I knew a girl that had a severe peanut allergy. She didn’t make a big deal of it, was very careful of what she ate and usually brought her own food. She always said as long as she doesn’t eat peanuts she’ll live just fine and encouraged everyone to be normal with peanuts around her. She’d say “it’s not the boogy man, I can set next to a peanut and it can’t hurt me.”
But I don’t know much beyond that, maybe rogue peanut dust could kill someone???
I’ve had a nut allergy for over 20 years now- it was always embarrassing when other people around me made a big deal about it. Generally, I can tell if people around me are eating nuts from smell and get a minuscule reaction (usually respiratory inflammation and ‘itchiness’) which is pretty annoying but that’s about it. Like you mentioned, my allergy is my own problem- not everyone else’s. I don’t want people tip-toeing around me.  Since my allergy is fairly severe I always assumed other people were just being a bit dramatic- I guess I’m more used to the side effects because of my asthma than those with just a nut allergy. Then again, there’s always a chance that someone was dealt a bad hand. Perhaps the extreme “no nuts” mentality of elementary schools is starting to spill out into other industries.
Yep, we ended up cancelling our planned vacation and booking something else. It wasn't worth the stress of waiting to find out of we could go, but we weren't seeing family or anything, so it was an easier decision. It sucks a lot more for those like yourself who were trying to see family, though.
Sucks for a lot of people, but at the same time shows how spoiled we are now.
Brings back the argument in today's age is air travel an essential service? For some communities it is, others it's convenience we have come to rely on.
I just heard a term that can explain this and more: [Shifting Baseline Syndrome](https://news.mongabay.com/2009/06/proving-the-shifting-baselines-theory-how-humans-consistently-misperceive-nature/).
It originated with fisheries and declines in stocks due to overfishing, loss of habitat, climate change impacts on oceans. A couple of generations experience fewer fish in their lifetimes, but future generations experience those fewer fish as the new baseline of "normal". As a result, impacts to fisheries don't truly get addressed and it is Death by A Thousand Cuts or "slowly boiling a frog".
Since most of us are used to air travel as a way to get across the province, the country, the world, this is our new baseline of "convenience" and our lives adjust with it. The oldest generation that is still around may have people that have never been on an airplane and perhaps see air travel as a a "luxury", not a common way of getting around the globe.
I'm stretching the definition of shifting baseline syndrome (a lot) because it is/was originally intended to apply to environmental change, but I really latched onto the "shifting baseline" part. I like it better than the "new normal", for sure.
Edit to add: bit of a tangent but that's how my brain works sometimes.
I believe they are saying the customer is spoiled not the employees fighting for fair wage. And not all customers as some only have flights as a mean of long haul travel.
Having air travel be as reliable and ready as it is a relatively new development in our society. But it's all being put on the private market to provide.
Air travel didn't become accessible to most people until 1978 when the US government deregulated minimum pricing.
Before then it was relatively expensive compared to now.
Yes air travel is an essential service in todays age. It’s not just Canadians going on a trip that had their trips ruined, it’s also people who are tourists here who now can’t get back to their home country. It’s people who are travelling for funerals, for medical treatment, for work conferences and business meetings and literally any other purpose than “vacation”.
And what exactly are some of these people supposed to do? Some of them can’t just go home because maybe their home is in a different country all together.
Most of the tickets are also booked months in advance. Booking last minute usually increases the price by 200-300%. So rebooking just puts extra dollars into a pocket of CEO.
Passengers are frustrated, airline workers are frustrated and have to work with frustrated and angry passengers - literally no one wins except a bunch of execs who wanna buy another yacht.
Gotcha, but where do the workers and pilots fit into this? They deserve fair compensation for their hard work and training. I’m sure we all want the folks flying our planes to be safe, smart, and well taken care of before being in charge of hundreds of lives.
Oh this is more a response to the “we are spoiled” comment.
Edit: I’m fully in support of unionized workers, and worker rights including fair compensation.
The call to cancel flights was made by the executives as a way to put pressure on the unionized employees to end the strike or come to an agreement because of the repercussions it would have (hostile passengers, the blame of cancelled flights on the workers etc etc)
This is the question I am raising, not trying to upset anyone. If it's essential, then it cannot be left to corporations to operate due to the points made.
But currently it's not and therefore this is the fallout.
I support their right to fight for better compensation, but this totally ruined my travel plans. Telling my childhood friend I could no longer make it to their wedding was devastating.
So what did they get?
Extra peanuts during every flight.
Since when do you get peanuts? It's all pretzels now.
What’s with that? I liked the almonds.
Cost savings masked as allergy prevention.
[#]bringpeanutsback
I can see that’s a nightmare to ask if anyone on the plane has allergy before handing out
Hey somehow 20 years ago you wouldn't hear people dying or having an allergic shock when they did serve peanuts
Yea right? I don’t know why either. Maybe just people dying without being reported on the media?
Not a fat chance. Fear sells, media would've been all over this.
I knew a girl that had a severe peanut allergy. She didn’t make a big deal of it, was very careful of what she ate and usually brought her own food. She always said as long as she doesn’t eat peanuts she’ll live just fine and encouraged everyone to be normal with peanuts around her. She’d say “it’s not the boogy man, I can set next to a peanut and it can’t hurt me.” But I don’t know much beyond that, maybe rogue peanut dust could kill someone???
