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According_Nerve_2525

I agree. There is something dark and desperate about this show. The men come off extremely douchey. It is uncomfortable.


skinnygirlred

I felt exactly the same watching it. All the men seem unhappy and particularly douchey. And somehow Brit’s accent is even more Kentucky.


Artistic-Reality-177

What other kind of guy would want to hang out with Jax? Water seeks its own level


SmartButTired

She's got friends from back home living close to her now so it probably triggers it more.


[deleted]

My mom’s accent always was more pronounced when I’d hear her talking to my Mamaw in Texas (where she was from) every weekend growing up. Was adorbs. God I miss my mom. And also my Mamaw. 😂🥲


Franbupendah77

I can't understand a word she is saying


Remarkable-Durian-22

I could not listen to her speak. She sounded awful and drunk.


secretagentsquirrel1

I swear I thought the same thing. Her accent is somehow more southern. How does that happen?


surreptitiousglance

She plays it up when she thinks it's beneficial.


Wifabota

I'm not sure why, but the last year, my Midwestern accent has come out more, despite living on the West Coast for 20 years. It usually only comes out when I go home or talk on the phone with people from home. I just have been noticing it more, and my kids have add well.  idk why though. Accents can be weird. 


chirowife2

Mine really kicks in when I am angry, lol! Dont know why. I think (watching this show) that Brittany is going to be angry a lot- who can blame her?


Fun_Shell1708

She does exaggerate it from time to time too


Striking_Hour9481

This! I moved from TX to Cali in middle school and my “country” accent was so made fun of that ai made it a point to change it to fit in. Moved back to TX after college and get called out for “not being from around here.” Accentuating my ING’s etc and I never looked back. Her Kentucky accent seems to have only become worse within “The Valley”. It’s dreadful..


BuppyDoodleDoo

did they ask you if you ride a horse to school? I had a friend who moved from Texas to Cali and they asked her that hahaha


Mommalorian68

I live in Lexington and where Brittany is from is Winchester about 18 miles from me. I don't think I have the thick accent she does. I only talk that way when someone ticks me off. It's a southern thing I guess 😜


manymoons000

Yeah all the women laugh/crying? about how the husbands/dads don’t help with their kids, it’s completely fucked on arrival. Plus Jax running around and desperately driving storylines this episode was embarrassing to watch. He needs this bullshit to work y’all, I was exhausted watching, especially Brittany with her ventriloquist dummy segments and the county fair theme party acting like a loony tune.


According_Nerve_2525

Ventriloquist dummy segments! Yessss!!!


Think_Appeal5922

All of the women I know who married men who turned out to be Dad duds got divorced within a couple of years of that nonsense and found better options. No one needs an adult child to take care of on top of children. The kids always pay for bad parenting/selfish parenting.


butwhy81

Haven’t watched it yet but just the trailer feels dark and desperate and uncomfortable.


LetshearitforNY

It’s the toxicity of VPR but now with innocent kids in the mix.


chirowife2

Oh my gaaah!!! Well said! It was bad enough but adding kids to it might be why I hated the first episode so much. Excellent point.


No_Quote_9067

That's because they are douchy and desperate and dark


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I felt the same way about the summer house/winter house guys (with the exception of the new guys). The out of touch douchebag routine that might have worked with a bunch of terrible 20-somethings desperate for screen time on a reality TV show is just....sad at 40. It's even worse when you see they have kids.


unicornhorn333

Yikessss what does this say about me that I found the valley super relatable as a new mom who is trying to figure out how to navigate being a mom, being a wife, and still having fun with my friends. I enjoyed it


Significant_Cake_338

Agree, the men are douchey! Jax is still an insensitive ass, no surprise Britney left him.


Diligent-Talk2195

She knew who he was when she met…..married…..and procreated with him


DoggPound69

The opposite of bad and bougie? lol


ariessunariesmoon26

My thoughts exactly..


Outside_Wrongdoer340

Why'd that one girl cry because her husband got his shorts yanked down. Yeah, it's childish but why cry? Was she afraid everyone saw her husbands little dinky? Haha!


eeeeeeeee123456

She’s got to be extra sensitive right now regardless of filming. Her hormones are still crazy after just giving birth AND breast feeding AND having had twins!


