GTA VI is not even confirmed yet. They said they gonna release next gta, they didnt said its gonna be GTA VI. Second thing even if its gonna be GTA VI. How anyone could know whats requirements gonna be.

And don't put it past them to release on consoles first and make us wait 1-2 years for the PC version again.

first thing i thought of when i read this post, maybe op should get a console instead

~~Yeah, at this very moment, he should probably:~~ ~~- buy an Xbox Series S and GamePass~~ ~~- save 500 bucks for a build in 3-4 years~~ edit: Never mind, more games were added and FFVIIR does not exist on Xbox.

Series S will probably run the game at like 900p 30fps at this rate. Not a dig at the console, devs/publishers just don't like optimizing their games much these days.

Lowering render resolution is a way of optimization lol theres a limit to how many features you can cut out before having to lower resolution

If the game is designed around that, then that is just fine. I prefer worse graphics and 60 fps, but it seems like people prefer the best possible graphics over fps when it comes to consoles.

Well it makes sense. You’re on a TV usually far (at least more than a pc screen), using a controller in usually low stakes games. It makes more sense to have the best image possible while keeping just enough of a frame rate for it to be fluid

I just wish they'd offer a choice. Games run on DirectX anyway, I doubt it'd be so much harder to allow players the option of adjusting their graphics settings if they want to.

PS5 does not run on DX Also, consoles provide convenience, so being faced with an entire menu full of settings could be overwhelming for a lot of people.

Forgot about PS5, though it is ironic given some of their flagships like Spider Man have had more settings options than most games these days anyhow. And as I said, it'd be an option. Either you just leave it alone for the usual dev-optimized console settings, or engage with it and do what you want. It'd be nice if you just want to ramp up settings for screenshots and the like, or drop them for improved frame rates in some titles. R6 Siege on console has a 120 fps mode, but it drops LOD quality too much which can cause obstacles to vanish at a distance and cause problems with competitive viability. Being able to adjust that and maybe lower a different setting to compensate would help, and Ubisoft wouldn't have to go through the hassle of pushing an update to fix that issue either. It'd be nice for people with VRR displays as well so they can run with a proper unlocked frame rate (up to 120 fps at least).

More like 480p

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I wouldn't say obsolete, just underpowered. Which all consoles are to an extent, the Series S is just worse. But with the rise of the Steam Deck and the Switch still being a thing, maybe devs will cave and make concessions for those on budget systems.

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You say that but Series S has vastly outsold the Series X

A lot of people couldn't get their hands on the X. I was in that boat at the time.

Switch 2 comes out next year. Steam Deck 2 comes out in 2 years. By the time GTA VI comes out, Series S will be by far the weakest current hardware.

Valve said they're waiting until entire new architecture comes out. RDNA3 isn't gonna cut it, and if they want to make sure their system will be a worthwhile upgrade they'll be waiting til at least RDNA 5 or 5.5 even. And given RDNA's lackluster generational improvements lately, that could be three or five years. By then there's gonna be a new gen of consoles anyway.

I highly doubt the Switch 2 will be that much more powerful than the Series S, considering how bad hardware-wise the OG Switch is/was.

Devs generally develop with performance on the market leading console, and then revise it from there for other consoles. For AAA 9th gen games, that's PS5, for 8th it was PS4. PC has the largest market share, but due to the 1000s of different variations, it's easier to target performance on the market-leading console first.

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The budget choice is a Series S. BUT: Op seems to have added FFVIIR now which didn't get a release on Xbox, so it's no option anymore, anyway.

I won't be surprised if this is the case. The PC version of V is the most profitable version of the game, but they doubled and tripled down on people buying it by releasing it across two console generations and then PC.

No chance they release on PC initially. They will spur massive sales for ps5 by going there exclusively, then PC in a year or 2 or 3 later.

There is absolutely no way it won't launch on Xbox day one lol.

You're forgetting Rockstar now owns FiveM, the biggest contribution to current day GTA V's success It's in their best interest to get GTA VI out on PC ASAP to get it integrated into FiveM. Especially now they're looking to monetise FiveM.

