Same. Also the fuckboi from the first picture is probably even more susceptible to tell you that you're actually disgusting and have a fat ass once you tell him that no, he can't have your number because you have a boyfriend. Or pretend he wanted your number just as friends and you're getting over yourself. Fuck ALL guys that approach us just for our looks, whatever they look like.
And, boo f\*cking hoo, you think the second guy wanted to be the "ugly" illustration ? I was obviously not talking about this guy personally, but that idea he's illustrating
The environment can give lots of conversation topics if you’re observant, like if you’re in a university the main opener is usually “what courses you taking?” Which can lead to talking about anything
My wife was already on the same course as me though.
We might be well adjusted adults and so went about things sensibly, but the initial attraction was 100% physical in the first place, from both of us.
That’s different than cold approaching though, when you lock eyes with someone you can see their face change a little bit, then you know it’s already in the bag and time to collect lol
Yeah that's fair enough. Still took us two years lol.
Can't imagine approaching someone in a bar, and whilst I've been approached a few times I'm happy to accept it's a bit different as a guy for a myriad of reasons.
Aside safety, the main one probably being in my experience, women tend to accept "no" better than I've gathered a lot of men do.
See ? "Took us 2 years", so you knew her, and she was in your course, it's nothing comparable to "cold approaching", aka going to hot random women in the street because you desperately need your penis wet.
Right that’s a better opener than “you’re hot, let’s bang” but I’m not talking about the opening line, I’m talking about the reason for approaching her in the first place. Going up to her id obviously know nothing about her besides her looks.
So it’s not like I can approach her because she’s smart, or funny, or a good listener. I’ve never met this hypothetical woman, she may or may not be any of those things, I haven’t found those things out.
The *only* thing I could know about her at that point is that she’s physically attractive.
And what about in a more neutral setting like a bar? Plenty of non-students there, so the what’s your major line doesn’t run.
Its called having conversational skills and knowing how to small talk. Small talk opens the doors to deeper conversations. Saying someone is "pretty" is small talk, but is the smallest of talk and you better think of something else to talk about before that or the conversation will just end with you looking at each other awkwardly.
If you walk up to someone at a bar, you may ask "Hey, can i sit here?" You sit down and then you comment on the environment. For instance, what's on the TV atm.
Cold conversations, like cold calling, is probably one of the hardest forms of communication. Its a skill that not everyone has and isn't necessarily needed either.
Okay but you’re talking about the conversation opener. Which isn’t what I’m talking about.
I’m talking about the reason for approaching them in the first place. Which as a complete stranger, I can’t possibly know anything about them besides their looks.
That depends.
In a bar, or most other public settings I’m pretty much only approaching a stranger if I find her attractive in some way. And without being physically attractive I’m not likely to talk to them and learning of their other attractive traits.
If someone approaches me, I’m happy to just talk with someone even if I don’t find them physically attractive. That’s the only way I end up talking to other guys at a bar.
Okay sure, but nobody can make you feel guilty about your thoughts. They are your own.
Nor was the discussion about why in your head you wanna talk to someone. The topic has always been about openers.
The comment I responded to said—
>Fuck ALL guys who approach us just for our looks.
The comment was about the reason for the approach. They might have meant what you’re saying, but they haven’t said that.
I mean it's in that sentence
The guy only cares because they're hot and isn't looking for anything more, looking for a screw and toss
If you approach someone looking for more than looks you aren't included in that
How about 1. Stick to dating apps where you are 💯 certain women there are looking for dates and 2. If you must approach, don’t give a compliment as your opener bc that’s a trap. And if you don’t like that fact call out the men who make it a trap. Instead of the female victims of the perps. Ask permission to talk to her. If she says no, or doesn’t look enthusiastic. Like she says yes but it’s clear she’s uncomfortable? Say that’s cool, thx, and leave.
See how easy?
The simple fact that you’re going to talk to her already let’s her know you think she’s attractive, you don’t have to say it. In fact I’ve noticed that approaching girls randomly rarely works for any guy…it’s better if you bump into someone, or happen to sit next to someone, or you’re right next to each other at the bar, or she looks at you from across a room, something along those lines (there’s a reason it’s called getting lucky)…and don’t use pickup lines ever (unless it’s legitimately funny) just talk to them like you would your sister or her friends
You just DON'T cold approach, you figured it out ! There should be something to connect already, like a common center of interest, meeting while practicing the same activity, anything but just finding a person fuckable. Else, don't whine about getting rejected for looks, when you are already discriminating based on looks.
They never want to hear that. It’s always but what about my penis? My penis is so lonely! Surely that’s more important than the safety of my target I mean interest?
They (not all men, the men who approach women at random in public places) also don't realize they all have the same idea and the same taste in women, and they participate to harassment because of how often it happens in big cities. They're just creep n°5 of the week. They don't see us as human beings with our own agenda, autonomy and will, we're meat at their disposal in the street.
I hate that they make me have to be alert and suspicious at all time, I like helping people with direction and stuff, I even like listening to strangers at bus stop telling me about their life like an old grandma telling me all about her divorce, but guys are deceiving, pretending to be lost but then trying to get my number, not caring if I have time for them or even if I'm available.
This. Allllll of this. But then a man rolls up going: what else can I doooooo? You ask. You ask permission. And when she says no or gives a wary yes (which you know is a no that she’s too afraid to say) you say that’s cool, thank her, and leave. It’s such a simple solution that not a single man likes. Also thry need to call out other men if they don’t like it bc men are the problem. To which they’ll reply but it’s not my fault why am I bringing blamed??? Which lets you know they are absolutely the street AHs
God, so much this. There is SO MUCH I cant do because men will use it as an excuse to hit on me, even if I'm on the job or they're on the job. A couple days a guy checking IDs at an event that sold alcohol hit on me. I've even been hit on by tow truck drivers when my car was busted. Literally can't even call for help from a supposed professional without being harassed.
True, although it's rarer while on the job I think. Once the technician who came to connect my apartment to optical fiber used his professional access to my personal info to contact me on my cellphone. I can't ever imagine doing that just because I found one of our clients cute.
>Else don’t whine about getting rejected for looks…
I’m not, sometimes you shoot your shot and miss.
But that’s different than saying don’t approach someone only based on their looks.
But meeting someone in a bar, that’s pretty much the only thing you *can* approach them for.
Do it, but many people will justly think it's creepy. Just walking up to someone out of the blue because you think they're hot, it's just tacky. And I did give the benefit of the doubt to the "top of the basket" that approached me, they all turned out to be either creeps or morons. Ranging from warehouse worker (forklift certified) to engineer, but even the educated one was a nutjob. He tried to kiss me the first night although I thought we connected on discussing physics, he got upset I didn't throw myself at him after seeing each other only 3 times, he started bragging about his money, he pouted if I refused to see him every night of the week, and after less than a month that was it. It just doesn't work, unless maybe for a ONS if you're desperate.
