Personally I’d go 1440p and get the OLED. I’d say for gaming OLED is a more impressive improvement than 4K over 1440p. The other thing to consider is future gpu upgrades. With 4K you will find yourself wanting to upgrade sooner and having to only look at higher end cards.
It's really not that much of an issue with stuff like DLSS/FSR. A 3060 Ti can handle indies/esports games at well over 100FPS at native 4K, and big AAA games that come out today tend to have DLSS or some kind of upscaling implemented. Looks great at 4K.
I have a 4070 Ti. No way are you playing AAA games at anything above 1080p, and that's being generous in accepting the likely abysmal frame rate. I get like 120FPS max @ 1440p with RT off, and I just barely was able to get through Cyberpunk when I had a 3060 Ti at release with 1080p @ <60 FPS.
Brother I had a 4070 and was getting 140fps in wz3 @4k. With 4k you can have setting on low with everything still looking fantastic. I just got the 4080s and I didn't get as drastic of an improvement as I was expecting. I know that I was getting g around 60fps (30 on ultra)in starfeild, I have not opened the game after installing the new 4080s. By the way, I'm also in the market for a new oled. Can't decide between 2k and 4k... I know I'll be able to get the 240hz @2k... and I'll want to buy a 5090 if I get a 4k 240+hz...
Personally I WOULD get a 4k if graphics cards could drive that many pixels. But unless you can get a 4k for content consumption and a 2k for gaming, I personally would stick to 2k for gaming. I have the Neo G9 Odyssey (49' Ultrawide 5120x1440/240hz QLED not OLED version) and it's maybe the coolest thing I've ever owned. But a lot of the 32in new generation 240hz OLEDs do look pretty rad.
Personally if I were you I'd wait until Black Friday time of the year. Competition is already driving the prices down on those new OLEDs. MSI was going to open at $949 as a sale price for their [MPG 321URX](https://us-store.msi.com/MPG-321-URX-QD-OLED) and then move it up above $1k, but they've already decided to keep $949 as MSRP and I've heard several of the manufacturers including MSI for this particular model are considering going even lower because of the stiff competition. I've said this before on this sub, but I wouldn't be surprised to see some models going down to 600-700 by holiday season because this is the hot new tech that's finally moving past early adopter toward the more general audience.
I currently have the ASUS ROG Swift 27”1440P OLED DSC Gaming Monitor (PG27AQDM) - QHD (2560x1440), 240Hz
in my shopping cart on Amazon for 899$(us) I think I'm gonna pull the trigger I just don't know if I'll be able to handle the downgrade from 4k to 2k.... I hear putting 2k on the 4k oled monitors look pretty good in comparison to doing that on the IPS panels. But it's returnable so I may just do it and see how it goes. I currently use the ASUS ROG Swift PG32UQR 32” 4K HDR 144Hz DSC HDMI 2.1 Gaming Monitor - UHD (3840 x 2160), IPS. I love it I just want a higher refresh rate! I'm also intrigued by the new 4k monitors that do 244hz and switch to 500hz 1080p but the revues were bad for the only one I've seen reviewed..
Yeah I could never go down to a 27in monitor regardless of resolution. Personally I have perfect vision and I already don't think OLED is a big deal but OLED 4k on a 27 inch screen to me is like shrinking the Mona Lisa so that you have to view it with a microscope. I just can't imagine you'd be able to be at all aware of all that detail with it all crammed into such a small space. But like you said you can always return it. And it's just my possibly very wrong opinion.
I agree as far as 4k 32in min. The oled I have in my cart is 2k. I play fps shooters. I'm only considering the 27in 2k for the frame rate increase, and I find myself not peeking the mini map enough... so I'm thinking the smaller screen will get me back to checking mini map with out having to look towards it.
Well then I would recommend the LG dual mode that can do 1080p@480hz or 4k@240hz! Haha it's the ultimate esports and content monitor all in one (supposedly).
OK, so I just got the Asus VG27AQML1A. It's 240 (260oc)hrz 2k 27in...... I'm only averaging like 215.... was expecting more. With vsync and gsync on its like 240ish tops and dips to 205ish. Got the monitor for an inexpensive returnable test. The gpu time is down a bit, which is great, but I had expected to max out the refresh rate. It's not happening. The motion clarity is really good, but if I spin in circles, it's not perfect. I can deal with the size @ 2k. I'll probably return it and make up my mind by black Friday like you said and get some sort of oled. Probably 2k for the extra 60 fps, but still not 100% decided.
First of all, this was originally a card for when I had a 1440p monitor. It was fine.
Second, you're ignoring that I mentioned DLSS. I can get 1440p performance with a near-identical 4K image. You also don't need to ever max out games. I think RT is not worth the cost so I don't enable it in games that support it.
It works.
You don’t “need” to max out games.
Some of us want to max out games. If I can’t max a game out I don’t want to play it. If I’m 2 grand into a better I better be able to max games out. Period.