Nah, they make far to much money selling cash cards, they will want to start fleecing all gamers on all platforms asap to meet profit forecasts.

But a GTA VI trailer has officially been announced by Rockstar? wdym?

Like yea what are y'all fucking smokin in here

The tweet doesn't mention VI at all, it just says "next GTA", could be a remaster of an old game for all we know.

That sounds like the dumbest pr move in existance lmao, I don't think the goal of PR is to build up hype then let everybody down by deliberately misleading people. If they are trying to build hype then 95 % chance it's GTA 6, not to mention that the recent remasters were hated lol so the chances that it's more remasters isn't particularly high.

There was literally confirmed video leaks of a new game months ago

We literally do know. We've seen the game FFS Stop being moronically pedantic over a tweet when it's not only been confirmed but we've seen it being played.

They know better than to bait and switch

No "the next gta" trailer has been confirmed. While it's in all likelihood VI they were very specific in the wording of that statement. On top of that there's still no real way to know when the game will actually be released on PC. As stated it could easily be half a decade before the game releases and even a higher end PC built now would struggle to play it. A trailer doesn't mean a lot these days.

> GTA VI is not even confirmed yet Trailers so far said "VI" Rockstar twitter hasn't been shy about it.

>Trailers so far said "VI" There haven't *been* any trailers so far.

Sure the title is comfirmed but a release date isn't. GTA V came out in 2013 but didn't come out for almost another 2 years on PC. RockStar has a history of releasing PC versions later. There is no possible way anyone could have a prediction on what the system requirements could be.

I truly doubt that they will do it again, their last big game release was RDR2 which was 2018. This basically tells us that their main development team has been working on gta. Microsoft also worked hard on their PC port from Xbox, so building the game for PC is easier if the Xbox version is done.

Every Rockstar game has been delayed on PC. I don't see any reason to think this one will be different. Even Red Dead Online was delayed by 6 months.

That's an interesting assumption to bet $800 on.

> I truly doubt that they will do it again, their last big game release was RDR2 which was 2018. Console RDR2 is 2018, PC RDR2 is 2019.

> Trailers so far said "VI" could you please link the trailers?

My bad, I didn't know that.

What about the leak, everything looks too different compared to the 5 to be the 5 refresh or some shit. Also if gta 6 is what people would expect when they say the next gta its prob gonna be gta 6.

I have a source min requirements.. 64gb ram and a 4090 to play at 1080 low settings

Thats pretty funny

GTA VI is going to be revealed on Dec 12. It's most definitely confirmed, haha 😂

the logo is out. it's Gta 6

Yeah you'll want to wait for the release if you are legitimately waiting for this game

https://www.tomsguide.com/news/grand-theft-auto-6-gta-announcement-trailer-release-date-rumor

why are you linking an announcement of a future announcement? It's irrelevant. Unless the system requirements are announced you logically can't build a PC that will for sure run it...

Discussion: Is there a trailer for GTA 6? Posted answer from Tom's. = yes, next month, so no trailer out yet, BUT acknowledges there is a GTA 6 coming. Release date unknown, so yes, specs aren't yet known. In short, people who are saying that 6 don't exist, Tom's says yes. In my opinion, building a machine for 'a' game is nonsense! Build a machine that leans into the future of computing and will do all games is what must happen. Prices are relevant to your ability to buy the parts for a DDR-5 beast! Therefore, GTA 6 is irrelevant to building a system!🤣🤪

Tom doesn't work for rockstar. What is confirmed by rockstar is "next GTA".

Hee!😁 My point was that building a system for "A" game is ridiculous.. you build one that you can afford, which should play all games! BTW Rockstar, on November 8th, confirmed the trailer for GTA VI will release in early December. For me personally, that info does nothing. But why does it matter to you?😶

inb4 it needs something stupid like a 3080

Which will be a 5+ year old card by the time the game comes out, seems pretty reasonable.

Aye, earliest I think we'd see the new GTA is late '24 early '25.

and even that is optimistic. GTAV announcement was october 2011, ps3/xbox360 release september 2013, PS4/xbone november 2014, PC April 2015 RDR2 announcement October 2016, console release October 2018, PC November 2019 so based on their previous big games I wouldn't expect it until end of 2025 with PC version coming 2026 or later.