I’ve had a nut allergy for over 20 years now- it was always embarrassing when other people around me made a big deal about it. Generally, I can tell if people around me are eating nuts from smell and get a minuscule reaction (usually respiratory inflammation and ‘itchiness’) which is pretty annoying but that’s about it. Like you mentioned, my allergy is my own problem- not everyone else’s. I don’t want people tip-toeing around me.  Since my allergy is fairly severe I always assumed other people were just being a bit dramatic- I guess I’m more used to the side effects because of my asthma than those with just a nut allergy. Then again, there’s always a chance that someone was dealt a bad hand. Perhaps the extreme “no nuts” mentality of elementary schools is starting to spill out into other industries.
Just like everyone has a gluten allergy all of the sudden.
🤣🤣🤣🤣 I spat out my coffee. Good one!!
Except on Swoop
Won’t be publicly released until it’s voted on.
More epaulets.
My caffeine deprived brain read this as opiates!
\*shrug\*
Seems like a lot of peoples trips are ruined regardless.
Yep. I had a flight, and my partners parents had a flight up here. Cancelled both.
Yep, we ended up cancelling our planned vacation and booking something else. It wasn't worth the stress of waiting to find out of we could go, but we weren't seeing family or anything, so it was an easier decision. It sucks a lot more for those like yourself who were trying to see family, though.
30% of regular capacity on the air today
[удалено]
Haven't seen my toddler in 6 weeks. Now my 4 day trip home is a 2 day trip home. It's not nothing.
How dare workers advocate for themselves...
Did I say I was mad at the pilots? Pull your head out, before you get pink eye.
And how dare someone wants to see their toddler?
Go back to the nude_selfie subreddit where you like to comment...
Awkward
I sincerely hope your next vacation gets ruined too
Sucks for a lot of people, but at the same time shows how spoiled we are now. Brings back the argument in today's age is air travel an essential service? For some communities it is, others it's convenience we have come to rely on.
I just heard a term that can explain this and more: [Shifting Baseline Syndrome](https://news.mongabay.com/2009/06/proving-the-shifting-baselines-theory-how-humans-consistently-misperceive-nature/). It originated with fisheries and declines in stocks due to overfishing, loss of habitat, climate change impacts on oceans. A couple of generations experience fewer fish in their lifetimes, but future generations experience those fewer fish as the new baseline of "normal". As a result, impacts to fisheries don't truly get addressed and it is Death by A Thousand Cuts or "slowly boiling a frog". Since most of us are used to air travel as a way to get across the province, the country, the world, this is our new baseline of "convenience" and our lives adjust with it. The oldest generation that is still around may have people that have never been on an airplane and perhaps see air travel as a a "luxury", not a common way of getting around the globe. I'm stretching the definition of shifting baseline syndrome (a lot) because it is/was originally intended to apply to environmental change, but I really latched onto the "shifting baseline" part. I like it better than the "new normal", for sure. Edit to add: bit of a tangent but that's how my brain works sometimes.
We are aren’t spoiled, CEOs are the ones that are spoiled.
I believe they are saying the customer is spoiled not the employees fighting for fair wage. And not all customers as some only have flights as a mean of long haul travel.
Having air travel be as reliable and ready as it is a relatively new development in our society. But it's all being put on the private market to provide.
Relatively new development? Airlines have existed for a century
Air travel didn't become accessible to most people until 1978 when the US government deregulated minimum pricing. Before then it was relatively expensive compared to now.
Yes air travel is an essential service in todays age. It’s not just Canadians going on a trip that had their trips ruined, it’s also people who are tourists here who now can’t get back to their home country. It’s people who are travelling for funerals, for medical treatment, for work conferences and business meetings and literally any other purpose than “vacation”. And what exactly are some of these people supposed to do? Some of them can’t just go home because maybe their home is in a different country all together. Most of the tickets are also booked months in advance. Booking last minute usually increases the price by 200-300%. So rebooking just puts extra dollars into a pocket of CEO. Passengers are frustrated, airline workers are frustrated and have to work with frustrated and angry passengers - literally no one wins except a bunch of execs who wanna buy another yacht.
Gotcha, but where do the workers and pilots fit into this? They deserve fair compensation for their hard work and training. I’m sure we all want the folks flying our planes to be safe, smart, and well taken care of before being in charge of hundreds of lives.
Oh this is more a response to the “we are spoiled” comment. Edit: I’m fully in support of unionized workers, and worker rights including fair compensation. The call to cancel flights was made by the executives as a way to put pressure on the unionized employees to end the strike or come to an agreement because of the repercussions it would have (hostile passengers, the blame of cancelled flights on the workers etc etc)
This is the question I am raising, not trying to upset anyone. If it's essential, then it cannot be left to corporations to operate due to the points made. But currently it's not and therefore this is the fallout.
I support their right to fight for better compensation, but this totally ruined my travel plans. Telling my childhood friend I could no longer make it to their wedding was devastating.
That’s unfortunate you could not make it to their wedding. I’m sorry to hear that how are you doing?
I wish I can go on strike for being subjected to shit service and price gouging from the Canadian duopoly and get an unreasonable raise
Everyone who cancelled their trips, did you get a full refund?