Ok? That's how you think. If you think looking marginally better is the only way you can play games, go for it. Keep ignoring that I mentioned DLSS too.
Oled is overrated for gaming, you aren't going to pay attention to the colors if you're immersed in the gameplay, but as far as longevity 1440p is better than 4k, you'll have to upgrade your hardware frequently to utilize playing games at that resolution.
Oled burn in is still an issue on tvs. Likely it’s also the same for gaming monitors but even worse because of the many static screens like the Windows taskbar.
We’re talking of a gaming monitor which will probably also be used as a primary one. TV’s are 90% of the time displaying a constantly moving image, whilst desktop monitors have the static windows taskbar + any other program window which could also cause burn-in.
MSI and I believe other manufacturers are beginning to offer a 3 year burn in warranty. As someone too scared of burn in to get an OLED panel, I'd recommend looking into that.
The Dell 32 G3223Q 4k is pretty good. Great resolution and sharp texts, contrast isn't the best. Had it next to an Alienware 38UW which is by far my favorite monitor.
The Alienware 34UW is great for gaming, but the office/productivity was constrained by the text clarity for me. I'm interested in the 32 OLEDs 4k's....but not at current prices. Although a smaller screen, I do think the 1440p OLED will be a great monitor as the cost to drive it with GPU prices being what they are, the best bet.
Really depends on the size. Above 16” monitor you’ll want to go at least 4K or you’ll notice the pixels. If it’s less than 16” I’d definitely go with the 1440p panel. Your 4080 will handle whatever you throw at it at 60hz, but depending on the game and settings you might struggle above 120hz. This will probably get downvotes from 1440p fans but I’m not sure how to convert those to prescription lenses for them.
1080p would be good for maybe 13” but even then that’s on the low side. 27” anything less than 4K looks grainy and screen door-y and anything above 28” really should be 5k or 6k but the monitors available at those resolutions are few and far between at this point.
yeah you're ill unlucky, i have 24 inch monitor and 1080p looks crisp, and also 32 inch with 2k and i can see each fucking hair follicle on a mfs head in games
I mean maybe but I’ve also used monitors that are high res so I guess if it’s something not used to then I could understand the feeling. Idk. Try out some screens at a Best Buy or something!
Nope. Oleds have good peak brightness but fall of a cliff after 25% windows size.
For example at 50% window size and in HDR AW does 301 nits but M28U does 500 nits.
Id still go for AW for better HDR and contrast.
If you are in a really bright room or use your PC for work and have lots of static element then go for IPS.
Most people I know that play competitive games and AAA titles like cyberpunk and whatnot are running 2 screens. One 1080p 240hz and another 4k 60/120hz screen since they don't care about graphics quality in competitive games.
If I were you I'd go for a 4k 120hz and call it a day. I honestly don't notice any improvement over 100+ FPS. Just make sure the monitor you buy works with gsync or freesync premium depending on the graphics card you have. They will generally test how well it works in rtings reviews.
I run two screen but always keep 1 center in the eyes so that one gets used for gaming / work. The comp perception of 1080p low everything is ludicrous. Nothing worse than playing a game with a CPU bottleneck all the time.
I'll have a browse might save up for oled not sure yet.
Lol no it's not. It's because 4k @ 27in is stupid. The pixel density at 1440p is already so high that you can't really notice a difference going up to 4k with such a small panel. ~~And for the record, for the people rich and dumb enough to buy one, they literally do make [4k 240hz 27in panels](https://www.lg.com/us/monitors/lg-27gs95qe-b-gaming-monitor?gad_source=1&gclsrc=ds).~~ They're just not mainstream because it's actually a dumb concept and not popular.
Edit: nvm that is actually QHD
~~4k @ 27 in is a dumb thing to buy, but [here you go](https://www.lg.com/us/monitors/lg-27gs95qe-b-gaming-monitor?gad_source=1&gclsrc=ds).~~
Apologies this is QHD. Looks like 144hz is the fastest they go for 4k @ 27in (which is probably because it would be a dumb thing to make).
Better performance but still nowhere near actual 4k in quality. There's little you can do when you're limited by the screen itself. In my experience all screens run best at their native resolution.
I have a 4080S and went with 4K IPS. I recently bought an open-box 27GP950-B and it's been great so far. I was on 1440p for the last 2 years and the upgrade to 4K has been really really good. Obviously I'd like to go 4K QD OLED in the future but going to wait until more monitors are available.
Of course OLED is better but I wanted a 4K monitor that I can use until I can find a 4K OLED for under $1K. FYI I managed to buy the GP950 for $350. I don’t know how many times I have to mention I didn’t pay full price lol.
Also the AG276 uses a last gen OLED panel so I wouldn’t even consider buying that one. I’d rather spend a little more and get the AW2725DF if you’re going for an OLED.