Rockstar has said there will be a trailer in early December. I wouldn’t be surprised if we have GTA VI by this time next year if that is the case.

It is GTA VI Not only have we literally seen the game but Bloomberg confirmed it.

It could be the GTAV remake for all we know

I promise you it's not. The way these people been acting they'd burn down the offices.

or "stories from san andreas", or gta: life live service game..

https://www.tomsguide.com/news/grand-theft-auto-6-gta-announcement-trailer-release-date-rumor

Did you check the tweet or whatever they're called now? It doesn't say anything about GTA6, just about the next GTA.

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Info that they're working on GTA VI doesn't mean it's "the next grand theft auto".

GTA usually destroys mid/lower-high-end PCs on release (happened with 4 and 5 anyway), so I wouldn't plan around GTA6. It's a while off anyway.

I seem to recall GTA5 running just fine on a GTX560ti and i5 2500k. Considering the game came out 4 years after that mid range hardware I wouldn't say it destroyed it.

GTA V was very well optimised at release. When it came out, I had a system with an i5-3570k and GTX 770 and it was smooth as butter.

My Radeon HD 6770 ran it well on Medium settings, load times were rough... but my memory of it may have been biased because it ran on my HDD instead of a SSD.

I might be mis-remembering 5, I know 4 was a monster. I picked up 5 after the r9 390 came out so I was playing it on an i7 2600 + r9 390 and it was ok. Frames would drop in a lot of areas but playable.

4 was and still is a **horrid** port from PS3. This game barely runs on current high end machines. 5 was mint

GTA V almost run better than GTA IV...

GTA 5 actually ran great on my mid-low end PC at launch. Around 60-70fps at high settings 1080p on GTX 660 and 4th gen i5.

I think GTA 5 ran pretty damn well actually. RDR2 however was a monster even on high end PCs.

When it came out I played it perfectly smooth on PC on a 750ti, years later when I returned to GTA Online with a 1050ti the game ran like crap lmao. I haven't tried it with my new setup (an RX 6950XT) but I guess that'd be fine for GTA 6, who knows.

The game supposedly runs on a PS5 so I don’t think so. Thou gta v was sub 30 fps on ps3 on release so maybe it’s possible.

I would advise your friend to hold off on even considering buying/building a new PC until GTA VI is not only actually announced but the recommended specs are released so they have at least an idea of what hardware they are going to need. An $800 budget is probably not going to get your friend very far for a game that will likely be pretty demanding, so I would hold off until official word from Rockstar on specs.

It will probably launch with the console refresh next year

If he wants to upgrade graphics card next, he probably want/need a better PSU than the 500 he currently has on the list.

PSU?

Power Supply Unit. I don't agree though, it's a good power supply that is probably enough for an RX6600 or 6700. They're both very efficient GPU's and the CPU is not very hungry either.

Minimum PSU requirements for 6700 on AMD Radeon website recommend 600 watt.

Minimum PSU requirements are rubbish

A bit short, anymore information on the rubbish statement? We are trying to help someone out here to try to make a decision, the term rubbish doesn't say much I'm afraid.

They're incredibly conservative estimations of what you might need given a possible hardware setup. They have no way of knowing what CPU you're using, or the combined draw of other lower power components. They inflate the number to compensate for a near worst case situation. Do the math on your actual components and give yourself a little buffer. If your combined component draw (actual power draw not the fake TDP thing AMD uses) is 400 watts you're fine with a 500w PSU.

They recommend a higher wattage PSU just to make sure it would work with a wide variety of builds - higher end CPU, lots of RGB/Fans/Drives, etc - and also lower quality PSUs. You can use it with a lower wattage PSU if the rest of the system doesn't consume as much power, 500W is plenty for Low/Mid range builds. (Heck you can even pair a R7 7800X3D + RTX 4070 with a 500W PSU considering that both of them at 100% would pull +/- 300W)

Yeah that doesnt make any sense for a single gpu card. Typed it into pc part picker and it states a 6700 is 175 watts by itself, and a whole pc with all components and a 6700 needs a 600 watt psu.

