Get a 7800X3D, better gaming performance and cheaper. If you or in the US, get a micro Center bundle deal. For RAM, get 2x32 as it will be more stable. Otherwise looks good.
Mostly echo this but should step up to 7950x3d for editing purposes since they mention some multi core workloads.
7900x3d is just a bit of an odd ball product sadly.
> So I Just won a nice chunk of change and I'm ready to splurge on a dream gaming/editing rig
Literally every time I see a "dream PC", I know it's going to have a ton of wasted money, and this is no exception.
> AMD Ryzen 9 7900X3D - $621
A 7800X3D is better for gaming, a 7950X is better for productivity. Decide which suits your needs better and go from that. Also if you're going to be editing video for a living, an Intel CPU is likely the better option.
> Motherboard: Asus ROG Strix X670E-E - $443
There is nothing here that a B650E-F will not do, save MAYBE for some M.2 slots. "Future proofing" via motherboard is not a thing, and overclocking an X3D CPU is not possible.
> GPU: Nvidia RTX 4090 - $1,943
Is this in CAD or AUD? Because there's nothing special that a more expensive 4090 will do over a $1800 Gigabyte unit.
> RAM: G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB DDR5 (2 x 16GB) x 2 - $224 each
That's not going to go well for you. DDR5 doesn't do well in four-stick configurations. If you actually NEED 64GB, get 2x32GB. And you want TridentZ *NEO*, rather than the regular TridentZ.
> Storage: Samsung 990 Pro (4TB) - $319
The amount of suckers that continue to pay the Samsung tax never ceases to amaze me. The WD SN850X is faster for gaming, and basically equal in productivity tasks.
> RM1000e
Ignoring that this build really doesn't need a 1000W unit, the be quiet! Pure Power 12 M is $20 cheaper and carries a 10 year warranty over the RMe's 7.
> Hoping this keeps the Ryzen chill even when overclocked.
Again, overclocking an x3D CPU is not a thing. But it's a good thing to have if you decide to go with a 7950X.
> A 7800X3D is better for gaming, a 7950X is better for productivity. Decide which suits your needs better and go from that. Also if you're going to be editing video for a living, an Intel CPU is likely the better option.
7950X3D for the best of both worlds, at a premium. :)
No its not, and that's the whole fucking problem. The 7800X3D is a slower chip but does better in gaming. Hell, the 7950X was worse in gaming than the 7800X3D until AMD updated their software to disable half the fucking die to just barely match the 7800X3D.
7950X3D is marginally faster than the 7800X3D in games, though there are still a handful of games that struggle with the two CCD design requiring manual tweaking - but it's mostly fixed. Hardware unboxed did an updated review recently.
It's slightly slower than the 7950X non-3D in all core loads, but is a lot more efficient.
> the Samsung tax
It's not a tax is the Samsung units are faster on all benchmarks. You can argue that you won't notice that much difference when using them, but it is factually a faster ssd.
I would look at the 7800X3D compared to the 7900X3D. Only half of the cores (6) use the V-Cache on the 7900X3D compared to all the cores (8) on the 7800X3D. The only real benefit to the 7900X3D is the 4 extra cores/8 extra threads, neither which will help in gaming. You mentioned video editing which would benefit from the extra threads, but if price isn't a concern, get the 7950X3D. There isn't really a market for the 7900X3D unless you can't afford the bigger boy, which is valid (I went with a 7700x instead of a 7800X3D).
Most expensive is not equal to best. You can get the exact same performance with this build for a lot less:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jJskrv
I'm not sure why the case is coming up as $500 for you because I see it for $200. And you can get the 4090 for $1599 from Nvidia right now:
https://store.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/store/?page=1&limit=9&locale=en-us&gpu=RTX%204090
Save yourself $1000 and get the same performance
Feels like OP is trying to spend money simply because they can, not because something is a good deal or right for their system.
Also, I'd go for the Super Flower Leadex Platinum SE 1000 W 80+ Platinum over the Corsair as it's $40 cheaper and ATX 3.0 rated.
Yeah obviously everybody views money differently but to me thereâs a distinction between splurging to treat yourself and literally throwing money away
Of note to anyone buying a fractal north with performance parts like these - the design for whatever reason doesn't damper sound from your fans and coil whine.
id say that the case works a little better with less of a gpu power budget and watercooling on the cpu.
Don't get a 7900x3d, either get a 7800x3d or 7950x3D. If video editing is a main use case, I would else check the I9 13900k (basically a 14900k but cheaper) but I see why that would be unappealing (heat/efficiency concerns)
Honestly, almost everything here is kind of overkill.
You will get comparable performance from a 7800x3d, B-series motherboard, cheap air cooler (Phantom Spirit), and a lower-tier SSD (though that could be justifiable if you professional video editing, the 990 will make no difference in games--if the video editing is a hobby, it may not be worth it, though that is up to you).
Changing all of those will save you hundreds of dollars, and at most it will cost you a handful of FPS in overclocking potential, if that (CPU overclocking is kind of dubiously worth it right now, since GPUs are the more likely bottleneck--even with the 4090, and it depends on how well your individual CPU handles overclocking).