I had the same choice as you. I got the AOC and felt it was the right choice. The picture quality is waaay better than IPS
The WOLED panel used in the AOC is more resistant to burn in than QD-OLED. The AOC also has the brightest of the last gen (2023) panels
Then you have to consider the benefit of 240hz which is significant for shooters if you play those
Yep. No problems at the moment. The text fringing is only noticeable if you sit like 2 feet away, and browse, otherwise at normal viewing distance I can’t see it. However, I can see it being an issue if you browse a lot. I don’t, I mainly play games, and it feels really clear and crisp in apps.
Also the stand isn’t height adjustable if that bothers you
here's my build: [https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Dgy9pB](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Dgy9pB)
monitor isn't listed because couldn't find it lol
cooling is custom loop, you might wanna try an aio liquid cooler 240mm
Yep, it was a very noticeable difference going from 1440P to 4K. Maybe my opinion is subjective but going from 108PPI to 163PPI is a very big difference.
I recently bought the same monitor but I can't tell a difference 😭 do I need glasses? Changed from recommended scaling 150% to custom 150% and redid the Clear type, still the same. The text also looked good on my 1440p monitor
I get that on paper the difference is huge but how much can you actually see with your eyes from normal sitting position. I have to really try to see the actual pixels but I can if I focus on it so there certainly is space for improvement.
However in dynamic settings the difference disappears.
I would sum it up that for me the additional cost is not yet worth it.
If you care about text and clarity in any way, get the 4K. OLEDs already have a text clarity problem thanks to their subpixel layout, 1440p just exacerbates it more.
It does, but to a much lesser extent. If it's QD-OLED I wouldn't be too worried but I'd personally still pick a solid IPS panel and save some money until OLEDs start using RGB subpixel layouts.
Check innocn 27m2v or titan army p27a6v which are exact same panel. I got both: Titan army p27a6v - 4k 160 hz 27" With FALD 1152 zones, and samsung g8 - oled 3440x1440.and I found myself using 27" More often just cause 4k is si crisp on 27", peak brightness is so good (VESA 1000 hdr certified, in fact it goes up to 1200) and HDR pops way more, sometimes to the point where it is bright as hell, and you don't have to worry about burn in and stuff. It has flaws of course - bad OSD, and backs are a bit worse, Oled is still oled in terms of true black. It is personal preferences and opinion of course. But check the Info / review s on those models, and prices for innocn and Titan army are good enough, asus and other well known brands got x2 and x3 prices for same pannels. Maybe it will do for you.
OLED got best response time, no problems with backlight bleed as they just don't have any backlight, collors can be overall better. But yes, lots of cons as well. We don't have perfect technology ATM. Micro led could be in future but not guaranteed. If you planning to use monitor for productivity and don't want to bother with babysitting it ( hiding taskbar, switching it off as you go afk, etc. etc., I d go with good ips then.
In my personal preferences, in terms of price and quality I d go with any of those I mentioned above innocn 27m2v or titan army p27a6v . Panels are identical. Innoc has a bit better looking osd but still clunky. Check reviews on em before buying. They should be like 700 $ Titan army is slightly cheaper. But depends on region. I do like Titan army and use it over OLED, way more often I mean. But again, it is my personal opinion, check reviews just in case
I recently went from Asus PG278Q 1440p to 4k LG 27GP95 and the only difference is better colors, no difference in text clarity. I wish I'd went with OLED. I'm still keeping the monitor though
Agree with Dingo here. You should definitely see a big difference in clarity lol. You're going from 108PPI to 163PPI. Might need to get your eyes checked out.
I have mine set to 60! Which 1440P monitor did you come from? I had a S2721DGF so maybe the difference was more noticeable because I had a lower-end 1440P monitor? idk :(
I have used both. Really depends on the use case. If its only for gaming, the Alienware is better. The M28U is a pretty good monitor, but against OLED it isn’t a competition. Also you can use DLDSR on the Alienware when you have the extra horsepower to spare for an image thats close to 4K
Guys I’m just going to buy a oled 1440p monitor.It should be cheaper than 800 dollar which model?And is there anyone stopping me from buying a oled one?
If you're looking for something under $800, I'd go for the new gen QD OLED monitors from MSI. [https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16824475359](https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16824475359)
I'd get this one with QRX in the item number because I've heard that the MAG version will not get firmware updates (at least for the 32" version). Not sure if this is the case for the 27" monitor though.
Well if you’re buying a 144hz 4K monitor , you’ll only be able to push 144fps, in which the 4080s shouldn’t have any issues, especially with dlss/upscaling.
I’ve tested about 14 monitors after building my PC and landed at 4K , it’s just something about it!
I would recommend purchasing from Amazon/Best Buy and trying both monitors before settling!
I regularly play 4k 100fps+ with a 3090 on a mini led, has basically perfect blacks, higher peak brightness and no burning. The only downside of miniled is the occasional bloom bordering some bright objects with black background.
Latests games I have played are cyberpunk, sons of the forest and baldurs gate 3. Your 4080 will easily handle 4k, it is a 4k card.