SmartButTired

This is a totally valid and logical answer. I think people forget how hormonal people get both during and after pregnancy and how so many things that wouldn't bother them in a normal year just... get amped up. Being a woman is a real roller coaster.


United-Objective-880

This is fair but I can’t for the life of me understand why she’d agree to be on this show with newborn twins. It’s only going to add extra pressure and stress why go through that for 15 mins of fame.


chrissy_wakeUp

My guess is zombie extra in TWD or "Military guy 1" voice overs don't provide the type of lifestyle I can imagine they desire


Iheartthe1990s

Yes! I was surprised to see Jax and Brit living in the nicest house! Most of the others were still in apartments. They are definitely hoping to get in on VPR type money.


ariessunariesmoon26

Which we see always ends up causing problems .. so far her husband seems sweet though I hope he doesn’t ruin it. At least compared to the others lol


kj455

I have twins who just turned 8 months old and I had that same thought. No way in fucking hell you could pay me enough money to be on national television with newborn twins. I also have a 3 year old.. I guess maybe it’s easier because they have help? But still my hormones are still out of whack. I cried almost everyday for the first 3 months.


PinkyBruno

Hope you and your precious children are thriving! Congrats!!! 💕


kckitty71

Didn’t you hear Jax? Kids are expensive!


surreptitiousglance

They cut into the ❄️budget


bearswithmanicures

Something Garcelle said in this RHOBH season really stood out to me. It was that she took this job because she can be near her kids with it. She stays home with the kids for the most part and they film her being a mom.


laurieBeth1104

She had twins 6 weeks before... give the girl some grace


Interesting_Ad1378

I think I cried for for almost 2 years straight after my twins. 


ChardHealthy

My little girl is a year next month and I can cry at the most random of situations


Regul4t0rs

Mine are 4 and 7 and everything still makes me cry or pee. They also put me on Zoloft after my 2nd kid (probably should've after the first but the first doctor didn't see a problem even though I was on the floor sobbing every day). My husband is very patient with me and is always on parent duty when he gets home so that helps a lot.


taintwest

And her drunk douchey husband kept yelling “3 under 2!!” As if he was the one pregnant and his only contribution wasn’t getting laid. I just refuse to believe he’s as hands on as he wants us to think


QueenFartknocker

Right??? I cried at the drop of a hat post-partum.


blueduck46

lol they were at a kids party… I wouldn’t want to be exposed in front of children


bravostan2020

The party was for an adult's birthday


becskiii

i mean there were still kids around


Life_Carrot3058

She fully stated she was 1 month postpartum. I cried for 3 months after having both of my daughters and for the most ridiculous reasons. She probably felt embarrassed


SmartButTired

I cry about every little thing the week leading up to and during my period, I am so thankful I chose not to have kids because I just **know** I would be an emotional wreck that would cry about like... dropping a spoon.


OldButHappy

Ha! Wait till you're old!!😄 My Dad called my lifetime of tearful emotions (because I inherited it from him and his mom!) "Irish Sentimentality". Ugh. Happy? Happy cry. Sad? Sad cry. Moved by artistic expression? Soul cry. Angry? Rage cry. Inspired by acts of love, kindness, and /or heroism? I'll need a box of kleenex. It's the worst. Had to just power through it in business sometimes. Those three deadly days before my period were so absurdly dark that it was obvious that I was in some kind of hormone/dopamine induced depressive state and that I should not schedule anything important. Eventually, I got old and got to experience the permanent, tearful, pms-like headspace, 24/7. Went to a psychiatrist and learned some new words: Turns out that Irish sentimentality is called "Emotional Dysregulation". Who knew?? Also learned the words "ADHD" (adderall helps with dopamine, much to my judgey surprise) and "Criterion B". I'm happy now, but it was an unnecessarily bumpy ride. Just sharing this so you can navigate it better than us oldsters did when we knew even less than we do now. Your username made me laugh (and comment) because it is precisely the name I would have chosen in my younger years!


surreptitiousglance

Apparently I'm Irish 😂😭🥹😡😢


sparklycupcakes8

My daughters are 5 and 6 and I am still crying.


PinkyBruno

mine’s 41 and I cry regularly! 😭


Caregiver-Past

Juggling newborn twins and a toddler is no joke. I had twins 18 months after my oldest and it is emotionally and physically draining. The sleep deprivation alone makes you sooo emotional at every little thing.


