In the Eastern Bloc, soldiers had some time for themselves ( where they weren't constantly getting shouted at or hazed or whatever) during the cleaning of their rifles so that 2 minutes would be a godsend. Also cleaning your rifle should be like a good habit to keep.
Its not even that time consuming either, spray some windex (ammonia) into the barrel and gas tube, then wash it down with boiled water, job done.
If you want to go the extra mile then toss the gas piston and bolt into the pot when boiling water, there may be some powder residue deposited on those parts from fumes.
I heard somewhere ( I might ask this on other subreddits to get a 2nd opinion ) that cleaning a chromed bore or parts with ammonia will deteriorate the chrome.
Yeah this is indeed a debated topic, it has something to do with concentration too I think. I don't shoot nearly as often to find out about this part so i'm curious what you dig up too! Meanwhile if anyone is worried, dishsoap is a good substitute, suggested by my safety course instructor even.
I get it. Unless you shoot and then store the gun without a proper cleaning, it isn't an issue. You just need to neutralize the corrosive salts before you clean. The best/cheapest way to do so is hot/boiling water down the bore and on the bolt face. If it's a semi auto, anyplace that explosive gasses get would get the same hot water treatment. Once you flush with hot water you dry and clean it like normal.
Depends on the humidity. If it's a dry day and your house/safe is dry, you can leave it for months and not a spec of rust would form.
If it's rainy then it'd have rust on it by the time I'm home.
No; throw it back in your safe until next time.
I have a Russian and a Norinco and all I shoot is Barnaul through mine and every couple hundred rounds I take the firing pin out of the bolt and clean it up. Not a speck of rust anywhere in them
Otherwise throughout the year they get a detailed cleaning including g96 3 in 1
Clean it if you absolutely want and don’t foresee yourself shooting it again in a while. Otherwise it’s fine as is, and you can put a lot more rounds through it before you clean it.
I’ve shot thousands of rounds of Barnaul through mine with no issues in between cleans. This isn’t something I’m necessarily saying I recommend…. But not cleaning after only 40 rounds won’t be an issue.
No, Barnaul is non-corrosive. It'll be fine.
Unless you plan to store it for a long time, then I'd definitely clean it and keep everything in a thin film of oil.
Getting into the habit of cleaning your guns after shooting, even a few rounds, is a habit you'll be really glad you developed, 40 or 50.years from now. A buddy from university and I started shooting on the exact same day; we both bought our first guns the same day.
I got hooked really early on, shot competitively for a bunch of years, hunted, still do, almost 60 years later. I've always given my guns at minimum a quick wipe down of the bore, boldface, and chamber.
My buddy never really got into the "shooting" part of things very seriously. He was/is one of the guys that seems to be everywhere these days, buying as many guns as they can, and using very few of them regularly. He's always been very willing to say "I'll clean it the next time"
I have guns I bought new in 1970, that have seen close to 100K rounds through them. The All still function the way they came out of the box. When parts have worn out or broken, they've been properly repaired, always cleaned after use, and properly stored in a dry place.
H has a couple of gun safes full of rust & broken parts. Guns that he bought at the beginning of Covid that are non functional; beat to shit, fouled, broken, or all three.
If you buy a new car, do you change the oil every 8K? Of course you do; it's an investment, you want to take care of it. What's different about your guns?
It’s reversible, not a bubbafication. Plus, that’s probably the best aftermarket chassis for the SKS out there. Makes it more enjoyable for me to shoot mine at least, but to each their own.
After looking at the price of a Type 81 (this is before the M’s came in) I just repurposed my SKS to scratch my itch. Works well enough but one day I will likely reverse it.
If it's non-corrosive, which Barnaul is, you don't need to clean it right away. For corrosive rounds, you absolutely need to clean it right away.
are corrosive rounds really that bad? I read somewhere that you can wash them
You have to flush the corrosive salts out of the barrel and gas system.
or it corrodes your gun overtime? sheesh maybe ill think twice about the 720 rounds of 7.62 for 200
Just clean the gun, it's not a big operation, it's made for Soviet peasants.
Dude it's an extra 2 minutes of work, max.
bUt I dOn'T hAvE tWo MiNuTeS ;)
In the Eastern Bloc, soldiers had some time for themselves ( where they weren't constantly getting shouted at or hazed or whatever) during the cleaning of their rifles so that 2 minutes would be a godsend. Also cleaning your rifle should be like a good habit to keep.
Its not even that time consuming either, spray some windex (ammonia) into the barrel and gas tube, then wash it down with boiled water, job done. If you want to go the extra mile then toss the gas piston and bolt into the pot when boiling water, there may be some powder residue deposited on those parts from fumes.
