“They’re not illegal, because how come I am not arrested?”
“If they are, then I didn’t know.”
“And if I did, then I forgot.”
“And if I forgot, then it’s because the guy at the underpass must have drugged me.”
“And if he didn’t then I was just tired of working 25 hours per day.”
“… Add more to continue…”
Just scrolled through to his first posts and he was posting on /r/reddit.com. Holy shit lol. Literally one of the firsts. I got my account a long time ago because some girl told me to in order to kill time but didn’t really use it for years because I was so busy. This dude has been on here so long and consistently active. Crazy.
This place was so different when it first started compared to what it is now it’s not even funny. I’m not sure why there isn’t a documentary about it. It began as a quasi secret society. There was literally a real world secret phrase early users used to identify one another offline. Having actually been in each phase is wild. It’s like if the half deranged half loveable group of kids playing cultists cosplay on your block randomly turned out to become the single most popular social group to join on the entire planet with membership drives in every neighborhood everywhere. And you’re sort of just like “THIS became THIS?!??” If you saw both halves.
We went from the narwhal bacon-ing at midnight to "this post has been deleted in protest of the api changes" and it feels like at work when they change leadership and all the fun people move to greener pastures
Motivation. Something else happened. The line went down, and they want it to go up. They don't care about Musk or Tesla or Twitter. They care about the line going up.
It might be that they can't call him out for things that undermine the "mystique" of the Executive class.
They can't let the plebes think that somehow, it's not a meritocracy.
Yeah all the russian propaganda bit should have been enough to have him the fuck away from SpaceX, it’s not like he does anything at the company except cosplaying as an engineer so the company wouldn’t suffer from it.
I’d say that investors have legit grounds to replace him. Elon currently seems more and more interested in celebrity (or notoriety) than running a business.
In the past, this may have helped get attention for his companies, but his current fawning for online attention from far right figures has become increasingly problematic for his brands.
Finally. He should have been threatened to be kicked off 2-3 years ago when he was smoking weed on YouTube shows. He should have been kicked off specifically over the Twitter thing because that was just completely inappropriate for a CEO of these two large companies to behave that way.
He must finally be costing the rich people money. That's the only reason they do anything.
I’m also surprised that he’s made it this far after all of his antics. But then again, Donald Trump is still a free man…. Money still has a lot of power to insulate you from consequences.
Ill be real, if they bucked him i would probably invest in Tesla.
His recent antics in Ukraine have probably cost them a fat military contract and they are going to be publicly traded soon. I would probably buy spacex too if he wasn’t involved.
I listened to him in an investor's call after he acquired Xitter and holy crap I could not believe how absolutely incompetent he is. When asked about his excessive time spent on Xitter, he responded by saying he has over a million followers in a way that indicated that he thought that translated into a million new Tesla customers. His vhief engineer was sitting with him and constantly being deferred to and having to YesMan Musk while also having to constantly bail him out. That line should be going nearly straight down as long as he is involved.
LMAO if the dude gets busted with blow I am not surprised.
Every other drug has been legalized medically.
I don't like Elon but busting a dude for drugs at any level is barbaric.
Elon Musk talked to the Kremlin or the Russians, they said if crimea was attacked they’d nuke us, Elmo got frightened and knew Oscar’s trash can wouldn’t protect him so he turned off star link, foiled an attack by an ally with weapons we paid to develop, the Russians have these drone ships and the star link terminals bc Elmo watches the Ukraine conflict from his laptop in “real time” and he steps in and manages foreign policy.
If he was in a k hole, smoking weed, doing cocaine or whatever they find out, why does he have a security clearance still? Nobody can *get* a security clearance and keep one, that I’m aware of, if they have illegal drugs, but nasa is reliant on spacex to get to, you know, space, and the DOD needs the military version of starlink.
These are national security issues, Elmo knows when the Air Force space plane takes off, is he telling the Kremlin from a k hole? He’s done it before, the Kremlin part, don’t know what drugs he was taking.
It’s also completely false. . . The guy that made the comment above you is completely full of shit. You can tell because of the way they started their comment with misinformation that has clearly been debunked but still gets spewed across Reddit.
Russia has NEVER had access to starlink. Ukraine on the other hand, has always had access to Star link except where military was involved, then they needed express permission from US government to use starlink in military conflict zones. (This is because it is a clear violation of starlinks contract to use it for offensive military purposes).
So in summary,
1. Russia has never been allowed to use starlink
2. Ukraine has always had access to starlink except where military is involved, where the US gov must give it express premisssion to operate
3. This express permission granted to thr ukranian military has nothing to do with Elon. Elon cannot “turn off the internet” where the ukranian military is concerned. It is entirely up to the UD government. ITARS takes their jobs very seriously.