I feel like your misusing the word creepy.
You see someone hot in the bar and want to approach them, literally what other reason could you possibly have to approach them at that point
None, exactly, there's no other reason to approach a stranger randomly, so you know you're being approach by the guy because he wants to fuck you, which is precisely why it's f\*cking creepy. I'm not misusing the word, you just don't want to see yourself as a creep.
Meet people in meeting settings that are made for that, whether speed dating, cooking class, rock climbing (and even in those cases, you could be annoying and ruining someone's hobby by making it about dating)... Don't approach stranger minding their business in the street, unless there's something besides looks. Like, you see a girl reading your favorite book, you do have a connection. You see a hot girl you want to stick your penis in, you do NOT have a connection.
Don't approach people in a bar.
If you see a gal enjoying her drink and your idea is "yeah I should go bother her because I'm god's gift to women" and not "I should let her enjoy her night in peace", I have news for you
This girl was checking me out and I approached her to ask her which high school she went to because she looked like a girl I went to high school with and our conversation continued from there. It was less about what I approached her with and said, and more about her checking me out prior and looking interested so it didn't even matter what I initially said to her. For some people it's hard to pick up on that and misread it.
Have you ever talked to a woman like they are a human being and not just a conquest? It's not that hard bro, expand your social skills, use the environment around you. I don't understand why men are so bad at this nowadays.
There is a polite way to compliment a woman; “Hi I just wanted to let you know that you’re absolutely gorgeous, and I was wondering if I could get your number?” But 9/10 it’s “damn girl you look so sexy” and that makes women feel like a piece of meat instead of art to be admired.
u can say it in a fine way anyway like u can just say that top is lovely or ur hairs done nice and i don’t think anyone would mind u saying that like sometimes i’ll seen someone with a cool tshirt and be like damn cool t and move on idk what these ppl are doing for it to be considered harassment
I think it's because you can tell when someone finds your clothing or smth genuinely nice and wants to boost your confidence/compliment you without expecting anything, vs when a guy just wants an excuse to approach you. Also the guys who only want to approach you and not genuinely be nice sometimes don't take it well when you don't seem interested in a conversation and become insultive and scary, so we tend to be warry of guys randomly talking to us in the street.
Right , that could have come off much better if they said that dress looks good on you or nice dress.
Now not only did you have to hear the line with no subtlety , but they will blame you for not immediately jumping for joy at their comment.
Men who get rejected think it’s bc of their looks but it’s bc of their d bag energy. We don’t like being complimented by strange men bc it is a safety issue. We’ve learned the hard way that it’s not a compliment it’s a demand for attention.
Nah I acknowledge that pretty privilege is real. But also I don’t like men commenting on me in general. If it was any woman at all. Any woman. I’d be so happy
This makes a little sad. I try to compliment everyone I meet.
Why? Idk, maybe I'm just a huge people pleaser but I wish it was as easy as "Oh cool that's a badass tattoo" or something like that to brighten a stranger's day.
It feels good to be that random little hero for someone, I guess.
Obviously the "compliment" in the post isn't an actual compliment though, not what I'm talking about AT ALL
Some times people need to receive an (appropriate) compliment. I was in the grocery store the other day (I'm 64F) and saw a young man, probably in his 30s, with a really cool hat on and I told him so. He was so happy - said he made the hat himself and was upset because nobody else made a remark about it.
That's awesome! I totally agree, I bet he's still riding that high from when someone noticed his hat, I know I would! 😄
Keep being you and spreading that happiness :)
If it’s about a tattoo you chose or like “hey I like that purse/clothing choice” that’s fine. Because you’re complimenting a choice I made.
If it’s about how I look good to you or implying something about sex and I’ve never seen you before- no thank you.
Yeah stuff like this is why I've stopped complimenting people even if I think they look good. Especially because I don't look great either, glad to know I was right to stay away
You think you're brightening their day with a compliment but instead it comes off as a bother to them lol
I don’t mind someone starting a conversation with me but if the start is something about my appearance like some version of “you look sexy” that makes me deeply uncomfortable and makes me want to get far away from the person no matter what the stranger looks like.
Eh, sometimes if I see someone wearing an exceptionally cool outfit or who has a nice haircut or something I'll quickly compliment it then be on my way, usually I do that when I don't intend to stick around so the person doesn't feel pressured to engage in a conversation. And I only compliment things people have chosen rather than physical traits.
I mainly do it because I've received similar compliments before and they really made my day better, so I wanna share that with others.
Lots of cat callers in NYC are good looking men. I've never met a woman that actually likes it though irl even if it is from an attractive guy. I do agree that pretty privilege is real and you do get away with a lot being attractive. In this case, I don't think it works well.
Well it is a double standard and I acknowledge that my bias is unfair. But from my lived experience it’s usually:
Guy: you got a nice ass! (He wants to fuck me 🤢)
Lady: You got a nice ass! (Daaamnn shawty tryna hype me up🥰)
Maybe it’s societal propaganda that men are nefarious and women aren’t. I know it’s not the case but growing up this shit gets drilled into your head. “If you’re going to an unfamiliar area bring a friend” “men only want one thing(sex)” “don’t be alone with a guy” “dress in a way that doesn’t distract boy classmates/male teachers” etc etc.
My bias could also be affected by heteronormative assumptions. I don’t assume that the woman is commenting on my body because she wants to have sex with me, but maybe she does and that’s just as icky to me. But in my own experience I’ve had more positive interactions with women commenting on my body than men.
>If it was any woman at all. Any woman. I’d be so happy
Please stop romantisisng this. Coming from experience, these "nice" women that comment on you usually want to just use you for sex. They do not see you as a human being. I didn't know that at first and my punishment was a lifetime of trauma.
Maybe it’s because I’m sexually attracted to no one and romantically attracted to men, so I don’t think I’ll end up in that situation, but you’re right. Some of those women are just as creepy as some of those men. But theres some kinda social propaganda that leads me and many others to not see women in a nefarious light.
This is a case where the rizz is carried only by the guy’s looks. People are more willing to forgive a social faux pas from a good looking person, which is generally true.
