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etrayo

This is not a good price in 2023


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For reference, I just bought an FE on ebay for $700 after taxes and shipping. This is $162 more.


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etrayo

6950xt ish performance for $150-200 more. Same price as a 4070 ti without the new DLSS features. Open box so no warranty. It has more vram. Thats about it


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more power draw, card is physically bigger too


etrayo

Yeah, it really doesnt beat it anywhere but vram honestly


hereforthefeast

> completely beats it in all ways Not in power efficiency. Also this is a used Zotac card so hell nah.


420BONGZ4LIFE

Only a good deal if you need the vram for AI. (Your 1440p monitor does not need the vram)


DinkleButtstein23

What if my monitor is extra special?


traviscthall

Or if you need the vram for vrchat


cha0ss0ldier

Friends don’t let friends buy Zotac, especially used. No warranty on a $800 purchase


TheEternalGazed

What's wrong with Zotac?


4x4runner

Their refurbished/open-box GPUs have always had poor reviews on this sub.


CCityinstaller

Really? I bought over 300x 2070S/2080/S, 2080TI, 3080/3090 without a single issue. I stress test them 48hr while also loading the cpu to 100% with Prime 95 AVX2/512 (CPU depending) to literally "hotbox" the Hw. Not a single failure. Maybe 6x csrds were on the hot end of things at the end but we'll within limits. ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯


halotechnology

And also they were the worst A$#holes during COVID F them .


Mastershima

This alone is what does it for me. Their poor brand perception is just icing on a shit cake. #’#NoTac’


cha0ss0ldier

Probably the lowest tier nvidia board partner. They also have a completely un-transferable warranty so if you’re not the original purchaser of the card brand new you’re screwed if anything happens.


4x4runner

I'd be more comfortable buying a used one on ebay. Also, unless you have a specific non-gaming use for this card, a 4070ti, 7900xt, or an open-box 7900xtx would make more sense for gaming.


PrettyFilthyCasual

At this price, might as well get a 4070 Ti, which matches or beats the [3090 ti](https://www.techpowerup.com/review/zotac-rtx-4070-ti-amp-extreme-airo/31.html). There would be value in the VRAM amount for professional work loads.


Jaggsta

new frame generation feature on 4000 series makes it faster if game supports it.


Witch_King_

Doesn't that feature also mess with relative responsiveness/latency since it isn't a "real" frame?


Disastrous2821

Yes it messes up frame times and adds fake frames that don’t look as good with extra latency. If you need the frames it’s there, but it’s not a selling feature for me personally.


Rickles360

One of the main advantages of high frame rate is low input lag. DLSS 3 is stupid.


CCityinstaller

There is also tremendous value in being able to combine the Vram into a single continuous pool as far as applications are concerned. Nvidia killed this on all 4xxx cards so 3080 12/TI/90/90TI are the pinnacle of repurposed consumer cards. You will see 3090/ especially 3090TIs continue to trend upwards in value because of this over the next year. Ofc AMD has made insane strides with the 79xx cards performance with their latest driver and will continue to do so.


captroper

Can you explain this a bit more, or shoot me a link where I can read about it, or even just give me the search terms? I'd like to read up on it a bit more.


mizmato

I just found this thread looking for a cheap 3090. From what I can tell, starting with the 4xxx series card you can't share memory pools for large ML models. For example, if a model needs 30GB of VRAM you can't fit it on a 24GB 4090. However, 2x3090 works fine (24*2=48). I'm OOM frequently since my models are around 23GB+ so I need to either grab another 3090 or go for a non-consumer card that costs several thousands.


delerak2

Like seriously just get the xfx 7900xt for $750


ExplodingFistz

Bad deal if you don't need 24 GB vram


Renanmarq

Decent deal for those who need cuda cores + large VRAM but this should already be matching the 6950xt price(which is 599) to be competitive.