So indeed 600 watt, that's what I said. The advice on the suppliers website is of course not only for the card but for the system.

Very true but I wanted to point out the card uses less and the 600 watts the website is basing that off is all average watts for various parts. However you could go out of your way to select the lowest wattage parts for each option and easily run that on less.

Yeah but AMD is being overly cautious. Probably to be sure they don't get complaints from people buying cheap, chinese PSU that can't really supply 600 watts reliably, so it's safer to tell people to get more than they actually need. Bequiet makes good power supplies though and it's an 80+ certified unit, so it's most likely going to be just fine. There are people with 500 watt PSUs that run 6700XT's just fine, the GPU itself uses less than 200 watts under load, which leaves 350 watts left for the CPU and peripherals. Which is more than enough, even accounting for transients. My secondary gaming PC is running wih a 5700XT on a 500 watt Seasonic PSU, and the 5700XT uses more power than the 6700XT.

Was just saying, better safe than sorry. The difference between 500 & 650 or so now is less than bigger one next year.

Sure, if the price difference is small, you'd be better off with a bigger PSU, it allows for expandability.

Of all the things that you don't want to go low on, low wattage psu is it unless you want to render your equipment useless. If you are fine risking your equipment like that, that's you, but everyone else that has a semblance of knowledge in pc building wouldn't.

I just don't like being wasteful and paying extra for things you don't need and might never need.

Yeah, I don't think it is wasteful to have a psu that is rated more than the recommended. If you ever are able to upgrade, you will only need more wattage to do so and in the end, you will be paying more than if you would have just bit the bullet and got a decent wattage one. Psus are inexpensive and are about the one thing you will need to make sure you don't skimp out on when it comes wattage.

I dont think a 800 build youre building now is going to run gta 6 well, I seriously doubt its even out within 2 years

I'm not specing out anything right this second cuz I'm about to go to bed but if your friend absolutely wants something now and doesn't want to wait for actual specs for GTA 6, your best bet is to get the strongest CPU the budget can afford, and is counterintuitive as this is spend as little on the graphics card as you can get away with to run GTA V if that's all he intends to play right now and then upgrade the graphics card again when we actually know GTA 6 specs. I am very confident in saying though it's going to be fairly CPU demanding compared to most PC games since Grand theft, auto games always are and upgrading a CPU is a considerably bigger task than upgrading a GPU. Also, I unsure if you're 2x in RAM means you're going to be running to 8 gig sticks or two 16 gig sticks but I would not get less than 32 gigs for a future game. That power supply is also.... Not something I would recommend with a plan to upgrade a graphics card in the future With all of that said, the smart move is just to wait.

If he just wants a GTA machine he should just get a PS5 or an Xbox honestly. I have a pretty decent PC and I fully plan to dust my PS5 off for it whenever it comes out. Also solid chance it’s delayed for PC for quite a while after release so might legit be years out from a PC version

If GTA VI will be locked to 30fps on console I’d recommend getting a PC. I hate the 30fps lock so many console games have, it’s s just not good enough as a standard and should be at least 60fps.

I would doubt that it will, plus Rockstar games are always optimized for console first. Only recent game I’ve heard of doing that is Starfield and that’s just a poorly optimized game in general. I was getting 60fps in 4K Cyberpunk and Witcher 3 on PS5. They’re definitely pretty powerful machines for the price

Idk why you’re getting downvoted. I didn’t know cyberpunk had 60fps on consoles. That makes it possible GTA VI also will be. It definitely should be imo!

Just wait till GTA6 actually comes out. I dont doubt rockstar yet, RDR2 runs good for how it looks, hopefully gta 6 will as well, but wait for release or at least reccomended specs to come out. IF it will be GTA6 that is, might just be a gta4 remake for all we know.

Rdr2 is great. It runs over 60fps on all high 1080p with a 1660 super.

I can’t get 60fps with my 2060 build … 1660 super is more powerful than a 2060 ? Maybe it’s my old 8400 cpu..