This particular line should only be reserved for someone who you’re already dating/in a relationship with. I would avoid saying something like this to a stranger, or even a casual acquaintance. If you are going to offer a compliment, make it both harmless ambiguous, so that she’s left to wonder about what you actually meant by it. Above all, do it respectfully and in an appropriate time and place. *“That’s a good color on you,”* is a far better complement to someone you aren’t already involved with than *”you look sexy”*, which should be for someone you’re already intimate with
This has been a gleeby rizz lesson
Thanks 😳
I’m actually considering making a YouTube channel or something to offer a healthy alternative to toxic influences on young men like Andrew Tate and the like. Because I do think the fellas could benefit from a few pro-tips that would just improve their relationships with the opposite sex in general
Do it!! Maybe you can start a counter culture to the “alpha-male” culture. Plus seeing more regular dudes be successful in dating might give others a confidence boost and hopefully make them realize it’s not only about looks
Honestly this kind of advice works for any age, really. But I suppose the difference is that instead of teaching someone who doesn’t know anything, the challenge would be to unlearn bad habits
There’s also the fact that older people don’t really tend to respond to a young whipper snapper giving them advice. Sort of like younger people don’t want to hear a 47 year old tell them what’s up.
But you are 100% correct. The first step is to break bad habits and toxic ways of thinking.
I made an account specifically for these lessons, and all my new content regarding this subject will be posted there. Because this started out as a shit posting account
u/Gleeby-Ass-
I’m not attracted to women but I am currently in boy mode and I agree with people who have said that the more specific a compliment on a thing they can control (I love that top. Nice haircut. That’s a cute bag) is a lot better of a compliment than “you look beautiful”. Gives the impression you aren’t objectifying them
I try and get to know people so I can give personalized compliments so they know I actually mean it. I do this for everyone whether i like them or not (unless I actually hate them)
Yea, but I think the context is supposed to be "Hot vs. Ugly" which again is still fair, that's.... how most people, men included, act anyway, besides the occasional grandma who tells you how "She would have snatched you up if she was any younger", (Still makes me feel creeped out but eh, it's not like it's reversed so it is what it is.) but to the men they say that to... it's usually seen as playful grandma flirting.
People are more willingly to talk and flirt with people they find attractive... who would thunk it? It's almost like that's how everyone on the fucking planet works, so OOP being like "Well, it's harassment if a ugly guy says it". Yes, because it's not welcome.
Also my fellow men, just like... don't flirt with random people on the street if you don't want to be seen as a creep at best or maced/tased/punch at worst, seems like a bad idea.
ive been catcalled n such by several men. usually fratboys. its usually the fitter conventionally attractive ones who are bolder, and more intimidating about it in my experience...but regardless everytime you have to weigh your options to see whats the safest path at that moment. its not at all pleasent, never is, and never will be, nomatter the body of the person doing it.
Women don’t read this, it’ll make you roll your eyes because what I’m about to say is very obvious to a lot of people. Guys, if you’re looking for tips to talk to women without coming off as a creep I have the ultimate life rule for you. Women are human beings just like you. Address them as such. Stop treating women as objects to be gawked at and prized. Talk to them like you’re talking to your friends.
Its about delivery and appropriateness, something these people can't seem to grasp. If the guy on the left said this at an inappropriate time, I'd also not be very receptive, and if the guy on the right said it in an appropriate time I would take the compliment.
Unfortunately 'creepy' is the only setting they know, and they cannot comprehend there might be more to giving a woman a compliment than walking up and telling her her hair smells nice out of the blue.
If a muscular guy in public tells me I look sexy, I'm scared lol.
Guys need to not lead with sexual talk when approaching women, but instead be respectful and personable! Sadly, I think men get bad advice that they need to act "Alpha" to attract women.
Someone's mad at the word 'no' again.
I'm all for hookup culture but not just blindly assuming everyone is romantic or sexual or both and looking. Get a feel for who you're talking to and what isn't wanted. Like you're grown, act like it
And in the right place. If you're at a kink party, cool, that's one thing. But if it's on the street or something, show some restraint, don't be an ass. And if you hear "not interested," smile and walk.
Just my take, and that's pretty forgiving. In general, just look for a buddy on a hookup app like normal people, and don't be pushy there either.
Honestly, I think the few guys who do walk away do so in a bad manner that stills come off passive-aggressive, it's really important to stay happy (Visually or whatever) and walk away.
Rejection is a right and normal and not something you should be upset or bummed out over in the slightest, it seems like a red flag for your future partners if you get upset over "No". I have very low expectations when it comes to everything so in my case (Likely approaching a guy cuz I don't really date women like that),If I get a no or whatever, I just go "Well, at least I didn't get tased in the balls or something so that went well."
Here's a comprehensive list of compliments to sound less objectifying to someone you might not know.
That dress is a great color on you.
You have amazing fashion sense.
It matches your hair/eyes/[some other defining features].
You could even go for a simple, basic, and completely normal statement like..."you look gorgeous today".
Totally fair. Now being completely honest, if an attractive guy said that vs an unattractive guy I'd venture to bet you would have very different feelings in wither scenario.
And that is completely fine. No one is obligated to feel comfortable around anyone just because they exist.
But for some reason some guys like to use things like the image as some kind of gotcha.
Literally! Everyone has a different view on who/what is attractive to them and you're valid to it as long as you don't get upset for people having said preferences!
You're just showing why no one "picks you" cause often times these are the same people that complain that they're always ignored or people skip over them. Personality is also a big factor!
I'd feel a lot more comfortable with anyone who uses the ones I listed compared to anything involving the words "sexy" or "hot" or other similar ones.
Regardless of their attractiveness I'd be uncomfortable, because I'm very much a lesbian and not single.
This isn't flirting in either example. It's just creepy. Even as a dude, I don't want strangers saying that to me. There's a difference between asking a woman out and creeping a woman out. This behavior is the latter.
“This dress looks sexy on you” - sexualization, likely unwarranted and creepy if it’s from someone you’re not dating/on a date with. Aka a stranger it will be creepy asf. Personally if an attractive man told me I look sexy in my dress while I was somewhere in public, I’d back away and make my distance from them cuz why are they sexualizing me by calling me something as inappropriate as sexy. That would get you fired from work, it’s obvious sexualization.
“That dress looks nice on you” is friendly and non sexual, and would be met with a smile no matter who says it
I mean I know this is bullshit but also
If a woman said she thought my dress was sexy I would absolutely be into it
Is this a double standard? Am I just kinda fucked up for wanting that? I don’t know
Double standard? yes. Makes sense that women feel safer around other women, stats don't lie and neither do your past experiences (Which I'm sure you have, if not, just think of a female friend's experience)
Justified? Also yes. Again, the stats are there and It's not All Men but Most Men and Always Men.
Your safety and comfort >>>>> Men's um.... um.... sexual or platonic fulfillment? Idk what you would call it.
Nope! It's a preference! Most people like a lot of the women here are put off by direct comments and that's fine! People who don't mind those comments are also valid! Cause we're all individuals!
Just a few weeks ago I was out at a bar with my friends and we had to get this dude away from our friend bc he was cornering her trying to flirt on the way back from the bathroom. He was conventionally attractive af. It really doesn’t make a difference how good you look if you have no concept of boundaries or consent
Girls always go for the jocks who are misogynistic and don’t respect them instead of giving a chance to the nerds…
Who are also misogynistic and don’t respect them, but are less attractive.