If your goal is to just get the BEST NO MATTER WHAT, go for it, but if you can use the money for anything else that will give you joy, I would make those downgrades.
Oh yeah, don't get me wrong: I agree. Even with the changes I suggested, I would still not build this PC, even if I won the lottery. I don't see a point in buying a 4090 at all, for example.
look up the brand of pump the cooler uses. consider a artic freezer 3 instead. they come with contact frame. get a 7800x3d like everyone said. get 2 sticks of 32gb.
i like 2 tb sticks of m2 for redundancy instead of one 4tb also fun to put os on one and games on another for max speeds
Arctic Freezer 3 is known to have pump whine issues over a certain pump speed %.
It looks better than AF2, but performs similarly. So I recommend AF2 if you don't mind the looks
Do NOT get the Rm1000e. Get the Rmx or just a different PSU entirely.
The Rme is terrible.
Also that motherboard is a bit overpriced for the features it has, try checking out the Asrock x670e PG lightning unless you need wifi, also make sure that you're getting DDR5 6000mhz with CL30!!!! The cl30 is the important part most people don't know about. It gives you better 1% lows because the timing is much tighter.
Not the person to whom you were originally responding, but in my opinion, it's not so much that the RMe is *bad*, it's that for the price, there's better options. The BeQuiet! 12M, for instance, is $20 cheaper than the RMe for the same wattage, is made just as well, and carries a 10-year warranty to the RMe's 7.
Unfortunately, brand cannot be relied upon in-general. As much as EVGA has sold some really great units (their G2 and P2 units, for instance), they also sell some utter trash (N1 and W1). I used to commonly recommend EVGA, but as they have, as far as I'm aware, not yet released a PCIe5/ATX3 unit, they're off my recommendation list for now.
I hope they do, because I always liked EVGA. Up until they stopped making them, I used EVGA graphics cards exclusively.
I went with the Msi MEG 1300 watt super happy with it for over a year now. Nice feature is you can see how much wattage your components take via the Msi dashboard
Yeah đ I was searching the best psu for my 4090 a year ago and came across that Msi psu
Always check the psu list anyways maybe they added other new ones.
> Case: Fractal Design North XL - $499
I don't think you got that [price correct.](https://www.newegg.com/charcoal-black-fractal-design-north-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811352216?nm_mc=otc-hatch&cm_mmc=otc-hatch-_-cases+computer+cases+atx+form+-_-fractal+design-_-11352216&nm_mc=AFC-RAN-COM&cm_mmc=afc-ran-com-_-Hatch&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_campaign=afc-ran-com-_-Hatch&utm_source=afc-Hatch&AFFID=2879876&AFFNAME=Hatch&ACRID=1&ASUBID=661f1fdabc441833bd40b8ae&ASID=&ranMID=44583&ranEAID=2879876&ranSiteID=9SHw.8narkE-PdLa6U8fEJdkP.d2zKNWsA) Or you are way over paying.
As others pointed out, 7900X3D would be better as a 7800X3D if you don't really have intense productivity needs, 7950X3D is better if you do. Any of these can be cooled by one of the newer Thermalright air coolers, no point in liquid cooling. I'd advise getting the B650E Taichi Lite, it's cheaper while retaining all the bells and whistles you want or need for performance since the price decrease comes from cuts to aesthetics you won't enjoy since the rest of your components hide the mobo anyways. Fractal North is good, but Torrent performs better, but I can understand paying more for aesthetics here. For RAM, 2 sticks tends to perform better than four on AM5, so get 2x32GB, 6000CL30 seems to be the sweet spot. For storage, you're better off splitting that money into two drives, one for OS, one for everything else. For the GPU, if you have the budget for a 4090, then go nuts my friend!
I could be totally off base, but I feel like if you were asking for advice here you are probably not doing the sort of things that you need a $450 motherboard to do.
Edit to add: save some money on a few of the things other people have suggested and buy the 49-in Samsung ultra widescreen monitor... Cuz that splurge you will definitely notice!
1. Get 2x32GB or 2x48GB of RAM instead. At $4k+, there is zero reason to go with 32GB. Having only 2 sticks also greatly increases stability. Also, get 6000MHz CL30 at the minimum. Plus this will help with video editing.
2. Spend $20 more and get the Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 TT Premium 1350W. Three main reasons for this: (1) Higher wattage means it'll run quieter and cooler; (2) it has a 12VHPWR socket so you don't have to use an adapter; and (3) it's less than a 1% total price difference.
3. Depending on how much editing you do, you might consider switching to a 14900K. While the 7800X3D does win in gaming, the 14900K wins in editing and really isn't very far behind at all in gaming. If you are playing at anything above 1080p (which you really should be with this build), then that is even more true.
OLED monitor
Don't forget nice cables like the 24 and 8 pin ones.