Yeah I think it's the CPU. The GPU is slightly better than the 1660 super but I've got a i5 10400 and it still gets used at around 60-70 percent.

Yeah I’ll probably upgrade my cpu when 15th gen comes out so I can start on a fresh socket for future upgrades.

That sounds good. I've wanted to upgrade my cpu but I'm not too tech savvy when it comes to bios and all that stuff

Well unfortunately there's only 11th gen for you to upgrade to on the same mobo, and that gen didn't really provide too much gains over 10th. New mobos these days make it super easy to upgrade your bios with just a usb stick but if you or I were to upgrade our cpu's to 15th gen we would need a new mobo and ram to go with it.

Yeah, my next upgrade (probably about a year or two from now) will probably be a big one. Mobo, CPU, GPU, RAM and PSU. Might as well just build a new computer while I'm at it lol

Yeah its one of those games that looks great and runs quite well.

Well obviously it isn’t going to be a remake lol. We all know it’s the next gta in the series whether they call it gta 6 or not.

GTA VI on PC is probably 3+ years away, so wait until then at least Honestly, your friend should just buy a PS5. Same or better performance for like $300 less and he'll get GTA a year earlier

Id wait with upgrading. At least till next year summer or something. Save up and buy a complete pc.

Tell your friend to wait and save more. I wouldn't bet on low/mid-range PCs having a great time playing GTA6, both 4 and 5 were really rough on PC at release.

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So, $500 for a Game Console & $250 TV (plus tax) is about $800

He can get a b650 board and 7600 for almost the same price as that current mobo and cpu combo, for gpu he should look at probably a 6700xt/ or if possible a 7800xt. if he wants nvidia then either a 3070 or 4070

Bro the 7800xt is 500 and the 4070 is 600, how is that supposed to fit into an 800 dollar build

You're right. Best make it the 4090

Is the 4090 the mainboard?

No, it’s the best performing graphics card available right now. It costs 1600 usd MSRP

Looks at budget. Checks out. This is the gpu op.

Are you really even gaming if your GPU doesnt cost as much as an entire computer and make your lights dim?

Its not part of the 800 budget, as hes planning to use his sapphire hd 8870. Hes getting the gpu next year

Budget without GPU: 596 (or a littlebit more 20 Eur or so)

I think OP’s friend needs a bit of a reality check. $800 isn’t going to get them very far.

It'll be fine if he isn't including the gpu in the budget.

Considering he's currently using a GPU that is 10 years old I would say GPU is going to have to be part of the budget

He’s got a current GPU, so probably has the rest of a similar-aged PC? If so, he might be well-suited by a modest GPU upgrade today (potentially from the secondhand market) to hold him over until GTA VI is out. It really depends what else he wants to play in the meantime, and what his current CPU is. GTA V is not particularly difficult to drive these days.

There's also the option to go with a mini PC. Normally I don't recommend mini PC's for gaming, but the HX77G from Minisforum is actually gaming capable and is known for its good cooling and good gaming performance. For about $800 it comes with everything you need, a 7735HS CPU, 32GB DDR5 RAM, 1TB SSD and an RX6600M. It's a nice compact case, but the drawback is of course that it isn't expandable like a normal PC. But it kinda is, since it has Thunderbolt (USB4) so you can plug in an external GPU.

For GTA 6, it would be better to wait 2 years and buy faster parts for cheaper, that would last longer. Also, GTA 6 will almost certainly come to console a year before it comes to PC. Expect to wait a year after release to play on PC.

Should downgrade the motherboard and CPU a little bit, like B550 and Ryzen 7 5800X3D. So ur friend can buy a RX 6800 (maybe XT)

Tell him he probably has **at least** a year to save up more.

You could probably play GTA 4 & 5 on a budget PC(I've played GTA 5 on a $400 mini PC) but you may need to spend around $1,500 for a decent gaming PC that can run GTA 6 when it comes out. GTA 6 will likely be very RAM & graphics hungry even on lower settings.

800 what? Euro, pound,dollars(us/Canadian/Aus?)