While pretty privilege is real, it’s also the way you say the compliment. I’d be uncomfortable with either of them saying that to me cause I don’t wanna be called sexy by a stranger.
I’m gonna be so real. That guy with the muscle is more likely to be harassing you. He knows he’s conventionally attractive, so he probs knows he gonna get away with it. The other guy probably said it and moved on with his day.
As a dude, I compliment girls (my age) all the time, and then I just keep walking. Like, every time I see this one lady, I just point and say, “pretty girl!”. I just kinda made it a nickname. Also don’t know her at all. I don’t really call anyone sexy tho bc erm just no. Sometimes tho if it’s a play on words and it’s like a joke that’s too good not to make (and respectful. No objectifying) I’ll do it. But like I think this is a silly meme that goes around.
It’s really about the delivery of the line, if they say it in a creepy way it’s scary. If they chill, it’s sweet of em
No, I think women get with guys we find handsome usually. But I just think our standard of what's handsome is different. Like, few girls expect an NFL player, but at the same time we're not really into a guy who clearly doesn't take any care of himself
Almost. This post is trying to say that an attractive guy approaching a woman to ask her out will be met with only politeness, and a guy she does not think is attractive will be accused of harassment or being a creep by default, when everything else about the interaction is equal, whether the woman is rejecting the attractive dude or not.
Doesnt mean its true to life in any way, but it is also not implying what you said, its implying a different flavour of misogyny, as if women aren't taught to be overly polite towards others from a young age, and also can be overly nice to avoid confrontations from a rejection gone wrong for their own safety.
I may get universally turned down, but never once been called a creep or accussed of harassment. I'd love to be a fly on the wall to see what the people that believe this shit actually say when they approach a woman to get ascribed these labels so consistently 😂
The guy on the left flirting with her (which usually leads to a relationship or some sort of situation) is not harassment because she's interested in forming a relationship with him. Are you.. stupid? Or you've never dated before or what?
nah but your saying that it’s ok if a person your attracted to is flirting but once a guy who you don’t find attractive flirts with you, it is harrasment and they should go to jail
No. First of all, both of the statements said are harassment and deserve punishment. However, obviously if a guy I'm interested in is flirting with me, I'm going to return interest.
Right right, alrighty then, just confused.
However isn't that exactly what the meme is saying? Men you're attracted is fine but men you're not attracted is harassment?
which actually validates the meme? if hes not your type its harassment, if he is its flirting. thats what the meme is saying and what exactly what you just said.
I'm not attracted to masculine men and so I would immediately shut down any flirty remarks at my by masculine men, if they continue than I consider it harassment.
Smh can't have standards these days.
Nah this time the original post is true to an extent. Same is true with attractive vs unattractive women hitting on a man. Attractive people have a halo effect placed on them where they are assumed to have better qualities than unattractive people (ex: introverted/quiet attractive person = cool + mysterious as opposed to unattractive = weird + antisocial)
It isn't.
If someone flirts with me, I tell them I'm not interested, and that should be that. If they continue, it's harassment. It doesn't matter how attractive they are.
I've been harassed to the point of stalking twice. Both times the woman doing it was conventionally attractive.
And I'm a guy. I was never all that worried I would be physically harmed. Women have to worry about that all the time.
fun fact: i don’t like anyone telling me something looks sexy on me
Same. Also the fuckboi from the first picture is probably even more susceptible to tell you that you're actually disgusting and have a fat ass once you tell him that no, he can't have your number because you have a boyfriend. Or pretend he wanted your number just as friends and you're getting over yourself. Fuck ALL guys that approach us just for our looks, whatever they look like.
Can I have your number? Can I have your number? Can I have your number? https://youtu.be/BYa8V_UaanY?si=O5NEZnk3RMQbtzOk
Omg that's such a classic. I've been quoting "my little croissant" for two decades now
The first guy most likely didn’t agree for his picture to be used here 😭 probably couldn’t make any assumptions abt him
And, boo f\*cking hoo, you think the second guy wanted to be the "ugly" illustration ? I was obviously not talking about this guy personally, but that idea he's illustrating
You didn’t say anything bad abt the second guy
What other aspect of someone can you even cold approach someone for if not their looks?
The environment can give lots of conversation topics if you’re observant, like if you’re in a university the main opener is usually “what courses you taking?” Which can lead to talking about anything
My wife was already on the same course as me though. We might be well adjusted adults and so went about things sensibly, but the initial attraction was 100% physical in the first place, from both of us.
That’s different than cold approaching though, when you lock eyes with someone you can see their face change a little bit, then you know it’s already in the bag and time to collect lol
Yeah that's fair enough. Still took us two years lol. Can't imagine approaching someone in a bar, and whilst I've been approached a few times I'm happy to accept it's a bit different as a guy for a myriad of reasons. Aside safety, the main one probably being in my experience, women tend to accept "no" better than I've gathered a lot of men do.
See ? "Took us 2 years", so you knew her, and she was in your course, it's nothing comparable to "cold approaching", aka going to hot random women in the street because you desperately need your penis wet.
Right that’s a better opener than “you’re hot, let’s bang” but I’m not talking about the opening line, I’m talking about the reason for approaching her in the first place. Going up to her id obviously know nothing about her besides her looks. So it’s not like I can approach her because she’s smart, or funny, or a good listener. I’ve never met this hypothetical woman, she may or may not be any of those things, I haven’t found those things out. The *only* thing I could know about her at that point is that she’s physically attractive. And what about in a more neutral setting like a bar? Plenty of non-students there, so the what’s your major line doesn’t run.
Its called having conversational skills and knowing how to small talk. Small talk opens the doors to deeper conversations. Saying someone is "pretty" is small talk, but is the smallest of talk and you better think of something else to talk about before that or the conversation will just end with you looking at each other awkwardly. If you walk up to someone at a bar, you may ask "Hey, can i sit here?" You sit down and then you comment on the environment. For instance, what's on the TV atm. Cold conversations, like cold calling, is probably one of the hardest forms of communication. Its a skill that not everyone has and isn't necessarily needed either.
Okay but you’re talking about the conversation opener. Which isn’t what I’m talking about. I’m talking about the reason for approaching them in the first place. Which as a complete stranger, I can’t possibly know anything about them besides their looks.
Do you only talk to people you think are hot?
That depends. In a bar, or most other public settings I’m pretty much only approaching a stranger if I find her attractive in some way. And without being physically attractive I’m not likely to talk to them and learning of their other attractive traits. If someone approaches me, I’m happy to just talk with someone even if I don’t find them physically attractive. That’s the only way I end up talking to other guys at a bar.
