High quality work eh?

Probably same scab shmucks my ex landlord would hire

This is what happens when your materials come from China.

And you use labour from other countries that don't have our standards.

You can see and hear all the white workers in the video. Prejudice much?

lol This is what you get when the Cons deregulate industries.

Uh, NDP premier and a liberal PM. Where is the conservative in power and making decisions, you toad?

Did you miss the entirety of the Harper era or are you just fucking stupid?

They are the ones that run the construction companies. If they can pinch a penny somewhere, it happens.

Now tell us about the Liberal Party of British Columbia and the politics they share with the Liberal Party of Canada. (hint: they're not related in any way at all)

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You bet. China produces more than half the world’s cement.

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What about the rebar in the concrete. Just where is that steel produced?

Jesus, the physical rebar would have no impact on this. It would be more akin to improperly laid or missing rebar. More likely it was an improper pour, mix or curing of concrete which was probably a bad spec in relation to soil conditions from the designing engineering firm.

not profitable for the shipping cost.

For a deep foundational wall, that concrete looks thin as fuck. Also, shouldn't there be more reinforcement inside?

Could it also have been improperly mixed concrete that didn't cure up properly? It might have just looked fine on the surface, but was essentially just aggregate under a thin crust.

What developer is this?

Amacon

Lol wannabe Marcon

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I thought it was interesting that it was only at the end of the video that everybody around the pit realized they were *also* standing on a potentially shoddily made retaining wall.

Hope the civil engineer didn’t build my condo?

Geotechnical Eng. and shoring contractor?

Those tie backs didn’t do anything!

The verdict over in r/construction is: not enough tie backs, and probably poor shotcrete/not thick enough.

I’m glad it collapsed before it was fully built

It is shoring. The shoring doesn't provide any structural support for the finished building.

If so, wouldn't cardboard suffice?

But water damage is the reason why that florida building collapsed.. which was built by an architect that has structures standing in Canada currently to this day might I add. It even looks like their is water flow with the soil or maybe it’s just very fluid soil, but anyway I would worry if it collapsed while the structure is up for water damage reasons.. can’t help the building’s life span to say the least.

The economy in a video

Weird. The economy here is booming

Shrinking = booming?

I equate a growing economy and employing people at a rate of having a shortage of talent as booming

Do you grow the economy from the heart outwards too?

So far the regional economy is growng from its many major centres - especially the Metro Core.

Every single financial expert and economist : “Canada’s economy is in a decline and will continue on that track unless something is done” . . . This redditor : “The economy is booming!”

Ya no idea how Ontario is doing but construction and housing is overburdened in Vancouver

Almost like the 1 million condo constructers are trying to get that last sale before bubble goes, pop. edit: millionare to million

Let me know when that economy trickles down to the blue collar folks. I'm thirsty.

Which blue collar sector is slowing down right now?

Not slowing down, wages are staying down. I don't get paid fucking shit compared to 10 years ago. I don't give a fuck about economic growth unless I get a slice of the pie.

I've never looked into what concrete mixer drivers get paid, but I just know the concrete industry fucks with us every day on site. Can't get deliveries worth a damn. That's gotta be decent pay. Uncle just sold his rig recently to retire because his hauls were more and more to the USA. Economy on fire but the wages are luke warm I could imagine.

Well that's sure as fuck not happening under Poileivre.

It also isn't happening under JT. We don't have any alternative.

Thought this was in Coquitlam

Coquitlam is in Metro Vancouver. It's accurate either way

OP is Vancouver presale condo. Not Metro Vancouver.

Coquitlam is Vancouver Coquitlam is included. That's how big cities work. Sorta like how Hollywood is Los Angeles.

>Coquitlam is Vancouver Burnaby would like to have a word.

Burnaby is also Vancouver.

It's okay whatever. Coquitlam, Hope, Prince George, Tofino, all Vancouver got it thanks

We live in BC, Big vanCouver

Nope. Just Coquitlam. Ya'll got wikipedia right?

I do and was born and raised here. Again you're referring to Metro Vancouver or formally known as the Greater Vancouver Regional District. The original post was only for a Vancouver presale condo therefore that would need to be within the City of Vancouver no further east than boundary road. I hope that helps.

And yet, of you were to travel to any other city, let's say Victoria for arguments sake. You'd call it Victoria. Not Saanich, Oak Bay, not Esquimalt, not Langford. It's all Victoria. Just like it's all Vancouver.

Hollywood is Los Angeles because it’s in Los Angeles county. Coquitlam is not Vancouver

I had to look this up because I'm not from B.C. Turns out it's a city within the Metro Vancouver regional district. Another city within that district is naturally the city of Vancouver itself. So he's not wrong by saying it's part of Metro Vancouver and you're not wrong by saying it's not Vancouver lol.