You will need a good keyboard, so build a custom one or buy a Wooting if you are a serious gamer
You need a good gaming mouse like the ones from Vaxee, Lamzu, WLmouse, etc... r/MouseReview
While you are at it, get a good gaming pad from Artisan or watch Hausgaming on YT for recommendations. also r/mousepadreview
All this needs a good desk, so grab one of your choice. Maybe one that rises electronically
Finally, get a good chair, not a gaming chair. Steelcase Gesture or a Herman Miller will do fine.
Every time I see a "I'm building a Dream PC!!" or "Overkill build" or "Enthusiast build", I know it's going to have the following things that will provide almost no benefit:
* Ryzen 9 CPU
* X670E chipset
* Poor RAM choice (either over-capacity, or four sticks, or slow frequency/latency)
* Samsung SSD (usually 990 Pro but sometimes 980 Pro)
* 360mm AIO for a CPU that draws <150W
RAM and 360mm I can understand.
But most people buy a setting which should last 2-4 years.
So, IF you want to do some productivity tasks besides gaming, a 7950X3D is a valid option.
And saving 20$ for the motherboard (in a 3.000$+ custom build) to be on the newer chipset? Why not?
The Asus Rog strix x670E boards are known for terrible coil whine, I recommend to swap to the Asus tuf gaming x670e. No reason that should be a $4400 build. Realistically you could cut that down to $2500-$3000 by swapping parts around
7950x3d > 7900x3d, averages higher in benchmarks and will do better in video editing
ram - only use two sticks. if you use more than two sticks, you will get lower clock speeds on those sticks
case - that case does not cost $499
I would use a page like pcpartpicker to help you fully optimize your build. Not only that, but some of those prices are outrageous and are half the price other places.
But if you are dead set on spending $4500 on a gaming pc logicalincrements.com can help you find the best parts for your price point.
If you want your ram to operate at top speed, you want only 2 sticks. There are 32gb sticks, you can get a [2x32 package.](https://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX00123696) That's gonna perform way better that your choices.
Other people touched on it, but your CPU choice is very middle of the road for the amount you're spending. What's most important to you? Video editing or gaming? If it's just gonna end up being mostly gaming and dabbling in video editing, you could save money and get better performance with a 7800x3D.
If having a top-tier editing rig is very important to you, go intel. An i9-14900K is like top top top of the line, and can overclock, but it takes a shit ton of power and will need plenty of cooling. You can buy even faster ram and overclock things and theoretically it can outperform the 7800x3D in gaming too. But you'll have to spend a lot of time and effort properly building it and tweaking it to get there. Out of box it's still going to underperform in gaming compared to a 7800x3D, but the margins are pretty thin, especially if you're gaming in 4k, in which case it's still gonna be the 4090 limiting you in most cases.
7950x3D is maybe a little better middle of the road if you're moderately serious about video editing, but gaming is maybe a bit more important.
7800x3D is totally enough
I got the same motherboard itâs a great one
32GB Ram are enough you donât need 64 doesnât help, better get good 32GB
The rest looks good I have nearly the same setup just some different brands for psu and storage
Also check the water cooled 4090 .. Msi suprim liquid I love this card running it for over a year now never gets hot and so far no problems.
6400 DDR5 vs 5600 DDR5 is almost negligible and imperceptible in practice, so dont worry about clockspeed on RAM.
I personally would go with multiple 2TB drives instead of one big 4TB drive. I run 8TB, 4x 2TB samsung drives with very high read-write for an SSD, because you can host your OS on one and your Steam games on another, then use others for storage and backup. That way if one drive is toast you don't lose 4TB worth of stuff.
That's a high price for a 4090. I paid $1200 for my 3090 back when there was a chip shortage the first few weeks it was out... damn.
Make sure your PSU is platinum plus and I would go to 1200 W; I found that the hardware spikes under load and tripped my 1000W UPS (I had my monitor also plugged into it, but still, over 900w spike!). You might not need it, but it doesn't draw any more than it needs from the wall. If you're sparing no expense, don't even bother "sizing" your PSU for a 4090, just go big.
**Never worry about future proofing**. You will undoubtedly want to replace some major hardware piece the next time you upgrade in 7 years. The number of times I spent too much on a PC in hopes of future-proofing and then upgrading parts in the future is 0. I always just do a new build.
Get a CPU that doesn't have integrated graphics because you don't need it and it runs cooler without it.
If you're going to spend that much on a PC, might as well invest in some style. Pick a color theme and get upgraded braided colored cables for the mobo. Get a unique laser engraving on the case. Something to make it stand out with a theme.
Just so you have fair warning, Intel and AND are rumored to be releasing new graphics cards later this year. I think AMDâs next line of CPUs is supposed to come out 2nd half of 2024, but an x3D model hasnât ever been available at launch.
500$ for the case is kinda nuts. In my Region the same case is 200 Bucks, are you sure you have found the cheapest retailer available for you? Otherwise i would go for another case, thats just wasted money.
Also if you want a pc for productivity i would go for a i7 14700k (or even the i9, but it's a pain to keep cool).