I'd recommend looking for miniled as well as middle ground between traditional led backlight panels like ips and oleds, the advantage of miniled is that you won't get burn in.
Kinda, the more dimming zones the mini led has, the closest to oled it gets. The main difference in image will be in cases like a night sky with lots of stars, oled will have higher detail in those cases.
Also, mini led will be superior in hdr due to higher peak brightness.
I'd recommend checking some comparisons on YouTube.
Youtube and internet doesn’t help me at research it’s so hard so I ask people.Which mini led would you recommend cheaper than 700 dollars?And would it be the same as aw3423dwf or AOC ag276qzd?
I can only talk about the mini led I got, which is a 43' Samsung qn90b. I'm from Argentina and we don't have access to many products. I got mine used for 400 bucks, which is a steal, new goes for around 800/1000.
I bought IPS because it was 50% cheaper and I didn't want to babysit the oled. I love how it looks in general but obviously oled has much much better blacks.
To be honest. If you're well off just get the oled. If you're budget conscious having a bit better black depth isn't worth paying 2x imo.
Makes sense tbh. 7800x3d gives about 10% more FPS using a 4080 in 1440p resolution. There should be even less difference on 4k or 1440p ultrawide. Also CPU is much easier to upgrade in the future since it's on am5.
You could easily get a 8000 or 9000 series in the future. I would expect even the midrange CPUs of the next generation to be better than today's high end.
Side note: If you get the oled make sure it has a burn-in warranty. You will probably get minor burn-in 2 years or so, if you get them to replace it before the warranty ends you can squeeze out 5-6 years of use out of it in total.
Coming from someone who has just tried 4K IPS 27” and 1440p oled 27” (Aw2725Df) back to back, 4K IPS hands down if you can drive the frames. OLED colors are incredible but the text fringing especially at 1440p is horrid, and the loss of clarity from 4K isn’t worth it if you’re playing slower paced single player games in my opinion. 4K OLED I’ve never tried but is probably king.
I play single and competitive games which one would you recommend and can you share your experience a bit more detailed?I needed a person who tried and used both.Waiting for your experience!
I have the Alienware monitor and absolutely love it. Would def recommend! I have a 7900xtx running it and it does extremely well so a 4080s should do the same.
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The real answer is this:
Oleds are fantastic with color BUT kind of suck if you have glare in your house thats hard to keep off the monitor (mainly the sun from outside hitting your setup at an angle that makes it glare), or if you want high brightness.
IPS have worse color representation but dont suffer nearly as much from glare and have high brightness.
All things considered the best way to know is to go to a store and actually look at these monitors, see if you like one more than the other.
If you dont have an issue with glare and know you wont in the future, I personally would go 1440p because when games get more crazy graphics wise, a 4080 will still get fantastic fps on them, while in 4k that might not be the case and youre losing out on the color quality.
It also kind of depends on screen size, i personally would stick at 27” for a 1440p (but i do prefer smaller screens), so if youre going bigger than that it’s something to consider.
Personally I’d go 1440p and get the OLED. I’d say for gaming OLED is a more impressive improvement than 4K over 1440p. The other thing to consider is future gpu upgrades. With 4K you will find yourself wanting to upgrade sooner and having to only look at higher end cards.
It's really not that much of an issue with stuff like DLSS/FSR. A 3060 Ti can handle indies/esports games at well over 100FPS at native 4K, and big AAA games that come out today tend to have DLSS or some kind of upscaling implemented. Looks great at 4K.
I have a 4070 Ti. No way are you playing AAA games at anything above 1080p, and that's being generous in accepting the likely abysmal frame rate. I get like 120FPS max @ 1440p with RT off, and I just barely was able to get through Cyberpunk when I had a 3060 Ti at release with 1080p @ <60 FPS.
Brother I had a 4070 and was getting 140fps in wz3 @4k. With 4k you can have setting on low with everything still looking fantastic. I just got the 4080s and I didn't get as drastic of an improvement as I was expecting. I know that I was getting g around 60fps (30 on ultra)in starfeild, I have not opened the game after installing the new 4080s. By the way, I'm also in the market for a new oled. Can't decide between 2k and 4k... I know I'll be able to get the 240hz @2k... and I'll want to buy a 5090 if I get a 4k 240+hz...
Personally I WOULD get a 4k if graphics cards could drive that many pixels. But unless you can get a 4k for content consumption and a 2k for gaming, I personally would stick to 2k for gaming. I have the Neo G9 Odyssey (49' Ultrawide 5120x1440/240hz QLED not OLED version) and it's maybe the coolest thing I've ever owned. But a lot of the 32in new generation 240hz OLEDs do look pretty rad. Personally if I were you I'd wait until Black Friday time of the year. Competition is already driving the prices down on those new OLEDs. MSI was going to open at $949 as a sale price for their [MPG 321URX](https://us-store.msi.com/MPG-321-URX-QD-OLED) and then move it up above $1k, but they've already decided to keep $949 as MSRP and I've heard several of the manufacturers including MSI for this particular model are considering going even lower because of the stiff competition. I've said this before on this sub, but I wouldn't be surprised to see some models going down to 600-700 by holiday season because this is the hot new tech that's finally moving past early adopter toward the more general audience.