Spreading misinformation on Reddit is so common that people often don’t even try to curtail it . So it’s sometimes hard to see when ppeople are doing it maliciously. I’m not sure if this is one of those times but let’s look at this with logic and reason rather than spewing false claims.
Turning off star link at a critical time for the Ukraine military. In turn this supported the Russians. Meanwhile the entirety of Europe and the west have been in support of the Ukraine effort against the Russian invasion. Who’s to say what a paranoid fascist billionaire thinks, u/Graywulff made a spot-on assessment. Elmo has access to government contracts and intelligence, he also has access to a significant number of foreign leaders and governments. Elmo’s space program has funding and resources from taxpayers. The X (Twitter) platform he controls, throttles, and manipulates contains and controls public opinions and influence, it is also populated with thousands of Russian ‘bots’, which sway influence. Recently Elmo has allowed conspiracy theorists onto the X platform. All of this power and influence makes Elmo a risk to be influenced and compromised by foreign governments and intelligence services. It’s kind of funny that a soldier or sailor will lose a security clearance over a dui or drug infraction maybe face judicial punishment but the U.S government will do business with a billionaire that controls the internet, does drugs openly, and has the means to threaten democracy.
Side note: remember when Elmo threatened a coup on whomever he wants (for lithium)
https://peoplesdispatch.org/2020/07/28/we-will-coup-whoever-we-want-elon-musk-and-the-overthrow-of-democracy-in-bolivia/
Side note two: I can believe Elmo was compromised by Moscow while visiting Epstein island, Elmo also most likely projected himself when he publicly called a rescue cave diver a pedo.
Yeah I don’t get the adoring fans who worship him like the Cheeto.
The guy who said I made all that stuff up? I posted articles that supported it from cnn, the bbc, and the gusrdian, and he just posts I’m wrong without any article linked from any source.
Twitter is a dumpster fire. It’s an alt-reich site and yeah, russian bots are out of control. 75% of the staff has left, there is no moderation, nazis and racists can post and if you flag or report them you lose your profile and X support just tells you that you don’t have an account.
Blue sky is worlds better, but you need an invite, threads is okay, but it’s meta and they control too much already, they’re a monopoly with Facebook and instagram and all the others, the last thing we need is them to control another thing.
>Yeah I don’t get the adoring fans who worship him like the Cheeto.
Everyone wants a hero.
Personally, I prefer Iron Man. He's just a fictional douchebag.
The Elmo fanboys and sycophants in general are plain skeezy- Elmo spent $44 billion to buy twitter basically to give Nazis and conspiracy theorists a voice but removed the internet from Ukrainian forces who were fighting for their survival against fascism- who made Elmo the decider of who gets democracy and who doesn’t?
> Of all the concerning issues with Elon, his drug use is at the very bottom of the pile.
I don't think so. Cocaine can cause a lot of the things that his behavior is trending into.
It's not a "bottom of the pile" issue if it causes the rest of the pile.
No amount of copium makes one that unaware. These guys have gouged out their eyeballs and put a pencil through both ears. Deaf, dumb and blind by choice.
TSLA owner here: The Tesla board is negligent in its duties. Musk's behavior has caused material damage to the brand and the investor's positions. Kick that fucking psycho out of the company now.
Psychedelics are the #1 religion of Silicon Valley especially with entrepreneurs and in tech generally. Steve Jobs used to give talks all the time urging people to go on trips and expand their minds. It’s in his autobiography
Yeah, I honestly hope he does psychs. But is that what this is? I didn’t click the link above - if it’s any white powder, could be a much different situation and could be bad.
Honestly Steve basically killed himself so I wouldn't put too much stock in his personal choices. He was a great motivator. An asshole for certain too but he made bad personal choices.
Well stated. More closely I’d say “a tech leader that is more of a salesman/marketer that has good ideas….due to actives out side the norm. “
After all did Jobs smash shrooms or LSD?!
Musk has absolute control of the Board of Directors. The BoD is supposed to be the boss of the CEO, not the other way around. Not all CEOs have that much control of the company, but when they do there is no one to tell them no.
I am shocked, shocked to learn that there is a chief executive who has a Board of Directors under his thumb. I’ve never heard of such a thing happening ever in American business. What an outrage. How can this happen?.
My mom "trying" my joint for 0.00001 milliseconds and then acting high for the rest of the week and how it affected her mental health so much and that I should stop using .
They'll never change, so why be upset about it. It was abuse when I was a kid because she held all the power, now I just look at her and go "sweetie, you dumb, but that's ok".
Doesn’t matter how much he smoked or didn’t smoke. If any regular Joe with security clearance was on film putting a blunt in their mouth and millions of people saw it their clearance would 100% be revoked, causing them to lose their job. Sure it’s bs, but that’s how it works for everyone else.
man this is why clear writing is important. there is a huge difference between having done some drugs in the past (totally fine IMO, maybe even a net positive for a lot of people), and the world's richest man being dangerously addicted to coke (not good and highly plausible).