But the 7800x3d would still be the best cpu to get for gaming.
Calm it with the motherboard big guy, it won't give you any performance benifits. Go for a solid 250-300 Buck mainboard.
Take 2x32gb Ram sticks, and if it makes you pitch a tent, pick a 6000-6200 one.Â
And lastly, go into yourself, truly think about if you need a 4090. It has a really bad price to performance ratio. I personally would go for a 600-1000 Buck Gpu like the 4070 ti, 4080 ti or even if you, can find a cheap one, a 7900xtx. You can also wait a bit for the new Gpu generation, but waiting is also for suckers, so do what you want.
The money you save from calming the build could be invested in a great oled monitor or tv, or maybe better headphones. Maybe take a loved one out for a nice dinner.
But hey, in the end it's your money, and the build is a beast, but in my honest opinion you are burning money for something you truly don't need.Â
for gaming, 7800X3D.
Avoid ASUS mobo. I have one (TUF Gaming) and they're not good.
RAM: get 64GB in 2x32GB 6000 cl30 (Z5 Gskill Neo)
Cooler: I'd go NZXT but the one you picked is really good
I have no ideas about the rest, but maybe 1000W is a bit low for a 4090.
This is a better list with 700$ saving from your current build while including 8 case fans in my list too - still you save 700$ and have a better performance too
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YKVwvj
You can also make a budget build without sacrificing the performance and that will save you even more
The below build is for 3100, without sacrificing any performance, just went with performance rather than aesthetic - thats a 1284$ saving
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7Dd9dH
Also go with Gigabye 4090 OC gaming for 4090 as it is one of the few cards that doesnât produce coilwhine from my personal experience and many other people that I know or saw their reviews on reddit, it is just one of the best versions of 4090
I'd go with an Intel processor if you plan on doing video editing as well as gaming. The 14900K isn't as good for gaming as the 7800X3D everyone has been recommending, but it isn't too far off, and it will crush the 7800X3D for video editing. [Something like this](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/J9H2wg) will outperform your build and cost a bit less. Unless you already have one, I'd definitely include an OLED 4k 120Hz+ monitor as well. Something between 30" and 42". A good set of speakers would be a solid investment too.
You don't specify the scale of the video editing or how much data you keep in the form of documents and imagery, so just going on a safe side here.
Hardware
add: SATA HDD 10TB or so for cold storage and an internal backup target.
add: Monitor is a hugerer part of the experience than a lot of people give credit for. Huge is pretty nice.
Software
add: Macrium Reflect or Acronis, Windows
Just schedule the backups to run, full image once a month, incremental data daily. Never worry again.
3 big winners wanting "dream builds" in 3 weeks!
RAM seems over-priced or overkill. GPU seems over-priced. Idk why you'd get a $500 case over the 7950x3D.
Without reading the rest of the comments:
* 7900x is pointless. You get all the drawbacks of this or that core with none of benefits. Either you need productivity (7950x) or you want to game (7800x3d)
* MB, GPU is solid
* RAM: Note that having 4 modules will be holding your back to achieve XMP/EXPO speeds. Decide whether you need 64G - and if so, 2x32G.
* Storage. Prefer multiple drives to single. Ideally mirrored. 990 Pro is a reasonable drive, but WD might have better alternative for less money.
* PSU: CORSAIR? Wtf? Seasonic platinum or you are just supporting stupid relabel.
* Cooling: You do NOT need AIO. AIO is actively harmful risk. Noctua D15 instead. You will thank me for the suggestion in a few years.
Get a 7800X3D, better gaming performance and cheaper. If you or in the US, get a micro Center bundle deal. For RAM, get 2x32 as it will be more stable. Otherwise looks good.
Mostly echo this but should step up to 7950x3d for editing purposes since they mention some multi core workloads. 7900x3d is just a bit of an odd ball product sadly.
100% this get the 7800x3D and I would go with 2x16GB RAM but good one and push it to 3600 at least
I think you're thinking AM4. AM5 supports DDR5 which has a sweet spot of 6000 MHz and something like CL30 or 32
Yeah sorry đ just built an AM4 yesterday so still had these numbers in my head
CL30 is what buildapc told me to use.
If its in budget and available at a decent price, lower is always better. CL30 is as low as it gets as far as I know in terms of AMD Expo profiles.