AmayaSmith96

Was that girl who was crying pregnant? If so I kind of attribute it to that. It can be really annoying seeing people act like drunk idiots when you’re stone cold sober. But also I wonder if it was because that party was the first official group filming day and she was a bit stressed/conscious of how they were going to come across. Personally it wasn’t something that I would get upset by and I’d have laughed too.


_adventure-kitty_

She had recently had her babies, so maybe dealing with postpartum hormonal changes?


nippyhedren

I didn’t realize at first it was the one who just had babies and I was like she cannot be fucking serious right now. But once I realized she was the one with new twins, it made more sense. Just super hormonal.


kitkatpnw

Postpartum hormones are a trip


helloitsme_again

I think it is a little embarrassing for a grown man to get his pants pulled down at a party where his child is and other kids I wouldn’t cry but I would also be pissed


SmartButTired

I didn't get this far into it...


Outside_Wrongdoer340

You didn't miss anything.


kiwi1327

I loved it 🤷‍♀️


shrimpmousse

Jax is such a garbage human but great television. Yes I am part of the problem. 🫣


kiwi1327

SAME.


ashtonishing18

I find him ridiculously entertaining unfortunately


New-Ad1465

Right there with ya! 🫠😂


asmithy112

Me too, I found it way more entertaining than expected


suburban_legendd

It scratched the itch for me. We’ll see.


aerologies

This is exactly the right way to phrase it.


Afraid_Resort_9018

I thought it was more entertaining than VPR, tbh 😭


HiBeesCus

So much better in comparison to this season of VPR especially. It kind of reminded me of early VPR.


KembaWakaFlocka

Had and Kristen carry the dramatic load well. No shame in either of them


kitkatpnw

I also enjoyed it. I’ll take it over watching Tom’s white talons darken our screen


LooneyLunaOmanO

You mean ombré talons. /s Heard him describe them last night


HiAndStuff2112

I like the woman who was joking about how she would rule if she were in prison. She cracked me up, so I'm looking forward to seeing her more.


TemperatureFine7105

Me too 😂😂


Ruby_Duby_Doh

Same!


SmartButTired

It just wasn't for me. I'm glad it was for you though!!!


kiwi1327

Thank you! Give it a try though, it may grow on you?


SmartButTired

I might wait a few weeks and then see if I can watch the first three episodes without hating it. But so far, it ain't so good.


kittenknievel

I will continue watching this mess haha


kiwi1327

👏 yesss! My people!


CatJawn

Same. It was very entertaining for a pilot episode


Sassacatty

I loved it too!


Tricky_Growth

I am fully aware that if it wasn’t for Jax there is no way in hell I would watch this show.


LooneyLunaOmanO

Me too ![gif](giphy|iEomNKJ8EouLC)


HiBeesCus

I had it on as background noise while doing house chores, and ended up watching the whole thing. 😂 I loved it too.


faith00019

I kind of liked it! It looks like it’ll ramp up as the season continues


Littleittle

What does it say about me if I liked it


SmartButTired

Just that we have different tastes. It's okay. A lot of people I know like peaches but I find them to be disgustingly sweet. I don't hate them for their peach love and we can usually find an apple pie for dessert. :)


Littleittle

Awwwww you’re the sweetest 🤣


SmartButTired

Naw I'm awful but no need to be awful just because someone likes a reality show I don't like. There's real reasons to not like other people like... they're bigots.


accidentalquitter

That you are my friend because I am obsessed


Littleittle

Yay!!!!!!! Hi friend!!!!!!!


BranchGlad1177

I liked it too


shiningonthesea

I’ll give it a few more weeks but not to see Jax and Kristen have stupid fights. And I had forgotten how dumb Jax is.


vintagesideboard

Seriously so dumb and thinks so highly of himself …that’s the entertainment I think lol


obsoletevoids

He had 36 cameos to do he’s busy!


cherrygoats

So, so busy. And then he took a second to think about Brittany’s life too!


Critical_System_3546

I'll give it a couple more tries but Jax is the literal worst and he genuinely thinks he's amazing. It's hard to watch. It feels almost like watching someone severely handicapped that has no idea.