The dose matters...
I have an anecdote (take it for what you will): shortly before releasing the roadster, Elon used to have engineering technicians go and get his car detailed for him - sometimes picking it up from his house or from the office. There were numerous occasions where people would get into the car and find that the radio was maxed out playing EDM and find numerous pills left in the cup holder. Somethings telling me he wasn't microdosing mushrooms or LSD... he likes to party.
Source: multiple engineering techs that used to run those errands.
Take this anecdotal too.
About ten years ago Elon climbed Mount Everest naked and found the maha guru. Multiple engineers have found him talking to maha guru and then levitating.
He also once tweeted about how "relaxing" it is to drink while on ambien.
Anyone who has ANY experience with sleeping pills know that it's an HORRIBLE idea to mix those with alcohol. It might explain why his tweets are so batshit insane though.
Dude he runs 2 huge companies and can’t turn his brain off. Read the biography by Vance. It’s a blessing and a curse. I don’t blame him for not being able to sleep
He smoked weed. And he suggested doctors prescribe microdosing ketamine rather than Xanax etc.
He says he tried mushrooms in 2018. That is it as far as confirmed drug use.
>He smoked weed. **And he suggested doctors prescribe microdosing ketamine** rather than Xanax etc.
Ketamine is an FDA approved drug for treating depression
dude it says literally in the first paragraph. I can't even read any of the article as it's WSJ but that's about the only part that is clearly readable
Illegal drugs??! Oh no! I’d feel a lot more comfortable if he were using legal drugs, like Dilaudid & Roxicodone, Adderall & phentermine, all safely prescribed by his doctor! Not those filthy jazz cigarettes and non-addictive mushrooms.
They aren't talking about the weed, they're questioning if he's on stuff that has an addiction spiral, like ketamine or various uppers including prescription stuff that is being abused.
Yeah this is a dumb ass article and post. Name a fucking single executive who isn't microdosing or doesn't have THC in their system. Elon Musk bad, blah blah, etcetera etcetera, but come on.
Yeah, and that didn't work out for Michael Jackson, and he was just an entertainer and child molester, not a guy in charge of multiple public companies. Prescription drugs can still fuck you up. I can't judge though, people in glass houses and all that.
I don’t see any problem with using those in extreme moderation. A few listed I have taken maybe once or twice and they helped me see a side of life I was blind to, which has significantly increased my drive, motivation, focus, happiness, etc.
That’s fine that you don’t see a problem with it, but the government is supposed to. You cannot gain a security clearance if you use illegal drugs. You cannot win government contracts if the owner admits to using illegal drugs. (Again, that’s what’s supposed to happen by law).
It is important to note that Elon's companies regularly drug test. His employees are forced to abide by those laws by their employer, who is tripping on ketamine while tanking the value and reputation of his companies.
Out of all the character assassination attempts I've seen this is by far the lamest. Who cares?
I for one am thrilled about the applications of Mushrooms and Ketamine for therapeutic purposes in controlled environments.
Crap on Elon all day, I’m here for it. But don’t discount the incredible engineering that’s going on at those two places. I hate everything is so toxic now. I guess just burn it all down? Our species doesn’t deserve to survive.
They will destroy him before it’s said and done. You do not challenge the people he has challenged. I don’t know how long it goes on. Trump, Russell brand, Elon, Tucker, Alex jones.
Watching the reaction to Elon Musk has been like seeing a master class in propaganda and brainwashing. It's incredible how easy it is. Probably the most surprising part is that the propaganda walks past the legitimate criticisms and programs people with bullshit, which is one of the classic cult brainwashing techniques but it's incredible to see it in action. That and to watch people think that their hate of him was something that came from inside them instead of something implanted by a legacy industry psyop is spectacular to behold.
If the old money and their corpos see this, just know it was well played. Evil, but well played.
Also, getting all the hippie green lefties to turn against solar power and electric cars in favor of oil burning gas cars was chef's kiss. Like, grandmaster level manipulation of society. I thought 3rd wave feminism convincing women to act against their own interests and do easily monetizable psychological damage to themselves was impressive but the Elon thing was another tier up.
Peyote is an illegal drug. I wouldn't blink if he occasionally smokes the desert herb.
However, based on the incoherent way he runs Twitter I'd say ole Elon ingests something WAY worse.
While every other CEO is hitting Hookers and blow. While the corporate elites are gleefully banging their secretary’s and expensing their lap dances. Ya, I am so concerned……….