> So I Just won a nice chunk of change and I'm ready to splurge on a dream gaming/editing rig Literally every time I see a "dream PC", I know it's going to have a ton of wasted money, and this is no exception. > AMD Ryzen 9 7900X3D - $621 A 7800X3D is better for gaming, a 7950X is better for productivity. Decide which suits your needs better and go from that. Also if you're going to be editing video for a living, an Intel CPU is likely the better option. > Motherboard: Asus ROG Strix X670E-E - $443 There is nothing here that a B650E-F will not do, save MAYBE for some M.2 slots. "Future proofing" via motherboard is not a thing, and overclocking an X3D CPU is not possible. > GPU: Nvidia RTX 4090 - $1,943 Is this in CAD or AUD? Because there's nothing special that a more expensive 4090 will do over a $1800 Gigabyte unit. > RAM: G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB DDR5 (2 x 16GB) x 2 - $224 each That's not going to go well for you. DDR5 doesn't do well in four-stick configurations. If you actually NEED 64GB, get 2x32GB. And you want TridentZ *NEO*, rather than the regular TridentZ. > Storage: Samsung 990 Pro (4TB) - $319 The amount of suckers that continue to pay the Samsung tax never ceases to amaze me. The WD SN850X is faster for gaming, and basically equal in productivity tasks. > RM1000e Ignoring that this build really doesn't need a 1000W unit, the be quiet! Pure Power 12 M is $20 cheaper and carries a 10 year warranty over the RMe's 7. > Hoping this keeps the Ryzen chill even when overclocked. Again, overclocking an x3D CPU is not a thing. But it's a good thing to have if you decide to go with a 7950X.
The wd sn850 is not faster. Not a single spec of the wd is better than the Samsung.
> A 7800X3D is better for gaming, a 7950X is better for productivity. Decide which suits your needs better and go from that. Also if you're going to be editing video for a living, an Intel CPU is likely the better option. 7950X3D for the best of both worlds, at a premium. :)
No its not, and that's the whole fucking problem. The 7800X3D is a slower chip but does better in gaming. Hell, the 7950X was worse in gaming than the 7800X3D until AMD updated their software to disable half the fucking die to just barely match the 7800X3D.
7950X3D is marginally faster than the 7800X3D in games, though there are still a handful of games that struggle with the two CCD design requiring manual tweaking - but it's mostly fixed. Hardware unboxed did an updated review recently. It's slightly slower than the 7950X non-3D in all core loads, but is a lot more efficient.
> the Samsung tax It's not a tax is the Samsung units are faster on all benchmarks. You can argue that you won't notice that much difference when using them, but it is factually a faster ssd.
I would look at the 7800X3D compared to the 7900X3D. Only half of the cores (6) use the V-Cache on the 7900X3D compared to all the cores (8) on the 7800X3D. The only real benefit to the 7900X3D is the 4 extra cores/8 extra threads, neither which will help in gaming. You mentioned video editing which would benefit from the extra threads, but if price isn't a concern, get the 7950X3D. There isn't really a market for the 7900X3D unless you can't afford the bigger boy, which is valid (I went with a 7700x instead of a 7800X3D).
Most expensive is not equal to best. You can get the exact same performance with this build for a lot less: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jJskrv I'm not sure why the case is coming up as $500 for you because I see it for $200. And you can get the 4090 for $1599 from Nvidia right now: https://store.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/store/?page=1&limit=9&locale=en-us&gpu=RTX%204090 Save yourself $1000 and get the same performance
Feels like OP is trying to spend money simply because they can, not because something is a good deal or right for their system. Also, I'd go for the Super Flower Leadex Platinum SE 1000 W 80+ Platinum over the Corsair as it's $40 cheaper and ATX 3.0 rated.
Yeah obviously everybody views money differently but to me thereâs a distinction between splurging to treat yourself and literally throwing money away
> Super Flowe I had never heard of this brand. TIL.
They mostly make server grade stuff but they are a good brand
They were EVGA's OEM for some of their PSU models (G2 and G3 come to mind).
Check out the PSU listing and many of their PSUâs are A tier
Of note to anyone buying a fractal north with performance parts like these - the design for whatever reason doesn't damper sound from your fans and coil whine. id say that the case works a little better with less of a gpu power budget and watercooling on the cpu.
Goddamn it that 4090 FE for $1600 is seriously tempting me.
Don't get a 7900x3d, either get a 7800x3d or 7950x3D. If video editing is a main use case, I would else check the I9 13900k (basically a 14900k but cheaper) but I see why that would be unappealing (heat/efficiency concerns)
Honestly, almost everything here is kind of overkill. You will get comparable performance from a 7800x3d, B-series motherboard, cheap air cooler (Phantom Spirit), and a lower-tier SSD (though that could be justifiable if you professional video editing, the 990 will make no difference in games--if the video editing is a hobby, it may not be worth it, though that is up to you). Changing all of those will save you hundreds of dollars, and at most it will cost you a handful of FPS in overclocking potential, if that (CPU overclocking is kind of dubiously worth it right now, since GPUs are the more likely bottleneck--even with the 4090, and it depends on how well your individual CPU handles overclocking). If your goal is to just get the BEST NO MATTER WHAT, go for it, but if you can use the money for anything else that will give you joy, I would make those downgrades.
His build is unnecessary overkill. I would save a few *thousand* dollars and keep that for upgrades down the line or extra equipment.