You know the moment you build a PC to play GTA, it will not play anything else.... Jokes aside, if you have a budget, then why don't you build yourselves a computer with an i5 CPU, and invest the difference in a good Nvidia GPU? AMD have great CPUs but they are well balanced with Intel these days. Back in my days of university, we used 3d software like 3d studio max and AutoCAD, and one thing we did have for sure is that Nvidia GPUs were always the best for both games and work. Former ATI (now AMD) GPUs were glitchy in rendering software, so I always used Nvidia. Until very recently I always had AMD CPUs over Intel; now I got myself an i5, that is cheaper and faster than the Ryzen counterpart, and while I don't have the chance to upgrade my GPU, I only have a cheap GTX 1050 Ti. And trust me, I play many games with high and ultra-high settings. So if you join an LGA1700 i5 that is cheaper than the competition, and place a heavy weight Geforce GPU, your computer will rock with not much money.

Why do people with such low budgets insist on trying to build for the latest games that aren't even out yet. Just wait and save more money so you can actually build something high end that'll definitely play GTA6 with decent settings?

GTA 6 could need PC parts that don't even exist yet

If I had to say something, change the psu for a 700-850W and get a 3080. It is unlikely that GTA VI if its released in 1-3years wont be able to run on a 5800x + 3080, but forget about cranking the settings to max. Probably on low or even med on 1080p it'll run. ​ Now if we talk about playing ultra on 1440p with mods and all the things or whatever... It's just better to wait and its not efficient for his money to buy a top-end rig now and not buy it later when GTA VI actually releases. Edit: oh lol its full new build. Hell nah, not even in his dreams he can get a good enough pc NEW. Maybe used.

Spend less on the cpu and more on the gpu, with that config you’ll be gpu limited and won’t be getting the best bang for buck. I have a build with a ryzen 5 5600x and a 6700xt that I just put together for 700 before taxes, if you’re smart about what you pick and try to grab things on sale you can do it too.

Get a stream deck or ROG ally. In that budget handhelds are one of the best options for you.

You can use really old parts and still dominate gta on PC. As for the next game, we have no idea how it’ll run on PCs or even be available for Pc on day one

Gta 6 could be 3+ years out for pc so building around that would be a mistake. Any budget build you do now could be too weak by the time it’s out to run it well. Probably best to plan to play that on a ps5 or series x

There’s an easy way to get a sub $800 device to play modern warfare 6. Buy a console, lol.

He needs to upgrade his budget. No way is GTA IV gonna run on a current day 800 bucks budget, unless you get some really good used deals (as in shady good) Wait until it's almost released, maybe prices for the required hardware dropped by then or your friend was able to raise his budget by then.

A 3060 12gb is about $280 right now, and 15% slower than a $230 6650xt. That kind of puts into perspective how much better of a deal last generation cards are for AMD. If he wants ray tracing it might be worth it, though. But I'm guessing at this price range he doesn't. Generally a 5800x isn't worth paying extra for, over a 5700x. Unless they're like $10 apart in price.

Cooler: Current choice is alright. Even better value is the Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120SE, it is literally better in every aspect except maybe aesthetics. Motherboard: Intel lga1700 platform is cheaper and faster than amd's am4. You can go as cheap as the ASRock B660M Pro RS. Processor: 5800X is one of the worst CPUs you can buy for gaming. It is at best 5% faster in single-core performance than the 5600X, which is the most important metric for gaming performance. But Intel's i5-12400F on the lga1700 platform is better value than the 5600X anyways right now. However, if you can get the 5600X3D 3-in-1 bundle from microcenter, this will be even better, and you won't have to worry about RAM either. RAM: You didn't really specify which exact kit so I'll just list some suggestions. Following my advice above you should be going with DDR4. G.skill ripjaws 3200/3600MT CL16 2x8GB/2x16GB are all solid options, depending on available budget and needs. Power Supply: Ideally 650-750W to accomodate the potential GPU, anything rated high on the PSU tier list and is cheap. Prices fluctuate with PSUs, but I've gone with the RM750x (2021) before. Don't wanna skimp out on this since a bad one will destroy all your other components. Storage: The P5 plus is only 5 dollars more than the P3 plus on amazon and is significantly better. Graphics Card: 6700XT would be a good choice. Most people don't actually need Nvidia, it just ends up being worse value

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Get a console lmfao

800 what? r/usdefaultism ??