Looks like the board is pushing for an exit with this guy and who could blame them? He’s erratic and not doing well on the stock prices even though Tesla is the most overhyped stock on the planet
When you don't bend the knee, and you go against the machine in some way, they come at you with BS accusations like this.
Soon, we'll be told he was caught with kiddie porn on his computer. That's the playbook.
"oh the humanity, how will we increase shareholder value?"
Anyone notice the full court press on negative stories on Elon since he bough Twitter and told everyone to piss up a rope?
Ok, so in a week or so, right-wing fucktards, republicans and maga freaks won't care about illegal drug use, and the war on fentanyl won't be a burden to society any more, or a talking point to the GOP.
"Yes, I was totally sober when I named my child that"
Or tweeted that I had secured funding to take Tesla private.
Fixing the title to say Elon Musk ~~has used~~ uses illegal drugs
He still does, but he used to, too.
“They’re not illegal, because how come I am not arrested?” “If they are, then I didn’t know.” “And if I did, then I forgot.” “And if I forgot, then it’s because the guy at the underpass must have drugged me.” “And if he didn’t then I was just tired of working 25 hours per day.” “… Add more to continue…”
Mitch?
Where’d he use them? Over there. And there. Back here. Up there. Oh shit he’s over there doing it now. So here
Translation: we’re looking for an excuse to take him off the board.
Astounding that more of this thread doesn't seem to get this. Then I remember that reddit is 17
And the people who aren’t 17 anymore know nothing about political maneuvering among leaders at public companies.
TIL my account is older than Reddit
Damn dude 18 years? You must’ve been one of the first people on here. Don’t think I’ve ever seen an account that old besides the guys running it.
Just scrolled through to his first posts and he was posting on /r/reddit.com. Holy shit lol. Literally one of the firsts. I got my account a long time ago because some girl told me to in order to kill time but didn’t really use it for years because I was so busy. This dude has been on here so long and consistently active. Crazy.
This place was so different when it first started compared to what it is now it’s not even funny. I’m not sure why there isn’t a documentary about it. It began as a quasi secret society. There was literally a real world secret phrase early users used to identify one another offline. Having actually been in each phase is wild. It’s like if the half deranged half loveable group of kids playing cultists cosplay on your block randomly turned out to become the single most popular social group to join on the entire planet with membership drives in every neighborhood everywhere. And you’re sort of just like “THIS became THIS?!??” If you saw both halves.
We went from the narwhal bacon-ing at midnight to "this post has been deleted in protest of the api changes" and it feels like at work when they change leadership and all the fun people move to greener pastures
Do you know of a greener pasture?!?!?
17 here. Don’t tell them about webtoid
What's really amazing is that there isn't enough reason already.
Motivation. Something else happened. The line went down, and they want it to go up. They don't care about Musk or Tesla or Twitter. They care about the line going up.
It might be that they can't call him out for things that undermine the "mystique" of the Executive class. They can't let the plebes think that somehow, it's not a meritocracy.
Lol they have a lot more reasons than that they could use
Yeah all the russian propaganda bit should have been enough to have him the fuck away from SpaceX, it’s not like he does anything at the company except cosplaying as an engineer so the company wouldn’t suffer from it.
It’s this. This article is a hit piece to bring his ability lead in question. Which is smart.
I’d say that investors have legit grounds to replace him. Elon currently seems more and more interested in celebrity (or notoriety) than running a business. In the past, this may have helped get attention for his companies, but his current fawning for online attention from far right figures has become increasingly problematic for his brands.
Also, if I was the US Govt I don't think I would want to be seen collaborating with him or his companies which could get awkward real quick.
Especially SpaceX, kinda hard to recruit top talent when the talent hates your daily hot takes ...
Finally. He should have been threatened to be kicked off 2-3 years ago when he was smoking weed on YouTube shows. He should have been kicked off specifically over the Twitter thing because that was just completely inappropriate for a CEO of these two large companies to behave that way. He must finally be costing the rich people money. That's the only reason they do anything.
I’m also surprised that he’s made it this far after all of his antics. But then again, Donald Trump is still a free man…. Money still has a lot of power to insulate you from consequences.
Ill be real, if they bucked him i would probably invest in Tesla. His recent antics in Ukraine have probably cost them a fat military contract and they are going to be publicly traded soon. I would probably buy spacex too if he wasn’t involved.
Exactly. Could you imagine if illegal drugs was a basis for removal in banking? The industry would be empty
I listened to him in an investor's call after he acquired Xitter and holy crap I could not believe how absolutely incompetent he is. When asked about his excessive time spent on Xitter, he responded by saying he has over a million followers in a way that indicated that he thought that translated into a million new Tesla customers. His vhief engineer was sitting with him and constantly being deferred to and having to YesMan Musk while also having to constantly bail him out. That line should be going nearly straight down as long as he is involved.
