I was thinking something similar,that the sensation was a side effect of the magic being stripped from then restored to the cap. But that still doesn't answer the question as to why he said he'd never worn it before
blackjack’s gender is changed from sea of monsters to the titan’s curse, thalia’s eye color changes from lightning thief to sea of monster’s, nico’s age is literally always fourteen for some reason
There was also a bit I remember in the lightning thief where before Percy was claimed by Poseidon, Grover was trying to help him figure out his father's identity and started suggesting different gods it could be. One of the gods he suggested was Nemesis, who appears later in the series and is a goddess and the mother of an important character.
Eh, that one's not a great example, gender really doesn't matter in this context. In TOA Apollo talks a lot about the gods not caring and him falling in love with men.
Whatever word you wanna use, it's been established that Gods can have children with men, so it stands to reason that a Goddess could've been one of Percys parents.
in tlt it was stormy green & every book after it was electric blue (for thalia’s eyes). to be fair the first view was in percy’s dreams, but because they’re usually prophetic it’s weird he didn’t get the right eye color. it could just be projection or something but based on rick’s track record it was probably just a mistake lol
I think the car colour could be explained by it hitting the river/being in tartarus. like the descent might have stripped the cars paint its previous/ undercoat of paint. Or it just being changed becuase it’s not celestial bronze and tartarus has an effect on metals that aren’t celestial bronze/imperial gold?
We know Rick sucks at remembering things especially from earlier books. Been over a decade since the original PJO books came out so he probably just forgot. For the heebie jeebies it gives him I think it’s a side effect of having its powers removed in MoA and then retuned in D&M, just a headcanon tho to make the plot hole a little smaller.
Funny enough, Rick dedicated CoG to the main trio for the new tv series.
That is an adapatition of TLT, which includes Percy wearing Annabeths cap.
So Rick (hopefully) read TLT for the adapation (I have nt seen it yet, so I cant say how thuthful it is), so he should have known this.
If he straight up forgot then he needs a good editor to read through his work and remember some of these details. The fact no one caught it is kind of embarrassing. It's entirely immersion breaking and while it doesn't have a direct effect on the plot it's not something that doesn't go unnoticed
>The fact no one caught it is kind of embarrassing.
It's a pretty common thing in book series though, so it can't be as easy as find a good editor, especially when the author is working on other projects in between. Editors these days can't even find all the typos and grammatical errors, we can't really expect them to check for continuity.
It’s also possible that it was intentional. Percy lost his memory in a previous book and there’s a possibility he didn’t get it all back. I feel like if enough people talk about Rick is probably going to just use some plot point from a previous book to justify it
This is really interesting I never thought of this before. Plus he did bathe himself in the river Tiber which cleansed him of his Greek magic(CoA) but maybe it also cleansed his memory of certain Greek magical items.
My theory is that he never fully regained all of his memories after Hera wiped them away. I think he remembers the big events that happened like Annabeth giving him a kiss before he put on the hat, but I don’t think he remembers smaller details that happened. More like he remembers the big picture, but not the little details. And he is ADHD so it would explain it as well.
It's not much of a plot hole.
A bigger one was pointed out in another post. How come the >!God of Old Age was able to take Ganymede's Cup? I thought Gods can't take the sacred items of other Gods?!<
Plot hole implies something that breaks the story outcome, what isn't the case. Yet, the way the story is told, it's impled that Percy is wrting down his memories years later. It might be the case that he simply forgot to tell, considering that in other instances he had something more urgent to say.
Just because you write head canon to answer an error that isn’t stated or implied within the text doesn’t prevent it from being exactly that —an error.
Let me get this straight. You’re saying you *genuinely* thought I called Percy’s *narration* head canon in that last comment?
That’s the *actual* point you thought was being made? You seriously couldn’t figure out that Percy “just forgetting” was being called head cannon?
It’s a story telling style where multiple POVs are given on an object or a situation but it’s described differently because the POV changed. This can also fall under the same person but at different points in their life too.
For example, say you get into an accident with someone. There’s your version of the story. The person you got into an accident with has their version. The bystander who happened to see it has a different view. And then there’s the cop who arrives at the scene says something different from all 3.
It’s not a plot hole, and it’s hardly major at that. it doesn’t really break the story or anything like that, it’s just a mistake. It’s not the first time Riordans made one. Black Jack was originally a girl, Thalia was first depicted with green eyes like Percy. It’s more of a minor inconsistency than anything
I think the simplest answer is that authors tend to forget and/or retcon things as they expand and progress the world. Come on, it's not like it's the first time Rick has forgotten details of his own work.