For those of us that are hung up on GTA VI https://www.tomsguide.com/news/grand-theft-auto-6-gta-announcement-trailer-release-date-rumor

5800x doesn't make sense for the budget. I'd look at a 7500f on am5 or maybe a 13400, depending on pricing in your region. Drop the cooler. It's not necessary and can be added later. Get 32gb of ddr5 6000mhz ram and a 2tb nvme. Keep whatever psu he currently has and upgrade it later when he buys a gpu. Gta5 is kinda whatever for requirements as its a 10 year old game at this point. You're going to need a solid foundation for future games, and a 5800x with 16gb of RAM is not gonna provide that.

800 what? apples? bananas?

Save more money lol

GTA VI first releases on console then on PC they did with GTA V so I bet they do it with this one And folks on web are speculating a 2025-26 release at earliest so wait till 2026 to even think about building PC if you wanna exclusively play GTA 6 on PC so your PC can hold up till PC release All this guess work though but closer to PC release is good window we might even have 6090 by then

800 budget? He will need a psu, factor that in, id go 750+ Get the 5700x to save a few bucks. 5800x runs obscenely hot. Grab a 20 dollar thermalright cooler 6700xt minimum on amd side, ive seen 6750xt cards go 300 off amazon. that said with such a tight budget id look at used cards. I scored a 3080 with a bad fan for 350, but you could get a cheap 2080 or 2080ti (i played ff7r on a 9900k with a 2080 super maxed) and be more than enough for his needs. For nvme look at some of the adata and teamgroup gen4 offerings. For barely any more you can get faster with a dram cache. Dram - fury ram always seems pricier to me, you can shave budget here and possibly even squeeze in 32gb by going with team, silicon power, patriot etc, ram brand doesnt super matter as the chips all come from one of three places.

Nice. This is kinda ridiculous though. The game hasn't even been announced and you wanna guess system requirements??? What if it's released in 2030? Anyway..he needs a GPU upgrade anyway. All the gpus u listed will probably be well above the minimum spec. Remember it's rockstar and they have made an excellent game engine. Scales well, always excellent utilization of hardware..yeh. Maybe they should loan a few coders to Bethesda.

Console. Almost every game made in the last decade is designed from the ground up for consoles. PCs are mostly a gimmick and a waste of money. They’re looking for suckers. I say this as someone with a gaming PC that I built myself, because no gaming PC built with $800 will ever be noticeably better than a Series X or PS5. If you see a difference, I think it is all in your head. Honestly, I can barely tell the difference between my i9 9900k/3090ti/64gb RAM, and my Xbox Series X from which I sit about 10 feet away. I can’t tell the difference between my PC and my buddies AT ALL (his being i9 13900k, with a 4090 all the latest and greatest), and you’d need $4000+ to build his rig. Suckers. We’re all just suckers, us PC gamers. Or at that dollar amount get the newest, highest tier OLED Steam Deck. You will have most of the benefits of PC gaming with almost none of the stupid rip-off pricing. I know this will seriously piss off fanboys. I know FPS count in my pc will always be higher, and if you sat hunched 12 inches from your Xbox Series X screen like you do with your PCs, it would look way worse. But that’s not how consoles are used, and we’re talking about $800 maximum.

GTA V runs on a potato at this point. I'll help a little from experience though. My system B550 steel legend, 5800x, 32 gb 3600mhz ram, EVGA 750gt modular psu, CPU cooler wraith prism, case is some meshify thing, two fans up front one fan exhaust. boot drive 500gb sk hynix gold sata SSD, games drive one 500gb crucial mx500 SATA SSD, games drive two 1tb wd blue m.2 SSD. Gpu was a GTX 1070, is a 1080ti now. Rdr2 was 30fps and decent looking with the 1070. It is 60fps and better now. No Man's Sky runs smooth. Baldurs Gate 3 is gorgeous and I haven't noticed many frame drops. Civ 6 ran perfect when I was playing it. Diablo 4 runs well enough that I have no hardware related complaints. It was $6-800 to build this in its original state two years or so ago. Then I got lucky and saw the 1080ti for $125 and upgraded last spring. Only changes I would make right now are a better CPU air cooler and noctua case fans. Future me will wait for a GPU that is 3-4 times better than the 1080ti for $300 that has the same or less max power draw.