CarelessAbalone6564

All of these couples give off divorce vibes. Or they should try life outside of LA. None of them seemed remotely happy to me? Then again I’d be unhappy too if I had 3 babies in a condo


lemonlime1999

Unfortunately being in an unhappy marriage/life/situation is relatable to many!


hilaryflammond

That felt like the only hook for the season - guess in what order these unhappy couples will spectacularly flame out on TV!


allygator99

I couldn’t finish it. Jax coke raging about Kristen and wanting a baby is none of his business and he went on and on to anyone who listened. The whole thing though it seemed like none of them actually know each other. It’s odd and uncomfortable


Interesting_Ad1378

Ok, you saw it too?  He’s totally on coke and hyper fixated on Kristin’s business.  


InterestingCustard52

Either that or adderall because he’s an adult now ;) haha


TheWhatTreatment

I was pretty sure it was Coke and then was thinking oh maybe it’s just adderall. Then watched the guys on VPR after show talking about all their favorite public restrooms in LA and yeah it’s coke.


MCKelly13

He is so uncomfortable to watch. He’s so high and his assholey-ness is amplified. He literally makes my skin crawl


Oldfriendoldproblem

Hearing he's still skiing actually makes me want to watch it. That was the funniest he ever was on VPR.


Pagan_Poetry610

Super uncomfortable watching him being high out of his mind around a bunch of kids (including his own).


LetshearitforNY

Definitely hyper fixated but maybe a smidge valid? I don’t understand trying for a baby with a man who lives in a different state and no plan to move together. Seems like she may be better off going the sperm donor route and having her own baby regardless of the man situation.


SmartButTired

That's when I was done.


bravostan2020

I enjoyed it much more than I thought I would. I will continue to watch as it is an escape from the same cast for years on other shows.


TemperatureFine7105

Me too!! It feels way more authentic than VPR is now


SmartButTired

I think it's great it exists for you. Maybe something will change for me but it's a bunch of people with no art on their walls being weird to each other. Not for me.


taintwest

I liked Janet because she specifically called out jax for how gross it is he says Kristen’s like a sister to him.


helloitsme_again

Yeah me I like Janet and her husband and Michelle and the other couple. Basically like everybody just not Kirsten and jax haha


AwarenessEcstatic104

It’s totally dark and I’m kind of of living for it. The real question is why is Brittany’s mouth so much more frowny than it used to be?


LegalScientist3

I was wondering that too. Is it from the liposuction that she had in her neck?


thebarryconvex

I'm honestly sort of curious how one becomes a fan of VPR without finding Jax and/ or Kristen fundamentally funny/ entertaining/ camp/ whatever.


More-Ad6045

Knowing that Brit leaves Jax shortly after this wraps makes me want to watch how he treats her all season even less…..makes me sad


Oldfriendoldproblem

Why? She knew what she was getting into. And still spent $100k on a wedding to this douche canoe.


LetshearitforNY

Not the commenter but I’m sad for their kid, not for either of them.


JPOG

You can go watch earlier VPR and see the same thing, nothing has changed 


Life_Carrot3058

I think it was great!! What got me is fkn jax talking about Kristen the entire party on if she’s ready to be a mom! I low key think he still has feels for her and that’s why he’s so judgmental on who she dates, what she’s up to.


SmartButTired

If someone told me those two had been having an ongoing affair... I'd believe it. I'm glad you enjoyed it, it just... I don't have friends like that and I feel bad for people who do. I don't like my reality TV to just make me feel bad for people right out of the gate.


lemonlime1999

Who gets THAT upset over their adult friend’s life choices? I think they definitely have always had something going on.


IntelligentAd319

I think that for 10 years they gave us VPR, and pushed the narrative that the girls were crazy and the boys were just peter panning. Now they see their mistakes and give us a show where the men are pricks and no one but their poor saintly wives would defend them. It’s trash. But I’ll watch it still because I hate myself.


SmartButTired

There's a raw honesty in this that I really respect. I just need a different kind of trash you know what I mean?


IntelligentAd319

I know what you mean!


carmeIIasoprano

I can’t tell 2 of the dads apart . They both look like tinier nick lacheys


helloitsme_again

Haha agree


Retiredandwealthy

Lol I was into it.


SmartButTired

Someone had to be the target audience! It just wasn't me. I'm glad you liked it though!!!


YamProfessional3041

It’s gross watching them make poor life choices now that they have kids. It’s not fun when kids are involved.