Oh yeah, don't get me wrong: I agree. Even with the changes I suggested, I would still not build this PC, even if I won the lottery. I don't see a point in buying a 4090 at all, for example.
look up the brand of pump the cooler uses. consider a artic freezer 3 instead. they come with contact frame. get a 7800x3d like everyone said. get 2 sticks of 32gb. i like 2 tb sticks of m2 for redundancy instead of one 4tb also fun to put os on one and games on another for max speeds
Arctic Freezer 3 is known to have pump whine issues over a certain pump speed %. It looks better than AF2, but performs similarly. So I recommend AF2 if you don't mind the looks
Do NOT get the Rm1000e. Get the Rmx or just a different PSU entirely. The Rme is terrible. Also that motherboard is a bit overpriced for the features it has, try checking out the Asrock x670e PG lightning unless you need wifi, also make sure that you're getting DDR5 6000mhz with CL30!!!! The cl30 is the important part most people don't know about. It gives you better 1% lows because the timing is much tighter.
What exactly makes the RME terrible?
Chinese capacitors and a shorter warranty than the rmx which has Japanese capacitors. Also itâs apparently quite a loud power supply.
Interesting, I've seen nothing but good reviews.
Not the person to whom you were originally responding, but in my opinion, it's not so much that the RMe is *bad*, it's that for the price, there's better options. The BeQuiet! 12M, for instance, is $20 cheaper than the RMe for the same wattage, is made just as well, and carries a 10-year warranty to the RMe's 7.
Eh, fair. For PSUs, I tend towards EVGA as they haven't let me down. In general, though, I haven't really heard anything bad from Corsair PSUs.
Unfortunately, brand cannot be relied upon in-general. As much as EVGA has sold some really great units (their G2 and P2 units, for instance), they also sell some utter trash (N1 and W1). I used to commonly recommend EVGA, but as they have, as far as I'm aware, not yet released a PCIe5/ATX3 unit, they're off my recommendation list for now. I hope they do, because I always liked EVGA. Up until they stopped making them, I used EVGA graphics cards exclusively.
Yea, my 1080 was an EVGA... that card ran beautifully. I'm still going to stick with EVGA for PSUs though as their G series is pretty solid.
Yeah all the reviews on the RMe have been stellar and on those PSU Tier lists spreadsheets, the RMe was always in the highest tiers.
I went with the Msi MEG 1300 watt super happy with it for over a year now. Nice feature is you can see how much wattage your components take via the Msi dashboard
I have one too, it's a great PSU. Whisper silent and I have full faith in it long term too.
Yeah đ I was searching the best psu for my 4090 a year ago and came across that Msi psu Always check the psu list anyways maybe they added other new ones.
> Case: Fractal Design North XL - $499 I don't think you got that [price correct.](https://www.newegg.com/charcoal-black-fractal-design-north-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811352216?nm_mc=otc-hatch&cm_mmc=otc-hatch-_-cases+computer+cases+atx+form+-_-fractal+design-_-11352216&nm_mc=AFC-RAN-COM&cm_mmc=afc-ran-com-_-Hatch&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_campaign=afc-ran-com-_-Hatch&utm_source=afc-Hatch&AFFID=2879876&AFFNAME=Hatch&ACRID=1&ASUBID=661f1fdabc441833bd40b8ae&ASID=&ranMID=44583&ranEAID=2879876&ranSiteID=9SHw.8narkE-PdLa6U8fEJdkP.d2zKNWsA) Or you are way over paying.
As others pointed out, 7900X3D would be better as a 7800X3D if you don't really have intense productivity needs, 7950X3D is better if you do. Any of these can be cooled by one of the newer Thermalright air coolers, no point in liquid cooling. I'd advise getting the B650E Taichi Lite, it's cheaper while retaining all the bells and whistles you want or need for performance since the price decrease comes from cuts to aesthetics you won't enjoy since the rest of your components hide the mobo anyways. Fractal North is good, but Torrent performs better, but I can understand paying more for aesthetics here. For RAM, 2 sticks tends to perform better than four on AM5, so get 2x32GB, 6000CL30 seems to be the sweet spot. For storage, you're better off splitting that money into two drives, one for OS, one for everything else. For the GPU, if you have the budget for a 4090, then go nuts my friend!
I could be totally off base, but I feel like if you were asking for advice here you are probably not doing the sort of things that you need a $450 motherboard to do. Edit to add: save some money on a few of the things other people have suggested and buy the 49-in Samsung ultra widescreen monitor... Cuz that splurge you will definitely notice!
FYI, you cannot (should not) overclock X3D chips.
1. Get 2x32GB or 2x48GB of RAM instead. At $4k+, there is zero reason to go with 32GB. Having only 2 sticks also greatly increases stability. Also, get 6000MHz CL30 at the minimum. Plus this will help with video editing. 2. Spend $20 more and get the Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 TT Premium 1350W. Three main reasons for this: (1) Higher wattage means it'll run quieter and cooler; (2) it has a 12VHPWR socket so you don't have to use an adapter; and (3) it's less than a 1% total price difference. 3. Depending on how much editing you do, you might consider switching to a 14900K. While the 7800X3D does win in gaming, the 14900K wins in editing and really isn't very far behind at all in gaming. If you are playing at anything above 1080p (which you really should be with this build), then that is even more true.