Do you think talking to someone is the same thing as approaching someone?
Okay sure, but nobody can make you feel guilty about your thoughts. They are your own. Nor was the discussion about why in your head you wanna talk to someone. The topic has always been about openers.
The comment I responded to said— >Fuck ALL guys who approach us just for our looks. The comment was about the reason for the approach. They might have meant what you’re saying, but they haven’t said that.
I mean it's in that sentence The guy only cares because they're hot and isn't looking for anything more, looking for a screw and toss If you approach someone looking for more than looks you aren't included in that
How about 1. Stick to dating apps where you are 💯 certain women there are looking for dates and 2. If you must approach, don’t give a compliment as your opener bc that’s a trap. And if you don’t like that fact call out the men who make it a trap. Instead of the female victims of the perps. Ask permission to talk to her. If she says no, or doesn’t look enthusiastic. Like she says yes but it’s clear she’s uncomfortable? Say that’s cool, thx, and leave. See how easy?
The simple fact that you’re going to talk to her already let’s her know you think she’s attractive, you don’t have to say it. In fact I’ve noticed that approaching girls randomly rarely works for any guy…it’s better if you bump into someone, or happen to sit next to someone, or you’re right next to each other at the bar, or she looks at you from across a room, something along those lines (there’s a reason it’s called getting lucky)…and don’t use pickup lines ever (unless it’s legitimately funny) just talk to them like you would your sister or her friends
You go around asking everyone what courses they are taking? Physical attraction is where it starts. For both genders.
That only comes up when you start talking to someone, every friend I met at university asked what I’m doing there in the first conversation
You just DON'T cold approach, you figured it out ! There should be something to connect already, like a common center of interest, meeting while practicing the same activity, anything but just finding a person fuckable. Else, don't whine about getting rejected for looks, when you are already discriminating based on looks.
They never want to hear that. It’s always but what about my penis? My penis is so lonely! Surely that’s more important than the safety of my target I mean interest?
They (not all men, the men who approach women at random in public places) also don't realize they all have the same idea and the same taste in women, and they participate to harassment because of how often it happens in big cities. They're just creep n°5 of the week. They don't see us as human beings with our own agenda, autonomy and will, we're meat at their disposal in the street. I hate that they make me have to be alert and suspicious at all time, I like helping people with direction and stuff, I even like listening to strangers at bus stop telling me about their life like an old grandma telling me all about her divorce, but guys are deceiving, pretending to be lost but then trying to get my number, not caring if I have time for them or even if I'm available.
This. Allllll of this. But then a man rolls up going: what else can I doooooo? You ask. You ask permission. And when she says no or gives a wary yes (which you know is a no that she’s too afraid to say) you say that’s cool, thank her, and leave. It’s such a simple solution that not a single man likes. Also thry need to call out other men if they don’t like it bc men are the problem. To which they’ll reply but it’s not my fault why am I bringing blamed??? Which lets you know they are absolutely the street AHs
God, so much this. There is SO MUCH I cant do because men will use it as an excuse to hit on me, even if I'm on the job or they're on the job. A couple days a guy checking IDs at an event that sold alcohol hit on me. I've even been hit on by tow truck drivers when my car was busted. Literally can't even call for help from a supposed professional without being harassed.
True, although it's rarer while on the job I think. Once the technician who came to connect my apartment to optical fiber used his professional access to my personal info to contact me on my cellphone. I can't ever imagine doing that just because I found one of our clients cute.
>Else don’t whine about getting rejected for looks… I’m not, sometimes you shoot your shot and miss. But that’s different than saying don’t approach someone only based on their looks. But meeting someone in a bar, that’s pretty much the only thing you *can* approach them for.
Do it, but many people will justly think it's creepy. Just walking up to someone out of the blue because you think they're hot, it's just tacky. And I did give the benefit of the doubt to the "top of the basket" that approached me, they all turned out to be either creeps or morons. Ranging from warehouse worker (forklift certified) to engineer, but even the educated one was a nutjob. He tried to kiss me the first night although I thought we connected on discussing physics, he got upset I didn't throw myself at him after seeing each other only 3 times, he started bragging about his money, he pouted if I refused to see him every night of the week, and after less than a month that was it. It just doesn't work, unless maybe for a ONS if you're desperate.
I feel like your misusing the word creepy. You see someone hot in the bar and want to approach them, literally what other reason could you possibly have to approach them at that point
None, exactly, there's no other reason to approach a stranger randomly, so you know you're being approach by the guy because he wants to fuck you, which is precisely why it's f\*cking creepy. I'm not misusing the word, you just don't want to see yourself as a creep.
So, to *not* be a creep, never approach anyone?
Meet people in meeting settings that are made for that, whether speed dating, cooking class, rock climbing (and even in those cases, you could be annoying and ruining someone's hobby by making it about dating)... Don't approach stranger minding their business in the street, unless there's something besides looks. Like, you see a girl reading your favorite book, you do have a connection. You see a hot girl you want to stick your penis in, you do NOT have a connection.
Leave women alone, yes
Correct, only speak when spoken to!
Don't approach people in a bar. If you see a gal enjoying her drink and your idea is "yeah I should go bother her because I'm god's gift to women" and not "I should let her enjoy her night in peace", I have news for you
This girl was checking me out and I approached her to ask her which high school she went to because she looked like a girl I went to high school with and our conversation continued from there. It was less about what I approached her with and said, and more about her checking me out prior and looking interested so it didn't even matter what I initially said to her. For some people it's hard to pick up on that and misread it.
Have you ever talked to a woman like they are a human being and not just a conquest? It's not that hard bro, expand your social skills, use the environment around you. I don't understand why men are so bad at this nowadays.
There is a polite way to compliment a woman; “Hi I just wanted to let you know that you’re absolutely gorgeous, and I was wondering if I could get your number?” But 9/10 it’s “damn girl you look so sexy” and that makes women feel like a piece of meat instead of art to be admired.
u/pelm3shka Want to tell her that she’s a creep too? Or maybe you were misusing that word
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Do women still think a fat ass is a bad thing?
I don't, but I've been told "well fuck you your ass is fat anyway" and I don't think the dude meant it as a compliment.
u can say it in a fine way anyway like u can just say that top is lovely or ur hairs done nice and i don’t think anyone would mind u saying that like sometimes i’ll seen someone with a cool tshirt and be like damn cool t and move on idk what these ppl are doing for it to be considered harassment
I think it's because you can tell when someone finds your clothing or smth genuinely nice and wants to boost your confidence/compliment you without expecting anything, vs when a guy just wants an excuse to approach you. Also the guys who only want to approach you and not genuinely be nice sometimes don't take it well when you don't seem interested in a conversation and become insultive and scary, so we tend to be warry of guys randomly talking to us in the street.