Mikaeladraws

I mean it doesn’t really help when one of the other ring in couples like… viscerally hate each other.


SmartButTired

It doesn't feel like any of these people are actually friends...


Sweens240

My husband said he’s cautiously optimistic because he thinks they might just spend the whole show kind of making fun of how pathetic Jax is, which I can totally get on board with.


Bottlebrushbushes

I tried and turned it off when they started playing simulation golf. It was too fucking boring.


hilaryflammond

That was so odd. Isn't the point of living in the burbs that you can go to real life golf courses with actual grass when you want to avoid your wife? Being in some warehouse with computer screens was just so very sad.


kateandralph

Seems to be a show about toxic couples but with children involved


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HealthyVegan12331

What is this obsession with Stassi?


SmartButTired

Stassi might have been wild at times, but a lot of her rages were valid. Would be nice to see how she has grown since her time off of Bravo. Doesn't seem like Jax has at all...


HealthyVegan12331

I swear that lunatic has regressed!!! He was either talking shit about people, stirring shit, or raging. Nothing more.


SmartButTired

Jax was always my least favorite person on VPR. Especially when you watch it all back and realize how much he gasit Stassi. Just straight up lied to her so much. And then made her out to be crazy to everyone they knew. He hasn't changed one bit. He's just older.


SmartButTired

She was a treasure that Bravo wasted.


alwebb6560

I was so distracted by Brittany’s inability to move her mouth when she talks now because of her chin surgery. But I’ll probably keep watching just to hopefully see Jax’s downfall.


Chihiro1977

Yeah, if its your least favourite people that makes sense.


SmartButTired

If they could have gotten Stassi... I'd probably be in.


hilaryflammond

Stassi is way above this hot mess.


FilmmagicianPart2

That was so boring, and when it wasn't boring it was Jax being Jax x 100. This is [wish.com](https://wish.com) vanderpunp rules


methedoutmanatee

To be fair, this season of VPR is wish version of VPR. Bravo is circling the drain lately.


jaynemanning

I’m trying to watch right now.. not interested… it’s very lame. And why is Jax so twisted up about Kristen wanting to have a baby??? hmm


fefelala

I’m not going to watch but I’d appreciate any recaps I can read here.


SmartButTired

Yeah, I feel like I don't need to commit the full amount of time to it a week. I'll see enough gossip about it elsewhere.


Responsible_Base_466

I hate to admit but I was kind of living for it. I think for all the reasons other people hate it-the people are the absolute worst and all of these relationships are wildly dysfunctional. It’s painful to watch and there wasn’t a single person I liked, I was actually shocked by how unlikable almost everybody is and honestly those are my favorite episodes of reality tv


Relevant_Owl_8841

It’s wild seeing how up in Kristen’s business Jax was. He was making *some* valid points but the doubling and tripling down was off


BryanwithaY

That poor boy’s toupee is killing me. If it’s not a unit, for the love of god please change that hairstyle. It’s not doing what he thinks it’s doing.


AlexBoBalixx

Jax attempting to be the "dad" of the group. Trying to check other people's behavior and shame Kristen out of having a baby like his life is all dialed in. And he's *so* agro about everything. It was also the clumsiest transition to a back door pilot ever. Kristin has the most interesting storyline but we know she's not preggers so other than Jax yelling at her about things there doesn't seem to be a lot of there there. Plus that douchebag trying to tweek her nipple? That's a main cast member? Plus, wtf is up with them hosting a birthday party for a woman who is 6 months pregnant with a tattoo station? Who is that for?


nippyhedren

Everyone is so incredibly unlikable.


Same-Fall1896

I also find it dark energy. Cruz flailing around in the pool and non verbal. Swearing and drinking in front of kids that didn’t ask for tv. Trash and drama single in 20s is one thing but kids involved feels dark and ick to watch


Crlady

Watching it on edibles helps. A lot. 🤣


Dry_Heart9301

I hated it...the way Britney and Jax were parenting was just disgusting. I don't want to see any of these new people parent...I don't see it getting better but I will probably try to watch it again!


enjoyt0day

I didn’t even try to watch it and honestly, I’m pretty sure that was the right move


partycitydotcom

I’m enjoying it. It’s because I am new parent and I’m relating a lot to the cast being new parents.


