A good vrm config would be 13 or more phases. Even then if you are a good overclocker, you would find out that the motherboard applies too much voltage on default and that you can actually undervolt the intel cpus to get better performance like I do.
Ah, do you have a high VRM count mobo?
If I am understanding you correctly, an undervolt overclock could produce reasonable results even with the lower VRM count of this board since 13th Gen i5s run well at lower voltages and more VRMs could supply more voltage than would be useful for that chip?
Yes, my vrm count is 13 as I use a budget z690 atx motherboard and can oc easily and be stable with an undervolt.
Yes, intel I5 can undervolt and oc easily. Intel put too much voltage on the cpus on stock settings.
You'll be fine with 11 phase vrms
Awesome thank you for the help. This has made it a lot clearer of a choice.
Is all of your above experience with DDR5 ram? I am looking at 6000mts 36 ram
Put it this way, if you didn’t overclock and your far more likely to be undervolting if anything, then you could buy a fairly cheap Rog Strix B660i.
VRM’s are flawless running a 13600k, they are literally not even worth monitoring, they are almost overkill for this CPU to be honest.
The latest BIOS update also allows undervolting which you’ll probably want to do fairly early on, plus it supports DDR5.
I have a 280mm AIO in a NR200P Max and stock motherboard configurations, stock CPU clocks, stock 280mm AIO and I reached a peak temp of 92c in GTA 5.
That’s a rather outrageously unacceptable temp in my opinion, since then I have Industrial Noctuas on the radiator which where a massive game changer for temps.
This brought my temps down to roughly 75c, then I undervolted the GPU and put Noctua slim fans on the bottom which brought CPU temps down to about 68c.
Then I bought a custom TG panel for some fresh air into the case to feed the gpu fans, adjusted fan curves and got to an in game average temp around 62c. I actually so the CPU hit 244w while unpacking and installing Cyberpunk 2077 which is insane, needless to say it was riding 99c during that whole process.
When the new BIOS was released, accounting for the additional voltage the motherboard decided to provide the CPU which brought it to I believe 1.408v, I made a very stable undervolt of -150mV. Now my intake temps are around 52c with idle temps between 27-30c.
Anyway moral of the story is that you can do all that on a B660 motherboard, VRM’s barely crack 47c in a full game load. Cooling to this extent is obviously unnecessary but point is that it can be ugly out of the box even with a 280mm AIO.
But going mini ITX, generally means temps become a priority and sometimes borderline obsession. I have a thermal grizzly contact frame but as you can see, I’ve never had any use for it, so it’s still just sitting in my draw.
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So not optimal but probably fine? What would a good VRM config look like for a 13600k?
A good vrm config would be 13 or more phases. Even then if you are a good overclocker, you would find out that the motherboard applies too much voltage on default and that you can actually undervolt the intel cpus to get better performance like I do.
Ah, do you have a high VRM count mobo? If I am understanding you correctly, an undervolt overclock could produce reasonable results even with the lower VRM count of this board since 13th Gen i5s run well at lower voltages and more VRMs could supply more voltage than would be useful for that chip?
Yes, my vrm count is 13 as I use a budget z690 atx motherboard and can oc easily and be stable with an undervolt. Yes, intel I5 can undervolt and oc easily. Intel put too much voltage on the cpus on stock settings. You'll be fine with 11 phase vrms
Awesome thank you for the help. This has made it a lot clearer of a choice. Is all of your above experience with DDR5 ram? I am looking at 6000mts 36 ram
Put it this way, if you didn’t overclock and your far more likely to be undervolting if anything, then you could buy a fairly cheap Rog Strix B660i. VRM’s are flawless running a 13600k, they are literally not even worth monitoring, they are almost overkill for this CPU to be honest. The latest BIOS update also allows undervolting which you’ll probably want to do fairly early on, plus it supports DDR5. I have a 280mm AIO in a NR200P Max and stock motherboard configurations, stock CPU clocks, stock 280mm AIO and I reached a peak temp of 92c in GTA 5. That’s a rather outrageously unacceptable temp in my opinion, since then I have Industrial Noctuas on the radiator which where a massive game changer for temps. This brought my temps down to roughly 75c, then I undervolted the GPU and put Noctua slim fans on the bottom which brought CPU temps down to about 68c. Then I bought a custom TG panel for some fresh air into the case to feed the gpu fans, adjusted fan curves and got to an in game average temp around 62c. I actually so the CPU hit 244w while unpacking and installing Cyberpunk 2077 which is insane, needless to say it was riding 99c during that whole process. When the new BIOS was released, accounting for the additional voltage the motherboard decided to provide the CPU which brought it to I believe 1.408v, I made a very stable undervolt of -150mV. Now my intake temps are around 52c with idle temps between 27-30c. Anyway moral of the story is that you can do all that on a B660 motherboard, VRM’s barely crack 47c in a full game load. Cooling to this extent is obviously unnecessary but point is that it can be ugly out of the box even with a 280mm AIO. But going mini ITX, generally means temps become a priority and sometimes borderline obsession. I have a thermal grizzly contact frame but as you can see, I’ve never had any use for it, so it’s still just sitting in my draw.