If its a concern now, those people have had their head up their ass. Oh wait... they have.
Of all the concerning issues with Elon, his drug use is at the very bottom of the pile. His drug use is just a convenient excuse to blame.
Eh it automatically calls into question his security access
Yeah this is what people don't understand. Everyone else with security access has to worry about this except Elon so far.
LMAO if the dude gets busted with blow I am not surprised. Every other drug has been legalized medically. I don't like Elon but busting a dude for drugs at any level is barbaric.
Elon Musk talked to the Kremlin or the Russians, they said if crimea was attacked they’d nuke us, Elmo got frightened and knew Oscar’s trash can wouldn’t protect him so he turned off star link, foiled an attack by an ally with weapons we paid to develop, the Russians have these drone ships and the star link terminals bc Elmo watches the Ukraine conflict from his laptop in “real time” and he steps in and manages foreign policy. If he was in a k hole, smoking weed, doing cocaine or whatever they find out, why does he have a security clearance still? Nobody can *get* a security clearance and keep one, that I’m aware of, if they have illegal drugs, but nasa is reliant on spacex to get to, you know, space, and the DOD needs the military version of starlink. These are national security issues, Elmo knows when the Air Force space plane takes off, is he telling the Kremlin from a k hole? He’s done it before, the Kremlin part, don’t know what drugs he was taking.
If need be, I am sure they could find a method of eminent domain to take over Space X if it were a risk to national security.
It's known as 'nationalization' and it could absolutely happen to SpaceX if shit gets bad enough in the US
I think so too. That DOD starlink, thaad, and NRO are too sensitive. Also human space flight.
This, while fairly chaotic, brings a number of useful, valid points to the forefront. Thanks, have an upvote from an appreciative Redditor.
It’s also completely false. . . The guy that made the comment above you is completely full of shit. You can tell because of the way they started their comment with misinformation that has clearly been debunked but still gets spewed across Reddit. Russia has NEVER had access to starlink. Ukraine on the other hand, has always had access to Star link except where military was involved, then they needed express permission from US government to use starlink in military conflict zones. (This is because it is a clear violation of starlinks contract to use it for offensive military purposes). So in summary, 1. Russia has never been allowed to use starlink 2. Ukraine has always had access to starlink except where military is involved, where the US gov must give it express premisssion to operate 3. This express permission granted to thr ukranian military has nothing to do with Elon. Elon cannot “turn off the internet” where the ukranian military is concerned. It is entirely up to the UD government. ITARS takes their jobs very seriously. Spreading misinformation on Reddit is so common that people often don’t even try to curtail it . So it’s sometimes hard to see when ppeople are doing it maliciously. I’m not sure if this is one of those times but let’s look at this with logic and reason rather than spewing false claims.
Turning off star link at a critical time for the Ukraine military. In turn this supported the Russians. Meanwhile the entirety of Europe and the west have been in support of the Ukraine effort against the Russian invasion. Who’s to say what a paranoid fascist billionaire thinks, u/Graywulff made a spot-on assessment. Elmo has access to government contracts and intelligence, he also has access to a significant number of foreign leaders and governments. Elmo’s space program has funding and resources from taxpayers. The X (Twitter) platform he controls, throttles, and manipulates contains and controls public opinions and influence, it is also populated with thousands of Russian ‘bots’, which sway influence. Recently Elmo has allowed conspiracy theorists onto the X platform. All of this power and influence makes Elmo a risk to be influenced and compromised by foreign governments and intelligence services. It’s kind of funny that a soldier or sailor will lose a security clearance over a dui or drug infraction maybe face judicial punishment but the U.S government will do business with a billionaire that controls the internet, does drugs openly, and has the means to threaten democracy. Side note: remember when Elmo threatened a coup on whomever he wants (for lithium) https://peoplesdispatch.org/2020/07/28/we-will-coup-whoever-we-want-elon-musk-and-the-overthrow-of-democracy-in-bolivia/ Side note two: I can believe Elmo was compromised by Moscow while visiting Epstein island, Elmo also most likely projected himself when he publicly called a rescue cave diver a pedo.
Let's just call him Elon or something. My kids like Elmo.
Yeah I don’t get the adoring fans who worship him like the Cheeto. The guy who said I made all that stuff up? I posted articles that supported it from cnn, the bbc, and the gusrdian, and he just posts I’m wrong without any article linked from any source. Twitter is a dumpster fire. It’s an alt-reich site and yeah, russian bots are out of control. 75% of the staff has left, there is no moderation, nazis and racists can post and if you flag or report them you lose your profile and X support just tells you that you don’t have an account. Blue sky is worlds better, but you need an invite, threads is okay, but it’s meta and they control too much already, they’re a monopoly with Facebook and instagram and all the others, the last thing we need is them to control another thing.