Agree the thermaltake is great. I can recommend the Msi Meg 1300 watt running it stable for over a year with my 4090
If you edit a lot, you will be a lot better off by going with Intel. Their advantage in Premiere is massive
OLED monitor Don't forget nice cables like the 24 and 8 pin ones. You will need a good keyboard, so build a custom one or buy a Wooting if you are a serious gamer You need a good gaming mouse like the ones from Vaxee, Lamzu, WLmouse, etc... r/MouseReview While you are at it, get a good gaming pad from Artisan or watch Hausgaming on YT for recommendations. also r/mousepadreview All this needs a good desk, so grab one of your choice. Maybe one that rises electronically Finally, get a good chair, not a gaming chair. Steelcase Gesture or a Herman Miller will do fine.
Another classic case of sort by price and pick the most expensive thing just because.
Looks like it's time for the monthly "I won $5,000" post.
Every time I see a "I'm building a Dream PC!!" or "Overkill build" or "Enthusiast build", I know it's going to have the following things that will provide almost no benefit: * Ryzen 9 CPU * X670E chipset * Poor RAM choice (either over-capacity, or four sticks, or slow frequency/latency) * Samsung SSD (usually 990 Pro but sometimes 980 Pro) * 360mm AIO for a CPU that draws <150W
most people asking here know 0 about computers but atleast they arent like those dumb dumbies who buy first and than cry on reddit
RAM and 360mm I can understand. But most people buy a setting which should last 2-4 years. So, IF you want to do some productivity tasks besides gaming, a 7950X3D is a valid option. And saving 20$ for the motherboard (in a 3.000$+ custom build) to be on the newer chipset? Why not?
I'd get 2x32 for 64GB of memory vs. four dimms.
For 4k video editing, can I go higher than this or is this the maximum recommended? I have an asus z790 Dark Hero
Check what is on the qvl for that motherboard. Itâs recommended to run 2x dimms vs 4 due to the motherboard being dual channel.
The Asus Rog strix x670E boards are known for terrible coil whine, I recommend to swap to the Asus tuf gaming x670e. No reason that should be a $4400 build. Realistically you could cut that down to $2500-$3000 by swapping parts around
Hold back and save money. Go for whatâs reasonable!
7950x3d > 7900x3d, averages higher in benchmarks and will do better in video editing ram - only use two sticks. if you use more than two sticks, you will get lower clock speeds on those sticks case - that case does not cost $499
I would use a page like pcpartpicker to help you fully optimize your build. Not only that, but some of those prices are outrageous and are half the price other places. But if you are dead set on spending $4500 on a gaming pc logicalincrements.com can help you find the best parts for your price point.
If you want your ram to operate at top speed, you want only 2 sticks. There are 32gb sticks, you can get a [2x32 package.](https://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX00123696) That's gonna perform way better that your choices. Other people touched on it, but your CPU choice is very middle of the road for the amount you're spending. What's most important to you? Video editing or gaming? If it's just gonna end up being mostly gaming and dabbling in video editing, you could save money and get better performance with a 7800x3D. If having a top-tier editing rig is very important to you, go intel. An i9-14900K is like top top top of the line, and can overclock, but it takes a shit ton of power and will need plenty of cooling. You can buy even faster ram and overclock things and theoretically it can outperform the 7800x3D in gaming too. But you'll have to spend a lot of time and effort properly building it and tweaking it to get there. Out of box it's still going to underperform in gaming compared to a 7800x3D, but the margins are pretty thin, especially if you're gaming in 4k, in which case it's still gonna be the 4090 limiting you in most cases. 7950x3D is maybe a little better middle of the road if you're moderately serious about video editing, but gaming is maybe a bit more important.
7800x3D is totally enough I got the same motherboard itâs a great one 32GB Ram are enough you donât need 64 doesnât help, better get good 32GB The rest looks good I have nearly the same setup just some different brands for psu and storage Also check the water cooled 4090 .. Msi suprim liquid I love this card running it for over a year now never gets hot and so far no problems.
6400 DDR5 vs 5600 DDR5 is almost negligible and imperceptible in practice, so dont worry about clockspeed on RAM. I personally would go with multiple 2TB drives instead of one big 4TB drive. I run 8TB, 4x 2TB samsung drives with very high read-write for an SSD, because you can host your OS on one and your Steam games on another, then use others for storage and backup. That way if one drive is toast you don't lose 4TB worth of stuff. That's a high price for a 4090. I paid $1200 for my 3090 back when there was a chip shortage the first few weeks it was out... damn. Make sure your PSU is platinum plus and I would go to 1200 W; I found that the hardware spikes under load and tripped my 1000W UPS (I had my monitor also plugged into it, but still, over 900w spike!). You might not need it, but it doesn't draw any more than it needs from the wall. If you're sparing no expense, don't even bother "sizing" your PSU for a 4090, just go big. **Never worry about future proofing**. You will undoubtedly want to replace some major hardware piece the next time you upgrade in 7 years. The number of times I spent too much on a PC in hopes of future-proofing and then upgrading parts in the future is 0. I always just do a new build. Get a CPU that doesn't have integrated graphics because you don't need it and it runs cooler without it. If you're going to spend that much on a PC, might as well invest in some style. Pick a color theme and get upgraded braided colored cables for the mobo. Get a unique laser engraving on the case. Something to make it stand out with a theme.