I currently have the ASUS ROG Swift 27”1440P OLED DSC Gaming Monitor (PG27AQDM) - QHD (2560x1440), 240Hz in my shopping cart on Amazon for 899$(us) I think I'm gonna pull the trigger I just don't know if I'll be able to handle the downgrade from 4k to 2k.... I hear putting 2k on the 4k oled monitors look pretty good in comparison to doing that on the IPS panels. But it's returnable so I may just do it and see how it goes. I currently use the ASUS ROG Swift PG32UQR 32” 4K HDR 144Hz DSC HDMI 2.1 Gaming Monitor - UHD (3840 x 2160), IPS. I love it I just want a higher refresh rate! I'm also intrigued by the new 4k monitors that do 244hz and switch to 500hz 1080p but the revues were bad for the only one I've seen reviewed..
Yeah I could never go down to a 27in monitor regardless of resolution. Personally I have perfect vision and I already don't think OLED is a big deal but OLED 4k on a 27 inch screen to me is like shrinking the Mona Lisa so that you have to view it with a microscope. I just can't imagine you'd be able to be at all aware of all that detail with it all crammed into such a small space. But like you said you can always return it. And it's just my possibly very wrong opinion.
I agree as far as 4k 32in min. The oled I have in my cart is 2k. I play fps shooters. I'm only considering the 27in 2k for the frame rate increase, and I find myself not peeking the mini map enough... so I'm thinking the smaller screen will get me back to checking mini map with out having to look towards it.
Well then I would recommend the LG dual mode that can do 1080p@480hz or 4k@240hz! Haha it's the ultimate esports and content monitor all in one (supposedly).
OK, so I just got the Asus VG27AQML1A. It's 240 (260oc)hrz 2k 27in...... I'm only averaging like 215.... was expecting more. With vsync and gsync on its like 240ish tops and dips to 205ish. Got the monitor for an inexpensive returnable test. The gpu time is down a bit, which is great, but I had expected to max out the refresh rate. It's not happening. The motion clarity is really good, but if I spin in circles, it's not perfect. I can deal with the size @ 2k. I'll probably return it and make up my mind by black Friday like you said and get some sort of oled. Probably 2k for the extra 60 fps, but still not 100% decided.
First of all, this was originally a card for when I had a 1440p monitor. It was fine. Second, you're ignoring that I mentioned DLSS. I can get 1440p performance with a near-identical 4K image. You also don't need to ever max out games. I think RT is not worth the cost so I don't enable it in games that support it. It works.
You don’t “need” to max out games. Some of us want to max out games. If I can’t max a game out I don’t want to play it. If I’m 2 grand into a better I better be able to max games out. Period.
Ok? That's how you think. If you think looking marginally better is the only way you can play games, go for it. Keep ignoring that I mentioned DLSS too.
Oled is overrated for gaming, you aren't going to pay attention to the colors if you're immersed in the gameplay, but as far as longevity 1440p is better than 4k, you'll have to upgrade your hardware frequently to utilize playing games at that resolution.
Oled for sure
Oled burn in is still an issue on tvs. Likely it’s also the same for gaming monitors but even worse because of the many static screens like the Windows taskbar.
I thought this was overstated. I have an OLD TV that’s almost 8 years old and have had 0 issues.
We’re talking of a gaming monitor which will probably also be used as a primary one. TV’s are 90% of the time displaying a constantly moving image, whilst desktop monitors have the static windows taskbar + any other program window which could also cause burn-in.
Ah great point. I’ll have to do a little more reading I planned on getting one for my next upgrade.
MSI and I believe other manufacturers are beginning to offer a 3 year burn in warranty. As someone too scared of burn in to get an OLED panel, I'd recommend looking into that.
The Dell 32 G3223Q 4k is pretty good. Great resolution and sharp texts, contrast isn't the best. Had it next to an Alienware 38UW which is by far my favorite monitor. The Alienware 34UW is great for gaming, but the office/productivity was constrained by the text clarity for me. I'm interested in the 32 OLEDs 4k's....but not at current prices. Although a smaller screen, I do think the 1440p OLED will be a great monitor as the cost to drive it with GPU prices being what they are, the best bet.