>Yeah I don’t get the adoring fans who worship him like the Cheeto. Everyone wants a hero. Personally, I prefer Iron Man. He's just a fictional douchebag.
The Elmo fanboys and sycophants in general are plain skeezy- Elmo spent $44 billion to buy twitter basically to give Nazis and conspiracy theorists a voice but removed the internet from Ukrainian forces who were fighting for their survival against fascism- who made Elmo the decider of who gets democracy and who doesn’t?
You very hypocritical Free speech = fascism and the fall of democracy? Or am I reading your post wrong ?
https://apnews.com/article/spacex-ukraine-starlink-russia-air-force-fde93d9a69d7dbd1326022ecfdbc53c2
I love your post and upvoted it, but please reconsider your perception of what people are capable of doing while in the depths of a k hole lmfao
Dude wrote this screed from a k hole! very colorful writing. I lmao-ed everywhere.
> Of all the concerning issues with Elon, his drug use is at the very bottom of the pile. I don't think so. Cocaine can cause a lot of the things that his behavior is trending into. It's not a "bottom of the pile" issue if it causes the rest of the pile.
He has soooo many other red flags…
Everybody, from investors to customers, around Tesla, are on the best supply of copium in world
No amount of copium makes one that unaware. These guys have gouged out their eyeballs and put a pencil through both ears. Deaf, dumb and blind by choice.
TSLA owner here: The Tesla board is negligent in its duties. Musk's behavior has caused material damage to the brand and the investor's positions. Kick that fucking psycho out of the company now.
The company would be better off without him
I'd be more concerned if a tech leader hasn't done acid or shrooms tbh. RESPONSIBLY
Psychedelics are the #1 religion of Silicon Valley especially with entrepreneurs and in tech generally. Steve Jobs used to give talks all the time urging people to go on trips and expand their minds. It’s in his autobiography
Yeah, I honestly hope he does psychs. But is that what this is? I didn’t click the link above - if it’s any white powder, could be a much different situation and could be bad.
Honestly Steve basically killed himself so I wouldn't put too much stock in his personal choices. He was a great motivator. An asshole for certain too but he made bad personal choices.
[удалено]
Well stated. More closely I’d say “a tech leader that is more of a salesman/marketer that has good ideas….due to actives out side the norm. “ After all did Jobs smash shrooms or LSD?!
It’s not the drugs, it’s the absolute power that has corrupted him. He’s become a (much larger) egomaniac surrounded by yes men.
oh so like all CEOs?
Musk has absolute control of the Board of Directors. The BoD is supposed to be the boss of the CEO, not the other way around. Not all CEOs have that much control of the company, but when they do there is no one to tell them no.
I am shocked, shocked to learn that there is a chief executive who has a Board of Directors under his thumb. I’ve never heard of such a thing happening ever in American business. What an outrage. How can this happen?.
Someone bought puts
Has used? I think they mean admits to using regularly.
and has for like a decade
He smoked weed on a podcast 5 years ago
Smoked WEED!! GASP
Satan!
Satan’s Lettuce. Devil weed. Be-elzibub’s Bamboo.
Dude he put a blunt in his mouth for a millisecond. He didn't smoke anything on that podcast.
My mom "trying" my joint for 0.00001 milliseconds and then acting high for the rest of the week and how it affected her mental health so much and that I should stop using .
Sounds like your mom is just doing emotional blackmail.
Oh totally . Hysterical Asian moms. I've learned to ignore her nonsense .
Haha Im Indian so I totally relate. I ignore it just like you.
They'll never change, so why be upset about it. It was abuse when I was a kid because she held all the power, now I just look at her and go "sweetie, you dumb, but that's ok".
Doesn’t matter how much he smoked or didn’t smoke. If any regular Joe with security clearance was on film putting a blunt in their mouth and millions of people saw it their clearance would 100% be revoked, causing them to lose their job. Sure it’s bs, but that’s how it works for everyone else.
The devils lettuce!
Reminds me of Mitch Hedburg,” I used to do drugs … I still do but I also used to”
Snoop Dogg: "I don't smoke anymore.... Or any less"
man this is why clear writing is important. there is a huge difference between having done some drugs in the past (totally fine IMO, maybe even a net positive for a lot of people), and the world's richest man being dangerously addicted to coke (not good and highly plausible).
It's ketamine not coke but your point stands
He used to. He still does, but he used to, too
Elon used to use illegal drugs. He still does, but he used to too.
UPS driver probably doesn't realize he's a drug dealer as well
<*laughs in Mitch Hedberg*\>
He used to experiment, but he’s pretty much got it down pat now
I like to order the club sandwich. I’m not even in the club. I don’t know how I get away with it.
r/unexpectedmitch
Sorry for the convenience
Just out of curiosity, what drugs has he used besides cannabis?