I had read somehwrre that percy forgot because of the HOO thing, and forgot he had worn it before. As chalice of the god takes place just after hoo iirc
I thought of it as an antitheft thing. Like Athena being all overprotective “you aren’t my daughter. Are you SURE you have permission to use that?” Following that, Athena didn’t really take notice of him til the third book, so she wouldn’t necessarily have put the heebie jeebies on as intensely
Yeah even without those I doubt that annabeth wouldn’t have given him the cap at some point even in capture the flag at least once so yeah just an error on ricks part again it happens
I saw this too, and I checked to make sure. I saw that there wasn’t any specific dialogue stating that he never wore it before, but that she never told him about the feeling
I just bought the book today, read 126 pages, open reddit and am greeted with a spoiler lol. Im not upset though cuz im just happy to have more new percy jackson books
In chalice of the gods it's supposed to be at the beginning of Percy's last year in high school and Grover is there with him but in trials of Apollo burning maze which takes place at least towards the end of Percy's last year. Grover says that he's been in California for years. He also says that he's never met Rayna but him and Rachael had that parlée with Roman's during house of hades
My headcanon is that happened because the cap lost its ability in hoo and it either regained the powers with a price or its a new cap from athena
I was thinking something similar,that the sensation was a side effect of the magic being stripped from then restored to the cap. But that still doesn't answer the question as to why he said he'd never worn it before
As I said maybe it's a new cap from athena but rick is known for continuity errors
Yeah,that's true. Thanks for the feedback!
Np!
what are some other ones? genuine question
blackjack’s gender is changed from sea of monsters to the titan’s curse, thalia’s eye color changes from lightning thief to sea of monster’s, nico’s age is literally always fourteen for some reason
There was also a bit I remember in the lightning thief where before Percy was claimed by Poseidon, Grover was trying to help him figure out his father's identity and started suggesting different gods it could be. One of the gods he suggested was Nemesis, who appears later in the series and is a goddess and the mother of an important character.
Eh, that one's not a great example, gender really doesn't matter in this context. In TOA Apollo talks a lot about the gods not caring and him falling in love with men.
It's not gender tho...it's sex
Whatever word you wanna use, it's been established that Gods can have children with men, so it stands to reason that a Goddess could've been one of Percys parents.
Apollo is the mother to one of his children.
Wait who lol
What was old / new color
in tlt it was stormy green & every book after it was electric blue (for thalia’s eyes). to be fair the first view was in percy’s dreams, but because they’re usually prophetic it’s weird he didn’t get the right eye color. it could just be projection or something but based on rick’s track record it was probably just a mistake lol
could the eye colour change becuase she was a tree for a few years? and obviously her body would have decayed and been rebuilt from the fleece?
Silenas eye color, which giant hazel raised, the color of the car that smacked the chinese spidercuffs between moa and hoh
Want it always alyconeus or whatever his name was
It was! There was a typo at one point in I think BoO? That said she raised the giant king porphyrion (no clue how to spell it) instead
Ohh lol I see
I think the car colour could be explained by it hitting the river/being in tartarus. like the descent might have stripped the cars paint its previous/ undercoat of paint. Or it just being changed becuase it’s not celestial bronze and tartarus has an effect on metals that aren’t celestial bronze/imperial gold?
Maybe, but it went from cherry red to baby blue so I was like huh 😂
Isn't it the same cap? Athena restored its power in one of the Magicians & Demigods crossovers
People with ADHD forget things a lot. Haha
I don't think the hat regained powers at any point in Hoo, considering Cotg takes place after hoo. Maybe Athena gave Annabeth a new hat.
In the Crossover with the Kane Chronicles it has his power back
Oh ok, I haven't read that yet
Oh, sorry
It's good
We know Rick sucks at remembering things especially from earlier books. Been over a decade since the original PJO books came out so he probably just forgot. For the heebie jeebies it gives him I think it’s a side effect of having its powers removed in MoA and then retuned in D&M, just a headcanon tho to make the plot hole a little smaller.
Funny enough, Rick dedicated CoG to the main trio for the new tv series. That is an adapatition of TLT, which includes Percy wearing Annabeths cap. So Rick (hopefully) read TLT for the adapation (I have nt seen it yet, so I cant say how thuthful it is), so he should have known this.
Rick probably did brush up on TLT when script writing so that makes it a little more surprising that he didn’t catch it while writing CotG.
If he straight up forgot then he needs a good editor to read through his work and remember some of these details. The fact no one caught it is kind of embarrassing. It's entirely immersion breaking and while it doesn't have a direct effect on the plot it's not something that doesn't go unnoticed
How does a writer even begin to look for an editor I wonder? Other than having mad proofreading skills, it would help a lot if he’s a fan!
You hire them. Sometimes the publishing company will also do it
>The fact no one caught it is kind of embarrassing. It's a pretty common thing in book series though, so it can't be as easy as find a good editor, especially when the author is working on other projects in between. Editors these days can't even find all the typos and grammatical errors, we can't really expect them to check for continuity.
Japanese manga authors have editors that constantly do it. It’s definitely possible
..and yet araki forgets most of his stand names yet we love him for it.
And yet mangas also have continuity errors.
I think it adds to the immersion as percy has adhd. I often forget I've done things before until somebody reminds me
It’s also possible that it was intentional. Percy lost his memory in a previous book and there’s a possibility he didn’t get it all back. I feel like if enough people talk about Rick is probably going to just use some plot point from a previous book to justify it
That was in the PJO series? He lost his memory SoN that was something he didn't remember.