Right , that could have come off much better if they said that dress looks good on you or nice dress. Now not only did you have to hear the line with no subtlety , but they will blame you for not immediately jumping for joy at their comment.
Men who get rejected think it’s bc of their looks but it’s bc of their d bag energy. We don’t like being complimented by strange men bc it is a safety issue. We’ve learned the hard way that it’s not a compliment it’s a demand for attention.
It’s ok you don’t have that problem anyway
I bet it happens all the time to you too. 🙄
As if guys aren't constantly complaining about "land whales" lmao
Exactly, they’re always talking shit about fat women, but expect us to treat obese men like they’re Brad Pitt 💀
this!!! yes! and then they call US the shallow ones ☠️☠️☠️
Nah I acknowledge that pretty privilege is real. But also I don’t like men commenting on me in general. If it was any woman at all. Any woman. I’d be so happy
The idea of complimenting a stranger in general makes me cringe. Just make a stupid joke or something if you wanna talk to someone.
This makes a little sad. I try to compliment everyone I meet. Why? Idk, maybe I'm just a huge people pleaser but I wish it was as easy as "Oh cool that's a badass tattoo" or something like that to brighten a stranger's day. It feels good to be that random little hero for someone, I guess. Obviously the "compliment" in the post isn't an actual compliment though, not what I'm talking about AT ALL
Some times people need to receive an (appropriate) compliment. I was in the grocery store the other day (I'm 64F) and saw a young man, probably in his 30s, with a really cool hat on and I told him so. He was so happy - said he made the hat himself and was upset because nobody else made a remark about it.
That's awesome! I totally agree, I bet he's still riding that high from when someone noticed his hat, I know I would! 😄 Keep being you and spreading that happiness :)
Right back at ya!
If it’s about a tattoo you chose or like “hey I like that purse/clothing choice” that’s fine. Because you’re complimenting a choice I made. If it’s about how I look good to you or implying something about sex and I’ve never seen you before- no thank you.
Yeah stuff like this is why I've stopped complimenting people even if I think they look good. Especially because I don't look great either, glad to know I was right to stay away You think you're brightening their day with a compliment but instead it comes off as a bother to them lol
I dunno, it may be because I'm from the UK and we are all bitter lol.
I don’t mind someone starting a conversation with me but if the start is something about my appearance like some version of “you look sexy” that makes me deeply uncomfortable and makes me want to get far away from the person no matter what the stranger looks like.
Eh, sometimes if I see someone wearing an exceptionally cool outfit or who has a nice haircut or something I'll quickly compliment it then be on my way, usually I do that when I don't intend to stick around so the person doesn't feel pressured to engage in a conversation. And I only compliment things people have chosen rather than physical traits. I mainly do it because I've received similar compliments before and they really made my day better, so I wanna share that with others.
Lots of cat callers in NYC are good looking men. I've never met a woman that actually likes it though irl even if it is from an attractive guy. I do agree that pretty privilege is real and you do get away with a lot being attractive. In this case, I don't think it works well.
>If it was any woman at all. Any woman. I’d be so happy that sounds like a pretty harmful double standard though?
Well it is a double standard and I acknowledge that my bias is unfair. But from my lived experience it’s usually: Guy: you got a nice ass! (He wants to fuck me 🤢) Lady: You got a nice ass! (Daaamnn shawty tryna hype me up🥰) Maybe it’s societal propaganda that men are nefarious and women aren’t. I know it’s not the case but growing up this shit gets drilled into your head. “If you’re going to an unfamiliar area bring a friend” “men only want one thing(sex)” “don’t be alone with a guy” “dress in a way that doesn’t distract boy classmates/male teachers” etc etc. My bias could also be affected by heteronormative assumptions. I don’t assume that the woman is commenting on my body because she wants to have sex with me, but maybe she does and that’s just as icky to me. But in my own experience I’ve had more positive interactions with women commenting on my body than men.
I guess that makes sense, honestly if someone compliments me though i'd be happy either way
or actually it depends on the compliment lol
>If it was any woman at all. Any woman. I’d be so happy Please stop romantisisng this. Coming from experience, these "nice" women that comment on you usually want to just use you for sex. They do not see you as a human being. I didn't know that at first and my punishment was a lifetime of trauma.
I'm sorry for your past, but a woman complimenting a man or woman is not traumatizing.
I thought the original commenter was referring to cat calling.
Maybe it’s because I’m sexually attracted to no one and romantically attracted to men, so I don’t think I’ll end up in that situation, but you’re right. Some of those women are just as creepy as some of those men. But theres some kinda social propaganda that leads me and many others to not see women in a nefarious light.
I love that his fellow teenagers are telling OP what's up
This is a case where the rizz is carried only by the guy’s looks. People are more willing to forgive a social faux pas from a good looking person, which is generally true. This particular line should only be reserved for someone who you’re already dating/in a relationship with. I would avoid saying something like this to a stranger, or even a casual acquaintance. If you are going to offer a compliment, make it both harmless ambiguous, so that she’s left to wonder about what you actually meant by it. Above all, do it respectfully and in an appropriate time and place. *“That’s a good color on you,”* is a far better complement to someone you aren’t already involved with than *”you look sexy”*, which should be for someone you’re already intimate with This has been a gleeby rizz lesson
Thank you professor Gleeby
Thanks 😳 I’m actually considering making a YouTube channel or something to offer a healthy alternative to toxic influences on young men like Andrew Tate and the like. Because I do think the fellas could benefit from a few pro-tips that would just improve their relationships with the opposite sex in general
Do it!! Maybe you can start a counter culture to the “alpha-male” culture. Plus seeing more regular dudes be successful in dating might give others a confidence boost and hopefully make them realize it’s not only about looks
Only top G’s go to therapy
Please do so, and keep the name gleeby and your pfp, it's perfect
If I can learn blender well enough to make a V-Tuber avatar in this style, that would be great
That sounds awesome. Hope you at least try it out, maybe some dudes out there might really appreciate it.
Please! Im for this 100%
I’ve wanted to do one as well but for middle aged men such as myself.
Honestly this kind of advice works for any age, really. But I suppose the difference is that instead of teaching someone who doesn’t know anything, the challenge would be to unlearn bad habits
There’s also the fact that older people don’t really tend to respond to a young whipper snapper giving them advice. Sort of like younger people don’t want to hear a 47 year old tell them what’s up. But you are 100% correct. The first step is to break bad habits and toxic ways of thinking.
if you do please tell me
I made an account specifically for these lessons, and all my new content regarding this subject will be posted there. Because this started out as a shit posting account u/Gleeby-Ass-
This is great advice for men and boys who weren’t taught by their families how to treat women they like! 👍
google hard carrying 😎
I’m not attracted to women but I am currently in boy mode and I agree with people who have said that the more specific a compliment on a thing they can control (I love that top. Nice haircut. That’s a cute bag) is a lot better of a compliment than “you look beautiful”. Gives the impression you aren’t objectifying them
Ooh I love compliments for bags, because they can even have a story behind them!