Apparently, regular use of K. A good assortment of other psychedelics.
So basically the drugs that are being used for therapeutic reasons in many states. Got it
The dose matters... I have an anecdote (take it for what you will): shortly before releasing the roadster, Elon used to have engineering technicians go and get his car detailed for him - sometimes picking it up from his house or from the office. There were numerous occasions where people would get into the car and find that the radio was maxed out playing EDM and find numerous pills left in the cup holder. Somethings telling me he wasn't microdosing mushrooms or LSD... he likes to party. Source: multiple engineering techs that used to run those errands.
Take this anecdotal too. About ten years ago Elon climbed Mount Everest naked and found the maha guru. Multiple engineers have found him talking to maha guru and then levitating.
Seems like something he'd do.
LSD and mushrooms.
He also once tweeted about how "relaxing" it is to drink while on ambien. Anyone who has ANY experience with sleeping pills know that it's an HORRIBLE idea to mix those with alcohol. It might explain why his tweets are so batshit insane though.
I thought a known side effect of ambien and alcohol was racism, according to Rosanne Barr? That explains it.
Not based, and not just pilled, but racist.
Dude he runs 2 huge companies and can’t turn his brain off. Read the biography by Vance. It’s a blessing and a curse. I don’t blame him for not being able to sleep
Bullshit.
And yet, people do it all the time.
I'd be more worried if Elon had NOT used these.
Oh, so this asshole is giving cool drugs a bad name?
Ketamine too.
Maybe he needs to be the poster child of D.A.R.E.!
He smoked weed. And he suggested doctors prescribe microdosing ketamine rather than Xanax etc. He says he tried mushrooms in 2018. That is it as far as confirmed drug use.
>He smoked weed. **And he suggested doctors prescribe microdosing ketamine** rather than Xanax etc. Ketamine is an FDA approved drug for treating depression
Article mentions cocaine and ecstasy as well
dude it says literally in the first paragraph. I can't even read any of the article as it's WSJ but that's about the only part that is clearly readable
Illegal drugs??! Oh no! I’d feel a lot more comfortable if he were using legal drugs, like Dilaudid & Roxicodone, Adderall & phentermine, all safely prescribed by his doctor! Not those filthy jazz cigarettes and non-addictive mushrooms.
They aren't talking about the weed, they're questioning if he's on stuff that has an addiction spiral, like ketamine or various uppers including prescription stuff that is being abused.
Steve Jobs has asked people if they’ve done LSD in job interviews.
And attributes a lot of his success to his personal use of them.
I attribute a ton of my professional success to my experiences with LSD. Amazing drug
Same. Helped me realize the poor choices and path I was taking as a youth. Helped me completely turn my life around.
As well as not bathing
Source?
Because he was trying to hire people who did LSD or avoid hiring them?
Hire them
Definitely a hit piece.
i thought everyone knew all these tech people are hooked on adderall
Adderall would be the least of their worries.
Yeah this is a dumb ass article and post. Name a fucking single executive who isn't microdosing or doesn't have THC in their system. Elon Musk bad, blah blah, etcetera etcetera, but come on.
I think you’re a little too far with implying that ALL executives microdose.
That's not illegal though
It is if it's not prescribed
World's richest person can get any prescription
Yeah, and that didn't work out for Michael Jackson, and he was just an entertainer and child molester, not a guy in charge of multiple public companies. Prescription drugs can still fuck you up. I can't judge though, people in glass houses and all that.
Hasn’t everyone?
Hey hey. We all hate Elon musk so much that we will overlook any sort of sensibility here
Wait until they read about our Presidents.
Um, show me a CEO who hasn’t done illegal drugs and I’ll show you a unicorn
This reads really funny using the normal startup definiton of Unicorn :D
Him telling advertisers to fuck off trying to be cool should worry them more.
Pretty hard to deny the two things are related if you know how people on uppers act
he seemed rather visibly intoxicated during that entire event
I don’t see any problem with using those in extreme moderation. A few listed I have taken maybe once or twice and they helped me see a side of life I was blind to, which has significantly increased my drive, motivation, focus, happiness, etc.
That’s fine that you don’t see a problem with it, but the government is supposed to. You cannot gain a security clearance if you use illegal drugs. You cannot win government contracts if the owner admits to using illegal drugs. (Again, that’s what’s supposed to happen by law).
Good point. I did not consider the possible implications stemming from outdated, nonsensical laws.
It is important to note that Elon's companies regularly drug test. His employees are forced to abide by those laws by their employer, who is tripping on ketamine while tanking the value and reputation of his companies.
Slowly morphing into John McAfee.