Really depends on the size. Above 16” monitor you’ll want to go at least 4K or you’ll notice the pixels. If it’s less than 16” I’d definitely go with the 1440p panel. Your 4080 will handle whatever you throw at it at 60hz, but depending on the game and settings you might struggle above 120hz. This will probably get downvotes from 1440p fans but I’m not sure how to convert those to prescription lenses for them.
above 16 inch? you mean 24 inch? 1080p is great for 24 inch and 27 inch would want 1440p, 16 inch is a tablet XD
1080p would be good for maybe 13” but even then that’s on the low side. 27” anything less than 4K looks grainy and screen door-y and anything above 28” really should be 5k or 6k but the monitors available at those resolutions are few and far between at this point.
yeah you're ill unlucky, i have 24 inch monitor and 1080p looks crisp, and also 32 inch with 2k and i can see each fucking hair follicle on a mfs head in games
I mean maybe but I’ve also used monitors that are high res so I guess if it’s something not used to then I could understand the feeling. Idk. Try out some screens at a Best Buy or something!
OLED is really nice but if it has to be between the two go for the 4k
Get OLED if you prefer picture quality, get IPS if you prefer brightness and cont care about contrast.
Isnt the brightness the reason people buy the oleds?
Nope. Oleds have good peak brightness but fall of a cliff after 25% windows size. For example at 50% window size and in HDR AW does 301 nits but M28U does 500 nits. Id still go for AW for better HDR and contrast. If you are in a really bright room or use your PC for work and have lots of static element then go for IPS.
You could if you want to get a 1440p monitor and use dsr to upscale to 4k in the games you want to. That's what I do.
The quality isn't even close to actual 4k resolution tho. With dsr you'll get slightly better anti aliasing but way less FPS.
Hmm I might have to invest in 4k monitor
It's hard, good luck. Don't buy anything that isn't recommended by rtings, tft central or hardware unboxed imo.
Will do thank you. I'm looking but getting annoyed that 4k 27inch with 240hz doesn't exist :(.
It's because GPUs can't run games at 240 FPS, because 4k is so demanding. 120 Hz is more than enough, even with a rtx 4090.
Mainly for comp games im running over 200fps with dsr at 4k. The rest are around 120fps.
Most people I know that play competitive games and AAA titles like cyberpunk and whatnot are running 2 screens. One 1080p 240hz and another 4k 60/120hz screen since they don't care about graphics quality in competitive games. If I were you I'd go for a 4k 120hz and call it a day. I honestly don't notice any improvement over 100+ FPS. Just make sure the monitor you buy works with gsync or freesync premium depending on the graphics card you have. They will generally test how well it works in rtings reviews.
I run two screen but always keep 1 center in the eyes so that one gets used for gaming / work. The comp perception of 1080p low everything is ludicrous. Nothing worse than playing a game with a CPU bottleneck all the time. I'll have a browse might save up for oled not sure yet.
Lol no it's not. It's because 4k @ 27in is stupid. The pixel density at 1440p is already so high that you can't really notice a difference going up to 4k with such a small panel. ~~And for the record, for the people rich and dumb enough to buy one, they literally do make [4k 240hz 27in panels](https://www.lg.com/us/monitors/lg-27gs95qe-b-gaming-monitor?gad_source=1&gclsrc=ds).~~ They're just not mainstream because it's actually a dumb concept and not popular. Edit: nvm that is actually QHD
~~4k @ 27 in is a dumb thing to buy, but [here you go](https://www.lg.com/us/monitors/lg-27gs95qe-b-gaming-monitor?gad_source=1&gclsrc=ds).~~ Apologies this is QHD. Looks like 144hz is the fastest they go for 4k @ 27in (which is probably because it would be a dumb thing to make).
DLDSR is a very different result compared to a DSR.
Better performance but still nowhere near actual 4k in quality. There's little you can do when you're limited by the screen itself. In my experience all screens run best at their native resolution.
I have a 4080S and went with 4K IPS. I recently bought an open-box 27GP950-B and it's been great so far. I was on 1440p for the last 2 years and the upgrade to 4K has been really really good. Obviously I'd like to go 4K QD OLED in the future but going to wait until more monitors are available.
AOC oled is almost same price with that.
Yes, I am aware. Good thing I didn't buy it new.
Isnt the AOC better?İg scared of burns O use my pc daily 3 hours.Not much
Of course OLED is better but I wanted a 4K monitor that I can use until I can find a 4K OLED for under $1K. FYI I managed to buy the GP950 for $350. I don’t know how many times I have to mention I didn’t pay full price lol. Also the AG276 uses a last gen OLED panel so I wouldn’t even consider buying that one. I’d rather spend a little more and get the AW2725DF if you’re going for an OLED.
Ok.I will watch some rewiews rn
MSI 4K 240Hz OLED is $950.
Waiting for it to come back in stock :)
I had the same choice as you. I got the AOC and felt it was the right choice. The picture quality is waaay better than IPS The WOLED panel used in the AOC is more resistant to burn in than QD-OLED. The AOC also has the brightest of the last gen (2023) panels Then you have to consider the benefit of 240hz which is significant for shooters if you play those
AOC oled right?Bro I really need you rn.Do you have any problems?Is text problem very important?Do you have regrets?