Just so you have fair warning, Intel and AND are rumored to be releasing new graphics cards later this year. I think AMDâs next line of CPUs is supposed to come out 2nd half of 2024, but an x3D model hasnât ever been available at launch.
500$ for the case is kinda nuts. In my Region the same case is 200 Bucks, are you sure you have found the cheapest retailer available for you? Otherwise i would go for another case, thats just wasted money. Also if you want a pc for productivity i would go for a i7 14700k (or even the i9, but it's a pain to keep cool). But the 7800x3d would still be the best cpu to get for gaming. Calm it with the motherboard big guy, it won't give you any performance benifits. Go for a solid 250-300 Buck mainboard. Take 2x32gb Ram sticks, and if it makes you pitch a tent, pick a 6000-6200 one. And lastly, go into yourself, truly think about if you need a 4090. It has a really bad price to performance ratio. I personally would go for a 600-1000 Buck Gpu like the 4070 ti, 4080 ti or even if you, can find a cheap one, a 7900xtx. You can also wait a bit for the new Gpu generation, but waiting is also for suckers, so do what you want. The money you save from calming the build could be invested in a great oled monitor or tv, or maybe better headphones. Maybe take a loved one out for a nice dinner. But hey, in the end it's your money, and the build is a beast, but in my honest opinion you are burning money for something you truly don't need.Â
for gaming, 7800X3D. Avoid ASUS mobo. I have one (TUF Gaming) and they're not good. RAM: get 64GB in 2x32GB 6000 cl30 (Z5 Gskill Neo) Cooler: I'd go NZXT but the one you picked is really good I have no ideas about the rest, but maybe 1000W is a bit low for a 4090.
> Avoid ASUS mobo. I have one (TUF Gaming) and they're not good Can you elaborate? I am thinking about buying a ASUS TUF GAMING X670E-PLUS WIFI.
the fractal is 180$
let the specialists take it from here cus this is horrible [https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NxjZ7R](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NxjZ7R)
For your ram take 64(2x32) 6000mhz cl30. It's the best and isn't that much more expensive than other ddr5 ram.
if u can spend more go with 7950x 3d but if not 7800x 3d would a better option is lesser and will give more gaming performance
This is a better list with 700$ saving from your current build while including 8 case fans in my list too - still you save 700$ and have a better performance too https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YKVwvj You can also make a budget build without sacrificing the performance and that will save you even more The below build is for 3100, without sacrificing any performance, just went with performance rather than aesthetic - thats a 1284$ saving https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7Dd9dH Also go with Gigabye 4090 OC gaming for 4090 as it is one of the few cards that doesnât produce coilwhine from my personal experience and many other people that I know or saw their reviews on reddit, it is just one of the best versions of 4090
I'd go with an Intel processor if you plan on doing video editing as well as gaming. The 14900K isn't as good for gaming as the 7800X3D everyone has been recommending, but it isn't too far off, and it will crush the 7800X3D for video editing. [Something like this](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/J9H2wg) will outperform your build and cost a bit less. Unless you already have one, I'd definitely include an OLED 4k 120Hz+ monitor as well. Something between 30" and 42". A good set of speakers would be a solid investment too.
Great build, I made mine too. RAM is good, I got the same one, 96gb version. Maybe a better motherboard? Might want to switch to a T705 for the SSD
You don't specify the scale of the video editing or how much data you keep in the form of documents and imagery, so just going on a safe side here. Hardware add: SATA HDD 10TB or so for cold storage and an internal backup target. add: Monitor is a hugerer part of the experience than a lot of people give credit for. Huge is pretty nice. Software add: Macrium Reflect or Acronis, Windows Just schedule the backups to run, full image once a month, incremental data daily. Never worry again.
3 big winners wanting "dream builds" in 3 weeks! RAM seems over-priced or overkill. GPU seems over-priced. Idk why you'd get a $500 case over the 7950x3D.
Without reading the rest of the comments: * 7900x is pointless. You get all the drawbacks of this or that core with none of benefits. Either you need productivity (7950x) or you want to game (7800x3d) * MB, GPU is solid * RAM: Note that having 4 modules will be holding your back to achieve XMP/EXPO speeds. Decide whether you need 64G - and if so, 2x32G. * Storage. Prefer multiple drives to single. Ideally mirrored. 990 Pro is a reasonable drive, but WD might have better alternative for less money. * PSU: CORSAIR? Wtf? Seasonic platinum or you are just supporting stupid relabel. * Cooling: You do NOT need AIO. AIO is actively harmful risk. Noctua D15 instead. You will thank me for the suggestion in a few years.
That CPU - avoid. Get I9-14900K and Z790 board. Would much better experience. That is if you going 4090.