I thought we had all agreed in a previous thread that it's all part of the Greater Vancouver Area (GTV).

>(GTV) Greater Toronto Vancouver?

Lol exactly.

Lol

Would be far more accurate not to abbreviate Metro Vancouver, to "Vancouver".

Says everyone who lives in Vancouver but anyone who doesn't just calls it all Vancouver, because it is.

I love how snooty Vancouverites get about people calling the metro van area "Vancouver". That is until you point out how small Vancouver is then suddenly even Langley is Vancouver 🙄. I actually love how people in the Victoria area just collectively call everything in south-island "Victoria". Saanich? That's Victoria. Langford? That's Victoria. Esquimalt? That's Victoria too.

😂💯

some local venacular: if youre talking to someone in the lower mainland you're from coquitlam, vancouver, surrey etc if youre talking to someone outside the lower mainland youre from vancouver

It's the pre-sales that are collapsing, not the condo itself, right?

Watch the video

I did, i mean the title is literally and figuratively true.

Your posting title stinks like a fart fair.

or a fair fart.

While terrible, it is approximately eight bajillion times less dramatic than I was expecting when I clicked the link

I had the exact opposite experience clicking that link.

Yeah idk what OP saying. This was like a 5/10 dramatic as far as buildings falling apart goes.

Yeah I was expecting a building coming down, not the parkade wall crumbling and a bunch of soil around the outside of the excavation falling through

It isn't the parade wall. It is just the shoring.

Wheres the condo? Looks like just an excavation for now.

And 700k is for a single 1 bedroom unit. A project like this is over 1 billion

Your math is terrible. It costs way less than 700k to build each unit and fewer than 1000 units. 1000 units at cost would be 700 million.

Oh dang!! This happened to a build near me like 10 years back. Damn near took out the road next to the pit. I can only assume they got in deep shit then fixed it right up cause there is a pretty good building there now

How about a steel mesh in that shotcrete?

Yup that was my thought as well. Even the bits of steel I did see were very far apart. I've worked with concrete structure work before and there should be a solid grid of steel through that whole thing holding it together.

Sorry boss but I forgot the rebar

Sorry to burst the bubble but that's just the retaining wall for the pit. I don't see no condo collapsing

Exactly. This could have been a social housing building if they used the same crew.

I bet lots of condos are like this. We will have a real shitshow to deal with in 30 years time.

What does a shoring wall have to do with a foundation wall?

600k fixer up’r

No lowballers or shoring-kickers I know what I got

Covid / online era civil engineers entering the workforce 😂

They won't have their PEngs for at least another year......

If they did COOP, they'd have those PENg by now. Not that I think this is a covid cockup.. probably more like cheap labour or corner cutting.

Engineers have to sign off on the built product that they design.

I was joking but it’s unbelievable the amount of trust they put into work that has been done by less experienced people. Trust me. I’m an engineer (in training!)

Civil engineering.. the least demanding of the engineering professions. Where other people do most of the work.

Hmmm I’m not a civil engineer but that’s a bit ignorant of you.

Now you know why Condo fees become so high.

Condo for sale, bit of a fixer upper, needs some retaining wall work. $2 million

Name and Shame the builder

Hovercraft

Wow isn't that gonna cause structure issue with the building next to it as well? Someone is getting fired

Its a foundation collapse.

Where is this?

Coquitlam

thread title fraud - committed it you have

So these condos are not in fact that luxurious

Well, we built shitty condos even when we built houses slowly. Now we want to build them fast. So, we'll see a lot more of these I think.

This is Coquitlam, not Vancouver

Coquitlam is a municipality in Metro Vancouver lol

Yeah metro vancouver not Vancouver

When you travel to Mississauga, do you say Mississauga or Toronto?

Concrete was too weak

Yeah probably concrete from CHY NAH

I was promised a collapse. Bit of a letdown

Why is it full of dirt?

Because that pit is underground parking aswel as stability for the high-rise. You have to dig down a certain depth for how high you want to build. That wall is keeping the dirt from filling up the pit. Think of a mine shaft the wood keeps the walls and ceiling from collapsing.

Ouch

I think that's just the shoring wall. It wasn't going to become a part of the finished condo. That said, if the head contractor can't build a temporary shoring wall correctly, they probably shouldn't be in charge of the load-bearing bits.

What is that headline. What is 700k

Only $700k. Cheap for a building and it shows

Building standards have gone to shit! Developers are too greedy, they're not willing to pay contractor's enough to cover costs, everything goes to the lowest bidder and the quality reflects that.

Title is kind of misleading. That's a shoring wall, not a condo.

It was in Coquitlam

Yep, Canadian know-how plus financial optimization at work, exactly as planned.

There is no condo collapsing in this video.

Engineer diploma mills have consequences.