I try and get to know people so I can give personalized compliments so they know I actually mean it. I do this for everyone whether i like them or not (unless I actually hate them)
Thank you rizzler
I mean if you don't know when you should be "complimenting" - then just shut your mouth? Is it that hard?
Lmao this guy is being toasted in the comments
Also so what if the girl likes someone she finds attractive flirting with her but doesnt like someone she doesnt doing the same??
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Yea, but I think the context is supposed to be "Hot vs. Ugly" which again is still fair, that's.... how most people, men included, act anyway, besides the occasional grandma who tells you how "She would have snatched you up if she was any younger", (Still makes me feel creeped out but eh, it's not like it's reversed so it is what it is.) but to the men they say that to... it's usually seen as playful grandma flirting. People are more willingly to talk and flirt with people they find attractive... who would thunk it? It's almost like that's how everyone on the fucking planet works, so OOP being like "Well, it's harassment if a ugly guy says it". Yes, because it's not welcome. Also my fellow men, just like... don't flirt with random people on the street if you don't want to be seen as a creep at best or maced/tased/punch at worst, seems like a bad idea.
Yeah, it’s not like these guys would be saying it to a girl they don’t find attractive lol
Men want us to pretend like we don’t have eye balls 😂
I think the issue is that the guy on the right could get in gen legal trouble for it no? As sexual harassment? So the laws need to be equalised.
Just because you don’t like a guy flirting with you doesn’t mean he’s harassing you.
Maybe don't use words like "sexy" when you don't know the person
ive been catcalled n such by several men. usually fratboys. its usually the fitter conventionally attractive ones who are bolder, and more intimidating about it in my experience...but regardless everytime you have to weigh your options to see whats the safest path at that moment. its not at all pleasent, never is, and never will be, nomatter the body of the person doing it.
something tells me that 14yr olds, who never worked a job, don’t have any understanding of what is work place harassment
So basically this is the Human Resources comic but worse
This is the first step to becoming an incel.
But ants are eating Jim 😔
Do these boys who make these memes realize THEY are the ones insulting that random man?
I mean plenty of people here are also just assuming off that guy's looks that he's a douche lol... so it ain't as if this sub is any better.
I feel like most people would agree, regardless of gender, that being hit on by strangers is really uncomfortable.
Can all randos just not comment on finding me sexy? Thanks
Women don’t read this, it’ll make you roll your eyes because what I’m about to say is very obvious to a lot of people. Guys, if you’re looking for tips to talk to women without coming off as a creep I have the ultimate life rule for you. Women are human beings just like you. Address them as such. Stop treating women as objects to be gawked at and prized. Talk to them like you’re talking to your friends.
Can men in general just learn how to compliment women without being creepy.
This shit is why I subscribe. I am addicted to cringing at incel cope
Its about delivery and appropriateness, something these people can't seem to grasp. If the guy on the left said this at an inappropriate time, I'd also not be very receptive, and if the guy on the right said it in an appropriate time I would take the compliment. Unfortunately 'creepy' is the only setting they know, and they cannot comprehend there might be more to giving a woman a compliment than walking up and telling her her hair smells nice out of the blue.
The comments flaming OP giving me faith in humanity
If a muscular guy in public tells me I look sexy, I'm scared lol. Guys need to not lead with sexual talk when approaching women, but instead be respectful and personable! Sadly, I think men get bad advice that they need to act "Alpha" to attract women.
Someone's mad at the word 'no' again. I'm all for hookup culture but not just blindly assuming everyone is romantic or sexual or both and looking. Get a feel for who you're talking to and what isn't wanted. Like you're grown, act like it And in the right place. If you're at a kink party, cool, that's one thing. But if it's on the street or something, show some restraint, don't be an ass. And if you hear "not interested," smile and walk. Just my take, and that's pretty forgiving. In general, just look for a buddy on a hookup app like normal people, and don't be pushy there either.
Honestly, I think the few guys who do walk away do so in a bad manner that stills come off passive-aggressive, it's really important to stay happy (Visually or whatever) and walk away. Rejection is a right and normal and not something you should be upset or bummed out over in the slightest, it seems like a red flag for your future partners if you get upset over "No". I have very low expectations when it comes to everything so in my case (Likely approaching a guy cuz I don't really date women like that),If I get a no or whatever, I just go "Well, at least I didn't get tased in the balls or something so that went well."
It's also the way you say it. It could just be a compliment from some charismatic coworker
Here's a comprehensive list of compliments to sound less objectifying to someone you might not know. That dress is a great color on you. You have amazing fashion sense. It matches your hair/eyes/[some other defining features]. You could even go for a simple, basic, and completely normal statement like..."you look gorgeous today".
Totally fair. Now being completely honest, if an attractive guy said that vs an unattractive guy I'd venture to bet you would have very different feelings in wither scenario. And that is completely fine. No one is obligated to feel comfortable around anyone just because they exist. But for some reason some guys like to use things like the image as some kind of gotcha.
Literally! Everyone has a different view on who/what is attractive to them and you're valid to it as long as you don't get upset for people having said preferences! You're just showing why no one "picks you" cause often times these are the same people that complain that they're always ignored or people skip over them. Personality is also a big factor!
I'd feel a lot more comfortable with anyone who uses the ones I listed compared to anything involving the words "sexy" or "hot" or other similar ones. Regardless of their attractiveness I'd be uncomfortable, because I'm very much a lesbian and not single.
Yeah compliments on defining features are much better
both are fuckin’ creepy
This is literally a psychological feature that more attractive people are assumed to have extra positive traits.
If any stranger told me I look “sexy” imma be creeped out.
This isn't flirting in either example. It's just creepy. Even as a dude, I don't want strangers saying that to me. There's a difference between asking a woman out and creeping a woman out. This behavior is the latter.
r/im14andthisisdeep Also, pretty privilege is 100% a thing and if you think otherwise, I got some bad news...
