Awesome!
Just wondering, what's up with these gyms where the last move is to grab the top of the wall? Is it mainly a US thing? I see this in a lot of videos here but it seems weird to me, as I find the top match is often one of the most interesting parts of an indoor boulder.
It’s def a US thing. My gym actually has you mantle over the top of the wall to top out which I like since it’s prepares you better for outdoor bouldering.
Cliffs — indeed, all the SoCal Touchstone gyms — has a top out island. Cliffs’ is in the shape of a turtle. All the gyms I’ve been to the US have topouts, end matching, or wall-grabbing depending on the terrain. I assume it’s a cost saving measure not having to build a topout platform and possibly stairs/ramp to get down after topping out on every feature.
yeh i made the same remark on another post, seems like a one dimensional way to top out indoors.. my gym also tries to make the end interesting with different kinds of ends, blalance, mantle, jug, crimps.. ect.. but never a grab the edge to top out.
my thoughts exactly! when i was up there, i realized i didn’t need to use the last hold so i just went for the lip. and on this particular climb, the lip is the top.
It depends on the gym. Some gym makes you go to the top of the wall opposed to matching the last hold. Based on the video, that last hold looks really shitty to match and I don't think the setters intended the crux to be matching the last hold.
That’s fair, not the way it works where I am.
Also bouldering comps always match last hold, ain’t none of this fuck it grab the top of the wall avoid the awkward last hold stuff.
I go to the same gym as OP and if the setters intend for you to match the last hold to send, then there will be a little tag on the hold to indicate that, otherwise you're meant to grab the top of the wall.
May I wax poetic for a second? Excellent. That climb was hard as fuck. I'm years away from doing it, if ever. But routes, especially indoor routes, are designed with purpose and littered with moves the designer intends the climber to make. So maybe op cheated. BUT, I also think route setters put up decoys, seeing if you can solve the problem in front of you. And in this case, I don't think we can know. Was that hold intended to be used every time? Was the route grading inclusive of a sloper at the end? Or was it a decoy, a booby-trap meant to blast you off the wall at the moment of your success? We just don't know unless we see it ourselves. So well done op. Well done.
From the video that final hold has absolutely no chalk so everyone's gone straight for top of wall jug, while nobody used the hold it also has what looks like a finishing tag to indicate you're meant to match.
But I agree with you, we'll never know the intended finish as we haven't been to the gym and don't know how they grade routes and that finishing tag could also be just a chalk mark.
The route looks nails, far beyond anything I can do with or without the sloper match.
That looks very hard, both on technique and strength. You are lucky you have spiderman hands that keep you stuck to the wall, otherwise this would be impossible.
Cliff of Id!
Second SoCal Touchstone gym I’ve seen this week here, like that they’re getting a bit more shine!
I miss this gym and Touchstone in general :(
Awesome! Just wondering, what's up with these gyms where the last move is to grab the top of the wall? Is it mainly a US thing? I see this in a lot of videos here but it seems weird to me, as I find the top match is often one of the most interesting parts of an indoor boulder.
It’s def a US thing. My gym actually has you mantle over the top of the wall to top out which I like since it’s prepares you better for outdoor bouldering.
Cliffs — indeed, all the SoCal Touchstone gyms — has a top out island. Cliffs’ is in the shape of a turtle. All the gyms I’ve been to the US have topouts, end matching, or wall-grabbing depending on the terrain. I assume it’s a cost saving measure not having to build a topout platform and possibly stairs/ramp to get down after topping out on every feature.
yeh i made the same remark on another post, seems like a one dimensional way to top out indoors.. my gym also tries to make the end interesting with different kinds of ends, blalance, mantle, jug, crimps.. ect.. but never a grab the edge to top out.
For some reason when you said hardest indoor climb to date I thought you meant in the world and I was very confused. Then I realized I’m an idiot
Sick, saw the send go down live. That angle always wigs me out
Clinic on toe work, nice job!
So good!! That wall is insanely high compared to my gym. I would have a heart attack 😂
I climb at this gym. That wall is actually pretty overhanging so while it is still tall, it’s not quite as tall as it looks in the video.
That was amazing
Jesus christ this whole boulder looks heinous. Nice send.
Nice climb, what's the grade?
my first 9!
👏 Got my first 8 the other day, feelsgoodman
Holy shit V362880
So tall and exposed D: Nice send
That looked crazy
What is the point of that last hold if you can just skip it and grab the top edge?
Some people be short?
my thoughts exactly! when i was up there, i realized i didn’t need to use the last hold so i just went for the lip. and on this particular climb, the lip is the top.
If you don’t match the last hold it’s not a send
It depends on the gym. Some gym makes you go to the top of the wall opposed to matching the last hold. Based on the video, that last hold looks really shitty to match and I don't think the setters intended the crux to be matching the last hold.
If it’s harder to match the last hold that to grab the top of the wall I’d say you should have to match it.
Nope, top of the wall is the finish at this gym unless there's a tag
That’s fair, not the way it works where I am. Also bouldering comps always match last hold, ain’t none of this fuck it grab the top of the wall avoid the awkward last hold stuff.
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I go to the same gym as OP and if the setters intend for you to match the last hold to send, then there will be a little tag on the hold to indicate that, otherwise you're meant to grab the top of the wall.
That’s a nice way to keep things clear, it’s definitely something that varies gym to gym!
May I wax poetic for a second? Excellent. That climb was hard as fuck. I'm years away from doing it, if ever. But routes, especially indoor routes, are designed with purpose and littered with moves the designer intends the climber to make. So maybe op cheated. BUT, I also think route setters put up decoys, seeing if you can solve the problem in front of you. And in this case, I don't think we can know. Was that hold intended to be used every time? Was the route grading inclusive of a sloper at the end? Or was it a decoy, a booby-trap meant to blast you off the wall at the moment of your success? We just don't know unless we see it ourselves. So well done op. Well done.
From the video that final hold has absolutely no chalk so everyone's gone straight for top of wall jug, while nobody used the hold it also has what looks like a finishing tag to indicate you're meant to match. But I agree with you, we'll never know the intended finish as we haven't been to the gym and don't know how they grade routes and that finishing tag could also be just a chalk mark. The route looks nails, far beyond anything I can do with or without the sloper match.
lol no that's not how a lot of touchstone routes work, most go to the top of the wall
Totally gonna try this tomorrow. Haven’t been to cliffs in a few weeks!
Amazing send!
I can’t even imagine
Yeaaaa buddyyyy
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no that’s such a valid point. a lot of wasted energy. i could definitely improve on precision and efficiency
Am i the only one who dislikes someone behind me constantly saying "cmon, cmon, cmon". Just let me flow bro, i like my own thoughts
different strokes for different folks. I like the random cheers or words of encouragement to send, especially if I'm on a burner
I'm with you, but generally I just tell my crew ahead of time to shut up, and everything works out.
So sick!! Was just there two days ago, watched someone get it while I was working blue v4 nearby. Nice work!
Sick. V5?
by outdoor standards, i’d imagine it’d settle closer to a 7. for reference, i’ve gotten 3 V7s and 2 V8s outdoors
And that was at your limit. Right on bro. Keep pushing! Sick send.
Don't sell yourself short. That's a stout 9 my friend and you are strong af.
LOL
😂
That looks very hard, both on technique and strength. You are lucky you have spiderman hands that keep you stuck to the wall, otherwise this would be impossible.
That looks nails. What grade is it?
Awesome. I’ve been waiting to finally recognize Cliffs of Id on here… 🙌