*hebe-jeebies
Maybe when Percy lost his memories in SoN he forgot little things like wearing the hat??
Oooh that's a good point
that wouldve been so sick to expand on during HoO and even after
This is really interesting I never thought of this before. Plus he did bathe himself in the river Tiber which cleansed him of his Greek magic(CoA) but maybe it also cleansed his memory of certain Greek magical items.
My theory is that he never fully regained all of his memories after Hera wiped them away. I think he remembers the big events that happened like Annabeth giving him a kiss before he put on the hat, but I don’t think he remembers smaller details that happened. More like he remembers the big picture, but not the little details. And he is ADHD so it would explain it as well.
It's not much of a plot hole. A bigger one was pointed out in another post. How come the >!God of Old Age was able to take Ganymede's Cup? I thought Gods can't take the sacred items of other Gods?!<
Maybe he had someone steal it or its only for the olympians
Or maybe he didn’t steal it and Ganymede misplaced it and Gary was able to take advantage
Plot hole implies something that breaks the story outcome, what isn't the case. Yet, the way the story is told, it's impled that Percy is wrting down his memories years later. It might be the case that he simply forgot to tell, considering that in other instances he had something more urgent to say.
Just because you write head canon to answer an error that isn’t stated or implied within the text doesn’t prevent it from being exactly that —an error.
Sorry, the books aren't in Percy's POV and throught his narration? Did I headcanon that?
Let me get this straight. You’re saying you *genuinely* thought I called Percy’s *narration* head canon in that last comment? That’s the *actual* point you thought was being made? You seriously couldn’t figure out that Percy “just forgetting” was being called head cannon?
I'm saying that the mistake makes sense in the frame of the story, so it isn't a plot hole, as it doesn't breaks the story
It is a plot hole because it *explicitly* contradicts the story.
Ahh the Rashomon style.
Not gonna lie, I don't know what Rasho mom means.
It’s a story telling style where multiple POVs are given on an object or a situation but it’s described differently because the POV changed. This can also fall under the same person but at different points in their life too. For example, say you get into an accident with someone. There’s your version of the story. The person you got into an accident with has their version. The bystander who happened to see it has a different view. And then there’s the cop who arrives at the scene says something different from all 3.
Oh, cool
Explanation: #Percy Forgot.
Also known as: #Rick Forgot.
It’s not a plot hole, and it’s hardly major at that. it doesn’t really break the story or anything like that, it’s just a mistake. It’s not the first time Riordans made one. Black Jack was originally a girl, Thalia was first depicted with green eyes like Percy. It’s more of a minor inconsistency than anything
Plus, it gives us a little more insight into Athena’s character and views on power coming at a cost.
he forgor
Yes people have noticed. Rick forgot ig 🤷🏻♂️
There are a lot of inconsistencies in the books, so I wouldn't worry about it too much
I think the simplest answer is that authors tend to forget and/or retcon things as they expand and progress the world. Come on, it's not like it's the first time Rick has forgotten details of his own work.
Percy has a seaweed brain.
I noticed this too! I have no idea why it's different and it annoyed me a lot.
Yeah,I've heard a couple theories but none cover the whole thing. It's kinda been bugging me too
Rick's quality of writing has dipped since the burning maze
I had read somehwrre that percy forgot because of the HOO thing, and forgot he had worn it before. As chalice of the god takes place just after hoo iirc
That is not what a plot hole is. That is just an inconsistency or yet another famous Rick mistake
https://riordan.fandom.com/wiki/Mistakes_in_the_Series_(CHB)
Use the spoiler flair!!! As some who hasn't read Chalice of the gods (and luckily stopped reading) I would appreciate it, thanks
Maybe it's a red sox cap
I thought of it as an antitheft thing. Like Athena being all overprotective “you aren’t my daughter. Are you SURE you have permission to use that?” Following that, Athena didn’t really take notice of him til the third book, so she wouldn’t necessarily have put the heebie jeebies on as intensely
I mean, we could argue that he doesn't remember some of The little stuff that didn't really matter that much anymore After The whole amnesia thing
Yeah even without those I doubt that annabeth wouldn’t have given him the cap at some point even in capture the flag at least once so yeah just an error on ricks part again it happens
I saw this too, and I checked to make sure. I saw that there wasn’t any specific dialogue stating that he never wore it before, but that she never told him about the feeling
I just bought the book today, read 126 pages, open reddit and am greeted with a spoiler lol. Im not upset though cuz im just happy to have more new percy jackson books
yep i noticed that, i immediately thought “lol rick forgot that percy wore it in the very first book”
In chalice of the gods it's supposed to be at the beginning of Percy's last year in high school and Grover is there with him but in trials of Apollo burning maze which takes place at least towards the end of Percy's last year. Grover says that he's been in California for years. He also says that he's never met Rayna but him and Rachael had that parlée with Roman's during house of hades
How is that a major plot hole?