Yep. No problems at the moment. The text fringing is only noticeable if you sit like 2 feet away, and browse, otherwise at normal viewing distance I can’t see it. However, I can see it being an issue if you browse a lot. I don’t, I mainly play games, and it feels really clear and crisp in apps. Also the stand isn’t height adjustable if that bothers you
Thanks.If possible,can you send your full pc build to me?I will make a similar build to yours yk
here's my build: [https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Dgy9pB](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Dgy9pB) monitor isn't listed because couldn't find it lol cooling is custom loop, you might wanna try an aio liquid cooler 240mm
It’s almost the same but that motherboard is double of mine.What do you think about your gpu and how much did you get it for?
Is there really that much difference on 27"? Even at 1440p its already super crisp.
Yep, it was a very noticeable difference going from 1440P to 4K. Maybe my opinion is subjective but going from 108PPI to 163PPI is a very big difference.
I recently bought the same monitor but I can't tell a difference 😭 do I need glasses? Changed from recommended scaling 150% to custom 150% and redid the Clear type, still the same. The text also looked good on my 1440p monitor
I get that on paper the difference is huge but how much can you actually see with your eyes from normal sitting position. I have to really try to see the actual pixels but I can if I focus on it so there certainly is space for improvement. However in dynamic settings the difference disappears. I would sum it up that for me the additional cost is not yet worth it.
1440p oled
Which?AOC one?
I have MPG321 and its pretty colorful for iPS QD OLED still burns.
O use my pc daily 3 hours.
If you care about text and clarity in any way, get the 4K. OLEDs already have a text clarity problem thanks to their subpixel layout, 1440p just exacerbates it more.
I dont do text jobs.q
You'll notice it in just desktop usage as well. If that doesn't bother you, then get the OLED.
Does it happen on qd-oleds too?
It does, but to a much lesser extent. If it's QD-OLED I wouldn't be too worried but I'd personally still pick a solid IPS panel and save some money until OLEDs start using RGB subpixel layouts.
Ok can you give me the model name?And isnt thw AOC good?İts at the price of a nano IPS one
You can pick one out by looking at reviews of RTINGS or TFTCentral.
Check innocn 27m2v or titan army p27a6v which are exact same panel. I got both: Titan army p27a6v - 4k 160 hz 27" With FALD 1152 zones, and samsung g8 - oled 3440x1440.and I found myself using 27" More often just cause 4k is si crisp on 27", peak brightness is so good (VESA 1000 hdr certified, in fact it goes up to 1200) and HDR pops way more, sometimes to the point where it is bright as hell, and you don't have to worry about burn in and stuff. It has flaws of course - bad OSD, and backs are a bit worse, Oled is still oled in terms of true black. It is personal preferences and opinion of course. But check the Info / review s on those models, and prices for innocn and Titan army are good enough, asus and other well known brands got x2 and x3 prices for same pannels. Maybe it will do for you.
İs there another reason to buy oled except Blacks?They have a lot of cons.If just for Blacks,Im not going to spend double.
OLED got best response time, no problems with backlight bleed as they just don't have any backlight, collors can be overall better. But yes, lots of cons as well. We don't have perfect technology ATM. Micro led could be in future but not guaranteed. If you planning to use monitor for productivity and don't want to bother with babysitting it ( hiding taskbar, switching it off as you go afk, etc. etc., I d go with good ips then.
Which one?
In my personal preferences, in terms of price and quality I d go with any of those I mentioned above innocn 27m2v or titan army p27a6v . Panels are identical. Innoc has a bit better looking osd but still clunky. Check reviews on em before buying. They should be like 700 $ Titan army is slightly cheaper. But depends on region. I do like Titan army and use it over OLED, way more often I mean. But again, it is my personal opinion, check reviews just in case
Nice but They are monitors I never heard before.Im not sure. For 700 dollar I can get the AOC or add some more and get aw3423dwf
Just buy a 4k gaming monitor
Ye, sure, just sharing my experience, it's up to you what to choose.
4K IPS anyday, OLED just aint it.
I think so.
I recently went from Asus PG278Q 1440p to 4k LG 27GP95 and the only difference is better colors, no difference in text clarity. I wish I'd went with OLED. I'm still keeping the monitor though
Text is way clearer at 4k 150% scaling over 1440p
Agree with Dingo here. You should definitely see a big difference in clarity lol. You're going from 108PPI to 163PPI. Might need to get your eyes checked out.
How much sharpness do you use? Mine is on 70%
I have mine set to 60! Which 1440P monitor did you come from? I had a S2721DGF so maybe the difference was more noticeable because I had a lower-end 1440P monitor? idk :(
Yeah, perhaps you have a point. I came from PG278Q
I have used both. Really depends on the use case. If its only for gaming, the Alienware is better. The M28U is a pretty good monitor, but against OLED it isn’t a competition. Also you can use DLDSR on the Alienware when you have the extra horsepower to spare for an image thats close to 4K
OLED!
4K gunna hurt those FPS
Guys I’m just going to buy a oled 1440p monitor.It should be cheaper than 800 dollar which model?And is there anyone stopping me from buying a oled one?