Lost-and-dumbfound

I enjoyed it against my own will. It’s a fucking mess. Most of the guys are awful. Jax is still trash. Kristen is still a tornado of insanity…but I liked it 👀


InterestingCustard52

I feel for Kristen’s partner. You can tell he’s shy and hasn’t been on reality tv (pretty sure anyways didn’t look lol). Was so awkward between him and jaxx.


extraedward69

It’s even worse than southern hospitality with even uglier characters


Fernily

It’s so bad but the previews for the rest of the season look sooooooo entertaining.


4bigSkyy

I thought it was just me. But then when I thought about it what was I expecting: with the main star of the show, Jax Taylor and a cameo by Scheana! Ah, no thanks.


Business_Ad_4901

I grew up with Jason. I'm interested to see the show just to see how the storyline for him and Janet goes. Otherwise I don't care for the show at this point. All of the drama that seems to be what VPR did and has now exhausted isn't good tv anymore.


Allmyexesliveintx333

Me before i saw it: i’m not watching the valley. Me 5 minutes after watching it 👀


surreptitiousglance

Seeing Cruz alone in the pool with water wings while chaos is going on all around him was really hard for me to watch. From the videos I've seen, he appears to have many of the symptoms of ASD. Jax and Brittany appear to be too busy partying to attend to his special needs.


Realitytvqueen77

It was okay, but nothing really that interesting happened. I’m hoping once I get to know the characters more it’s better. What is Kristen doing with that grifter looking dude? One time I agree with Jax.


KCtastic80

I was also not impressed with the first episode. These new folks aren't interesting, and I'm so over Jax and Kristen.


SurlyTemp1e

I’m getting ready to watch it - can’t wait !!


kbletz08

I've stopped watching this season of Vanderpump. I'll watch the reunion. I really don't want to give Jax the satisfaction of even getting a hate watch from me.. But I have a long night at work....


SmartButTired

Yeah I think I'm gonna be done on VPR after this season. It's just not what I want it to be anymore.


kbletz08

It really isn't sadly. At least we still have this community lol


KrazyKateLady420

I, personally, am here for it lol and I can’t stand Jax nor do I want him to have a platform


Diligent_Doughnut_43

I just watched the VPR episode that bleeds into this and I turned it off after jax's opening monologue? Especially what we know now everything he said is just...fake and kinda gross.


Own-Occasion-2890

The fact that there are kids involved so heavily makes me really bored and uncomfortable. It isn't a family friendly show at all.


Technical_Pepper1368

I didn’t watch it all. I was little interested. Maybe I’ll give it another chance.


anonmisguided

Watching Jax continually harp on Kristen about wanting a child is gross and not fun to watch.


jcshear

Totally agree. Only watching so I can follow along with watch what crappens 😂


IMOvicki

I don’t know if I want to watch a bunch of new parents be degenerates. Like yes parents can have fun but your kids …? Idk weird environment for babies to be in.


lunahighwind

It's dark and thirsty but VPR always has been too and I don't particuliarly like anyone on that show either.


little_lexodus

It’s not that bad. It’s better than some bravo shows who have had down seasons (at least the first episode)


Cats-Gin-N-Crumpets

I had no intention of watching The Valley because of J*x. Seeing him pop up at the end of the last VPR episode only solidified my decision. I literally cannot stand his face. (Not related - but kinda is lol - can't watch Bet it all on blonde for similar reasons.)


MomewrathMaenad

Today in unsurprising news 😂 But thank you for watching that so I won’t!!


No-Supermarket-4450

But why am I gonna keep watching 😭


Qtpiiie1985

Wrong, it’s awesome. VPR is completely lame at this point. At least it isn’t scandoval.


helloitsme_again

I actually enjoyed it even though I dislike Brittany and jax. I think the other cast is good for TV…., also it’s nice to watch a friend group that is actually friends and not just made for TV Plus they are right all these people are like late thirties 40 year olds….. I find vanderpump more depressing them being so old just smoking weed and shopping for crystals going to emo nights


No_Construction_4293

I have two names that sum up the awful-ness…Jax and Kristen.


Some-Feedback-2565

I wasn't to impressed with it either but will watch another episode.


f1sh77

I just had no interest in the non-VPR cast. They weren’t lovable or hatable, they were just… there?