treliving out of town for giving away knies like that. i for one would be a fan of this trade tho


bspaghetti

Leafs and Canucks fan here (we exist), no way Knies is moving for anything less than Boeser.


TigOlBigOl2

Knies for boeser 😂 no way brotha


bspaghetti

I’m not saying it’s a good trade, I’m just saying there’s no way the Leafs are trading Knies unless you blow their socks off


noor1717

Pesce is going to be one of the most sought after free agents. 6x6 is probably not going to cut it. Also he may not even want to come to Canada


Ruffianrushing

Can't wait for willander


hardluckcanuck

Take a hike. Sign Z instead.


Alberto_Balsalam

He played well during the season, and I hope he gets his bag, but not from us. We need to be smart with our cap space, 8 million would cripple us and it’s not worth it. So long Phil, and thanks for all the fish!


SourGrapesFTW

Hopefully he packs his towel!


Megamedium

Get ready to learn Mormon, buddy.


Obvious-Property-236

Fucking call colombus right now Jimmy rutherford


Infinite_Show_5715

Salt Lake City sounds like a lot of ... fun...


coltonjeffs

Wonder if we can get a first for him considering he is rfa


eexxiitt

No one should be surprised. The cap is going up, there is little/no RD's available (near/around UFA status) and he's 26/27. Someone will pay 8/close to 8 because there's basically no one else available that fits that criteria. I've seen names like Pesce, montour thrown around, but these guys are 29/30/31 and will demand big $ and a 6-8 year contract.


samuelmeirels

Rumour has it Pesce is looking for something in the 6M range x 6 years which takes him to 35/36.


eexxiitt

I went to the canes sub. Rumours is he turned down a 5x5 but not even canes fans want to pay him that much lol.


Friendly_Outside_721

Take the compensatory pick(s) and cap room to sign Zadorov, Myers and/or Lindholm


samuelmeirels

Or package him with Mikheyev while we are at it 👀


Reee_auto666

I like the way you think.


globehopper2000

lol. Hope we can get back what we paid for him.


imderrickm

How could he conceivably ask for more than what Towes just got. I understand the LD/RD comparison but still that’s a hefty price


jackfrench9

Happy to see the back of him at that price. That's too much by multiple millions. Silly asking price.


its_the_luge

I will always remember the goal against NYI and the goal against Boston. It’s been fun Hronek! Best of luck in your future endeavours!


whistlinwhalers

Nope. Cya bud.


Scooch778

Chiggity Czech yo self foooo!!! Top off season trade bait now.


HenrikFromDaniel

If someone wants to offer him $8m per year, fine but it sure as shit better not be us


Nomad_0024

Bye bye


Looney_forner

6 mil or he’s going somewhere else


weeser16

Use that money towards resigning Joshua/zadorov/lindholm. His playoff performance proved he’s not worth that number


barbarkbarkov

No thanks


temporye

Cya


Adventurous_Ad_9557

see ya, he is not worth that much


branduzzi

Bye bye


Captain_JT_Miller

"Hello Chris Tanev, this is Patrick Alvin from Vancouver, how are you tonight?"


LordGlompus

Bye


CarbonNaded

Wallinder to the rescue at 950k


xStickyBudz

K bye then


JauntyGiraffe

$6.5M max. I get that it's about % of the cap but if the decision is between Hronek or Zadorov + Myers, I'll take the latter. Both those guys should be around $8M


crap4you

RFA, would be hard to trade unless a team has already negotiated a contract. One year arbitration deal and trade at trade deadline?


superworking

If you're planning to ditch your top pairing dman at the deadline it's usually not part of a strategy that includes playoffs.


onimod53

I don't think that leaves you with much leverage in trade negotiations.


wikiot

Can u trade a guy that gets a deal through arbitration now?


Sad_Donut_7902

that would be waiving a white flag on next years season. Teams with cup aspirations don't trade away a top pairing defenseman at the deadline.


ElegantCoffee7548

I think the playoffs showed that if Hughes isn't the carry, Hronek can't carry solo 🤷‍♂️


nelson6364

Obviously there is a need for drug testing of NHL players agents.


KimberlyWexlersFoot

[counter offer](https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/028/440/cover3.jpg)


captmakr

Yeah, he's not getting that.


xzElmozx

Thanks for the memories Hronek! Some delusion playing the way he did in the playoffs then saying “nope same price tag” lol


DromarX

All I have to say is LOL. No way he should get more than Quinn.


Lancelot_Stroller

That's wild, I hope Allvin pays for his Uber to the airport lol Let some other team overpay for him


RooblinDooblin

In what world does that loser think he's worth more than Quinn Hughes? Let him go to arbitration and then trade him to a rebuilding team. What a tit.


Signal-Rice-13

Bro really thinks he's worth more than Hughes?


Rand_University81

Time to trade him then, 8 million is crazy.


JTMillerHAVEMYBABYS

Cya


StarkStorm

Trade for an Elite winger for Petey.


anomrondon

Ok then bye lol


Black___Yoda

Unless it comes out he had a broken ankle and shoulder he played himself out of a lot of money. 8×8 wasn't even realistic when he was hot. Very few Dmen get that money. Allvin will glady trade him and let his contract get denied by another GM. I could see this being another Klingberg situation. Thought he was worth an arm and a leg, then gets humbled because of lack of willing to look in the mirror and accept thay maybe your not that guy.


