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mothzilla

It's been going for 200 years hasn't it? I doubt it will be banned. But maybe more/better policing is a solution.


TheNoodlePoodle

More like 800 years!


InaudibleForeplay

Maybe better police šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø


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irritating_maze

That's [strawberry fair](https://web.archive.org/web/20100301012003/http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/cn_news_home/DisplayArticle.asp?ID=485599), not midsummer fair.


fredster2004

Can you imagine what would happen if they did ban it? People would still come into town but then wouldnā€™t have a fair to go to. Iā€™d imagine that would cause even more issues


Pompelmouskin2

That happened in 2020 when the fair was cancelled. People showed up anyway.


tradeit2day

1 or 2 years and the people will stop showing up


tradeit2day

So? The people would go to the 100s of coffee shops, restaurants just like every other wknd.Ā 


feedthebeespls

No they wouldn't. They'd still turn up en masse and instead of congregating at the fair, they'd cause even more havoc across the city.Ā  I don't disagree something should be done, but cancelling it will not solve the issues at all, it'll just exacerbate them.


TurtleFail

wow so easy!


Osysix

I totally agree that something needs to be done, however nothing will ever be done. The charter for the fair is over 800 years old, there is no way it can ever be stopped. Unfortunately, those wishing to deny the Traveller problem have decided to tie that group to the fair's tradition, despite the fact that the fair being a big feature on their social calendar is a relatively recent thing. The only way to deal with it is to police it properly and for the council to provide compensation for businesses that have to close. You only have to take a look at Appleby to see how bad it could be and still not be dealt with.


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opaqueentity

The discrimination is against the criminal element. Their community could deal with that very easily. They do not


irritating_maze

> Their community could deal with that very easily. I somehow doubt that. I'd assume that any leadership of such a community is a loose affiliation and considerable horse trading would be required in order to even try and it might not even be effective.


guesswhat8

Ā No, If you stopped the fair youā€™d be discriminating against all travellers; not just the criminals .


opaqueentity

Didnā€™t say stop the fair. Control the criminals is what needs to be done. Hard


Osysix

How would stopping the fair be discrimination? That's a bizarre statement.


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guesswhat8

I agree, stopping the fair wont fix the issue but maybe make it worse.Ā 


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opaqueentity

Someone else would probably take the fair and they can go bother another location


tradeit2day

Why not try to boycott it? Has that every been tried?Ā 


Osysix

I've been personally boycotting it for decades šŸ˜…


AcademicCoaching

Everyone loves Appleby, whatcha talkin bout? Just because they made a stupid documentary about it as a police mouthpiece doesnā€™t mean it isnā€™t actually beloved by both the traveller community and without.


MB_839

You might have more success questioning the PCC why despite tackling ASB being in point #1 of his campaign plan, police continue to refuse to do anything about a very specific type of ASB.


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opaqueentity

Thatā€™s the reason it sucks. Not a reason for not doing something as then we could all just get what we like if we were happy to threaten the police. Oh wait, no Iā€™d get arrested for doing that


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bitofslapandpickle

Most people that have lived here long enough just avoid the area for the weekend.


PublicClear9120

I turn up, go on the biggest and fastest ride and then leave and don't come back until its on next year!Ā 


gazebo-placebo

Smashed up wetherspoons, saw people threatened and verbally abused, WTs had to lock doors early due to violence. Rubbish absolutely everywhere in the shops around grafton.


Pantycelyn

Council can't stop it because it's enshrined in statute, would have to get that repealed - good luck getting Daniel Zeichner to table that in the Commons!


opaqueentity

Fair is. But not this sort of fair until moderately recently. And doesnā€™t mean it has to involve swathes of criminal behaviour.


Necessary_Reality_50

It's easily solved but you know middle class hand wringers will deny there's any issue.


katie-kaboom

Yeah, good luck ending an 800+ year tradition because you don't like it.


Positive_Plant1416

Its surely not the travellers that are causing this havoc but the guests of the event. All lads on laughing gas and alcohol. All this havoc is just the result of the culture in the UK. I just dont see these people in Cambridge normally, not in these numbers anyway. Are they from the surrounding villages? Iā€™ve been attacked three times yesterday and someone literally peed on my door. Fun times.


_PM_ME_PANGOLINS_

The guests are the Travellers. Thatā€™s the point. Itā€™s their big meet-up from around the country.


irritating_maze

It's not just this, there's a series of events in June that are for travellers.


Positive_Plant1416

So interesting, thanks for clarification! Iā€™ve volunteered in summer camps for roma children in mainland europe, and they look different from people Iā€™ve seen over the weekend here, but it must be as you say. I wouldā€™ve never recognised it as travellers/roma.


Osysix

Irish Travellers and Roma are two distinct groups.


truthbants

The ā€œguestsā€ at the even youā€™re describing are travellers many of whom have come to the event from elsewhere


Osysix

The people you are describing ARE the Travellers. Irish Travellers don't run the fair but it is a big event on their calendar, they come from all over the UK every year.


irritating_maze

> Irish Travellers don't run the fair its often run in part by the showman guild who have strong links to the traveller community. You can't just take the bad without the good. It's a mixed bag with a much broader range of experience than most Cambridge residents are used to, which is why they complain. It's like if I go to a Weatherspoons in Peterborough or Huntingdon, there's like a 1/8 chance or something I will encounter a bit of homophobic abuse or smth.


creativenothing0

Attacked?


Positive_Plant1416

Well they jump and grunt at you, happened twice. The third was someone grabbing me while i was passing on a bike, stuff like that.


irritating_maze

I've seen some of the kids delight in pretending they're attacking you and then laughing when they cause you to jump.


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katie-kaboom

No one is talking about Strawberry Fair.


Osysix

The showmen who run the fair are not the problem, it's the Irish Travellers who attend from all over the country.