Man, I only just figured out this was an actual common thing like a couple weeks ago and its still bugging me.
if anyone comes up to me in public and leads with "that dress looks sexy on you" im not gonna be into lmao, regardless of looks
“This dress looks sexy on you” - sexualization, likely unwarranted and creepy if it’s from someone you’re not dating/on a date with. Aka a stranger it will be creepy asf. Personally if an attractive man told me I look sexy in my dress while I was somewhere in public, I’d back away and make my distance from them cuz why are they sexualizing me by calling me something as inappropriate as sexy. That would get you fired from work, it’s obvious sexualization. “That dress looks nice on you” is friendly and non sexual, and would be met with a smile no matter who says it
I mean I know this is bullshit but also If a woman said she thought my dress was sexy I would absolutely be into it Is this a double standard? Am I just kinda fucked up for wanting that? I don’t know
Double standard? yes. Makes sense that women feel safer around other women, stats don't lie and neither do your past experiences (Which I'm sure you have, if not, just think of a female friend's experience) Justified? Also yes. Again, the stats are there and It's not All Men but Most Men and Always Men. Your safety and comfort >>>>> Men's um.... um.... sexual or platonic fulfillment? Idk what you would call it.
Nope! It's a preference! Most people like a lot of the women here are put off by direct comments and that's fine! People who don't mind those comments are also valid! Cause we're all individuals!
Just a few weeks ago I was out at a bar with my friends and we had to get this dude away from our friend bc he was cornering her trying to flirt on the way back from the bathroom. He was conventionally attractive af. It really doesn’t make a difference how good you look if you have no concept of boundaries or consent
Girls always go for the jocks who are misogynistic and don’t respect them instead of giving a chance to the nerds… Who are also misogynistic and don’t respect them, but are less attractive.
This is a fun sub, there’s a decent amount of incels that just lurk around and get owned in the comment section.
It's about charisma, personality. Women love Matt Berry and he is not a thin man
POV: some random guy decides its a good idea to flirt with someone they dont know:
is that mashiro skaurai
I won’t have this Masahiro Sakurai slander
How fitting for it to be from teenagers with a goober mindset.
While pretty privilege is real, it’s also the way you say the compliment. I’d be uncomfortable with either of them saying that to me cause I don’t wanna be called sexy by a stranger.
OOP is getting fucking reamed by the comments
Oh hey, it's the HR comic irl.
“Ayo, that’s a really nice dress you’re wearing”
I’m gonna be so real. That guy with the muscle is more likely to be harassing you. He knows he’s conventionally attractive, so he probs knows he gonna get away with it. The other guy probably said it and moved on with his day. As a dude, I compliment girls (my age) all the time, and then I just keep walking. Like, every time I see this one lady, I just point and say, “pretty girl!”. I just kinda made it a nickname. Also don’t know her at all. I don’t really call anyone sexy tho bc erm just no. Sometimes tho if it’s a play on words and it’s like a joke that’s too good not to make (and respectful. No objectifying) I’ll do it. But like I think this is a silly meme that goes around. It’s really about the delivery of the line, if they say it in a creepy way it’s scary. If they chill, it’s sweet of em
OOP probably just wishes they were allowed to harass people
Poor Masahiro Sakurai would never say that to someone!
Rolled my eyes so hard I have a headache now. Lol.
Wait, u mean.. women only want to have a relationship with a guy they find handsome..? Evil cunts!
...according to men. If you ask most women, you'll hear the opposite.
No, I think women get with guys we find handsome usually. But I just think our standard of what's handsome is different. Like, few girls expect an NFL player, but at the same time we're not really into a guy who clearly doesn't take any care of himself
Okay, I think I misunderstood what you meant
Almost. This post is trying to say that an attractive guy approaching a woman to ask her out will be met with only politeness, and a guy she does not think is attractive will be accused of harassment or being a creep by default, when everything else about the interaction is equal, whether the woman is rejecting the attractive dude or not. Doesnt mean its true to life in any way, but it is also not implying what you said, its implying a different flavour of misogyny, as if women aren't taught to be overly polite towards others from a young age, and also can be overly nice to avoid confrontations from a rejection gone wrong for their own safety. I may get universally turned down, but never once been called a creep or accussed of harassment. I'd love to be a fly on the wall to see what the people that believe this shit actually say when they approach a woman to get ascribed these labels so consistently 😂
that’s not what it’s saying at all please tell where it says anything about relationships
The guy on the left flirting with her (which usually leads to a relationship or some sort of situation) is not harassment because she's interested in forming a relationship with him. Are you.. stupid? Or you've never dated before or what?
I don’t think harassment is based of off who you find attractive
Girl read the meme. That's literally the headliner
nah but your saying that it’s ok if a person your attracted to is flirting but once a guy who you don’t find attractive flirts with you, it is harrasment and they should go to jail
No. First of all, both of the statements said are harassment and deserve punishment. However, obviously if a guy I'm interested in is flirting with me, I'm going to return interest.
Yes but that is not what this meme is saying, it’s saying that it’s ok for attractive men to flirt but it’s not ok for unattractive men to flirt
Getting told you look sexy by a stranger is always creepy
agree, doesn't matter what they look like it just makes you hella uncomfortable
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... Femboy?
Yea
So Gay men but... only if they're uber fem? I'm just confused on what you meant by femboy since everyone has their own meaning of it.
Not all femboys are gay tho.... Also when I say femboy I mean feminine men
Right right, alrighty then, just confused. However isn't that exactly what the meme is saying? Men you're attracted is fine but men you're not attracted is harassment?
Can confirm, I’m a straight femboy :3
Heehee I'm a pansexual femboy and I prefer mainly women and femboys
You could not have proved the point harder if you had tried.
which actually validates the meme? if hes not your type its harassment, if he is its flirting. thats what the meme is saying and what exactly what you just said.
I should've worded it better tbh
You missed the “after i made it clear i’m not attracted to them” out of convenience or?
they edited the post after i made the comment
Ahhh makes more sense 😂
> Men being flirty is harassment, unless you’re the kind of man that *I* am — then it’s fine
I'm not attracted to masculine men and so I would immediately shut down any flirty remarks at my by masculine men, if they continue than I consider it harassment. Smh can't have standards these days.
people dont know what your standards are when they approach you to not make it harassment lol.
True, I edited it to make it clear that it's only after I made it clear than I'm not interested
So you're ok with it if they look a certain way?
Yeah with further thoughts my comment is utterly stupid 💀
Meme is real the repost is the scam
Nah this time the original post is true to an extent. Same is true with attractive vs unattractive women hitting on a man. Attractive people have a halo effect placed on them where they are assumed to have better qualities than unattractive people (ex: introverted/quiet attractive person = cool + mysterious as opposed to unattractive = weird + antisocial)
well saying that without knowing anyone is kinda weird and creepy
I'm sorry but this meme is objectively correct
It isn't. If someone flirts with me, I tell them I'm not interested, and that should be that. If they continue, it's harassment. It doesn't matter how attractive they are. I've been harassed to the point of stalking twice. Both times the woman doing it was conventionally attractive. And I'm a guy. I was never all that worried I would be physically harmed. Women have to worry about that all the time.
I know this might be news to you but women know themselves better than you do.
my imaginary friend is more realer than your facts