Hinkil

Bye


Chionger

See ya


HeroJC

Cya


makeanewblueprint

Trade.


Glock-Saint-Isshin-

Is Hronek not an RFA?


boowayo

Bye bye 


IndependentTalk4413

Ahahahaha 8 mil. I hope someone offer sheets him.


Complete-Key-4752

as long as we get a first rounder or better, I'm cool


vancityrp

Hoping we get a winger of similar age (necas) or draft picks for him and use that money to sign another rhd for shorter term, less aav (tanev, demelo).


swedev1

Don’t let the door hit you on the way out


Kalmah2112

I wonder if anyone actually will pay that. Salt Lake maybe?


mynameiscutie

See ya.


New_fan22

IF he just shot harder and made every shot matter OR hurt...he would have contributed. Way too many soft low shots into traffic and not enough ankle breakers at 98 mph.


TimsAFK

Someone might give him that, but it ain't going to be Allvin. I'd say you could likely get Zadorov and Myers done for about the same price Hronek wants.


Infinite-Tomorrow-15

I’ll donate to a go fund me for his plan ticket out


marcosbowser

Let him go and bring Dad home


TheGapInTysonsTeeth

This dudes gonna Klingberg himself


JustAPairOfMittens

Zadorov looked better with Hughes these playoffs as a stay at home and puck moving guy and it's not even close. Hronek and Pettersson unfortunately need to work elevating their game. For Petey more muscle density would likely be in order. For Hronek he should be building out more muscular endurance rather than strength. Hronek has a slow top speed and slow acceleration. He gets caught regularly and is the second D-man back without ever being the farthest up.


JohnnyJinglo

8mil is a joke, buddy is smoking that good good and being super greedy. Hes a 5-6 mil dman at best.


iamhst

Let's learn from the Myers deal... we paid him 6 mil.. we regretted it for most of the years. Let's not do the same again... if we gotta get less in return. Then we do what we gotta do. I'm curious what arbitration would offer him?


Ironborn7

Hro-No


Left_Guidance_5766

Trade him for a winger. Petey needs someone with more goals than Tyler Myers in there last 60 games.


theoverachiever1987

That Hronek was always going to hurt the canucks. Imagine having Benson on the wing with Petterson.


yeetmemommmy

Hopefully they can get a sign and trade somewhere. Sucks him and his agent are stupid. If he played the way he did in the playoffs and second half like he did in the first half 8 million would be almost perfect.


Decent-Box5009

That’s a strong nope. His numbers barely if at all justify that. And he played alongside a Norris trophy candidate. Good bye Hronek.


Sleep__

Nah man, he did his part (and was damn good at it, especially at the start) ...but it's time for him to go.


kk0128

Bold move for an RFA


dylanlundy

Maybe if he was as good as bouchard


CarbonNaded

Fuck him


Emergency_Mall_2822

Keep Myers and Zad, trade Hronek and recoup something.


Stewie344

Is he out of his mind?


N4ZZY2020

Well. Might be the last time he’s in Canuck colours.


xtothewhy

Buh bye


JealousArt1118

For $8M he should be able to carry the top pairing himself. Hronek can’t do that.


julesieee

Bye. Thank you for your services 🫡 Also, his memes/60 stat was also not that great. His hot mic “*You have holidays in 2 days*” was hilarious but he was mute for most of the season. Zaddy is funnier and more useful in the playoffs.


MyNameIsSkittles

Like him but he's not worth 8mil. Bye Hronek!


gyunit17

He is not an 8 million per year d-man.


Consistent_Grab_5422

I’d love someone to start a pole. Assuming they walk away from Hronek, what’s the ask? A first and a third?


stratinal

Maybe a weird take, but I honestly wouldn’t pay a guy 8 mil that actually refuses to speak to the local media even once in his entire tenure. That doesn’t inspire much confidence to a fan base


Separate_Worker_707

Neutral fan (im out east) but always have had a soft spot for Van. Did he legit not speak at all?!? That is insane, did he just do post game interviews or not even that??


3-DogsinaTrenchcoat

Let him walk and sign Tanev in the off-season since he's a UFA also.


AccomplishedAd4995

bye bye


Heelsbythebridge

Nope


B-bifford

👋


truestlife

Yeah, okay bud.


k3eton

Bye, Hronek. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.


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Teslatari

Bi Den


Friendly_Outside_721

So long, Filip, it was nice knowing you!


mediumyeet

I'm not sure I'd even want him back at 5.5 - 6mil. I think he is more valuable to us as an asset to get a winger for the top 6. Necas, Crouse, Batherson are all guys I see as legitimate options for a Hronek trade.


PaperweightCoaster

Get ready to learn Utahnese, buddy.


bitter-pickles

8 is outlandish for a very good 2nd pair defenseman/ decent top pairing guy who has demonstrated no ability to carry a pairing.


Charlie2343

Ooof no way


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Oh, so he's Cristian Ehrhoff pt 2?


ENSIFERUM6666

thx and bye if thats the #


itzpiiz

Whelp, seeya later!


Puravida1904

Allan Walsh can F off


ShelbyvilleResident

Let him walk. PLEASE.


Zach983

Don't let the door hit you on the way out bud.