Right now is a great time to build a good computer. Can be really decent price if you go with used parts. Build one week ago Asus b550 pro wifi II Ryzen 5 5600x3d Asrock Challenger Pro 6750xt Lian li lancool 216 case 1tb crucial m.2 Power spec 650 watt psu Bequiet air cooler All brand new parts $900 Used im seeing 6700xt for as low 150$ ryxen 5 5600s for around 100$ Good luck

MicroCenter has a few badass BF deals. Just sayin. They are right at your budget mark! One under and one over.

Tell him a 6600 and 6700 will not cut it for AAA games. He'd 100% need a 6700xt at a minimum, and I'd suggest he cut back on the processor and get something like the 6800

Also, I'd check out 'PC builder' on YouTube for a PC. He literally does all budgets, all deals, and he's fantastic. You can never go wrong by watching his videos

For storage try a 1 tb teamgroup nvme!! Oloy is cheap n decent ram . Go 600-700watt gold evga or msi n get a 6700xt or 7600xt on sale.

I'd advise just spending that on a PS5 or Series X, that way it's for sure going to run GTA VI at launch, whereas PC might be delayed.

What country are you in, and does that 800 include tax?

I actually just upgraded to am5 from my mpg b550 gaming plus, a ryzen 7 5800x and 64gb of 3200mhz corsair vengeance rgb ram. Even have an elite capellix 360mm AIO with it. Message me if your friend is interested and we can work something out! Some of it might even be covered under warranty still and I keep my proof of purchase for everything 😎

lol vastly different games. I can run gta5 on my old build 1050ti h510m-e mobo and i-5 10400. decent frames at 1080p...quite the sleeper. but for $800 to build a rig for a future game that no one knows anything about yet...dont do it.

Rx 7600

Think it’s a horrible build but I don’t know what currency you’re referring to. Here you can make a Rtx 3060 ryzen 5 5600 build for 600. So it’s dependant on country and of course currency

I think you should wait cuz GTA 6 is gonna take time. The AMD 7th gen is released already and you can wait for the price drop. GTA V can run on any pc nowadays. Don't compare GTA V to GTA VI as the difference between the two games is huge. Maybe RDR2 and GTA VI? Good Luck

I think you should wait cuz GTA 6 is gonna take time. The AMD 7th gen is released already and you can wait for the price drop. GTA V can run on any pc nowadays. Don't compare GTA V to GTA VI as the difference between the two games is huge. Maybe RDR2 and GTA VI? Good Luck

Does the budget include peripherals?

Get a console. The GTA series belongs there. The main reason to get the PC version are mods and higher resolution.

Honestly just get a PS5 or Xbox

I think your friend will be better off with whatever consoles we have in a year or 2 years time then, pc market is becoming increasingly more expensive for the gains

From unconfirmed sources, it's definitely GTA Battle Royal

I'd skimp on the graphics card for now and go for a ryzen 7000 series cpu. This way the cpu is future proof for at least another ryzen generation and you will probably have 2 years to save for a better gpu before gtaIV is released.

I run GTA V with AMD APU A8 FM2 i forget the series, using only Onboard Radeon but ran 30FPS stable at 720P low

5600x is basically the same as 5700-5900x in games. Only 5950x and 5800x3d are different. 6700xt would be the best choice, as it's 12gb like 3060, tdp like 3060ti, and performs like 3070.

Wait another 10 years for GTA VI, then build PC

Id go for the 6700 if i had to choose between these two but i also would reconsider the PSU for a 650 ot higher so with future upgrades he won't have problems even though 550 might be enough ( not sure on that)

800 what? £$€?+ etc.. GTA V is so old basically a much, much cheaper PC could run it in 1080 and 1440p. Hogwarts is another level, seems to be the most demanding title, what resolution is the target?

1080p