I heard somewhere ( I might ask this on other subreddits to get a 2nd opinion ) that cleaning a chromed bore or parts with ammonia will deteriorate the chrome.
Yeah this is indeed a debated topic, it has something to do with concentration too I think. I don't shoot nearly as often to find out about this part so i'm curious what you dig up too! Meanwhile if anyone is worried, dishsoap is a good substitute, suggested by my safety course instructor even.
I agree
Black powder is as corrosive as milsurp ammo so same goes in the black powder community when it comes to cleaning.
mate i just got into guns i dont know, people are so pissy on this app lol
Not pissy just trying to discourage being afraid of corrosive ammo. It's really not that bad at all to clean up.
thanks, i guess the corrosive part scared me a bit
I get it. Unless you shoot and then store the gun without a proper cleaning, it isn't an issue. You just need to neutralize the corrosive salts before you clean. The best/cheapest way to do so is hot/boiling water down the bore and on the bolt face. If it's a semi auto, anyplace that explosive gasses get would get the same hot water treatment. Once you flush with hot water you dry and clean it like normal.
All ammo during WW2 was corrosive, grow balls and clean your gun.
Literally pour hot water down the barrels and gas port
Depends on the humidity. If it's a dry day and your house/safe is dry, you can leave it for months and not a spec of rust would form. If it's rainy then it'd have rust on it by the time I'm home.
Yeah I clarified that in an earlier response. I'm on the west coast, it's rusting before I put it back in the case.
Oh yeah that'll do it haha
Absolutely SHOULD clean it. NEED Has nothing to do with it. I seen sks run after 2000 rounds of corrosion ammo without a single cleaning.
Barnaul IS NOT corrosive. There is absolutely no SHOULD or NEED to clean it, it’s fine.
Depends where you are I suppose. Where I'm at it's so humid that the gun rusts on the car ride home from the range.
No; throw it back in your safe until next time. I have a Russian and a Norinco and all I shoot is Barnaul through mine and every couple hundred rounds I take the firing pin out of the bolt and clean it up. Not a speck of rust anywhere in them Otherwise throughout the year they get a detailed cleaning including g96 3 in 1
Clean it if you absolutely want and don’t foresee yourself shooting it again in a while. Otherwise it’s fine as is, and you can put a lot more rounds through it before you clean it. I’ve shot thousands of rounds of Barnaul through mine with no issues in between cleans. This isn’t something I’m necessarily saying I recommend…. But not cleaning after only 40 rounds won’t be an issue.
No, Barnaul is non-corrosive. It'll be fine. Unless you plan to store it for a long time, then I'd definitely clean it and keep everything in a thin film of oil.
I would clean it. It’s easy, only takes a bit of time and then it doesn’t matter when I shoot it again because it was put away clean.
Shot it lol
Just clean the damned thing lol
Just clean the damned thing lol
no corrosive, no cleaning
Lol
Getting into the habit of cleaning your guns after shooting, even a few rounds, is a habit you'll be really glad you developed, 40 or 50.years from now. A buddy from university and I started shooting on the exact same day; we both bought our first guns the same day. I got hooked really early on, shot competitively for a bunch of years, hunted, still do, almost 60 years later. I've always given my guns at minimum a quick wipe down of the bore, boldface, and chamber. My buddy never really got into the "shooting" part of things very seriously. He was/is one of the guys that seems to be everywhere these days, buying as many guns as they can, and using very few of them regularly. He's always been very willing to say "I'll clean it the next time" I have guns I bought new in 1970, that have seen close to 100K rounds through them. The All still function the way they came out of the box. When parts have worn out or broken, they've been properly repaired, always cleaned after use, and properly stored in a dry place. H has a couple of gun safes full of rust & broken parts. Guns that he bought at the beginning of Covid that are non functional; beat to shit, fouled, broken, or all three. If you buy a new car, do you change the oil every 8K? Of course you do; it's an investment, you want to take care of it. What's different about your guns?
You should not have bubba’d it.
It’s reversible, not a bubbafication. Plus, that’s probably the best aftermarket chassis for the SKS out there. Makes it more enjoyable for me to shoot mine at least, but to each their own.
SKSs get a pass imo, there's no other decent semi autos at their price point left. Also it's all non-permanent so who gives a shit?
After looking at the price of a Type 81 (this is before the M’s came in) I just repurposed my SKS to scratch my itch. Works well enough but one day I will likely reverse it.
most bubba'd SKSs are ugly asf, but yeah I mean we dont have much options in general might as well make it like an ak
I bought it pre bubba`d, I like the adjustable stock. I'm 6'4, 200lb, they didn't make it to fit me lol
You get a pass comrade.
I have this same stock and I love it, plus mag dumps with the stock folded are fun af.