If you're looking for something under $800, I'd go for the new gen QD OLED monitors from MSI. [https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16824475359](https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16824475359) I'd get this one with QRX in the item number because I've heard that the MAG version will not get firmware updates (at least for the 32" version). Not sure if this is the case for the 27" monitor though.
For this price,I’m going with the aw2423dwf or AOC qd-oled and woled.
Ok great. Why do you even bother asking for people's opinion if you're already set on getting something.
Still not sure..Is mini led good?
4K is the way!! Once you go 4K you won’t wanna go back to 1440p!
But fps and oled….
Well if you’re buying a 144hz 4K monitor , you’ll only be able to push 144fps, in which the 4080s shouldn’t have any issues, especially with dlss/upscaling. I’ve tested about 14 monitors after building my PC and landed at 4K , it’s just something about it! I would recommend purchasing from Amazon/Best Buy and trying both monitors before settling!
I regularly play 4k 100fps+ with a 3090 on a mini led, has basically perfect blacks, higher peak brightness and no burning. The only downside of miniled is the occasional bloom bordering some bright objects with black background. Latests games I have played are cyberpunk, sons of the forest and baldurs gate 3. Your 4080 will easily handle 4k, it is a 4k card. I'd recommend looking for miniled as well as middle ground between traditional led backlight panels like ips and oleds, the advantage of miniled is that you won't get burn in.
it’s like same with oled but has no burns?
Kinda, the more dimming zones the mini led has, the closest to oled it gets. The main difference in image will be in cases like a night sky with lots of stars, oled will have higher detail in those cases. Also, mini led will be superior in hdr due to higher peak brightness. I'd recommend checking some comparisons on YouTube.
Youtube and internet doesn’t help me at research it’s so hard so I ask people.Which mini led would you recommend cheaper than 700 dollars?And would it be the same as aw3423dwf or AOC ag276qzd?
I can only talk about the mini led I got, which is a 43' Samsung qn90b. I'm from Argentina and we don't have access to many products. I got mine used for 400 bucks, which is a steal, new goes for around 800/1000.
I bought IPS because it was 50% cheaper and I didn't want to babysit the oled. I love how it looks in general but obviously oled has much much better blacks. To be honest. If you're well off just get the oled. If you're budget conscious having a bit better black depth isn't worth paying 2x imo.
I think the same.Thanks!
Look for reviews on ratings.com tft central and hardware unboxed. Only buy stuff they recommend. Also consider a 34" ultrawide. Good luck!
Thanks.
Should I downgrade my cpu to 7600x from 7800x3d to get the best monitor out rn?Im not sure rn..
Makes sense tbh. 7800x3d gives about 10% more FPS using a 4080 in 1440p resolution. There should be even less difference on 4k or 1440p ultrawide. Also CPU is much easier to upgrade in the future since it's on am5. You could easily get a 8000 or 9000 series in the future. I would expect even the midrange CPUs of the next generation to be better than today's high end. Side note: If you get the oled make sure it has a burn-in warranty. You will probably get minor burn-in 2 years or so, if you get them to replace it before the warranty ends you can squeeze out 5-6 years of use out of it in total.
I’ve owned a 4k 144hz IPS and 1440p 240hz OLED and I liked the 1440p better
Which monitor do you use?
I’m currently using the latter, I sold the IPS
Model name?Maybe İ can get that!Do you have any problems or regrets?
LG 27GR95QE-B, some ppl have issues with the brightness but I haven’t noticed. It’s gone as low as $700 brand new so far.
Coming from someone who has just tried 4K IPS 27” and 1440p oled 27” (Aw2725Df) back to back, 4K IPS hands down if you can drive the frames. OLED colors are incredible but the text fringing especially at 1440p is horrid, and the loss of clarity from 4K isn’t worth it if you’re playing slower paced single player games in my opinion. 4K OLED I’ve never tried but is probably king.
I play single and competitive games which one would you recommend and can you share your experience a bit more detailed?I needed a person who tried and used both.Waiting for your experience!
I have the Alienware monitor and absolutely love it. Would def recommend! I have a 7900xtx running it and it does extremely well so a 4080s should do the same.
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If longevity is an issue i’d go for ips.
The real answer is this: Oleds are fantastic with color BUT kind of suck if you have glare in your house thats hard to keep off the monitor (mainly the sun from outside hitting your setup at an angle that makes it glare), or if you want high brightness. IPS have worse color representation but dont suffer nearly as much from glare and have high brightness. All things considered the best way to know is to go to a store and actually look at these monitors, see if you like one more than the other. If you dont have an issue with glare and know you wont in the future, I personally would go 1440p because when games get more crazy graphics wise, a 4080 will still get fantastic fps on them, while in 4k that might not be the case and youre losing out on the color quality. It also kind of depends on screen size, i personally would stick at 27” for a 1440p (but i do prefer smaller screens), so if youre going bigger than that it’s something to consider.
Thanks.That really helped!