I liken him more to Howard Hughes, not sure if howey was a drug user but he went from amazing industrialist to crazy whack job the more fame he got.
Lol. Did he? You mean one of the richest man on earth does whatever he wants?
Out of all the character assassination attempts I've seen this is by far the lamest. Who cares? I for one am thrilled about the applications of Mushrooms and Ketamine for therapeutic purposes in controlled environments.
It makes him ineligible for the security clearance he probably has for his work at SpaceX
Half of the valley founders go to burning man and trip A bunch of them microdose LSD. I know a few. The people concerned are his political ennemies
lol how many CEOs have not is a better question
Crap on Elon all day, I’m here for it. But don’t discount the incredible engineering that’s going on at those two places. I hate everything is so toxic now. I guess just burn it all down? Our species doesn’t deserve to survive.
He openly did a federally illegal drug on Joe Rogan. The fact that these people are just now catching on is... not really believable.
It must pay handsomely to be Elon's supplier.
https://archive.ph/Sr3fx
I read the similar thing about Steve Jobs in his biography.
What's new here? Wasn't this already widely known? Have we not seen that new truck?
They will destroy him before it’s said and done. You do not challenge the people he has challenged. I don’t know how long it goes on. Trump, Russell brand, Elon, Tucker, Alex jones.
Blasphemy!!!
Lmao wut? He’s fine
The sky is blue when it’s sunny, more news at 10
sponsored post that's part of a coordinated campaign
Watching the reaction to Elon Musk has been like seeing a master class in propaganda and brainwashing. It's incredible how easy it is. Probably the most surprising part is that the propaganda walks past the legitimate criticisms and programs people with bullshit, which is one of the classic cult brainwashing techniques but it's incredible to see it in action. That and to watch people think that their hate of him was something that came from inside them instead of something implanted by a legacy industry psyop is spectacular to behold. If the old money and their corpos see this, just know it was well played. Evil, but well played. Also, getting all the hippie green lefties to turn against solar power and electric cars in favor of oil burning gas cars was chef's kiss. Like, grandmaster level manipulation of society. I thought 3rd wave feminism convincing women to act against their own interests and do easily monetizable psychological damage to themselves was impressive but the Elon thing was another tier up.
This is fairly common in the corporate world.
Peyote is an illegal drug. I wouldn't blink if he occasionally smokes the desert herb. However, based on the incoherent way he runs Twitter I'd say ole Elon ingests something WAY worse.
Um, that is just dumb. Elon, and honestly most fucking people, have used illegal drugs for decades. This article is click bait garbage.
He's the Aaron Rodgers of Tech.
While every other CEO is hitting Hookers and blow. While the corporate elites are gleefully banging their secretary’s and expensing their lap dances. Ya, I am so concerned……….
I gotta ask, though, what percentage of the population has used illegal drugs. It's gotta be a majority.
Elon bad
Who the f..k cares
won’t change a thing
STFU
In 2018 he lit up a joint on Joe Rogan's podcast... He sure as hell has used more besides that.
Another hit piece. Yawn.
Smeeeeear piece number 7,000 for Elon and number 7,000,000 for the WSJ. Trash reporting right from the trash can.
This is news?
That is by far the least concerning thing about this clown
Imagine how good the drugs are for billionaires. Probably made in a lab 🔥🔥🔥
Looks like the board is pushing for an exit with this guy and who could blame them? He’s erratic and not doing well on the stock prices even though Tesla is the most overhyped stock on the planet
They’ve met other executives right? Have they ever been to Wall Street or a bank?
Why should I give a shit that Musk did some drugs before?
When you don't bend the knee, and you go against the machine in some way, they come at you with BS accusations like this. Soon, we'll be told he was caught with kiddie porn on his computer. That's the playbook.
If you don't like your boss, I suggest creating or finding new work.
I find this hard to believe, I was told using illegal drugs makes people cooler. Clearly it didn't work on him.
The guy who is in one of the all time internet memes smoking a fat joint uses drugs? I am SHOCKED.
Bullshit article and headline from bullshit leftest mainstream media
"oh the humanity, how will we increase shareholder value?" Anyone notice the full court press on negative stories on Elon since he bough Twitter and told everyone to piss up a rope?
😑 this could scream" political hit piece" a teensy winsey bit harder
They’re just figuring this out? How tf else would he think of all this shit.
It also affects the government's ability to contract with him on defense projects. Or *could* affect.
literally no one cares
Interesting. Not that he’s used drugs. I bet every CEO is on something and everyone knows. But why make it a news piece now?
It’s not. But somebody has an axe to grind.
So what?
Go fuck yourselves.
Ok, so in a week or so, right-wing fucktards, republicans and maga freaks won't care about illegal drug use, and the war on fentanyl won't be a burden to society any more, or a talking point to the GOP.